Fox News Begins Two-Part Series Linking Games to Mass Murder

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lacktheknack:

Psychobabble:

lacktheknack:

not sure if sardonic

Oh come on. Such a minor disparity in voting numbers only shows how passionate the citizens of Texas are about this issue.

... Or about how much the rest of the nation enjoys the idea of innocent people being murdered. I'm not quite sure. Well maybe with the exception of Florida.

I'm going with the latter. The rest of the country saw the light with Florida. After all, if someone offered you a house in Oklahoma or a house in Florida, which would you pick?

Florida, obviously.

And it's clearly because of the random acts of excessive violence there! :D

Florida or Oklahoma? Now that's a Sophie's Choice I'm glad I don't have to make.

Fox News:

We distort. You comply.

TheScottishMexican42:
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I hope ya'll know the metaphor.
On a slightly related note, I actually wrote an essay on why violent video games are not harmful for children for school. Got an A for it. I think I still have it saved as well.

Spanking a drunk horse? What's the metaphore here?

dunam:

TheScottishMexican42:
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I hope ya'll know the metaphor.
On a slightly related note, I actually wrote an essay on why violent video games are not harmful for children for school. Got an A for it. I think I still have it saved as well.

Spanking a drunk horse? What's the metaphore here?

I found your first joke funnier :P

Dr.Awkward:
You know what? The only way we're going to get Fox News to shut up is if we get together, buy them out, and shut them down permanently. If we can do that, it would show just how tired we are of the sensationalist shit we have to deal with every day that comes from them and other news outlets.

Hmmm.....I wonder if a kickstarter would work.

They're re-airing 'The Columbine Scapegaot'? Why don't they just go ahead and blame Marlyn Manson too? Its about as relevant.

Creator002:
Good thing I play Microsoft Flight Sim all the time. I think I'm ready to be a pilot.

Well, by the same token, I play Kerbal Space Program. That qualifies me to be a rocket scientist, right?

..Old joke is old.

Really now, it stopped being funny ages ago. It's just sad now.

Fox News suplants reality and evidence for their own made up bullshit?!
<<<SHOCKED!

Really what to say? It's Fox News, they're illusionists, that's what they do, distract people from important matter with made up bullshit.

In other news:

http://www.p4rgaming.com/capcom-planning-3-years-worth-of-dlc-for-mega-man-2/

The article seems more of there are people whom went on murdering spree who happen to play violent video games but there is no proof that there is a correlation between the two. Also the quotes given from the murderers showed that there were mental problems such as how Evan Ramsey didn't understand that people would die if you shoot them and he was in high school at the time. Plus why was he even able to gain access to a firearm?

They are making a false causal link in the following way:
Serial killers usually start out by mutilating pets, therefore getting your kid a puppy to play with is inevitably setting the child up for becoming a serial killer.

If video games can make people killers, why aren't I a child-rapist after all the anime and manga I've watched/read, especially after Kodomo no Jikan, Sky Girls, and Pantsu--er Strike Witches?

Guys, Everyone calm down!
It's just like the Megalodon "documentary" Discovery played last Shark Week. They play it off like they're super serious then at the end of the credits, they flash a screen saying that none of it was true.

"Three more recent killers... all were active video game players."

Something else that those killers had in common was the need to breath oxygen...oh god...it all makes sense now. BAN OXYGEN!

Can we file a class-action suit against them for slander? Maybe that will shut them up.

I thought we were past this obvious flame baiting, Fox is trolling hard.

I'm gonna actually address one point here.

Of course mass murderers are obsessed with violent videogames. They're often obsessed with violence. Violent videogames, violent paintings, violent books, anything violent they can get they're hands on, and no, it is not "feeding" their obsession, the obsession is already bloody there.

But y'know what, go ahead fox. Make the world laugh at you more. Have your little pocket of fucking morons who take you seriously believing you. By this point, most of the non braindead world has had it with you, and knows that trying to make you act rationally is a fool's game.

What? Fox News isn't in favor of violent games? I never would have guessed!

When asked if I'm a viewer of Fox News, I tend to respond that I'm instead in favor of their vehement abrogation.

I, for one, think it is hilarious that there is a Google Ad for Assassins Creed 4 on top of the page of the article. On my load anyway - I wonder if that's just me.

It's Fox guys. FOX. What do we expect? Wanna write angry letters they could turn into some twisted story about how we're all brainwashed? /sigh

acolyte:
"Three more recent killers... all were active video game players."

Something else that those killers had in common was the need to breath oxygen...oh god...it all makes sense now. BAN OXYGEN!

You might be on to something! Those killers all drank water too, right? Well then we need to ban water! And they wore clothing, right? Then we need to ban clothes!

And they all lived on Earth...which means...WE NEED TO BAN THE PLANET!!

Scrumpmonkey:
They're re-airing 'The Columbine Scapegaot'? Why don't they just go ahead and blame Marlyn Manson too? Its about as relevant.

Shhh! Nobody believes music makes people violent anymore!

...Unless it's rap.

evilneko:
If video games can make people killers, why aren't I a child-rapist after all the anime and manga I've watched/read, especially after Kodomo no Jikan, Sky Girls, and Pantsu--er Strike Witches?

Keep in mind, Fox News would probably label you a pedophile anyway.

The Great JT:
Can we file a class-action suit against them for slander? Maybe that will shut them up.

They already won a lawsuit essentially stating they're not beholden to truth and are for novelty purposes only. I think a lawsuit would merely give them more fuel and waste our money.

triggrhappy94:
Guys, Everyone calm down!
It's just like the Megalodon "documentary" Discovery played last Shark Week. They play it off like they're super serious then at the end of the credits, they flash a screen saying that none of it was true.

The only difference is Megalodon needed a disclaimer.

thedragon232:
The article seems more of there are people whom went on murdering spree who happen to play violent video games but there is no proof that there is a correlation between the two. Also the quotes given from the murderers showed that there were mental problems such as how Evan Ramsey didn't understand that people would die if you shoot them and he was in high school at the time. Plus why was he even able to gain access to a firearm?

Ramsey also had a seriously fucked up childhood. His dad even took a gun into a newspaper office and took hostages because they wouldn't publish his letter. If that's where you're getting your sense of right and wrong, what chance do you have?

But I think you're being a little too light on Fox News here. They went out of their way to front-load this article with a bunch of prejudicial quotes about a link between violent games and violence and only at the end did they acknowledge that there might be another side to the story.

Doclector:

But y'know what, go ahead fox. Make the world laugh at you more. Have your little pocket of fucking morons who take you seriously believing you. By this point, most of the non braindead world has had it with you, and knows that trying to make you act rationally is a fool's game.

The "braindead" are scared and vote in massive numbers. They also tend to be the most dangerous.

Fox News? You mean the people who eat babies are going to argue that video games create murderers? Ok if you need me I'll be in the I'm not insane cave enjoying my copy of GTA V

At this point, all we can do is look to Faux Noose the way we might at the frothing lunatic with a "The End is Nigh" poster across his chest. That is, evasively, after which we just go on our merry way.

Gaming's a young medium and the fuddy-duddies haven't gotten used to how quickly things have changed in the last fifty years. They'll latch onto something else at some point, and we'll all become their new pundits because the New Thing will become *our* catalyst for all of Society's evils. Gaming's going to come off the hook eventually, but we'll always need a sacrificial goat at the ready.

Because God forbid we ever admit that there might sometimes be something seriously wrong with our friends and family.

"Jimmy didn't need a counsellor; all he needed was to come off the XStation Thingy! Oh, and it would've helped if he'd accepted Jesus as his personal Lord and Savior!"

Considering that the Supreme Court gave violent video games protection under free speech Fox News is just wasting its time at this point. But I guess they don't have anything better to do.

Zachary Amaranth:

Doclector:

But y'know what, go ahead fox. Make the world laugh at you more. Have your little pocket of fucking morons who take you seriously believing you. By this point, most of the non braindead world has had it with you, and knows that trying to make you act rationally is a fool's game.

The "braindead" are scared and vote in massive numbers. They also tend to be the most dangerous.

Yeah...I forgot about florida. And texas. And the large majority of the bible belt. Goddamn, can the intelligent people of america just secretly develop ways to give themselves superpowers and take over?

Trilligan:
Am I the only one who finds it utterly fascinating that 95% of those votes came from Texas? Like, most states have fewer than 10, a few states have about 1300, and Texas is like, 400000.

That's . . . weird.

Texas is a heavily Republican state.

Fox News is a heavily Republican news station.

It's not all that weird.

It is, however, rather hilarious that most of their own viewership doesn't think video games have any relationship with violence in society. Almost like they're old enough to remember when this same line was trotted out for movies, and television, and books, and comics, and every other form of media capable of expressing violence.

Jim Sterling did something on this a while back. http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/6692-Desensitized-to-Violence

Like I don't know why we bother with people who claim this anymore. It's like saying that they all have toothpaste in their house so that must have made them violent.

Doclector:
Yeah...I forgot about florida. And texas. And the large majority of the bible belt. Goddamn, can the intelligent people of america just secretly develop ways to give themselves superpowers and take over?

Personally, I'm planning on going the LEx Luthor route myself....

...Lex Luthor? No, I meant Tony Stark! Yeah, that's it! I'm not a criminal sociopath, just a drunk with immense power!

>.>

IamLEAM1983:
At this point, all we can do is look to Faux Noose the way we might at the frothing lunatic with a "The End is Nigh" poster across his chest. That is, evasively, after which we just go on our merry way.

Unfortunately, Fox still has enough people listening that that's quite hard.

icythepenguin:
Considering that the Supreme Court gave violent video games protection under free speech Fox News is just wasting its time at this point. But I guess they don't have anything better to do.

Rulings can change, however. Or rather, new rulings can come out on new grounds. Gaming is still young enough it might end up going back before the Supreme Court in a way that most media wouldn't.

Comics are exempt because I suspect they'll come up in front of SCOTUS sooner rather than later because of any number of things, but mostly the whole "child pornography" thing. You know, kids who read manga getting busted for "kiddy porn?" Though to be fair, I haven't seen many stories on that recently....

Rap might also come up, because punk rap is nothing but death and crime and the rage of a BEAST!

CriticKitten:

It is, however, rather hilarious that most of their own viewership doesn't think video games have any relationship with violence in society. Almost like they're old enough to remember when this same line was trotted out for movies, and television, and books, and comics, and every other form of media capable of expressing violence.

What surprises me is that they haven't taken it down. FoxNews.com has a reputation for removing or doctoring unfavourable polls (most recent one I can think of is when a gun control poll didn't go their way, it was locked then suddenly had thousands more pro-gun votes on it. After being locked. This is common).

Fox News is a lot like WWE in that sense. The only difference is one is run by carnies and the other is a wrestling promotion.

Dr.Awkward:
You know what? The only way we're going to get Fox News to shut up is if we get together, buy them out, and shut them down permanently. If we can do that, it would show just how tired we are of the sensationalist shit we have to deal with every day that comes from them and other news outlets.

Does... does this mean you'll make a kick starter? I'll give you money. I'll give you all the money.

Zachary Amaranth:

icythepenguin:
Considering that the Supreme Court gave violent video games protection under free speech Fox News is just wasting its time at this point. But I guess they don't have anything better to do.

Rulings can change, however. Or rather, new rulings can come out on new grounds. Gaming is still young enough it might end up going back before the Supreme Court in a way that most media wouldn't.

Comics are exempt because I suspect they'll come up in front of SCOTUS sooner rather than later because of any number of things, but mostly the whole "child pornography" thing. You know, kids who read manga getting busted for "kiddy porn?" Though to be fair, I haven't seen many stories on that recently....

Rap might also come up, because punk rap is nothing but death and crime and the rage of a BEAST!

While I agree that rulings can be changed it is much harder to change a precedent then it is to create one. Anyone trying to ban video games will have a significantly harder uphill battle.

The only way I can see the ruling changing is if someone brought it up about child pornography as you mentioned may happen with comics. Still I doubt it will change anything as I'm unaware of any provision in the constitution allowing for limits on rights. For example, Canada has a provision that allows the government to place a "reasonable limit" on any right in the interests of public safety. Its what allows for the strict hate speech laws in Canada. If such a thing exists in the US constitution than maybe there is a chance for anti-violent videogame people to get them banned.

Funny how IGN and Fox are owned by the same corporation.

Dr.Awkward:
You know what? The only way we're going to get Fox News to shut up is if we get together, buy them out, and shut them down permanently. If we can do that, it would show just how tired we are of the sensationalist shit we have to deal with every day that comes from them and other news outlets.

I don't have a ton of money, but I would definitely contribute to this cause.

OT: These people really need to find some new scapegoat, or, I don't know, maybe actually look for the real root cause. Something to the nature that humans have the capacity for both amazing kindness and odious evil.

barbzilla:

OT: These people really need to find some new scapegoat, or, I don't know, maybe actually look for the real root cause. Something to the nature that humans have the capacity for both amazing kindness and odious evil.

Solutions are bad for the bottom line, though. Education is bad for the panic and fear that sells Fox to people.

Can't Rockstar, Activision etc sue the ass off Fox for defamation, lying to their audience etc? Or doesn't America have laws that require what you broadcast to millions of people not be full of bullshit?

*remembers what he saw on Fox News when he visited the states and other stories he's heard* ....... I'm going to lean towards no.

RicoADF:
Can't Rockstar, Activision etc sue the ass off Fox for defamation, lying to their audience etc? Or doesn't America have laws that require what you broadcast to millions of people not be full of bullshit?

*remembers what he saw on Fox News when he visited the states and other stories he's heard* ....... I'm going to lean towards no.

The big thing about American law in this category is that by adding 'possibly' or 'some say', it turns it into a constitutionally protected opinion instead of blatant lies and libel. And this applies to statements from corporations because, and I'm not lying about this, a clerk wrote an opinion about a case that THE SUPREME COURT REFUSED TO HEAR.

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