Fox News Begins Two-Part Series Linking Games to Mass Murder

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Hey, check your facts before posting this drivel. I don't know how much more of this lack of integrity I can take, especially from the writers of the Escapist.

...I mean, where you do you get off using the descriptor "news network"? :P

In all honesty more annoyed at this point.

I just want to say that Fox New failed with that headline. Don't the know jurnalism 101? Headlines are supposed to be short and to the point like "Be shocked! Some shit!" and not drawn out slobs of boring like "This is a headline for an article we hope you find interesting".

What? Nothing else worth commenting on.

I hear 10's of 100's of millions of people playing video games. Shouldn't we have a shoot out in a school like every other day if these obviously not correct people were correct?

At this point I am convinced that fox news is run by left wing people whose only joy in life is to push the boundaries of right wing stupidity.

Adam Jensen:
I'm not touching this one, and neither should you. I don't care anymore. Let's ignore them together and play our violent video games. Let's not actually engage in a meaningful rebuttal of this meaningless crap.

only video game violence is going to save us now.

...
I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

Anyone watching Fox News for legit information will have already made their mind up on the matter. That's what Fox News does - reaffirms the paranoia of the bottom of the barrel right wing retards.

KeyMaster45:

MCerberus:

Zachary Amaranth:

God, I am so SICK of this conspiracy theory bull! There is nothing to fear from fluoride!

...It's a distraction ploy by the reptile people. It's MILK you have to worry about! MILK keeps you from making the connection between reptiles, chemtrails, and Obama's secret Martian army!

WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!

...Wow. That was...Interesting. Did I write that?

So you're saying The Milk Man works for Fox News?

Yes, for he is The Milk Man, his milk is delicious, and his deliveries must be completed.

I love you all....I really do.

@Topic: Its so adorable to see adult media people be ignorant. :'D

I'm reminded of a quote I learned in a Statistics class: "Correlation does not imply causation." Just because many of these young men played violent games, does not mean the games made them violent. That's like blaming a childhood game of cops and robbers for the actions of John Dillinger. In the same manner that every young boy probably played cops and robbers as a kid in those days, you'd be hard pressed to find a young boy these days that doesn't play violent video games in some capacity. Just because a few of the kids turned out to be nuts, doesn't mean that the video games made them nuts.

TL;DR: Go home Fox News, you're drunk.

What rubbish. Not one murder has ever been linked to gaming. Now sports, thats been linked to murder many times. Recently 3 English football fans were stabbed in a premeditated attack just because they support a rival team. But we never see this type of hysteria to ban sports. Then you have religion, also linked to murders and terrorism....still no plans to ban religion.

Thing is, it used to be music, then EC comics, then movies and now games. Im sure in about 10 years they will blame something else instead of looking at the real cause. An in every game related murder, there was also something else involved like abuse, mental issues etc

Like Yahtzee did in his E3 2009 video, I feel that anything I could say would be repeating myself so I'm just going to express my feelings with s strangled noise from the back of my throat. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.

These mass killer also shared other common traits, like breathing oxygen and drinking water. PEOPLE AT FOX NEWS HURRY! STOP BREATHING OXYGEN AND DRINKING WATER! IT MIGHT MAKE YOU A MASS KILLER!!!

Over 99.9% of all mass murderers have watched news on the TV. The link is pretty obvious. We must remove all news stations from the airways before we pay for their folly with our lives.

Birds fly, fish swim, the sky is blue, fox news makes massive generalizing sweeping statements about subject matter they barely know anything about in order to drum up ratings and drag america back to the 50's. Can we move on?

Of course Fox News is going to put out a special on violent video games. What else are they supposed to do a special on? The lives that have been ruined or even ended by the actions of people who were acting on bad information from political sources?

Wait a second, are people still taking Fox seriously in the news department?
That is pretty funny.

But I do hate they are ruining journalism and news for all of us.
Other then that, lets just ignore them, we are better then what Fox thinks of us!

Although they are going to have a party when they find out what we can do in GTA. :D

its just another load of bull i grew up playing games like mortal kombat, doom 1-3, and many others and i am no problems. they want to blame somebody i blame the stupid parents not doing their research about the game then buy an Adult rated for their 10 year old and not once look at the box or ask what type of game this is. in my opinion i think each store should have a screen with that plays the trailers or explains the themes and subjects covered in the game rated past T. also the government just wants something to blame so they pick video games as an outlet.

Ragsnstitches:
One would think Fox would be a good standard to measure stupidity, but I think doing so lowers the bar too much.

That said, I don't think you should link their site. The last thing we want is to direct traffic towards them.

This guy. Listen to this guy.

How is Fox news existing? Cant somebody in the us take them to court for naming themselves a news service? Isnt that fraud?

Fox should make a series linking videogames to sexism. People would rally in support of it.

"Important factors like availability of guns... are forgotten"

Ah? Well, let's address that immediately:

Given that the stated intent is to keep mass-murderers from getting guns, how would you change the availability of guns to have the desired effect?

This isn't even about mental health, which the author puts forth as a separate issue. It's about preventing a future mass-murder by preventing access to guns for someone who may not yet have committed any crime. Absent the psychic psychobabble of Minority Report, we're left with reducing the number of available guns.

How?

Guns don't evaporate. Hundreds of millions are already legally owned in the United States. If you want to reduce that number, you have to confiscate them, something gun-control proponents vehemently deny any intention of. In fact, they laugh off the very idea.

So if you're not going to confiscate guns, what good would it do to ban their sale? How well has that worked for drugs? Aren't we routinely informed that banning drugs merely pushes the existing demand into black-market routes? If someone can cross the US/Mexico border --- one of the most porous in the world --- carrying 50 pounds of marijuana, what's to keep them from carrying ten handguns? "Dime bag and a Magnum, please."

I find that the "availability of guns" mentality has a distinctly European flavor. Great Britain, for example, is often held up as a model of gun control Americans should look to.

An island nation with one of the most powerful naval forces in the world, and a total land area which could fit nicely inside the US state of Texas. It's rather a bit easier to patrol the Channel than the Mexican border... in fact, it would be easier even if the Channel were completely filled in to form a land bridge. And even if that were the case, none of Britain's neighbors are particularly known for their violent gun-toting drug cartels.

In practical terms, the only way the US could reduce firearm availability to any significant extent would be to ban most if not all of them, confiscate anything not approved by federal authority, and put a giant wall on the Mexican border, treating anyone approaching the same way the British Navy treats unannounced visitors sailing for its beaches.

Welcome to the Police State everyone says they don't want.

lacktheknack:
A simple sanity check says "Someone cracked the system in Texas and voted 400,000 times".

That's why it's a garbage poll.

Or it was posted to a massive site where gamers gather, say /v/, reddit or Facebook and a whole lot of people from outside of the US voted and their votes counted as a vote to Texas. I'm Australian and I checked Texas' votes before and after I voted and it rose by one vote. Though I'm sure there would be some messing around with the number there would still be plenty of "real" votes for no.

Off-topic: You changed your avatar and this one doesn't mess with your head :(

Fox News: Australia's revenge.

Calbeck:

This isn't even about mental health, which the author puts forth as a separate issue. It's about preventing a future mass-murder by preventing access to guns for someone who may not yet have committed any crime. Absent the psychic psychobabble of Minority Report, we're left with reducing the number of available guns.

People could also do things like...Policing. But where would we find such "police" to do this job?

Many of these shooters had threatened to shoot up the places they threatened. Simply acting on this sort of information could prevent shootings in and of themselves. I know this doesn't impact gun availability, but if you find someone who's threatened to shoot up a school who has guns for some reason, one might put two and two together and think something's up.

Guns don't evaporate.

Of course they do. They're also biodegradable.

Let's be serious, though. That's a short-term problem. Guns are routinely put into disuse through multiple methods, including destruction and even neglect. Plus, gun sociopaths are sure to ensure that any such law would gradfather in old weapons.

There would be no confiscation of guns.

If someone can cross the US/Mexico border --- one of the most porous in the world --- carrying 50 pounds of marijuana, what's to keep them from carrying ten handguns? "Dime bag and a Magnum, please."

Conflating scare tactics. I LIKE IT!

In practical terms, the only way the US could reduce firearm availability to any significant extent would be to ban most if not all of them, confiscate anything not approved by federal authority, and put a giant wall on the Mexican border, treating anyone approaching the same way the British Navy treats unannounced visitors sailing for its beaches.

Welcome to the Police State everyone says they don't want.

Or, you know, we could NOT jump to hysteria the minute someone suggests gun control. It sounds crazy, I know, but perhaps not as crazy as jumpuing to "police state!" when someone suggests maybe guns on demand aren't a good thing.

If someone can cross the US/Mexico border --- one of the most porous in the world --- carrying 50 pounds of marijuana, what's to keep them from carrying ten handguns? "Dime bag and a Magnum, please."

Actually a serious problem - for Mexico. You see America's relatively lax gun control laws mean that Mexican criminals who want weapons cross the border to get them.

America is actually the leading source of the Mexican drug cartels' guns. Not something you generally hear from the likes of Fox News.

SSJBlastoise:
Or it was posted to a massive site where gamers gather, say /v/, reddit or Facebook and a whole lot of people from outside of the US voted and their votes counted as a vote to Texas. I'm Australian and I checked Texas' votes before and after I voted and it rose by one vote. Though I'm sure there would be some messing around with the number there would still be plenty of "real" votes for no.

It's extremely hard to get an amorphous mass of people to all do the same thing during a site-trolling, some would claim it's impossible. It's much more likely it's one person who figured out how to vote over and over.

Off-topic: You changed your avatar and this one doesn't mess with your head :(

soon

I think the thing that bothers me the most is the redundancy of the title. "Training simulation."

Apart from that, it's FOX. The only people who take FOX seriously are old and crazy people who decided a long time ago whether or not they think games affect people's minds. The rest of the world will keep turning, and FOX will keep pandering to their favorite old and paranoid demographics.

You know what's an even better connection to shooting sprees than games? Guns. In fact, 100% of all gun crimes occur with guns.

Calbeck:

Welcome to the Police State everyone says they don't want.

Dude, do you even know about the NSA? It's already there mate. It's already there.

Captcha: Star Spangled. <---- WELP.

Linking events that are already an extreme statistical minority to a cause that has a sampling size in the hundreds of millions.

I'd say this makes FOX New's credibility worth SHIT, but to do that would require elevating SHIT to FOX News' level.
Ignore the media trolls and move on.

Pressing X does not teach someone who to utilise heavy arms, or make them want to go kill the 1st person they see outside.

They don't have homicidal tendencies because they play violent games, they probably get off on virtual murder
because they have homicidal fantasies. And even saying that is really, really extreme.

And why is this so upsetting? Either the show makes up some complete bullshit in which case only the kind of idiots who already know next to nothing will be convinced - which are also the kind of people that are already dead-set on hating video games regardless of what you do.

Or the show actually makes some valid points about the connection between violent media and mentally unstable individuals, in which case all we can do is nod and acknowledge the truth.

So what does it matter?

To blame video games as the cause for mass shootings is much like blaming NASA for a kid shining a laser pointer in a pilots eyes. Sure, NASA shines lasers into the sky that bounce off of the moon or some other celestial body, but they didn't make the kid do the same thing (didn't happen, just an analogy). Much the same, Duke Nukem 3D isn't going to force me to kill a group of people and then say a pun. What the real problem is is personal responsibility. It is the job of individuals to parse the data they see (playing Counter Strike, slaughtering a sheep, eating a bagel) and understand what they can and can't do. If they decide to murder a group of people, that's their responsibility. They did it.

Welcome to America, leave all reasonable arguments at the door.

llagrok:
Welcome to America, leave all reasonable arguments at the door.

Please do not associate Fox News with America as a whole. They do not speak for us.

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