Fox News Host Wants to Monitor Your Gaming Habits

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Fox News Host Wants to Monitor Your Gaming Habits

Fox & Friends host Elizabeth Hasselbeck has suggested that the government monitor game purchases in the wake of the DC Navy Yard shooting.

In case you've been too busy playing mind corrupting videogames to check up on the news, the Washingtion D.C. Navy Yard found itself the scene of a mass shooting a few days ago that, sadly, claimed the lives of thirteen people and injured another eight. The shooting, naturally, has led many to ask why these sorts of things happen, a question that, of course, has led some to look at videogames.

The culprit this time would be Fox News which, at several points during a discussion on the shooting, turned its attention shooter Aaron Alexis' background as a gamer. "He's got a friend, who said, 'Yeah, he had an obsession with video games,'" said co-host Brian Kilmeade. "He would come over and he would be playing so long - these video games, these shooting games - we'd have to give him dinner, we'd have to feed him while he continued to stay on them.'"

Host Elizabeth Hasselbeck meanwhile suggested that perhaps the government should begin monitoring game purchases to help single out "people susceptible to playing videogames." While she affirmed that she's not one that wants the government to "monitor everything" she rolled around the idea that perhaps we should start "looking at frequency of [game] purchases" and "how often they're playing."

There are, of course, a few things to note about this Fox & Friends conversation. The first few minutes of the segment, for instance, don't talk about videogames but rather about supporters of gun control using this latest shooting as a jumping point to reignite the gun debate. We're not going to weigh in on that argument, but it is pretty clear that Hasselbeck and company would prefer that guns remain unrestricted. That in mind, the somewhat sudden switch to "hey, what about those videogames?" comes across almost like a parent jiggling their keys to distract a scared child. It's not really a bad strategy either, especially considering how many Americans still think videogames contribute to real world violence even though studies would suggest otherwise.

Source: Kotaku

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The registration and tracking of firearms sales? Absurd.

The registration and tracking of video games sales? Totally legit.

Only in America.

I don't know. They are really starting to come across as desperate about the whole 'games cause violence' issue.

I wonder if they're worrying about losing funding from anti-gaming people and are trying to pander to them.

I've been playing alot of smite lately, so obviously the Government should be watching me since I'm apparently training for when Jesus comes back. THAT'S RIGHT CHRIST! I'M READY FOR YOU!!!

I'd like to point out that this is coming from an organization that calls itself Fox NEWS while readily admitting they don't provide a NEWS service. They obviously speak only in lies and thus solves the first part of the riddle, now to find the organization that speaks only in truths and then we can open the damn door.

More Faux Noose crap. Movin' right along, folks!

This story proves one thing without doubt. Video games lead to rude behavior such as overstaying your welcome and causing polite people to feed you instead of asking you to leave.. With that said, I have a friend with an xbox and I'm STARVING. See ya!!

I cannot palm my face any harder. I'm tired of these.......lets say asshats...gaining momentum on this. Now I've played M rated games when I was in my young teens, and I was well aware that it wasn't real, nor did it every make me want to go on a murder spree. I'm playing GTA5 now and I still don't feel the urge to kill.

Ya gotta love how they immediately skirt the issue of gun control and jump to the scapegoat of the day.

It's strange in America... It doesn't matter who the victim is, from a school full of children to the President of the United States, It will NEVER squelch America's love affair with the gun.

***ALSO***

A mentally questionable person with access to videogames is NOT a threat.

A mentally questionable person with access to firearms IS a threat.

"He's got a friend, who said, 'Yeah, he had an obsession with video games,'" said co-host Brian Kilmeade.

Ah, second-hand anecdotal evidence. Scientific proof of a link between videogames and violence!

I know that it is not perfect but I always get a great feeling of appreciation for the BBC when I read stuff like this. At least in england this carp is confined to newspapers so you know to avoid them, and nobody belives newspapers anyway. I would hate to live in a country where people have to listen to this crap.

My sympathy to all the American esacpists out their.

All guess what all shooting have in common Guns and in most cases a history of mental problems god damm it fox news

If only my face and my palm could occupy the same space at the same time

Because, you know, you can totally kill people with a videogame. As we all know, games kill people. Not people, who buy firearms or somehow find firearms. It's not because the society, bad medication, bad education, bad upbringing and the rest make total nutjobs out of people. No, it's those deranged videogames. Please, tell me more about how Harry Potter and DnD promote satanism.

The Gentleman:
The registration and tracking of firearms sales? Absurd.

The registration and tracking of video games sales? Totally legit.

Only in America.

Where's the reddit up arrow when I need it?

What continues to shock me is comments like "he used to play for so long we had to feed him." So you knew he had an addiction to something that does not have physically addictive properties, you enabled this psychological addiction, and it never occured to you that mental health might be the issue? Or here's a fun idea, there have been crazy people since before videogames existed, and maybe, just maybe, crazy people will continue to exist.

I find it hilarious that Fox News, long time advocates of smaller government and less intrusion into private lives, would even dare to suggest that the government track individual purchases of games. Federal, state, and local governments can't even track adopted children for crying out loud. How would they remain aware of millions of game purchases?

National Geographic online linked to a study that doesn't link violence to games.

Link here. It would be great if somebody on The Escapist staff could request a copy of the full study, which I believe is free with journalist credentials.

National Geographic also linked to a study, co-authored by the US Secret Service in 2002, using data from school shootings from 1974 to 2000. Of the ten key findings:

"...There is no accurate or useful profile of students who engaged in targeted school violence.

...Most attackers had access to and had used weapons prior to the attack.

...The use of profiles...is not an effective approach to identifying students who may pose a risk for targeted school violence...."

Link to PDF.

"No accurate or useful profile". What do I take that as? Games were not a common link.

Argh! The stupidity of these Fox News idiots is pissing me off!

So the party that claims to be small government, and is supposedly against spying thinks that we should monitor the free market? What a bunch of hypocrites, Fox makes me sick.

Where's Ron Paul when you need him? Come back to congress!

I think we need registration and tracking of stupidity first, because that mount of dumb on a single couch should be downright illegal.

A nice summary of American conservatism in general right there. "Big Government is bad!... Unless it's for people or things we don't like. Then Big Government is the most awesome thing ever!"

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to go bludgeon people to death with WiiU tablets. According to these people, it's far more dangerous than a gun.

a guy that can't take a couple of minutes from gaming to eat and socialize clearly has bigger problems than "violent video games" clearly this dude had bigger issues than went unresolved which might have led to his ultimate decision

but if he was yelling things out like 'fag, gay, get back in the kitchen, and numerous racial slurs' while he opened fire then yeah video games are probably to blame

Time to get out the signs with "we want Gun Safety" written on them. US citizens, contact your congressmen about gun safety, and tell them that you want it.

Before someone ask:
1: Gun Safety is a rebranding of "Gun Control". It's the same, only much harder to attack.
2: This is relevant because it will make Fox News really, really mad if it passes.

Edit:
1: Fox, your source for them being "addicted" is Fox News.
2: I will blame the shooter for 10 bullets, and the rest on US' stupid gun laws.

RT:
Because, you know, you can totally kill people with a videogame. As we all know, games kill people. Not people, who buy firearms or somehow find firearms. It's not because the society, bad medication, bad education, bad upbringing and the rest make total nutjobs out of people. No, it's those deranged videogames. Please, tell me more about how Harry Potter and DnD promote satanism.

Technically you can kill someone with a videogame, if you snap the disc in half.

wasn't it said he was discharged and being helped for mental issues

Its the same with Tea partiers and liberterians in general they all are for smaller govt and etc unless it is something they do not like like gay marriage, video games, or the few that do not like guns. then they are all for more govt more laws and more hyprocracy.

or the same with gamers that say well guns are bad because people might misuse them, but video games....

would be nice if people stayed true to their core beliefs rather than considering them disposable or changable depending on their opinion of a topic.

basing laws on what a small minority might do is insane, when the vast majority use those things responsibility.

Mr. Omega:
A nice summary of American conservatism in general right there. "Big Government is bad!... Unless it's for people or things we don't like. Then Big Government is the most awesome thing ever!"

Quoted for truth.

As a general rule, I don't trust anyone who invokes "big government" and similar/related terms. 95% of those who beat the drums of smaller government are hypocrites with no sense of irony; these same people are perfectly fine with shit like the Patriot Act (or at least they were when Bush did it) or gay marriage bans. Things that are government interference writ large.

"While she affirmed that she's not one that wants the government to "monitor everything" she rolled around the idea that perhaps we should start "looking at frequency of [game] purchases" and "how often they're playing."

Read: She's not one that wants the government to monitor THINGS THAT AFFECT HER.

The Gentleman:
The registration and tracking of firearms sales? Absurd.

The registration and tracking of video games sales? Totally legit.

Only in America.

misterprickly:
Ya gotta love how they immediately skirt the issue of gun control and jump to the scapegoat of the day.

It's strange in America... It doesn't matter who the victim is, from a school full of children to the President of the United States, It will NEVER squelch America's love affair with the gun.

***ALSO***

A mentally questionable person with access to videogames is NOT a threat.

A mentally questionable person with access to firearms IS a threat.

You are misreading it all. There is active tracking and registration of firearms in US. When you legally buy a gun on US soil, the government knows about it. There is a common ignorance found with most people outside the US and that is that we have unrestricted gun ownership, and you are all completely wrong. You cannot buy a firearm anywhere on US soil without a background check being done, legally speaking. But last time I checked, there are illegal firearms on every single continent, regardless of the laws. He legally owned a gun, but that doesn't automatically make him crazy enough to open fire on a bunch of people. He played violent videogames, that doesn't automatically mean he is going to arm himself and shoot people.

OT:

Both the discussion of blaming guns and the discussion of blaming video games are both red herrings. Neither of these things are to blame for the actions of one mentally disturbed individual. It doesn't make sense to bann either of them outright because it's not logical at all to make everyone who isn't crazy, pay for the crazies. The vast majority of people who play videogames will never commit a crime like this, if any crime at all. The vast majority of the people who own guns out there will never commit murder with them or rob someone at gunpoint. But it's the instant go to for people who are actually quite ignorant about guns, just like videogames are the go to for people who are ignorant about videogames. I'm not going to sit here and argue that him having a gun or access to a firearm wasn't a problem though. Clearly, if had he no access to a firearm then this particular tragedy would not have been so bad. But the discussion should not be reduced to, "It's all videogames for being murder simulators!". Likewise, the argument that if guns weren't so prevalent in the US then this wouldn't have happened, are not benefificial because you are basing any argument off of something that cannot be tested. If your argument is not falsifiable then it's based off of a fallacy. And I would reduce the arguments of Look at countries A,B and C as special pleading simply because those places are not this place with this situation.

Meh, that was fun if not completely pointless. I'm not really looking to get into any arguments with anyone, I'm not even a gun owner. I don't like them, I have seen the damage they can do and I'm not interested in shooting anyone. Likewise, I'm not realistically at any actual risk of getting shot by a crazy, or I should say the risk is so small that I'm not actually concerned. There is only a .00103% (math is not my strong point... so my decimal may not be totally correct) chance of me dying due to some form of firearm. As Kahneman pointed out, the human brain is so ill equipped to handle this percentage, it carries a LOT More decision weight than it should. I just can't stand when arguments are over simplified is all. Also... who can really stand so called "discussions" on Fox News. The people who watch it are already convinced that the gun control situation is perfect (not a point any sane person would take, despite my defense of the whole thing it can clearly use work) and they don't even want to chalk it up to mental health because of Obamacare (which I don't agree with at all because it's fucking me out of my health insurance at the end of this year) and healthcare costs. Too "socialist" for them.

Gizmo1990:
I know that it is not perfect but I always get a great feeling of appreciation for the BBC when I read stuff like this. At least in england this carp is confined to newspapers so you know to avoid them, and nobody belives newspapers anyway. I would hate to live in a country where people have to listen to this crap.

My sympathy to all the American esacpists out their.

We don't actually have to listen to this carp. Fox News is just one of several cable news stations; we also have several news programs on "the big 3" broadcast stations. I think a pretty large number of Americans are very much aware that Fox News is the Daily Mail of the US.

Most Americans also have access to the BBC and other foreign news programs.

You shouldn't feel bad for us. If not for Fox News, we wouldn't be as entertained by the Daily Show.

OT: Devoting any time to some random thing that Hasselbeck says is a real waste.

This is one of those situations where it seems the media is desperate to find something or someone to blame other than the fact that the guy who did the shooting had mental issues, snapped, and the end result was a terribly tragedy.

From what I recall from the billions of different reports (someone feel free to correct anything I've got wrong):
1) He was of legal age to buy and play any games he wanted.
2) He *legally* bought the shotgun in a different state.
3) He had a *government issued* permit to carry a concealed weapon.
4) The pistol he used came from somewhere inside the Naval facility. No AR-15 was involved.
5) He was discharged (not in a bad way, a general discharge) from the military after some run-ins regarding conduct. As is SOP when people leave the military, he would keep his 'secret' clearance level for 10 years.
6) Quite a few people seemed well aware of his PTSD, the voices in his head, and his penchant for violence (shooting through neighbor's floors, shooting out the tires on a car, etc.)
7) He *passed* an in-depth background check to get a job at a contractor who worked for the Naval place
8) He had a legit security badge to get into the facility.

What Fox (and many pundits) seem to have difficulty with is that the vast majority of events leading up to this were perfectly legal, including the purchase of the shotgun, and normal. He passed background checks on multiple occasions. The one huge clue that seemed to be overlooked was the PTSD, the anger, and the voices, but when he snapped that could have just as easily resulted in him driving his car off a cliff or jumping out of a window. Sadly, what he did was far more horrific.

In hindsight it's easy to say, "oh well, he shouldn't have been allowed a gun or video games because he was a nutcase," but the reality is that his friends and colleagues would never even dream that he'd do something like this, because you never think that your friends and family are capable of such atrocities. That's human nature.

In an ideal world, he would have been encouraged to see someone about his mental problems, but it didn't happen and, instead, his friends enabled his irrational behavior and addiction by doing things like not kicking him out when it came to dinner time and, instead, feeding him so he could carry on gaming.

The person to blame is dead, so the media want something tangible to blame in his place.

Perhaps we should have an idiot registry, where we monitor the actions of idiots like Hasslebeck and Fox News.

You know, the moment I heard about a shooting, I knew that some really stupid people would jump on the "video games cause violence!!!" wagon again, it happens every time. Some psychopath shoots a bunch of people (why is it shooting BTW? I don't hear the same thing with somebody stabs or blows up a bunch of people) and instead of blaming the actual PERSON THAT DID IT like they should, they blame video games. Then there's studies started that find no correlation between video games and violence, and then it's quiet for a while until the next shooting and the cycle continues.

Well I certainly hopes the government doesn't because all my recent hours playing saints row 4, red faction guerrilla and rome 2 mean I'm planning to take over the world with spartan rebels and command them with superpowers, get ready world nothing can stop me now!

In real world news faux has said something to grab attention and sound like dumbasses as always.

Is anyone REALLY surprised at this point?

Fox News would rather have a dead 5 year old, with a load gun in hand.

Than a living 5 year old, with a full charged DS in hand.

DiamanteGeeza:

6) Quite a few people seemed well aware of his PTSD, the voices in his head, and his penchant for violence (shooting through neighbor's floors, shooting out the tires on a car, etc.)

This can't be highlighted enough.

Sounds like a terrible case of neglect from somebody, on either a small or large scale.

Fox News on top form, bringing us ideas that are both morally repugnant and completely batshit impractical.

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