Microsoft Warns: Don't Stand Your Xbox One Vertical

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Microsoft Warns: Don't Stand Your Xbox One Vertical

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Do it at your own risk, says Microsoft's Albert Panello.

"It wouldn't be a cooling problem, we just didn't design the drive for vertical," says Microsoft's Albert Panello. "Because it's a slot loading drive, we just didn't design it for both." Thus comes the latest commandment from on high: stand ye not your Xbox One vertical, lest plagues of locusts strip the earth bare. Or possibly the console will just stop working. But according to Panello, Microsoft has made a study, and 80% of Xbox 360 owners keep their console horizontal, as the creator may, or may not, have intended.

"Do it at your own risk," says Panello. Whether or not this makes a difference is entirely up to you, the purchaser. It's a pity that darn slot drive is getting in the way; makes you wonder how other consoles manage.

The Xbox One is due November 22nd, in its 13 initial launch markets. An unknown date in 2014 is the projected release outside the initial launch zone.

Source: GameSpot UK

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Do they think people are really that stupid?

I'm serious here.

EDIT: saw the statistic...don't know why anyone would do that to hardware that obviously was meant to be horizontal. Only thing I can think of relates to saving space.

Pretty sure the Wii, PS3 and PS4 could be stood vertically and they've all got slot loading drives...

My 360 has stood vertical for a good few years now, mainly for space reasons. Never had an issue with the drive, but I'll heed the advice for the Xbone and ensure theres horizontal space!

*blink*blink*

Seriously?

They really did throw out the baby with the bathwater when they designed this thing, didn't they?

MinionJoe:
They really did throw out the baby with the bathwater when they designed this thing, didn't they?

Everything about it screams bad design. Not trustworthy at all. And then you have to remember the 30% failure rate of Xbox 360 back in the day. That was unacceptable. I sure as hell wouldn't risk buying a new Microsoft console on launch for that reason alone.

This could be a significant limitation. For example, I would have to keep it on the floor. Which would make it run hotter. I literally don't have enough space for this thing anywhere else.

Something tells me that the quality of the Xbone is the same as the first 3 revisions of the X360: horrible badly designed paperweights.

MinionJoe:
They really did throw out the baby with the bathwater when they designed this thing, didn't they?

I bet it's a cost thing, a slot drive that can safely run vertically probably costs a dollar more than one that doesn't.

I'm waiting to see what the big manufacturing error will be in the Xbone, there will be something, I'm banking on it being related to that non-removable hard drive.

Wait.....So if I buy this thing which is $500+ I can't put it vertically? If I spend $500+ on a thing, I want to put it any orientation I please!

Microsoft is going to get the stupidest company in America award this year.

While I admit the Xbone is pretty much box-shaped, the 360 has always been a strange hourglass shape. The only flat sides are the 'sides', so of course I stood it vertical. And, due to space reasons, the only other option would be to put it horizontal and stand the monitor it's hooked up to on top of it, and I feel like that would be damaging both to the 360 and the Xbone.

This doesn't really affect my opinion of the console as much as its other problems, but it may be the last nail in the coffin.

Is it me, or does just scream shoddy, cheap, parts? Considering the Wii, and PS3 (the first and second iterations at any rate) had slot loading drives and could be stood vertical, how poor a drive do you need so that this is problem?

Evil Smurf:
Wait.....So if I buy this thing which is $500+ I can't put it vertically? If I spend $500+ on a thing, I want to put it any orientation I please!

Microsoft is going to get the stupidest company in America award this year.

How's this for a suggestion: you spend the $500+ on your Xbone, then orient it horizontally in my house. There'll be loads of space for it there.

Teoes:

Evil Smurf:
Wait.....So if I buy this thing which is $500+ I can't put it vertically? If I spend $500+ on a thing, I want to put it any orientation I please!

Microsoft is going to get the stupidest company in America award this year.

How's this for a suggestion: you spend the $500+ on your Xbone, then orient it horizontally in my house. There'll be loads of space for it there.

Next time I have a bad idea, I'll call you!

fix-the-spade:

I'm waiting to see what the big manufacturing error will be in the Xbone, there will be something, I'm banking on it being related to that non-removable hard drive.

I'm betting it'll be this horizontal-only optical drive.

MS went through 3-4 different models of CD drive in the 360 before they found one that was semi-reliable. The first 360 I owned wouldn't even open the tray unless there was a disc in it. Opening the tray without a disc already in it required the use of tools to get it open.

So, yeah, that drive is my top candidate for hardware failure. And once drives start failing, MS can just come back and say, "We warned you to only use it horizontally!" Easy way for them to get out of replacing defective boxes.

Dragonbums:

EDIT: saw the statistic...don't know why anyone would do that to hardware that obviously was meant to be horizontal. Only thing I can think of relates to saving space.

What makes it obvious? The only obvious reason to not put the things vertically is the horizontal advantage of not being able to be knocked over, something that only matters if the console is placed where that is likely. The shape is not dissimilar from my current 360, which is perfectly fine running vertically and has been doing so for years.

WickedFire:
Is it me, or does just scream shoddy, cheap, parts? Considering the Wii, and PS3 (the first and second iterations at any rate) had slot loading drives and could be stood vertical, how poor a drive do you need so that this is problem?

Exactly the thought I had, makes you wonder just how deep MS's accountants claws dug into the development of the XBone.

I mean the freaking Wii has a multi-orientation drive, how cheap are these fools?

While it does seem arbitrary and one wonders why they would go back of the vertical ability of...every other console...it is a reasonably small limitation.

Am I the only person on this board who is horrified by the very thought of putting an Xbox (or Playstation or CD player or DVD player or a PC that's not a tower) vertically. It's just...wrong...somehow. Ugg. I'm happy that Microsoft has come out strongly against this vile practice.

I love statistics that sound good one way but bad the other way. They're still forcing 1/5th of their potential customers to change their living room arrangements because they couldn't bother getting a decent quality drive.

"Made for your living room" they had said at some point.

Evil Smurf:
Wait.....So if I buy this thing which is $500+ I can't put it vertically? If I spend $500+ on a thing, I want to put it any orientation I please!

Microsoft is going to get the stupidest company in America award this year.

I know exactly what you mean. I spent way more than $500 on my car and it can only work when it's horizontal. I should be able to use my car when it's standing vertical. So stupid that Ford designed a car that way.

Evil Smurf:
Wait.....So if I buy this thing which is $500+ I can't put it vertically? If I spend $500+ on a thing, I want to put it any orientation I please!

Microsoft is going to get the stupidest company in America award this year.

If I buy a bluray player for that money I probably won't be able to put it vertically either. Not without risking breaking it.

Come on people. So you have to keep it horizontal, big fucking deal.

It's one thing after another, isn't it?

Don't do a 90 with the 180.

Evil Smurf:
Wait.....So if I buy this thing which is $500+ I can't put it vertically? If I spend $500+ on a thing, I want to put it any orientation I please!

Microsoft is going to get the stupidest company in America award this year.

Careful, The Microsoft fanboys might start to question your "orientation".

Next they'll announce that you can't attach a cable to one of the corners and dangle it from the ceiling, and a bunch of people will complain vociferously.

spwatkins:
Next they'll announce that you can't attach a cable to one of the corners and dangle it from the ceiling, and a bunch of people will complain vociferously.

You think you're joking...I have the cable modem at my house currently set up in just that arrangement. I needed it near the ceiling for all the cords to reach where they needed to without buying new ones and didn't have any furniture tall enough in what's basically a storage room now to do it with.

Oh and as for the actual story? I think people are complaining more than is really required. Yes it's a touch annoying, yes other consoles let you use vertical orientation. But there's a lot of equipment out there that doesn't allow you to choose how you want to orient it, and I never thought of it as being some inalienable right for all game consoles.

MinionJoe:

fix-the-spade:

I'm waiting to see what the big manufacturing error will be in the Xbone, there will be something, I'm banking on it being related to that non-removable hard drive.

I'm betting it'll be this horizontal-only optical drive.

MS went through 3-4 different models of CD drive in the 360 before they found one that was semi-reliable. The first 360 I owned wouldn't even open the tray unless there was a disc in it. Opening the tray without a disc already in it required the use of tools to get it open.

So, yeah, that drive is my top candidate for hardware failure. And once drives start failing, MS can just come back and say, "We warned you to only use it horizontally!" Easy way for them to get out of replacing defective boxes.

Why do I get the sinking feeling that this is going to hppen?

While not the end of the world, it could pose problems with limited space or those who use desk/workstations as gaming centres.

On the bright side Sony can add another item to 'reasons why the PS4 is superior' list.

Xenominim:

spwatkins:
Next they'll announce that you can't attach a cable to one of the corners and dangle it from the ceiling, and a bunch of people will complain vociferously.

You think you're joking...I have the cable modem at my house currently set up in just that arrangement. I needed it near the ceiling for all the cords to reach where they needed to without buying new ones and didn't have any furniture tall enough in what's basically a storage room now to do it with.

Oh and as for the actual story? I think people are complaining more than is really required. Yes it's a touch annoying, yes other consoles let you use vertical orientation. But there's a lot of equipment out there that doesn't allow you to choose how you want to orient it, and I never thought of it as being some inalienable right for all game consoles.

Yeah, I used to do that with my router also.

Over the years I've owned a PS2, Xbox 360, and Wii, and with the exception of the last, have never oriented them vertically. I mean, I understand that the vertical option gives you some flexibility with use of space, but is the lack thereof really that big of a deal? Are people really looking for more reasons to bash this thing? Or better yet, do they need more? Will I ever stop italicizing words for emphasis?

I'm just thankful that they bothered to mention it at all.

Ed130:

Why do I get the sinking feeling that this is going to happen?

Because the corporate world is a cruel, cruel place. ;)

While not the end of the world, it could pose problems with limited space or those who use desk/workstations as gaming centres.

Which is, effectively, my situation. My 360 is currently in a vertical orientation. Has been for years and that's the space that it has carved out for itself among the other peripherals in my entertainment center.

The advantage I have for vertical over horizontal is more than just space though. One, the 360 cools better when vertical. Granted, this may not be the case for the XB1.

Two, I have dogs and vertical keeps dust/hair from settling into the side vents. Those huge, gaping cooling vents on the XB1 will undoubtedly gather larger amounts of dust and dander when in the required horizontal orientation.

There's a reason PCs went from a horizontal desktop orientation to a vertical mini-tower configuration in the mid-90s. It's because dust settling on the motherboard kills electronics. A vertical motherboard extends the lifespan of a computer.

Move over Red Ring of Death, here comes the Vertical Slot of Death (not to be confused with the Vertical Slot of Embarrasing Rashes).

Jadak:

Dragonbums:

EDIT: saw the statistic...don't know why anyone would do that to hardware that obviously was meant to be horizontal. Only thing I can think of relates to saving space.

What makes it obvious? The only obvious reason to not put the things vertically is the horizontal advantage of not being able to be knocked over, something that only matters if the console is placed where that is likely. The shape is not dissimilar from my current 360, which is perfectly fine running vertically and has been doing so for years.

The 360 however is often shown being oriented in both positions.

However the Xbox One has only been showed to be place horizontal.
Thus one can deduce that that is how you place the device.

Companies don't need to tell consumers not to put toasters on their side do they?

Hazy992:
Pretty sure the Wii, PS3 and PS4 could be stood vertically and they've all got slot loading drives...

PS consoles since at least the PS2 were actually designed with that in mind (heck, the PS2 even came with a stand IIRC). The PS2, PS3 and Wii do just fine vertically. As for the PS4, we'll have to see. It'll probably be able to stand upright, given its predecessors, but who knows.

Why would the XBOne's slot loading drive stop working in a vertical positioning? That just means they used an inferior component, since ANY laptop slot loading drive can easily be used vertically. Not to speak of any other CD/DVD/BD drive for PC/laptop, those just don't take the mini discs when vertical.

On the other hand, why didn't they design the case of the little PC they sell there with not putting it vertically in mind? I mean if you aren't meant to put it down vertically, just round the outer edges such that it can't stand properly.

On the other hand, I could buy PC components and dangle them upside down from the ceiling, and they'd still work fine. They'd also be cheaper, so I'll be doing just that while waiting for the eventual release of GTA V for Windows.

It was already bad for the 360 to be vertical, something which I didn't know till a gamestop employee informed me.

Their poor design made it so the slightest vibration would cause the laser lines in your discs.

Not a deal breaker for me, but it all depends on your set-up on your TV stand.
Of course, this could be further them pushing the idea of the xbone being your one stop shop for all things entertainment, as long as you're willing to pay.

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