Reuters: US Consumers Prefer PS4

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Reuters: US Consumers Prefer PS4

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The numbers get even more intriguing when you talk to the under-40 crowd.

The PS4 will go head to head with the Xbox One in November - just in time for those all-important Christmas shopping days = and the question both manufacturers are puzzling over is, which will be the better seller? Will the $100 price tag difference sway hearts and minds, or will American consumers stay loyal to the Xbox? A recent Reuters poll suggests that, at least in the States, consumers are choosing Sony's PS4 over the Xbox One, by a fairly healthy margin. Of 1,297 people polled, 27% said they were likely to purchase the PS4 when it becomes available, as opposed to 15% who prefer the Xbox One.

But what about the under-40 crowd, the ones most eager for a gaming console? Of those 408, 40% go for the PS4, and only 27% for the Xbox One. Mind you, that's assuming they go for anything at all. One other highlight of this poll was the number of people who weren't keen on buying any console, at least not right away. Maybe after the Christmas rush, or once a few titles are out, but for 64% of the 1,297 total, a new console generation meant nothing. It didn't matter what choices were on offer - even the Steam box - these consumers aren't about to shell out for a game system this Christmas.

Some of you will have already made your choice - probably also made your preorder - but for the rest, if Reuters is to be believed, you'll be sitting on your hands this year. If so, that spells very bad news for the console makers; good sales are the gift Microsoft and Sony really need come December.

Source: Reuters

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Microsoft better hope that's not the case as NA was/is? their largest market.

I'm more surprised that 27% of the under-40s want the X1 - given that it's a lot more expensive, due to a peripheral no-one really wants (Given by sales figures for the Kinect 1), and that's even ignoring the massive PR problems caused by always online / restricted used games etc etc.

Personally, I'm in the 64% who won't be buying a new console. I just can't see the benefit of being an early adopter anyway, and this new generation doesn't really offer me anything I want anyway.

Yeah, in an age of the NSA spying on everything, revealing that your console is always online and always watching was the worst thing Microsoft could have done.

NightHawk21:
Microsoft better hope that's not the case as NA was/is? their largest market.

Yeah, remember all those additional 'features' like fantasy football that was only available for the US or something?

This does not look good.

This really does make me happier than it should be. The USA market really was Microsoft's planned fallback, arguably their target acudience. Now that they don't have that...things aren't looking so great for them. Sorry Microsoft, it doesn't matter how many Xbones you can make if no one WANTS them!

I wouldn't mind throwing my paycheck at Sony, if I was earning a paycheck. But right now I'm not and the market for that piece of paper is far more fierce than anything that may happen between 2 billion-dollar games manufacturers.

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NightHawk21:
Microsoft better hope that's not the case as NA was/is? their largest market.

Yeah, remember all those additional 'features' like fantasy football that was only available for the US or something?

This does not look good.

Methinks we'll end up waiting for a sequel to the Xbone for more than 10 years.
Way more.

Wow, Microsoft getting beat on their home ground? Truly embarrassing. Oh well, hopefully Sony can deliver what has been hyped.

Meh, this is only one poll. The XB180 will still sell well enough. There's plenty of people who genuinely like the console with all of it's features and specs, and plenty of other people who will buy it because of brand name familiarity.

Frankly, this doesn't surprise me.

Microsoft really screwed the pooch with PR earlier this year, and the more casual consumers that heard about it probably didn't hear about their slew of 180s. Even many active gamers who did see the news either don't believe it'll stick or won't buy an Xbone on principle. Not to mention that, yes, $100 is really really going to make a difference, unless you just love Halo that much.

And worldwide? Xbone's initial (and total) global reach is crippled comparatively, and many of its touted features are US-exclusive.

Even with the backpedaling, it really feels almost as if Microsoft doesn't want the Xbox One to succeed.

erttheking:
Sorry Microsoft, it doesn't matter how many Xbones you can make if no one WANTS them!

I wonder how many people planning to buy an Xbone are doing so expecting it to attain Virtual Boy status among collectors in a decade.

Karloff:
Maybe after the Christmas rush, or once a few titles are out, but for 64% of the 1,297 total, a new console generation meant nothing. It didn't matter what choices were on offer - even the Steam box - these consumers aren't about to shell out for a game system this Christmas.

...If so, that spells very bad news for the console makers; good sales are the gift Microsoft and Sony really need come December.

I'm sure Sony and Microsoft are going to be devastated that over a third of the market wants to buy a console on launch day.

I got to admit, when I was ready to throw consoles away for good sony has really picked up their game. Even now they are releasing non stop high quality exclusives that grab my attention. I never even HEARD of the Puppeteer since 2 days ago when my sister called me telling me how great it was and from what I see of psn they have definitely made it worth the cost in my eyes.

Where sony has surpassed my expectations and got me excited for their new console when I swore off this gen of consoles, microsoft has done absolutely nothing of interest after disgusting me.

Spaceman Spiff:
Meh, this is only one poll.

And it's an online poll.

NightHawk21:
Microsoft better hope that's not the case as NA was/is? their largest market.

Always their largest market. The 360 has been interesting, it benefited more from the PS3's enormous price than from it's own quality. Given the reversal in prices and Sony apparently learning to be nice(ish) to developers it seems likely for Microsoft to fall away from the parity in sales they've had this generation. It won't fall off a cliff like the Xbox did ten years ago (or at least Microsoft hope it won't) but unless Titanfall's Xbone version is truly mind blowing it's hard to see where they're ahead software wise.

Is an online poll of 1,297 out of 316,756,000 people really a big enough sample size to claim the results represent the entire nation?

9thRequiem:
I'm more surprised that 27% of the under-40s want the X1 - given that it's a lot more expensive, due to a peripheral no-one really wants (Given by sales figures for the Kinect 1), and that's even ignoring the massive PR problems caused by always online / restricted used games etc etc.

Personally, I'm in the 64% who won't be buying a new console. I just can't see the benefit of being an early adopter anyway, and this new generation doesn't really offer me anything I want anyway.

My friend was going to get an X1 regardless, though he was less sure before the backtrack. His loyalty was gained through his experience with his 360.

I've also found that there are quite a few people who have a high preference to the 360 controller. It's enough of a preference to sway their console purchase based on comfort during play.

I'm one of those that wouldn't buy an X180 out of principle.

anyone following preorders on sitesl ike amazon could already tell you that. Microsoft is loosing big time on their home turf. In fact amazon preorders for PS4 software is more than double that of Xbox One software in USA - the home turf of Xbox. They arent loosing this generation, they already lost. and unless they pull some truly magical things and mnage to ship 10 million copies on launch day or something thier not going to stand, either way.

Jamash:
Is an online poll of 1,297 out of 316,756,000 people really a big enough sample size to claim the results represent the entire nation?

Yes.

Spaceman Spiff:
Meh, this is only one poll.

Correction: Its only one of many polls.

Depends on what my financial situation is at the time. That said, though, I'd obviously be leaning towards PS4 considering the fact that it's $100 cheaper and my financial situation is the determining factor of if I'll get getting a new console at all before Christmas.

To be fair, the fact that MS finally did roll back EVERYTHING that made the XBone a horrendous concept does make it appealing to me...just because I'm pretty sure that all my friends will likely be getting XBones. At this point the only thing holding me back would be the extra $100.

I still say that now that they've made the Kinect completely optional they should therefor swallow their pride and offer a cheaper version of the console that doesn't come with a Kinect. I really can't see why they're so obsessed with that failed product.

I am thinking about getting a PS2, or a 2DS, if aynthing

Karloff:
One other highlight of this poll was the number of people who weren't keen on buying any console, at least not right away. Maybe after the Christmas rush, or once a few titles are out, but for 64% of the 1,297 total, a new console generation meant nothing. It didn't matter what choices were on offer - even the Steam box - these consumers aren't about to shell out for a game system this Christmas.

This is certainly where I fall. I have every intention of getting a PS4 at some point before Metal Gear Solid 5 comes out (unless it gets a simultaneous PC release), but from what I've seen of the launch lineups for both new consoles, neither has anything compelling that won't also be on PC. The closest either console has come (at least for me) is with inFAMOUS: Second Son (launch window, not day one), but even that's not system seller material.

People tease the GameCube for its ridiculously sparse launch lineup, but honestly Luigi's Mansion was better than any exclusive launching with the PS4 or Xb1, and Super Smash Bros. Melee was better than any launch window game either system has. As far as I'm concerned, two must-have games is better than a dozen meh games.

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That's not a bad response this early on in a console life (more than a month before launch). I mean, 42% of respondants likely to purchase near launch? Wow. 67% for the under 40 crowd?

I'm not sure why the author of this article went the other way. I'm also not sure why they arrived at 64% of the original respondants not caring. When 27% said ps3 and 15% said XBO, that kinda seems like 42% which would leave the rest of the respondants in the 58% category.

Even then, I am absolutely decided on the ps4 as this point but will wait a couple months to make sure there's no RROD equivalent. So I would fall into the 58%. So how anyone arrived at 64% not caring is wrong.

This is a really good result early on for these consoles.

Has the hate-train has generated enough page views since May? Any other small internet polls to confirm the site bias?

I'll bet Microsoft has gambled everything on the Xbone being a symbol of status more than anything else.
As if trying to copy Apple has worked out for them before. Also, Apple actually explains convenience/selling points first and foremost instead of function and design.

Man, consoles are DONE. No one is ever going to invest in consoles after they see Microsoft crash in November and burn for the coming months.
At the end of this generation, the cheapest P.C will be more powerful and beautiful than any console.

We are living in a REALLY weird time where people are trying to make communities out of belly-button lint and have to decide if they're an independent narcissist or a worthless consumer sheep (which are two sides of the same coin.)

People are more interested in a cheaper and better product? I am truly shocked!

When apathy strikes the console market, PCs will likely see a resurgence. I've already got a couple people thinking about switching and buying a gaming PC.

I'll get one of the new consoles... eventually. I have a pretty decent gaming PC that I use mostly for MMOs and the odd Elder Scrolls/Fallout here or there, but I've always enjoyed consoles and probably always will.

I'm wondering if that poll had an 'I'll get both' answer because that's what I would have said. Which one I get first depends on who has a more attractive set of exclusives. I'd go all PC but every year there are console exclusives that end up being fantastic and I'd hate to miss out on them. But for now? I'll sit on the fence a while longer. Every single time I've adopted a system early I've always been bored to tears with it for the first year and a half so it's just not worth it.

Jamash:
Is an online poll of 1,297 out of 316,756,000 people really a big enough sample size to claim the results represent the entire nation?

The raw number is plenty - more than enough for our simple purposes. Sampling bias would be the bugaboo. (Past a certain point, the size of the total is mostly irrelevant.) An on-line survey is by nature heavily biased and self-selected, which means you'd expect a powerful bias in favor of people who are interested in consoles, and can afford them, in the first place. Likely the real number of people interested in buying a console is much lower than presented by this study.

The ratio might be accurate, though, at least amongst this rarefied group.

I just bought a DS so can't really see why i would even consider buying a next-gen console the next 4 years, most consoles takes ages to build up a decent library of games anyway.

not buying anything until Atlus stops teasing us and says where Persona 5 is coming out

RJ 17:
Just to grab your attention ;)

WARNING! OFF TOPIC!

Although I'm not particularly interested in the console race unless the SteamBox looks interesting, I've still been keeping an eye on the Kinect 2.0, and I'm pretty surprised that they've barely bothered to show the thing off other than a few tech demos here and there, and instead just rant about how 'awesome' it is.

Just like the last one I've been willing to give it the benefit of the doubt, but it's a little annoying that Microsoft and it's fanboys want to endlessly talk the thing up, yet can't prove that it's any good. I've even asked UnnDunn himself to provide footage of it being used in-game, and he's yet to get back to me (just goes to show the best way to shut an Xbone fanboy up is to say "prove it" XD).

Oh, wait...

I've just found an actual hands-on for the damn thing:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Kinect+Xbox+one&oq=Kinect+Xbox+one&gs_l=youtube.3..0l6j0i5.5124.6571.0.6958.9.9.0.0.0.0.230.893.7j0j2.9.0...0.0...1ac.1.11.youtube.UfO7lW9OGqg

Don't know how to just pop the video into the post, sorry :/

I guess my entire point was originally that I think we should wait for something to work with before we judge the Kinect 2.0... but of course don't forget that we've been waiting while MS talked the thing up endlessly using PR nonsense and insulted people for being iffy about it.

AAAAAAAND OT.

I'm not sure how a poll of barely two thousand could possibly be a good statistic of the entire populous, but hey, whatever. Still, if even MS' backup country fails it, they'll be up Shit Creek without a boat.

Infernal Lawyer:
Just like the last one I've been willing to give it the benefit of the doubt, but it's a little annoying that Microsoft and it's fanboys want to endlessly talk the thing up, yet can't prove that it's any good. I've even asked UnnDunn himself to provide footage of it being used in-game, and he's yet to get back to me (just goes to show the best way to shut an Xbone fanboy up is to say "prove it" XD).

The thing about UnnDunn is that he doesn't really have "arguments", all he has are anecdotes and similes to try and water down other people's arguments. The best he can do is the best MS can do: try to spin the topic so that the XBone appears better than it really is. All the "benefits" of the XBone (as it was originally announced) have been thoroughly debunked since day one of the announcement. UnnDunn will never be able to prove to gamers that the mandatory online connection was a good thing, that the "Family Sharing Program" as anything but a glorified demo service, that the Kinect 2.0 was anything other than a gimmick. An upgraded gimmick since the original Kinect, but a gimmick none the less.

Every time he's faced with the hard facts of the matter, his case falls to pieces and he abandons the topic.

The fact of the matter is that there's no need to give the new Kinect the benefit of the doubt and give it a try, because the market has already shown that people don't want to be dancing around in their livingroom like a loon just to play their games. It was a failed product when MS released the original one, and it was a bad idea to force the thing onto people by coupling it with the XBone.

Then there's the tid-bit that it listens to your conversations for key-words so that it knows what kind of ads to put on your dashboard and everyone realized what the true purpose of it was always intended to be: a spy cam.

SilentRuss:
Man, consoles are DONE. No one is ever going to invest in consoles after they see Microsoft crash in November and burn for the coming months.
At the end of this generation, the cheapest P.C will be more powerful and beautiful than any console.

Man, consoles are DONE. No one is ever going to invest in consoles after they see Sega Saturn/Dreamcast/etc. crash in...

Maybe Microsoft consoles specifically. But consoles have a wide range of advantages that my very powerful pc simply doesn't cover (extensive multiplayer/party games/convenient media device/plug and play gaming for the entire life of the console/cheap computing cost). As consoles become increasingly more like PCs while maintaining the advantages of consoles the need for a steam box will be less and less. Even then, a steambox is likely to be a console itself anyways, just with a pc gaming library instead of Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo IPs.

RJ 17:

Infernal Lawyer:
Just like the last one I've been willing to give it the benefit of the doubt, but it's a little annoying that Microsoft and it's fanboys want to endlessly talk the thing up, yet can't prove that it's any good. I've even asked UnnDunn himself to provide footage of it being used in-game, and he's yet to get back to me (just goes to show the best way to shut an Xbone fanboy up is to say "prove it" XD).

The thing about UnnDunn is that he doesn't really have "arguments", all he has are anecdotes and similes to try and water down other people's arguments. The best he can do is the best MS can do: try to spin the topic so that the XBone appears better than it really is. All the "benefits" of the XBone (as it was originally announced) have been thoroughly debunked since day one of the announcement. UnnDunn will never be able to prove to gamers that the mandatory online connection was a good thing, that the "Family Sharing Program" as anything but a glorified demo service, that the Kinect 2.0 was anything other than a gimmick. An upgraded gimmick since the original Kinect, but a gimmick none the less.

Every time he's faced with the hard facts of the matter, his case falls to pieces and he abandons the topic.

The fact of the matter is that there's no need to give the new Kinect the benefit of the doubt and give it a try, because the market has already shown that people don't want to be dancing around in their livingroom like a loon just to play their games. It was a failed product when MS released the original one, and it was a bad idea to force the thing onto people by coupling it with the XBone.

Then there's the tid-bit that it listens to your conversations for key-words so that it knows what kind of ads to put on your dashboard and everyone realized what the true purpose of it was always intended to be: a spy cam.

I dunno, ask the right people and they'll tell you they're happy to have their ads tailored for them to, ah, 'cut down on hassle' or something.

In any case, did you watch the video? I thought it looked okay, and the latency is definitely better than the last one, although I still think they'd have to leave it for functions that didn't require split second timing for the less casual games. And yes, I've kept up to speed, I know about the spy-cam and how it was originally made to jump on the motion control bandwagon. (Actually, was it you who posted some amusing picture of an entire family spazzing out in front of a Kinect ages ago? Maybe you only commented on it, but anyway.)

Still, the fact is I like to keep my judgments educated rather than just write it off because the last one was shit (multiple console generations aside, the 3DS was actually Nintendo's second attempt at implementing 3D into a handheld, and the Virtual Boy didn't catch on at all while the 3DS is, well...). That, and I feel somewhat sympathetic for the MS fans who are finding it so hard to defend the Xbone while MS is depraving them the ability to actually refute the naysayers (come on, if you found out that the Kinect 2.0 was actually functional and kickass to boot I'd bet you'd at least have second thoughts about it). Like I said, I don't really care about getting a console, though I know people who are still making up their minds, and they usually go to me for advice, and I'm not sure if they'd accept "because the last Kinect was shit" as a reason not to get one (especially since they have... Kids, and we know how impressed they are by gimmicks XD)

Edit: Oh, and insert some nasty comment about UnnDunn, I suppose. Still waiting, buddy...

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