Boy Brings Gun To School, Father Blames Minecraft

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thebobmaster:
...Minecraft is a zombie-slaying game? That's like saying Call of Duty is about learning the differences between guns. Sure, it is a possible aspect of the game, but a very minor detail nonetheless.

Also, good luck throwing away a game that is only available digitally.

If its the 360 version it did have a physical copy available in stores.

GAunderrated:
I like how the father demonized him playing minecraft for an hour every day yet no mention of how his 9 year old "caring" son got a hold of a gun and ammo.

I wonder if it's really the father or the media scewing his words. He did say the gun was out too, if he means he is getting rid of it then he's accepting that the gun was the issue.

Formica Archonis:

Xan Krieger:
Also if the kid was trying to live out Minecraft in real life why didn't he start by chopping down a tree?

WITH HIS FISTS.

Now that's a news story I'd like to see. Even more amazing when with his bare hands he cuts the tree into planks and builds the start of a new house.

For a moment I thought the source was from WTFV.com. It would have been more suitable.

And seriously, Minecraft, a zombie slaying game? That's like saying Super Mario is about the ethnic cleansing of the Mushroom Kingdom.
Hey dad, maybe it should be the gun going in the trash, since you obviously don't know how to keep it out of the hands of your kid. Whoopdy fucking do for taking out the pin.

Andy Chalk:
Boy Brings Gun To School, Father Blames Minecraft

Minecraft

The father of a nine-year-old boy who brought a gun and bullets to school says the videogames are going in the garbage.

A nine-year-old Florida boy has been sentenced to "home confinement" after being caught with a handgun, a magazine with six rounds, a steak knife and a small sledgehammer. School officials say they discovered the weapons after the boy showed them to three other students, who immediately reported it.

Speaking to WFTV News, the boy's father described him as a "good" and "caring" child, and pointed the finger of blame in the usual direction - but not at the usual games. He said his son brought the weapons to school to emulate "the zombie-slaying game" Minecraft, which he played "every day, for about an hour," and that as a result of the incident, "all those games are going in the garbage."

The good news for all involved is that even if the boy had wanted to go on a shooting spree, he couldn't have done so because, according to the father, the firing pin had been removed from the weapon. Even so, the gun is also "out," although the report isn't clear about whether that means it will be removed from the home or just not left lying around in quite so accessible a location. Either way, it's fortunate that nobody was hurt, and sadly predictable that videogames - and not, you know, wildly irresponsible parenting - would be given the bulk of the blame.

Source: WFTV.com

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Apparently Poe's Law also applies to the "video games are evil" people as well as religious nutters.

TiberiusEsuriens:

thebobmaster:
...Minecraft is a zombie-slaying game? That's like saying Call of Duty is about learning the differences between guns. Sure, it is a possible aspect of the game, but a very minor detail nonetheless.

Also, good luck throwing away a game that is only available digitally.

It's no longer PC/XBLA only. You've been able to buy an XBox hardcopy since June 4th (http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Xbox_360_Edition).

Huh. I stand corrected on that part. Still, the whole "not a zombie-slaying game" part stands, unless I play it terribly wrong.

Another parent convinced that the sun shines naturally out of their child's rectum and that it's everyone else's fault for any trouble they get into. Now the kid is going to be a pariah at school and won't even have any way to blow off steam when he gets home. Congratulations on your shitty parenting.

thethird0611:
Shouldnt the boy of brought a bow and arrow and been able to hit a target square in the bullseye from 100 yards?

But yeah, this whole thing is just a dad trying to pass the blame off to video games instead of taking responsibility. I agree with a few of the people in this thread, where did he put the gun that allowed the child to be able to easily get it? To add to that, where did he have it that he needed to keep the firing pin out of it?

It might have been a show-piece that he never intended to fire, in which case it was probably openly displayed somewhere in the house. Although that then makes the presence of the bullets more puzzling.

I think the article forgot to mention the dad specifically said "In this game, they use hammers to dig". I am incredibly saddened this is how low the "anti game" crowd was swooped.

CriticalMiss:

aegix drakan:

Actually, SCRATCH THAT. My concern is who was bullying this supposedly caring kid until he decided bringing a gun, knife and sledgehammer to school was a good idea.

Probably that green kid in the sixth grade who hisses a lot. He's such a creep.

yeah, or maybe it was that tall bl... on second thought, never mind.

Heh, Minecraft.

Why just the other day I decided to build a floating dirt house outside, ride a minecart to work at the redstone factory, and then take a trip to the nether for some glowstone and quartz.

To be fair, a good chunk of the people I know who play Minecraft have at some point constructed giant death cannons.

CardinalPiggles:
Heh, Minecraft.

Why just the other day I decided to build a floating dirt house outside, ride a minecart to work at the redstone factory, and then take a trip to the nether for some glowstone and quartz.

How fucking dare you use minecarts, AND dirt. It makes us hard workers of stone and wood useless! Putting us outa jobs as you use metals your metals for tracks, AND dirt for buildings. I heard dirt is used for digging graves. Do you bury people alive? You monster.
And THIS. THIS just proves that minecraft is too realistic. I told them that when it started mimicing my job, with their 'high def animation of tree punching' I told them, that it was the start to a dark era. An era of guns, and bad parenting.
...
Does his father really not watch his kid at all to realize minecraft isn't about anything he just said, beyond zombies?

Wait a minute. Are they sure the weapons were intended for fellow students, or was this merely a commentary on the terrible quality of the school dinners he was being served?

Maybe the gun WAS locked up safely. Maybe the kid found the key and unlocked it. It's entirely possible this isn't the fault of the father.

Anyway what baffles me more than anything else is "Mini sledgehammer."

What exactly is that? A hammer? Because if it's actually a smell sledge hammer I'm impressed a 9 year old managed to carry it all the way to school in his backpack along with a gun and a knife.

And now an angry child shoots his father in the leg because of his tyrannical parenting. The games were gone and the gun was back on the coffee table. How can the world be so twisted?! BAN THE FILTH!!

I already said pretty much everything I needed to in the other thread about this so I'm just going to quote myself

canadamus_prime:
Ok first of all, while I've never played Minecraft, I'm pretty sure they use pickaxes and shovels to dig not hammers. And second of all this has to be the biggest leap in logic in the crusade against video games I've seen yet. I don't think even a faceplam is enough to cover this. Perhaps a nuclear facepalm.
EDIT:
Just to illustrate:

Seriously, MINECRAFT??? WTF? That's like blaming My Little Pony. Although...
It does beg to question how the kid got the gun in the first place, but no one wants to think about that. Nope let's just blame video games.

miketehmage:
Maybe the gun WAS locked up safely. Maybe the kid found the key and unlocked it. It's entirely possible this isn't the fault of the father.

Anyway what baffles me more than anything else is "Mini sledgehammer."

What exactly is that? A hammer? Because if it's actually a smell sledge hammer I'm impressed a 9 year old managed to carry it all the way to school in his backpack along with a gun and a knife.

That's the thing, ya never know unless you saw everything right there. If the kid went through the trouble to get the gun from a safe..The kid probably thought it was a toy, or got dared by his buddys playing CoD to get it..Which in either case the Father should have taught the kid that a gun isn't a toy, it's a tool.

If there was undoubtful proof that the father had a safe, kept the guns securley locked up, and the key out of reach while teaching that the gun is a tool, that it can kill a living thing and not a toy to play bang bang with, then yea can blame the kid.

Also seen some pretty decent small ones that come apart and attach..so it's a possibity.

"Escapist commentator blames (very possibly) bad parenting and poor gun safety"

aegix drakan:

Actually, SCRATCH THAT. My concern is who was bullying this supposedly caring kid until he decided bringing a gun, knife and sledgehammer to school was a good idea.

Who said he was bullied? He could have just brought them to school because he thought they were cool.

I know I probably would have when I was younger. Hell, in middle/high school, my friends and I semi-regularly brought home "weapons" or "weapon paraphernalia" that I found in the trails near my house, including knives, mining pics, spent/unspent shotgun shells, random pieces of metal, etc.

Kid probably didn't understand how paranoid our society is over a few trinkets that could hypothetically be used for harm but were likely kept because, frankly, weapons are kinda freaking sweet.

I know my friend was suspended for ten days because a piece of metal broke off of the lunch table and he put it in his backpack because, eh, it was cool. The school suspended him for having a "weapon."

Edit: Of course, that doesn't excuse blame from the parents not teaching his child proper gun safety, and keeping said guns locked until the child understands said safety.

You know what? I am too steamed at this to even type now, so I'll just copy the comment I made elsewhere:

So, ignoring this "father's" startling lack of knowledge about the game his son plays (there certainly are zombies, but the game isn't /about/ them), I just have one question for him: Who left the gun in an unlocked container that's in reach of a 9-year-old child? Or maybe you did lock-up the gun, but Minecraft gave him the key? Please explain this chain of logic you used to come upon the conclusion that some piece of software on a computer is responsible for your child having unattended access to a gun; never mind what he did after gaining said access.

Also, I think it's completely absurd that the BOY is getting in trouble for this. He is NINE FREAKING YEARS OLD! He doesn't know what he did! He probably just thought the gun was cool and wanted to show it off to his buddies. He's a kid, that's how they think (which is to say, not completely thoroughly). He probably wasn't even planning to use the damn thing!

Why, in any news post I can find on this, has no one pointed the finger at the "man" who was supposed to be in charge in this house? Why is no one asking him "Why did you leave a gun unattended with a child in the house?" Why isn't anyone charging HIM for his child bringing a gun into school? Meanwhile he's just tap-dancing all over the lasted buzz craze (if this happened 50 years ago, you know he'd be blaming comics or rock music) and apparently getting-off scott free.

I think that's the thing that REALLY has me pissed about this. I'm used to video games getting scapegoated. It's ignorant, and completely baseless (and I honestly laughed at how much the dad sounds like Hank Hill, because that's just so fitting), but I'm used to it. No no, what pisses me off is that the KID is facing THREE criminal charges over this! He is in risk of having so much shit in his life fucked-up because his DAD couldn't be responsible. Meanwhile, what is the dad getting slapped with? His gun got taken away. And that's it, that I can find.

Seriously, if I knew this guy in person, like if he was a friend or a relative or something, I would have to flat-out stop seeing him. If he asked me why I refuse to see or speak with him, I'd just tell him; If I met-up with him, I would be way too tempted to beat the shit out of him for what he did to his son, so I'd just rather not deal with it.

I swear, nothing steams me up worse than parents like this guy.

...And we read this as News.
Some Nutjob does something stupid and we're like "omg this is so stupid and bad and blabla!".

This is for the Gamers who can be all indignant about all the hate for videogames.

I remember times when some old people could be convinced that Counter strike was there to train the youth to be murderers.

That was all over "News" that catered to People over 40.

Here he have this case where nothing really happened, normally this wouldn't be much to fuss over for the general news.

But some of the videogame hatred is still lingering and gamers are still in defensive posture, so everything where someone does something stupid and videogames are somehow involved it'll get you some views.

I'm just waiting on the day where strong feelings about videogames alone wont make the general news anymore.
Will we then have people like the father of the minecraft playing kid exclusively in videogame news for us to get indignant about?

On that day, i might proclaim that we are now the old People! We are the ones that consume news and get riled up about them without knowing or caring what actually happened.
Go back and read old forum posts where you got annoyed and angry about people believing fox news' bullshit.
You are that.

And when the next thing comes along that we don't understand but young people seem to enjoy, we will be watching Fox news, telling us how evil it is.
We will run to the booths and vote for any politician that can lure us easily with the promise of banning this new thing.

We will ignore any argument and continue to spew propaganda filled hatred against this new thing without understanding.

We will be sitting glued to screens of whatever nature, staring at reports of young people, claimed by this new thing that has been running over the world like the plague that it is and we will staring in silence, judging...

Clearly a quick translation from Floridian to English is required here.

"I'm a goddamn retard and I'm looking for a scape goat! My son doesn't have any actual violent video games so I just pulled the first thing I thought of out of my ass."

Seriously, can we just instigate some kind of standardized testing for parenting? You know, short multiple choice thing, things like "You own a gun. Do you (a) leave it loaded on the floor, (b) keep it somewhere high up or (c) keep it in a gun safe?"

Failing the test results in being spayed.

Oh, come on, really? This is getting gosh darn ridiculous. This is probably the worst "videogames are EVIL" stories I've read. No wonder that kid is weird and brings weapons to school, he apparently has to suffer under an absolutely dimwitted father.

It would have been great if some random gamer that was in the courtroom that day stood up and said

"If it would please the court, your honor, I would like to make an unusual request."

Then proceed to open up his laptop, load up Minecraft, and let the judge play the game for 10 minutes in Creative Mode.

"As you can see, your honor, this game is in no way based around violence. Guns do not even exist within it. All you do is move blocks of stuff around so that you can build other stuff."

With the hopeful intent that the father would then receive the blame he deserves for bad parenting. I dunno what the charge would be...Neglect? Child Endangerment for leaving a gun and ammo in such an easily accessible location? Perjury for lying to the judge about a game so that he could shift the blame away from himself? Like I said, I don't know, but it's clear who's really at fault here.

JokerboyJordan:

He said his son brought the weapons to school to emulate "the zombie-slaying game" Minecraft, which he played "every day, for about an hour..."

Seriously? The kid only plays the game for a fucking HOUR a day and THAT'S the cause for this?! That barely even amounts to a hobby.

But no worries, keep on blaming those evil videogames, surely it can't be poor gun safety or anything like that right?

Probably lying about the 1 hour part. Chances are he uses Minecraft as a free babysitter throughout the day so he doesn't have to do any actual parenting. You know like keeping guns/bullets out of his kid's hands.

I hope this kid becomes a ward of the state, because clearly his parents aren't responsible enough to have children. If it were up to me, that kind of parenting would get you permanently sterilized as well.

K12:
Apparently Poe's Law also applies to the "video games are evil" people as well as religious nutters.

Poe's Law applies to everything. I prefer this wording:

"Any sufficiently advanced satire is indistinguishable from real stupidity.
Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from satire."

Redlin5:
Oh those darn video games, turning our young people into killing machines. Why can't it be like the 70's where people read commie propaganda (disguised as simple comic books) to become killing machines?

No more farming and mining simulators for you boy!

psst that was the 1950's for the 70's you can blame disco and flairs for causing violence

shit parent uses scapegoat to avoid the hard reality that we need to start having a basic parenting test and start sterilizing mass portions of populace because they cant be trusted with a dog let alone a human child.

i dunno its enough to make a reasonable gamer go on a spree!

wombat_of_war:

Redlin5:
Oh those darn video games, turning our young people into killing machines. Why can't it be like the 70's where people read commie propaganda (disguised as simple comic books) to become killing machines?

No more farming and mining simulators for you boy!

psst that was the 1950's for the 70's you can blame disco and flairs for causing violence

The Soviet Union was still subverting America in the 70's! They were using their liberal puppets in the media to attack the government over the war in Vietnam. If their economy hadn't collapsed less than twenty years later everyone would have become a Marxist slave!

Typing that out makes me gag. :P

aegix drakan:
You're shitting me, right?

MINE? CRAFT?! THAT'S what he's blaming? REALLY?

There aren't even GUNS in the game! *facepalm*

My concern is how he was able to get all that equipment and bring it to school

Actually, SCRATCH THAT. My concern is who was bullying this supposedly caring kid until he decided bringing a gun, knife and sledgehammer to school was a good idea.

Daaaah Whoosh:
Even if he was carrying around the weapons because of Minecraft, I'm sure he would have known only to use them when there was no other option. You don't want to be stuck in the middle of school with a broken knife, let me tell you.

Not without a Golden Apple anyway.

Oh,yeah, because you're crap parenting skills aren't to blame,oh no. It's a frakking video game that DOESN'T EVEN HAVE GUNS IN IT. You sir,(the father,not you) are an idiot. There's the door,please leave. Also, hi,aegix! It's been a while I last saw you here.

Madman123456:
...And we read this as News.
Some Nutjob does something stupid and we're like "omg this is so stupid and bad and blabla!".

This is for the Gamers who can be all indignant about all the hate for videogames.

I remember times when some old people could be convinced that Counter strike was there to train the youth to be murderers.

That was all over "News" that catered to People over 40.

Here he have this case where nothing really happened, normally this wouldn't be much to fuss over for the general news.

But some of the videogame hatred is still lingering and gamers are still in defensive posture, so everything where someone does something stupid and videogames are somehow involved it'll get you some views.

I'm just waiting on the day where strong feelings about videogames alone wont make the general news anymore.
Will we then have people like the father of the minecraft playing kid exclusively in videogame news for us to get indignant about?

On that day, i might proclaim that we are now the old People! We are the ones that consume news and get riled up about them without knowing or caring what actually happened.
Go back and read old forum posts where you got annoyed and angry about people believing fox news' bullshit.
You are that.

And when the next thing comes along that we don't understand but young people seem to enjoy, we will be watching Fox news, telling us how evil it is.
We will run to the booths and vote for any politician that can lure us easily with the promise of banning this new thing.

We will ignore any argument and continue to spew propaganda filled hatred against this new thing without understanding.

We will be sitting glued to screens of whatever nature, staring at reports of young people, claimed by this new thing that has been running over the world like the plague that it is and we will staring in silence, judging...

"They're here already! YOU'RE NEXT!" 😱

A nine year old me would have totally and in fact did try to bring a gun to school and all I played back then was tag... I just.. you know... asked my dad first because I new it was his. He recommended we find something else... Gun would've been cool though.

thebobmaster:
...Minecraft is a zombie-slaying game? That's like saying Call of Duty is about learning the differences between guns. Sure, it is a possible aspect of the game, but a very minor detail nonetheless.

Also, good luck throwing away a game that is only available digitally.

OT: i saw this on Kotaku a few days ago, was wondering when the escapist would catch wind of it. I thought it was pretty ridiculous then, especially that this father had the gull to blame minecraft (which has been instituted as school programs) for his kid bringing a sledge hammer, a gun, six rounds, and a knife.

... and I was surprised the kid managed to bring it all. I know it was a hand sledge hammer but still that had ot be heavy and take up a ton of space in his backpack.

An hour?

This kid's got some serious self control. I once lost a damn day to minecraft.

So yeah...not much to say here except that is one dumbass dad.

Also, a small fucking sledgehammer? Maybe include the damn school in that statement.

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