Microsoft Studios VP: PC and Xbox Crossplay "Makes Sense

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Microsoft Studios VP: PC and Xbox Crossplay "Makes Sense

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The future of the industry is a cross-platform "connected ecosystem."

For all those gamers with multiple consoles who need to coordinate what version of a game to buy with their friends, Microsoft Studios' Phil Spencer feels your pain. Spencer, the corporate vice president of the studio, has said that cross platform play between Xbox One and Windows 8 PCs "makes a lot of sense" for the company. "I'm not allowed to leak things," said Spencer when asked the question in a recent interview. "But I think what you're talking about makes a lot of sense."

Microsoft had previously tried such an experiment with the 2007 title Shadowrun, which allowed Xbox 360 and Windows Vista owners to play alongside each other. Spencer, who worked on the title, brought this up in the interview, saying "we didn't have tremendous success with that, but we learnt a lot from it." A few more recent games were further experiments in this field. "Earlier this year we released Skulls of the Shogun, which was a game we launched on all three platforms on the same day, and you could start on one platform and then save the game to the Cloud and play across any of the screens and progress. And then Halo: Spartan Assault has some links between Halo 4 and Spartan Assault, even though they're very different games."

The industry is gradually embracing a cross-platform dynamic, he said, and he sees Xbox Live as being central to that. This "connected ecosystem" across different gaming devices is the future of gaming, he said.

Source: Ausgamers via GamePolitics.com

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I definitely like the idea of cross-platform, but we haven't really seen a working example yet. Maybe with those PS3/Vita games, but that's still in it's early days. And enough with the cloud worship already.

While FPS cross-play is an absolutely terrible idea (Microsoft also acknowledges this) I do think there's some room for xplay in more turn-based play styles - essentially anything competitive that requires twitch reflexes should never used mixed inputs.

TiberiusEsuriens:
While FPS cross-play is an absolutely terrible idea (Microsoft also acknowledges this) I do think there's some room for xplay in more turn-based play styles - essentially anything competitive that requires twitch reflexes should never used mixed inputs.

XCOM came to mind.

Seeing how Microsoft seems to view PCs as little more than glorified tablets, and PC gaming no more than tablet gaming with a mouse, they're probably thinking about doing stuff more akin to what they were proposing with Smartglass than actual cross platform play. This could just be the cynical in me talking, but Microsoft has shown time and again that they really don't care about PC as a traditional gaming platform, and seeing as how their attempts to support PC gaming have been disastrous, I don't necessarily want them to try to support it.

Then again, with the announcement of SteamOS, Microsoft may be realizing that they can't rely on PC gamers always getting Windows, which may prompt them to try to support PC gaming more. I don't think it's likely that we'll see a new commitment from Microsoft for traditional PC gaming, but it's possible.

Also, the title is missing a quotation mark. You have no idea how much this is bugging me.

BlameTheWizards:
between Xbox One and Windows 8 PCs

Just think that point need to be highlighted, they are for crossplay as long as you buy Windows 8, it just another scheme so they can sell more Windows 8.

It's basically the same as the PS4 & Vita, Vita sales are crap so they are heavily developing crossplay for it with PS4 in hopes of selling Vita to everyone who buys a PS4.

No Microsoft, PlayStation and Xbox cross-play makes sense, not console and PC. Of course we'll never get that though.

The bit about Windows 8 was the only thing that stuck in my mind as well. I can understand that they'd want to push that p.o.s onto more people and taking every chance to do so, but it'd be a cold day in hell before I exchange my perfectly functional Windows 7 for that.

TiberiusEsuriens:
While FPS cross-play is an absolutely terrible idea (Microsoft also acknowledges this) I do think there's some room for xplay in more turn-based play styles - essentially anything competitive that requires twitch reflexes should never used mixed inputs.

Arcade fighters differ in that aspect, in EVO you're allowed literally any input...fightsticks, fightpads, analog controllers, hitboxes, one guy even brought a freaking keyboard (he didn't get very far though :P).

But yeah, FPS games will become a complete mess if mouse+keyboard is allowed to mix with analog controllers. After the initial rush of pulling back-to-back headshots on console players while circle-strafing and bunny-hopping all over them them, I think it would just get boring :P

JokerboyJordan:
No Microsoft, PlayStation and Xbox cross-play makes sense, not console and PC. Of course we'll never get that though.

What he said. But then the amount of give and take from both companies might be too much for them.

Microsoft had previously tried such an experiment with the 2007 title Shadowrun, which allowed Xbox 360 and Windows Vista owners to play alongside each other. Spencer, who worked on the title, brought this up in the interview, saying "we didn't have tremendous success with that, but we learnt a lot from it."

That part amuses me. They have learnt a lesson of trying to force an unpopular OS on people and may be planning to rectify that by.. trying to force an unpopular OS on people? Oh Microsoft, you so silly.

I can already hear the squeals of "PC NOOB" and "Nerf the mouse" from the FPS squealers.

TiberiusEsuriens:
While FPS cross-play is an absolutely terrible idea (Microsoft also acknowledges this) I do think there's some room for xplay in more turn-based play styles - essentially anything competitive that requires twitch reflexes should never used mixed inputs.

That's a very, very nice idea indeed,

Gearhead mk2:
I definitely like the idea of cross-platform, but we haven't really seen a working example yet.

Portal 2 and Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn say "Hi". Admittedly, both of those are PS-PS3, but I do feel they are both well-executed.

P.S. Thanks

God damn finally!
Separating gamers is one of my major gripes with consoles. IF they do something about that and make us all one REAL big community where platform wont matter and I with my PC can for an example play with an Xbox one player, then I might actually get Windows 8.

you're gonna need a lot more than that to get me to switch to 8

Yuuki:
After the initial rush of pulling back-to-back headshots on console players while circle-strafing and bunny-hopping all over them them, I think it would just get boring :P

That's exactly what happened in Shadowrun and in trials for TF2/Counter Strike, the 'PC' players with kb/m would go ahead and play the game, whilst the 'console' players on controllers would fight very bravely and die very quickly. Counter Strike was particularly lopsided (hilariously so).

Co-operative FPS could work, something like Borderlands seems made for cross platform play, not sure Left 4 Dead would be so good though.

Hero in a half shell:
I can already hear the squeals of "PC NOOB" and "Nerf the mouse" from the FPS squealers.

I'd expect the opposite to happen, bots/macros set up to auto kick/ban any console players trying to join servers declared PC only by the admins. I'd expect a similar set of console only servers popping up shortly after. Squeakers rapidly get segregated out...

Xbox Live is the key, huh? So this guy expects that PC gamers will suddenly start paying for something they've had for free for fuckin' decades? And use Windows 8 to do it? In an age where companies like Valve are trying to make PC gaming even better, more open and more free than ever this fucker thinks that Xbox fuckin' Live and Windows 8 is what PC gamers want? How far removed from reality are these Microsoft idiots?

And no doubt that xbox players are going to enjoy the stuff PC crowds mod to "enhance" their game.
Not that that wasn't a problem already but this just means there will be more of it.

I wonder how much difference there will be between mouse controls and a joypad controller and what that will do for PVP.

We'll see what happens, doesn't sound all that bad to be honest.

EDIT: Unless he means that PC players need a xbox live gold account or something for this stuff, then this shit won't get off the ground. XD

Covarr:

Gearhead mk2:
I definitely like the idea of cross-platform, but we haven't really seen a working example yet.

Portal 2 and Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn say "Hi". Admittedly, both of those are PS-PS3, but I do feel they are both well-executed.

P.S. Thanks

Indeed, and SE did this already over a decade ago with FFXI which featured cross-platform play across PC and PS2 (and later Xbox 360).

Ironically though FFXIV never saw a 360 release as this time around MS decided they wouldn't allow it to be cross-platform so SE simply didn't do a 360 version.

Once the next gen of consoles release we really need to see more cross-platform imo I know for some types of games it doesn't work too well (FPS being a prime example) but for other genres there's no reason to segregate playerbases as they are currently.

Being able to play against people on other platforms would be kind of cool

But the thing that would REALLY interest me would be the ability to take my Xbox 360/one disks, and pop them onto my PC and play them.

Do that Microsoft, THEN you will have convinced me to pick up Windows 8

As someone whom poured more time into Shadowrun than any other title on the 360, it always kinda surprises me that people treat the two control methods so differently... But then again, I mostly played as a wired reflexes katana-wielding human/troll, so I laughed in the face of precision weapons and map knowledge meant always having teleport lines away from ranged fire anyway.

Control inputs didn't give either side an edge... It was that overpowered thing called teamwork. I lone wolfed almost all the time, but when you get four players on the other side in a party communicating things actually get challenging.

You had your chance Micro$uck, it's over, we don't want or need you anymore. Please, do everyone a favor and get out of gaming all together,

The only thing that I like about this "cross platform" thing is that we PC gamers will get Xbox exclusives to play.

That's about it really, I'm not so much into multiplayer games.

Desert Punk:
Being able to play against people on other platforms would be kind of cool

But the thing that would REALLY interest me would be the ability to take my Xbox 360/one disks, and pop them onto my PC and play them.

Do that Microsoft, THEN you will have convinced me to pick up Windows 8

This, totally this. The Xbone is basically a PC in its hardware and architecture, if Microsoft set up an app for Windows 8 that allows a PC to play Xbox One games I would totally buy windows 8 and pay for Xbox Live if necessary.

Microsoft would never do anything like that though.

Yup, we're going to get just some Plants Vs Zombies turn-based spin off or something. With Microsoft taking the PC as basically some "way to big" tablet, I simply don't give two shits about them or their "gaming" ideas.

Angelous Wang:

BlameTheWizards:
between Xbox One and Windows 8 PCs

Just think that point need to be highlighted, they are for crossplay as long as you buy Windows 8, it just another scheme so they can sell more Windows 8.

It's basically the same as the PS4 & Vita, Vita sales are crap so they are heavily developing crossplay for it with PS4 in hopes of selling Vita to everyone who buys a PS4.

This also needs to be highlighted

The industry is gradually embracing a cross-platform dynamic, he said, and he sees Xbox Live as being central to that. This "connected ecosystem" across different gaming devices is the future of gaming, he said.

Maybe I'm just being paranoid, but if they bring out their new GFWL replacement platform and force people to buy Xbox Live to use any of it's games, I just want it to be known that "I fucking called it".

All I have to say to this is "No f***ing s**t, Sherlock!"

Really...has it really taken this long for these dumbasses to listen to their customers? Of course we want the oppurtunity for cross platform play!

I do understand there are some difficulties in the process, but I will point to the fact that Final Fantasy XI has been cross platform FOR 9 YEARS ALREADY!

Most of the problem has been Microsoft doing it's corporate dick-swinging thing (see also Xbone premiere debacle.) But they are hardly alone and I get that. I really do.

Just irritating to hear corporations saying, "This is a good and completely brand new idea! I'm glad we thought of it!" When the public and the consumer has been asking for it with varying degrees of volume for over a decade.

When did it ever not make sense? It's always made sense! I imagine it wouldn't be too hard to program a few servers to deal with it.

Yeah no Microsoft, you aren't going to get gamers to buy Windows 8 and an Xbox Live subscription to play cross platform games with the Xbone.

That'll just force more people away from you onto SteamOS or Sony.

This would be exactly what Microsoft needs to turn around the upcoming console war and possibly even outright win it.

Once a feature becomes something users don't want to live without they will happily pay 5-10 bucks a month minimum or in this case completely ignore hardware that doesn't support that feature.

This is nothing new, they tried the exact same bullshit with Vista and that was complete crap as well.

Now they are attempting it with an OS designed for tablets with a console that looks like it'll go down with 'New Coke' as what not to do PR-wise.

SteamOS can't come soon enough.

It'll take more than the temptation of roflpwning gamepad players to make Windows 8 successful.

CpT_x_Killsteal:

Angelous Wang:

BlameTheWizards:
between Xbox One and Windows 8 PCs

Just think that point need to be highlighted, they are for crossplay as long as you buy Windows 8, it just another scheme so they can sell more Windows 8.

It's basically the same as the PS4 & Vita, Vita sales are crap so they are heavily developing crossplay for it with PS4 in hopes of selling Vita to everyone who buys a PS4.

This also needs to be highlighted

The industry is gradually embracing a cross-platform dynamic, he said, and he sees Xbox Live as being central to that. This "connected ecosystem" across different gaming devices is the future of gaming, he said.

Maybe I'm just being paranoid, but if they bring out their new GFWL replacement platform and force people to buy Xbox Live to use any of it's games, I just want it to be known that "I fucking called it".

I just read that..nevermind my old comment since it's all pointless because I will never use that garbage called Windows 8 no matter what other people say.

Seems MS is desperately grasping for an edge over PS4. Too bad they haven't actually supported PC gaming in a while, just look at abomination that was GFWL. They would need a new framework to pull that off, so it seems we would be saddled with something GFWL-like again in the future.

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