Ellen Page Nudity in Beyond: Two Souls Triggers Aggressive Sony Response

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Ellen Page Nudity in Beyond: Two Souls Triggers Aggressive Sony Response

Beyond Two Souls Quantic Dream screenshot

Sony is working madly to scrub fully-nude images of Ellen Page's Beyond: Two Souls character Jodie Holmes from the net, leading to speculation that the actress might be considering legal action.

Ellen Page's appearance in Beyond: Two Souls has become a whole lot more revealing than either she or Sony intended, thanks to the slightly creative use of a PS3 dev kit. It turns out that a shower scene featuring her character Jodie Holmes was rendered with naughty bits and all, and then covered up for use in the game, which of course meant that a simple change of camera angle revealed the young Ms. Homes in all her unclothed glory.

Sony's been dropping the hammer on anyone hosting the images for non-specific "legal reasons," but they're still pretty easy to find at this point - and no, I won't be linking them. And while a Sony PR rep clarified that "it's not actually her body," the company also described the situation as "very damaging for Ellen Page" and was apparently seeking to have any coverage of the matter taken down from web sites in order to "end the cycle of discussion around this," although by now it's probably given up hope of that actually happening.

Page herself hasn't yet commented publicly on the matter but Sony's frenzied response to the appearance of the images has led to speculation that legal repercussions could be in the offing. At the very least, it raises some rather awkward questions about Beyond: Two Souls mastermind David Cage: Why would he, or anyone on the Quantic Dream team, rendered Holmes' body in full detail - and I mean, full detail - for a shower scene that was intended to be covered up? And how is it that nobody at Quantic or Sony saw this coming? I'm not sure that characterizations of Page as a "victim" really ring true, since it's really just a matter of her face being shopped onto a CGI body, but it sure doesn't cast anyone on the production side of the coin - and particularly David Cage - in a very good light.

Source: Gaming Blend

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Removing something like this form the internet...oh Sony & Page that's just precious.
Now excuse me while I go laugh up a lung.
Seriously is their legal team run by brain dead chimps? Trying to legally threaten people for taking a picture of a game, I hope they try and take someone to court and someone counter sues the shit out of them.

I love everything to do with David Cage's games. They're always such clusterfucks of bad storytelling, poor design, and uninspired pseudo-occult bullshit. You're never bored with them! They're just too awful to be bored with. This is just the cherry on top of his latest Shit Sundae.

Honestly though, I'm not surprised by this. Seriously, not at all. Has everyone forgotten Cage's last nightmare of an "experience", Heavy Rain, where we're introduced to our female protagonist by ogling her in the shower for a disturbingly long time, and then we get to watch her get assaulted by a bunch of masked men and... frankly, possibly raped?

Well, I guess David Cage got too much emotion into the game than Sony and Ellen Page wanted.

Yeah, if you give people access to a CGI doppleganger of a real life celebrity, you're going to best bet that people will exploit it somehow.

Just googled it, it's underwhelming to be honest. And if you've watched the latest Jimquisition you'll remember that David Cage likes to put pointless sex and nudity in his artful masterpieces QTE-fests, so it's not really a shocking revelation. I wonder if they are going to patch it out somehow, since the screenshots will just keep showing up until they do.

While I admit it took a lotta courage to actually put a fully-nude character model in a AAA game and I will give them credit for covering it up and not making a big deal of it... yeah, unless Ellen Page consented to being rendered au naturel and inevitably being exposed when people started looking in the files, I think Page and Cage should sit down and have a talk.

Also... how old is Ellen's character in that game? Just looking at that mugshot, she looks like a teenager.

So when I went to google images I got a lot of pictures of Jodi Arias and now I hate myself for googling it. Didn't wanna see that psycho ever again. Turns out I spelled the name without the E, my derp. Now that I've fixed that and seen what all the fuss is about, well, it's a naked woman in the shower. I fail to see what the big deal is, she's about average for a woman, neither fit nor fat, it's not some horrible atrocity.

Hmmm. Is this what you mean by "emotion" Dave? Having a secret nudie vid of Ellen in full detail. It would make me "emotional".

Why would he, or anyone on the Quantic Dream team, rendered Holmes' body in full detail - and I mean, full detail - for a shower scene that was intended to be covered up?

I would think the answer is startlingly obvious.

Y'know, as long as the character portrayed is over 18 I don't really see what the big issue is. (Admittedly I've never played the game so she might not be... I also honestly don't care enough to play and find out)

Fuck that! Where's my Willem Dafoe nudity!?

But aw man, first Ellen Page gets confused for being in a way, way, way better game, and now this...

David Cage really can't stop skeezing all over his virtual leading ladies.

That could lead to trouble for sony.. if ellen was not made aware that the figure would come with... well.. "full equipment"

And no matter if its a cgi body.. thats still her face on there. Thats the same as if you shop the face of a person into a porn picture and then spread it around. It is reputation damaging.

Captcha: too late

How very fitting for the toppic... after all if something hits the interwebz it stays there....

Forever!

Ellen Page's reputation is utterly ruined, she'll have to pick work in a strip club... or worse. /sarcasm

Seriously though I've been on the internet long enough to know that there are nude or pornographic pictures of a great deal of celebrities, and judging by what people have described of the picture it's not a big deal. It's not pornographic and distasteful, it's just her character taking a shower.

I would suggest there is going to be a cover up but clearly they're not very good at them.

Still, another notch on the bedpost for the lumbering hulk that is the sex question in gaming.

Niccolo:
Y'know, as long as the character portrayed is over 18 I don't really see what the big issue is.

Ellen Paige's contract will have clauses about unauthorised nudity/demeaning content (I mean, more demeaning than being the face of a Quantic Dream game). Putting 'her' nudey body into the game and then making it accessible, even by back door (no sniggering) means probably has entire armies of lawyers springing up out the ground like Spartoi.

First Ellen Page gets mad at Naughty Dog for allegedly ripping off her likeness, and now EMOTIONS Cage is making nude models of her. Not a good time to be this actress.

Gearhead mk2:
While I admit it took a lotta courage to actually put a fully-nude character model in a AAA game and I will give them credit for covering it up and not making a big deal of it... yeah, unless Ellen Page consented to being rendered au naturel and inevitably being exposed when people started looking in the files, I think Page and Cage should sit down and have a talk.

Also... how old is Ellen's character in that game? Just looking at that mugshot, she looks like a teenager.

The game is set in different times of the character's life, ranging from her childhood to her adult years. The part where she is showering is somewhere around her 20's, I believe.

Why would you render her bits if you aren't going to show them? Wouldn't it have been much easier to make her look like a Barbie doll?

Oh, Ellen Page is just going to love Sony after everything that has happened this past year. First, there was the whole Last Of Us apparent lookalike thing, and now this.

Also the Streisand effect is going to be in play now, now Sony has brought attention to it, it's going to be everywhere.

Soviet Heavy:
First Ellen Page gets mad at Naughty Dog for allegedly ripping off her likeness, and now EMOTIONS Cage is making nude models of her. Not a good time to be this actress.

Well, she's about to be in X-Men: Days of Future Past, right? So...there's that.

Seriously? They put her head on a nude character model that was er..."Anatomically Correct" for a shower scene that didn't show any jiggly bits? WHY?! Why not make it like a doll if those "parts" weren't needed for the game? It takes someone going full retard to put that into a game's files and not expect someone to find it.

Was Beyond Two Souls any good? If so she could just write it off as art-sie nudity, that would proberly boost her career... or maybe people will just not give a shit as you can find any celebrity's face stapled onto a 3D model these days.

Gearhead mk2:
While I admit it took a lotta courage to actually put a fully-nude character model in a AAA game and I will give them credit for covering it up and not making a big deal of it... yeah, unless Ellen Page consented to being rendered au naturel and inevitably being exposed when people started looking in the files, I think Page and Cage should sit down and have a talk.

Also... how old is Ellen's character in that game? Just looking at that mugshot, she looks like a teenager.

I have no idea. Then again, I just googled and Ellen Page is in fact twenty six years old, and she still looks like a teenager.

No, I didn't google the nude shots, goddammit.

In any case, if Ellen page consented to being depicted naked, whether it is her body or not, then it's kinda a non issue. Sure, I don't condone useless nudity scenes (I haven't played the game, so I've no idea what the context is) but if the actress gave permission, this is more of something to debate in relation to the game itself and its quality rather than any reason for moral outrage.

But the fact that sony called it "damaging" makes me suspect that such permission wasn't given. And that's bad. Very bad.

What did she expect? Rule 34 is a thing for a reason, and anyone who has been on the internet long enough should know that. Yeah it's pretty fucked up, but it's the run of the mill kind of fucked up that the internet runs on. Just be glad it isn't anything more than the tame deal that they have here. I gotta say though, it's interesting to hear that more devs are doing anatomically correct models in big AAA games, even if those assets aren't going to be used for anything more than eye candy and physics simulation. You can't stick with Barbies and GI Joes forever if you want to shoot for perfect realism, though I bet they're going to be hiring a lot more perverts if that is the case.

thaluikhain:
Why would you render her bits if you aren't going to show them? Wouldn't it have been much easier to make her look like a Barbie doll?

Because polygons is emotions, and jiggly bits is polygons.

Seriously though? I dunno. Probably for the sake of "realism", though in a tasteless manner. Character modeling is getting to be a pretty intensive field these days, and some people I've run into do it just for the sake of doing it, even if they're not doing that shit for a thing focused on the jiggly bits. Some say it helps with "cloth physics simulation" or some BS.

thaluikhain:
Why would you render her bits if you aren't going to show them?

Probably stock model. Not really an excuse - this stuff always happens.

CardinalPiggles:
Ellen Page's reputation is utterly ruined, she'll have to pick work in a strip club... or worse. /sarcasm

Seriously though I've been on the internet long enough to know that there are nude or pornographic pictures of a great deal of celebrities, and judging by what people have described of the picture it's not a big deal. It's not pornographic and distasteful, it's just her character taking a shower.

Ah.. but the thing is.

These pictures where not made by big reputable companies like sony.

Someone in the Dev team actually took his time to animate a full nude body with all naughty bits included and put it into the game.

What happened here is more akin to making a movie with a rather tame scene where the actor is shown nude behind not see through glass.

And in the directors cut suddenly the glass is see through and you can see every little juicy detal.. without anyone asking the actor if he was okay with that.

I remember hearing they they did this with Madison in Heavy Rain they may have done it with Ethan as well. Of course when you're doing it with a character modeled on a real actress it becomes fucking creepy. I wonder if David Cage keeps the nude renders in his home.

Why do people care about a few virtual nudes? Internet is probably full of fake photoshoped images of Ellen Page having kinky sex with god knows who and what.

EDIT: Yep, it's all there.

an annoyed writer:
What did she expect? Rule 34 is a thing for a reason, and anyone who has been on the internet long enough should know that. Yeah it's pretty fucked up, but it's the run of the mill kind of fucked up that the internet runs on. Just be glad it isn't anything more than the tame deal that they have here. I gotta say though, it's interesting to hear that more devs are doing anatomically correct models in big AAA games, even if those assets aren't going to be used for anything more than eye candy and physics simulation. You can't stick with Barbies and GI Joes forever if you want to shoot for perfect realism, though I bet they're going to be hiring a lot more perverts if that is the case.

The difference here is that it wasn't just the fans creating a nude model, or artwork. That is expected and most likely already existed (I am not venturing to find out). The difference here is that these models were in the GAME. Someone at Like take, the Sims for example. You take away the pixelation around the Sim's naughty bits, and you will find they don't have naughty bits.

Someone at Quantic Dreams created a nude model of Ellen Page, they were PAID by the company to spend time creating this model. Someone most likely approved these files to be put in the game for a shower scene that didn't actually include Ellen Page's naughty bits. They didn't need to make anything extra on her model for that scene, since (by the sound of it) those parts were intentionally left out of the shot.

I felt a microscopic amount of sympathy for her at first. Then I was reminded that she got mad at Naughty Dog for making a character that looked a little bit like her and yeah, I suddenly don't care.

Who is Ellen Page and why should I care if her face has been photoshopped onto some CGI body?

Maybe they can patch the nude model to give her horrific scars over all the bits of her body that we shouldn't be seeing. Maybe then she'll be happy?

Brilliant move on Sony's part. Fake outrage at customers uncovering "hidden" nudity drums up free press while said nudity prevents customers from selling the title back to Gamestop.

Well played, Sony. Well played.

(Captcha: history repeats itself)

tits in MY GAME? OUTRAGEOUS!

they should think of the children and get us more ripped out extremeties and disemboweled bodies functioning as curtains!

and whoever puts nipples on models makes this wishing in secrecy that someone will see it. even when its only the guy that put them there in the first place...

Can't deny, it's rather creepy this has surfaced, but i guess Sony just ensured the game sold about few thousand copies.

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