Call of Duty: Ghosts Meant To End Modern Warfare Franchise

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Call of Duty: Ghosts Meant To End Modern Warfare Franchise

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Infinity Ward Community Manager Tina Palacios says the studio wants to end the Modern Warfare franchise with Call of Duty: Ghosts, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it's over.

As the fable says, when you have a goose that lays golden eggs, it's generally not smart to mess with it. And there are few geese that poop the glitter as reliably as the Call of Duty franchise, specifically the Modern Warfare part of it, which makes Palacios' comments about the future of the series just a wee bit baffling.

"With the storyline, we knew that we wanted to end the Modern Warfare franchise, and we wanted to go in a new direction," she told OXM.

Of course, ending the Modern Warfare franchise is kind of like killing Superman, and Palacios unsurprisingly hedged her bets with a tried-and-true qualifier. "I can say that our focus and only focus is on Ghosts right now as it is, and we have no other plans at this time," she added. She also noted, in case you missed it, that the Ghosts in Ghosts are heavily inspired by Ghost from Modern Warfare 2.

"It made sense for these soldiers we have in Ghosts who want to hide their identities would have the same masks and face paint. I think it would be safe for me to say that just knowing the characters from our previous games didn't have a backstory, that's what really pushed us forward," she said. "We thought we need to really establish that."

Palacios' comment would seem to contradict the year-old rumor that Modern Warfare 4 is already in the works, but the question of what an "end" to the series actually means is wide open. Real closure is a possibility but given Activision's history, I'm inclined to think it's probably something a little closer to Superman.

Source: OXM

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What's next, Call of Duty: Moderner Warfare? Somehow I don't see them doing anything new considering how much money the franchise rakes in with little to no innovation. Why change your money making formula when rabid fans are eager to throw their money at you regardless as what you make? Just don't change the reload times.

I think there's some subtext going on. It sounds something like,

"Help. Us."

CriticalMiss:
What's next, Call of Duty: Moderner Warfare? Somehow I don't see them doing anything new considering how much money the franchise rakes in with little to no innovation. Why change your money making formula when rabid fans are eager to throw their money at you regardless as what you make? Just don't change the reload times.

Isn't one of the main complaints about CoD that it doesn't innovate?
If anything, I'm glad Infinity Ward is at least trying to freshen things up.

I get the feeling that Infinity Ward is dying to work on something, anything other than Call of Duty, like how Bungie was sick of doing Halo.

Fat chance, though; I'm fairly certain that Activision forces their dev companies to sign over their human souls.

It's funny, Activision initially didn't want them to jump from WW2 to Modern times since WW2 was making cash. But they did and now Modern Warfare is a huge money maker. And now they don't want them to jump to anything else because it's a huge money maker, even though the previous jump resulted in fat stacks of cash.

But I'm betting they'll eventually jump into the future.

From that poster looks more like they want to make Call of Duty: Knights of the Old Republic.

Brian Tams:
I get the feeling that Infinity Ward is dying to work on something, anything other than Call of Duty, like how Bungie was sick of doing Halo.

And then they just went and made Halo again without Master Chief and called it Destiny.

MCerberus:
I think there's some subtext going on. It sounds something like,

"Help. Us."

Yeah, I agree, but I think the subtext is more along the lines of:

"Help Us. We know Call of Duty is a sinking Ship. We don't know what to do once the well dries up. We're going to try to prepare for this, but in the mean time, we need you to buy this game."

CriticalMiss:
What's next, Call of Duty: Moderner Warfare? Somehow I don't see them doing anything new considering how much money the franchise rakes in with little to no innovation. Why change your money making formula when rabid fans are eager to throw their money at you regardless as what you make? Just don't change the reload times.

Well future warfare seems to be popular nowadays, so I bet on that ;)

I haven't been keeping up with Ghosts, but I kinda saw it as a new trilogy or something. Modern Warfare seemed to wrap up the story nicely, considering pretty much everyone involved was riddled with bullets, strangulated or set on fire by the end of the game. I'm not quite sure where they could really go without pulling a bullshit retcon... not that that's unlikely or that I really care, mind. I kinda hope that everyone who's dead stays dead though, because the goddamned "He just looked dead" moment is one of my pet peeves to story telling, and nearly every game does it.

Regardless, this isn't bad news. The series is pretty enjoyable so far, but it's been showing its cracks for a little while now. I'd like to see what else they can do.

Andy Chalk:
Palacios' comment would seem to contradict the year-old rumor that Modern Warfare 4 is already in the works, but the question of what an "end" to the series actually means is wide open.

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 4: Post-Modern Warfare.

I'm calling it now. How much longer could they push future tech in a 'modern' game and get away with it?

DVS BSTrD:
From that poster looks more like they want to make Call of Duty: Knights of the Old Republic.

Brian Tams:
I get the feeling that Infinity Ward is dying to work on something, anything other than Call of Duty, like how Bungie was sick of doing Halo.

And then they just went and made Halo again without Master Chief and called it Destiny.

Because we should definitely condemn a game before the fucking thing has even had a chance to come out, right? That would be just silly.

The Modern Warfare franchise has been one hell of a ride.

Even though World at War was my personal favourite (A Treyarch developed game, I know), Infinity Ward has always provided a consistently enjoyable experience for me.

CriticalMiss:
What's next, Call of Duty: Moderner Warfare?

Call of Duty: Future Warfare
Call of Duty: 1942
Call of Duty: Beige Ops
Call of Duty: Totally not a Quake mod
Call of Doggy: Modern paw fair
Call of Warcraft: World of Duty
Call of Starcraft
Call of Duty: Holy shit everyone bought Titanfall and we're getting shuttered in the new year

Mr.Mattress:
"Help Us. We know Call of Duty is a sinking Ship. We don't know what to do once the well dries up. We're going to try to prepare for this, but in the mean time, we need you to buy this game."

It's a sinking ship? As far as I was aware next year's 13 year olds will be just as happy to shoot each other in the face as last year's 13 year olds. I mean, I know there are people who dislike the series, but as far as I know the target demographic is still just as happy with it as they've always been.

... They do know that no one plays the singleplayer, right? Singleplayer fans don't play it because it sucks, and hardcore CoD fans only care about the multiplayer.

Mr.Mattress:

MCerberus:
I think there's some subtext going on. It sounds something like,

"Help. Us."

Yeah, I agree, but I think the subtext is more along the lines of:

"Help Us. We know Call of Duty is a sinking Ship. We don't know what to do once the well dries up. We're going to try to prepare for this, but in the mean time, we need you to buy this game."

It's a shame. I'd hate to be Infinity Ward, being people forced to literally do nothing but create the same game over and over again. It must be boring as hell.

Falterfire:

It's a sinking ship? As far as I was aware next year's 13 year olds will be just as happy to shoot each other in the face as last year's 13 year olds. I mean, I know there are people who dislike the series, but as far as I know the target demographic is still just as happy with it as they've always been.

It is if you believe the fact that BLOPS II sold 5 Million less then the game Before it (Which I believe was Modern Warfare 3) is basically a sign that the series is in danger. Which Is what I believe.

ThunderCavalier:

It's a shame. I'd hate to be Infinity Ward, being people forced to literally do nothing but create the same game over and over again. It must be boring as hell.

I imagine it must be like Bill Murray's Groundhog Day in those offices.
At least it's a steady paycheck...or, well, at least when Activision isn't engaging in legal warfare with your company execs over insane bonus revenue.

TKretts3:
... They do know that no one plays the singleplayer, right? Singleplayer fans don't play it because it sucks, and hardcore CoD fans only care about the multiplayer.

...You do know you have no idea what you are talking about, right?

Myself and all of my friends bought Call of duty Modern Warfare 2 and 3 as well as blackops 1 and 2 JUST for the singleplayer. The online community can be rather shite so we dont bother with it.

The single player story was on the short side, but it was fairly good.

fix-the-spade:

CriticalMiss:
What's next, Call of Duty: Moderner Warfare?

Call of Duty: Future Warfare
Call of Duty: 1942
Call of Duty: Beige Ops
Call of Duty: Totally not a Quake mod
Call of Doggy: Modern paw fair
Call of Warcraft: World of Duty
Call of Starcraft
Call of Duty: Holy shit everyone bought Titanfall and we're getting shuttered in the new year

Nope, we're going back, way way back.

Next year we will be treated to

Call of Duty Neanderthal Warfare

image

Flint spears are OP, buff pointy stick plz

Atmos Duality:

ThunderCavalier:

It's a shame. I'd hate to be Infinity Ward, being people forced to literally do nothing but create the same game over and over again. It must be boring as hell.

I imagine it must be like Bill Murray's Groundhog Day in those offices.
At least it's a steady paycheck...or, well, at least when Activision isn't engaging in legal warfare with your company execs over insane bonus revenue.

There is the secret. Their next project...

Call of Credit: Legal Warfare

YOU WERE ON THE IN THE WHOLE TIME.

OT:
Yeah, well, they should! I liked the CoD games, and largely not because of the multiplayer. It'd be nice to see what they can do with a lengthier campaign and some more development time.

I'm still amazed they made a whole game based around one random character in MW2. Yeah if I recall, "Ghost" was shot in the head and burned up, if there is something about him surviving that, that shows some kind of desperation for plot.

He wasn't even that compelling. >.<

Brian Tams:
I get the feeling that Infinity Ward is dying to work on something, anything other than Call of Duty, like how Bungie was sick of doing Halo.

I think that already happened and it's called Titanfall, apparently before the shitstorm kicked off Infinity Ward pitched Titanfall to Activision, who seemingly decided that a new franchise from the developers who had been right about every decision they ever made wasn't what they wanted.

Oddly, a similar thing happened with Bungie pitching Destiny to Microsoft, there are Destiny references in Halo:ODST and Microsoft had first dibs on it, but apparently big publishers are really stupid.

Hero in a half shell:
Next year we will be treated to

Call of Duty Neanderthal Warfare

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Murmurrffs Urr Urgh Peee. Nuuurrrghff Murmurrffs

Atmos Duality:
At least it's a steady paycheck...or, well, at least when Activision isn't engaging in legal warfare with your company execs over insane bonus revenue.

Witth the big hitters gone I bet it's a terrible paycheck. Activision offered big bonuses before and went to insane (and ultimately futile) lengths to avoid paying, now with the people who are left and the new hires I'd bet they just get a tiny or no bonus at all.

fix-the-spade:

Atmos Duality:
At least it's a steady paycheck...or, well, at least when Activision isn't engaging in legal warfare with your company execs over insane bonus revenue.

Witth the big hitters gone I bet it's a terrible paycheck. Activision offered big bonuses before and went to insane (and ultimately futile) lengths to avoid paying, now with the people who are left and the new hires I'd bet they just get a tiny or no bonus at all.

I can believe that, and imagine new hires were offered better base pay than their predecessors to get them on task immediately, but much weaker rates for bonuses to avoid repeating that ugly scandal again.

Besides, I wasn't being completely serious here; it was more about taking a potshot at Activision than anything.

Ferisar:

There is the secret. Their next project...

Call of Credit: Legal Warfare

YOU WERE ON THE IN THE WHOLE TIME.

I know nothin', Your Honor.

TKretts3:
... They do know that no one plays the singleplayer, right? Singleplayer fans don't play it because it sucks, and hardcore CoD fans only care about the multiplayer.

How utterly strange.

I buy the games primarily for the singleplayer. Yet I enjoy the singleplayer campaign immensely.

The multiplayer is an added bonus to keep me busy for a good while once the singleplayer campaign is finished. Yet I also happen to enjoy that immensely as well.

Call of Duty is just one of the many, many types of games that I enjoy. According to your logic, I must be some sort of gaming anomaly.

I play Call of Duty solely for the singleplayer, biggest reason I never really got the hate for the series until I tried the multiplayer. And then I realized that multiplayer shooters are just not my thing.

I like the story in call of duty though. Black Ops II storyline was interesting enough too bad it was rather short. I never bought a CoD game though, only rent, so I guess I couldn't say it's compelling enough for one to buy the game just for it.

Hero in a half shell:

fix-the-spade:

CriticalMiss:
What's next, Call of Duty: Moderner Warfare?

Call of Duty: Future Warfare
Call of Duty: 1942
Call of Duty: Beige Ops
Call of Duty: Totally not a Quake mod
Call of Doggy: Modern paw fair
Call of Warcraft: World of Duty
Call of Starcraft
Call of Duty: Holy shit everyone bought Titanfall and we're getting shuttered in the new year

Nope, we're going back, way way back.

Next year we will be treated to

Call of Duty Neanderthal Warfare

image

Flint spears are OP, buff pointy stick plz

You guys forgot Call of Duty: Just Give Us Your Money Already and Call of Duty: We Stopped Caring Five Games Ago.

OT: In all seriousness I like the CoD games, but I don't see where they can go as far as settings and such go in any future games without either BSing it or... no, that's pretty much it, they'd totally have to pull something out of their ass to make new games.

Brian Tams:
I get the feeling that Infinity Ward is dying to work on something, anything other than Call of Duty, like how Bungie was sick of doing Halo.

Fat chance, though; I'm fairly certain that Activision forces their dev companies to sign over their human souls.

Actually, that's part of the reason that the whole IW firing scandal occurred. IW wanted to do something else and apparently activision made them make MW2, and promised them huge bonuses if MW2 made tons of cash. Then things got ugly.

Ruisu:
I play Call of Duty solely for the singleplayer, biggest reason I never really got the hate for the series until I tried the multiplayer. And then I realized that multiplayer shooters are just not my thing.

I like the story in call of duty though. Black Ops II storyline was interesting enough too bad it was rather short. I never bought a CoD game though, only rent, so I guess I couldn't say it's compelling enough for one to buy the game just for it.

I actually kind of liked the ways that BO2 changed the genre a little. Both the fact they tried to give the villian some motivation and personality and tried to make him sympathetic, while also moving to cyberpunk and adding the strike ops missions. I also liked the fact that little things in almost every mission changed the storyline.

Sure, the strike op missions had awful execution but at least it was a new and interesting concept for the series.

TKretts3:
... They do know that no one plays the singleplayer, right? Singleplayer fans don't play it because it sucks, and hardcore CoD fans only care about the multiplayer.

Want to discuss the single player campaigns of any of the COD games? I'm game if you are. Or do you just think that because you don't play the single player that nobody does?

Simple Bluff:
I haven't been keeping up with Ghosts, but I kinda saw it as a new trilogy or something. Modern Warfare seemed to wrap up the story nicely, considering pretty much everyone involved was riddled with bullets, strangulated or set on fire by the end of the game. I'm not quite sure where they could really go without pulling a bullshit retcon... not that that's unlikely or that I really care, mind. I kinda hope that everyone who's dead stays dead though, because the goddamned "He just looked dead" moment is one of my pet peeves to story telling, and nearly every game does it.

Regardless, this isn't bad news. The series is pretty enjoyable so far, but it's been showing its cracks for a little while now. I'd like to see what else they can do.

I was really hoping that ghosts was actually going to be an interquel for the MW series, covering the 5 years between MW1 and MW2 and showing:

-How Price ended up in a gulag
-Makarov's Rise to prominence(and maybe explaining just whose side was actually on in the series, because in MW2 and MW3 he seemed to work for and against the Russian government depending on the mission. Or maybe the writing was just shit).
-How the Ultra-nationalists took power in Russia.
-All the cool shit TF 141 was apparently doing before MW2 started.
-Perhaps retroactively explain some of the plot threads left over from MW2(We never did find out why the guy in the panic room was important).

I'm surprised no one from ubisoft have said anything about ghosts, because it is a bit close to ghost recon

CriticalMiss:
What's next, Call of Duty: Moderner Warfare? Somehow I don't see them doing anything new considering how much money the franchise rakes in with little to no innovation. Why change your money making formula when rabid fans are eager to throw their money at you regardless as what you make? Just don't change the reload times.

Future Warfare?

To be honest I hope Activision finally recieved planned brain transplantation and realized they have one awesome franchise they have not touched in last 10+years
Battlezone
But somehow I doubt they will make BZ3 :(

Call of duty: Rise of the dog and fish kingdom.

Why does that sound so much more awesome than I thought it did?

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