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EA Nukes Command & Conquer Sequel

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Electronic Arts abruptly cancels its unreleased Command & Conquer sequel.

Electronic Arts has pulled the plug on a Command & Conquer sequel that was scheduled for release this holiday season. The game, which was being developed by Victory Games, entered an alpha testing phase several months ago, and EA has not been pleased with the results.

"Your feedback from the alpha trial is clear: We are not making the game you want to play," reads a post on the official Command & Conquer website. "That is why, after much difficult deliberation, we have decided to cease production of this version of the game. Although we deeply respect the great work done by our talented team, ultimately it's about getting you the game you expect and deserve."

Unfortunately, this cancelation is going to be rough for the people at Victory Games. "This does mean that the Victory Games team will be disbanded," an EA representative told Game Informer. "Wherever possible, we are working to help these talented people find other opportunities with EA."

Command & Conquer has always been an important franchise for Electronic Arts, so I'm sure we'll eventually see another sequel. In fact, the publisher has "already begun looking at a number of alternatives to get the game back on track."

In the mean time, I may have to reinstall Windows 98, so I can replay Tiberian Sun.

Source: Victory Studios, Game Informer

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To me the C&C franchise died with the abomination that was C&C 4...

C&C 3 will forever, to me, be the best that the series achieved, with the original C&C game having the honor of IMO being the first modern RTS

(Dune 2 defined the genre, and I played that too back in the days, but C&C cemented it)

Well done EA, this is the best decision you could have made with this online F2P farce in a C&C skin.

Now you can stop pretending you know what we want better than we do and actually develop the proper C&C game we are waiting for.

they seem to be revaluating and changing a lot of their franchises from past customer opinion. they dropped permament online condition for the sims 4 due to what happened with simcity for example. sad these people lost their jobs though

So, EA's graveyard just got a new tenant.I wonder if they'll bury them next to Westwood.

At least they killed it because the fans did not like what they were doing with it.

webkilla:
To me the C&C franchise died with the abomination that was C&C 4...

C&C 3 will forever, to me, be the best that the series achieved, with the original C&C game having the honor of IMO being the first modern RTS

(Dune 2 defined the genre, and I played that too back in the days, but C&C cemented it)

Modern RTS, how does Civ work into this? Oh yeah, it's turn based.

Evil Smurf:

webkilla:
To me the C&C franchise died with the abomination that was C&C 4...

C&C 3 will forever, to me, be the best that the series achieved, with the original C&C game having the honor of IMO being the first modern RTS

(Dune 2 defined the genre, and I played that too back in the days, but C&C cemented it)

Modern RTS, how does Civ work into this?

Um, Civ(ilizatin) isn't a RTS(Real Time Strategy) game series. It's decisvely turn-based strategy.

Honestly I find it difficult to believe that they acted upon the feedback of the fans. There must be some amount of numbers and flowcharts that was involved in the decision. Unsatisfactory numbers that could easily be turned into good PR and all they had to sacrifice was aother studio.

Hope the laid-off workers get back on their feet soon.

Josh Engen:
In the mean time, I may have to reinstall Windows 98, so I can replay Tiberian Sun.

Im sure theres a mod that makes it compatible with Win7.

And even then i know it works fine on both XP and Vista.

Also since I didn't see it in the article. To make matter worse, today at EA they hired some jets to fly across the EA HQ in celebration of Battlefield 4.

EA: The only company that can cancel a beloved franchise because the fans didn't like microtransactions and then in the same day hire jets to fly over their HQ

Good, the game just looked bad after they butchered the GLA and tried to do the whole free to play thing with it.

And I have to appreciate EA starting to listen to customer feedback.

I wonder when they're going to stop trying to be serious with this series (maybe now, and they realized that they killed the series with Cain Space-Jesus and it's been running around Weekend and Berny's style). When was Generals good? when you had lasers, secret tunnels, nuclear powered tanks, and roflcopters filled with snipers that can eliminate an army by casually flying over it.

In Tiberian Sun, the least ridiculous units were the rocket-launching tron cycles and mechas. And here's an actual unit counter chain from RA2: An aircraft carrier was sunk by a submarine, which was sunk by a destroyer, which was eaten by a giant squid, which was blasted from sonic beams from trained attack dolphins.

Point is, they ripped out the soul of the series so it can appeal to imaginary people that weren't interested... like all of the EA failures. Welp I'm ranting, have a happy

Tiberian Sun, BEST C&C ever!!!! The game that got me into gaming, loved those live action Cinematics! FOR THE BROTHERHOOD!

Oh look a F2P(greed) Online C & C that wearing the mutilated corpse of its predecessor would not appeal to fans who knew ....

The only thing I liked was how the GLA was less Arab and more Freedom YOLO!

Still yeah perhaps EA should stick with what works and stop trying to ruin fanchises with this F2P Pay for all your bullets jumping through hoops nonsense.

The saddest part about this is that they could have saved a lot of time and money if they'd listened to feedback back when they announced it. The internet had a very strong response in general, and it wasn't positive, but EA apparently thought they knew what the fans of the series wanted more than the fans themselves.

Uhhhh... Yay?

I guess listening to feedback and not releasing things people don't want is better than not listening to feedback at all, but, y'know, there's plenty of room for actual improvement as well...

The missing .dll file issue should be by-passable by launching it as admin. Though that worked for the FD version (for those of you owning FD, the unofficial community patch is also highly recommended), have to dig up the old case to see if it works for the just TS version as well.

As to the matter at hand ... yeah, it was rather doomed from the start. Oh it had some nice concepts there but enough to tip the scales.
There was quite a heated discussion on the C&C board about single vs multi, which might have contributed a bit as well, as some of the pro-multi, 2 or 3 people to be precise, were rather vitriolic toward the single player crowd and managed to stir up a lot of otherwise quiet people.

"Terminate protocols initiated, proceeding with final sweep. Prepare for decimation, for you are not worthy of assimilation. By the way ... missile launch detected."

Josh Engen:

In the mean time, I may have to reinstall Windows 98, so I can replay Tiberian Sun.

It works fine under Windows 7. I have it installed right now.

fi6eka:
So, EA's graveyard just got a new tenant.I wonder if they'll bury them next to Westwood.

That is the nature of the business. When your job description involves tapdancing in a minefield, you can't bitch when someone gets blown up.

Shaidz:
Tiberian Sun, BEST C&C ever!!!! The game that got me into gaming, loved those live action Cinematics! FOR THE BROTHERHOOD!

You know, the only good thing that came from Command and Conquer 4 was that I got a signed picture of Joe Kucan with my preorder.

It is one of my most valued possessions as Command and Conquer was the game that got me into PC gaming.

CrossLOPER:

Josh Engen:

In the mean time, I may have to reinstall Windows 98, so I can replay Tiberian Sun.

It works fine under Windows 7. I have it installed right now.

That's good to know, in a very weird bit of timing I picked up the C&C ultimate collection at Walmart the other day for $20 and was worried about compatibility. I'm planning to play through C&C3 again but I'm not sure where I should go from there. This pack came with literally every game and expansion, can anyone make any recomendations of which games might be the better ones?

OT: Shame about this, I was just looking forward to more C&C after loving C&C3 and RA3 back when I was in middle school. As a RTS fan I'm just dying for something that's not Starcraft2 to be popular again. I didn't like where the game was heading but I really hope the assests they came up with can be re-made into a proper game instead of just being lost forever.

It's funny, I was invited to the Alpha and I just completely ignored the invitation. Glad I didn't waste the time, I doubt it would have been any good. If anything they should just go with their original plan. Make a proper Generals sequel without the F2P bullshit. I

That is good news... Without the single player campaign that game wasnt going anywere, there was no way to get to learn how the game work without getting dirrectelly in the multilayer... it's what a rought curve.
Me i did play one game of the alpha... was a pain in the A** i had no clue how the the construction needed to be done, how the updates worked, what each building was used for...

More studios to feed EA! EA HUNGRY!!!

The series died with C&C4 and I am happy it did. In the hands of EA this would have been twisted and deformed until it resembled nothing of the old series. I prefer them making a misstep with C&C4, falling down the stairs and breaking the series' neck than have them continue with the casualization, the horrible pandering and all out gutting of the C&C name.

We say Rest In Peace for a reason. Nobody can touch you when your dead. Be at ease C&C, your legacy lives on.

My initial reaction to this:

But then I think it's better it be cancelled than live through another shitty C&C game.

Even though I really do miss this series, I'm happy to let it stay dead for a while.

Evil Smurf:
At least they killed it because the fans did not like what they were doing with it.

webkilla:
To me the C&C franchise died with the abomination that was C&C 4...

C&C 3 will forever, to me, be the best that the series achieved, with the original C&C game having the honor of IMO being the first modern RTS

(Dune 2 defined the genre, and I played that too back in the days, but C&C cemented it)

Modern RTS, how does Civ work into this? Oh yeah, it's turn based.

1) True - plus that browser-game version they'd cooked up was a horror as well

2) Civ games are turnbased & I'd consider them a genre on to themselves... I'd call the genre "civ games"

To everyone here who thinks this is the end of it, read the damn article again. They are already looking for another way to get this game back on track, which means its still going to be released at some point, so we are still gonna get this shitty game.

It wouldn't be EA if they actually learned something now would it? This is probably just a way to get rid of the bad reputation this game has acquired so far. Not that its going to work.

RIP Westwood. Gone but not forgotten. It's times like this you're missed the most :-)

kajinking:

That's good to know, in a very weird bit of timing I picked up the C&C ultimate collection at Walmart the other day for $20 and was worried about compatibility. I'm planning to play through C&C3 again but I'm not sure where I should go from there. This pack came with literally every game and expansion, can anyone make any recomendations of which games might be the better ones?

Red Alert 2 and Tiberian Sun are probably the best in the franchise. They're pretty similar to each other, it's mostly up to you whether you prefer the post-apocalyptic hypertech atmosphere of the Tiberium series, or the tongue-in-cheek feel of Red Alert.

But in general, I would recommend choosing one series and playing it from the beginning. As a handy little guide:

1) The Tiberium series starts off as a modern warfare RTS. It struggles with the general feel though, as in Tiberian Sun it dives head on into post-apocalyptic SF, then goes back to near future in C&C3, and then back to post-apo in the abomination that is C&C4 (which is explainable through the "blue, yellow and red zones" in the lore, but feels like setting whiplash). C&C 1-3 games are all pretty decent RTS offerings, can be challenging at times, but the trilogy never sacrifices gameplay for the sake of spectacle. It also has a consistent (if occasionally ridiculous) story throughout all games.

2) Red Alert 1 was very similar to Tiberian Dawn in terms of gameplay, but went more for schizo tech and comedic touches. The gameplay to atmosphere ratio was perfect in RA2 (good gameplay, with a more comedic feel to the game), but then they decided to go bonkers with RA3, which threw away any attempts at subtlety with its "LOOK ITS SOMETHING MENTIONED ON THE INTERNET, LAUGH!!!" humour, switched female characters from "eye candy" to "spank material" and topped it off with making the game painfully easy. The time travel plot is somewhat consistent if you read it, but in practice you end up with three free-standing game stories. The series has, in my opinion, the best overall atmosphere, but suffers from relatively low difficulty.

3) Generals is... not something I could get into. For me, no cheesy B-movie briefings = not a C&C game. But I know the game (and its expansion) are praised for tactical depth, so I presume that out of the three series, Generals is your choice if you're in it for the gameplay, not atmosphere.

4) Renegade is a painfully mediocre shooter where you play as a GDI commando during the events of Tiberian Dawn. You won't miss anything by ignoring it.

Hope that helps!

RyQ_TMC:

kajinking:

That's good to know, in a very weird bit of timing I picked up the C&C ultimate collection at Walmart the other day for $20 and was worried about compatibility. I'm planning to play through C&C3 again but I'm not sure where I should go from there. This pack came with literally every game and expansion, can anyone make any recomendations of which games might be the better ones?

Red Alert 2 and Tiberian Sun are probably the best in the franchise. They're pretty similar to each other, it's mostly up to you whether you prefer the post-apocalyptic hypertech atmosphere of the Tiberium series, or the tongue-in-cheek feel of Red Alert.

But in general, I would recommend choosing one series and playing it from the beginning. As a handy little guide:

1) The Tiberium series starts off as a modern warfare RTS. It struggles with the general feel though, as in Tiberian Sun it dives head on into post-apocalyptic SF, then goes back to near future in C&C3, and then back to post-apo in the abomination that is C&C4 (which is explainable through the "blue, yellow and red zones" in the lore, but feels like setting whiplash). C&C 1-3 games are all pretty decent RTS offerings, can be challenging at times, but the trilogy never sacrifices gameplay for the sake of spectacle. It also has a consistent (if occasionally ridiculous) story throughout all games.

2) Red Alert 1 was very similar to Tiberian Dawn in terms of gameplay, but went more for schizo tech and comedic touches. The gameplay to atmosphere ratio was perfect in RA2 (good gameplay, with a more comedic feel to the game), but then they decided to go bonkers with RA3, which threw away any attempts at subtlety with its "LOOK ITS SOMETHING MENTIONED ON THE INTERNET, LAUGH!!!" humour, switched female characters from "eye candy" to "spank material" and topped it off with making the game painfully easy. The time travel plot is somewhat consistent if you read it, but in practice you end up with three free-standing game stories. The series has, in my opinion, the best overall atmosphere, but suffers from relatively low difficulty.

3) Generals is... not something I could get into. For me, no cheesy B-movie briefings = not a C&C game. But I know the game (and its expansion) are praised for tactical depth, so I presume that out of the three series, Generals is your choice if you're in it for the gameplay, not atmosphere.

4) Renegade is a painfully mediocre shooter where you play as a GDI commando during the events of Tiberian Dawn. You won't miss anything by ignoring it.

Hope that helps!

I'd like to add something regarding generals. It is a fairly fun and challenging RTS, the "story" is filled with tongue-in-cheek humor and the factions are distinct and nothing to complain about. But as you said, it is no Command & Conquer game. Still worth the time for both the campaign and multiplayer in my opinion.

mirage202:
Well done EA, this is the best decision you could have made with this online F2P farce in a C&C skin.

Now you can stop pretending you know what we want better than we do and actually develop the proper C&C game we are waiting for.

Indeed on both points, it's sad that the studio is being disbanded but it was not a C&C game, I don't get why they didn't call it something else since as a new IP it might have had a chance. Hopefully this means EA will get back to their roots :-)

Desert Punk:

Shaidz:
Tiberian Sun, BEST C&C ever!!!! The game that got me into gaming, loved those live action Cinematics! FOR THE BROTHERHOOD!

You know, the only good thing that came from Command and Conquer 4 was that I got a signed picture of Joe Kucan with my preorder.

It is one of my most valued possessions as Command and Conquer was the game that got me into PC gaming.

I was in the C&C4 Beta (or alpha, whatever) and honestly the only reason I got C&C4 was to pre-order for that signed photo of Joe, if that wasn't apart of the package I would have never gotten the game lol.

Josh Engen:

Command & Conquer has always been an important franchise for Electronic Arts

Gtfo, it was Westwoods baby until EA got their grubby little fingers on it and ruined the fuck out of it.
It's only as big as it is because Westwood knew what they were doing and managed to build a huge fanbase, EA takes a free ride on the brand name alone.

Desert Punk:

Shaidz:
Tiberian Sun, BEST C&C ever!!!! The game that got me into gaming, loved those live action Cinematics! FOR THE BROTHERHOOD!

You know, the only good thing that came from Command and Conquer 4 was that I got a signed picture of Joe Kucan with my preorder.

It is one of my most valued possessions as Command and Conquer was the game that got me into PC gaming.

C&C Tiberian Sun and its expansion Firestorm were one of the most memorable, dark and desperate strategy games I have ever had the honor of playing. The atmosphere was intense, Tiberium was everywhere and you can really feel the world dying.
C&C 3 was so colorful, mild and more casual compared to Tiberian Sun. Westwood will forever be remembered.

I still have my unopened Tiberian Sun Platinum Edition PC Game complete with Soundtrack CD and Pewter figurine (NOD Soldier). I treasure it as a relic of the good old days when we had studios that employed craftsmen, artisans and blacksmiths that cared so much about their work, nowadays most studios are populated by unwilling interns who don't even QA their work (TW:Rome 2).

Peace Through Power!

I honestly can't fathom what must go on at EA board meetings.

"Hey, let's buy out this RTS developer with a slew of solid games already out."

"Great idea!"

"Instead of letting them make the RTS games they know and love, let's force them onto several side projects and genres hardly related to RTS and slap the C&C label on it!"

"Great idea!"

"Wow, those games sucked and didn't sell very well. Time to defund the entire company and fire every developer!"

"Great idea!"

*a decade later*

"Hm... I've got an idea for a really shitty product guaranteed to steal as much money as possible from players without being the least bit good. I can't decide how to slap them with my cock the hardest though. Any suggestions?"

"Uh... call it command and conquer!"

"GREAT IDEA!"

As someone who was played the game, I can say it wasn't that bad. I enjoyed many features that it offered and other then the "pay to win" generals, the free ones were fun. So I'm a little bummed to see it go. Clearly EA should have just kept the original idea and made Generals 2 and not a F2p game as it didn't work with End of Nations it wasn't going to work with C&C

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