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Fallout 4 Trademarked By Bethesda

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Bethesda recently trademarked Fallout 4 in Europe, giving credibility to the rumors that the game may soon be announced.

We all know that Bethesda is probably working on Fallout 4, but it may be closer than we think. Earlier in the week, we saw a mysterious website surface, seemingly teasing a new Fallout game with a countdown timer. Adding credibility to those rumors, Bethesda has recently trademarked the Fallout 4 name in Europe.

Normally, this would be a fairly inconsequential thing, but it's occurrence just after that website popped up has set of a couple of alarm bells. The Spike VGX are just around the corner, and considering Bethesda hasn't been working on Skyrim since last April, as well as the website's countdown ending in December, it seems like everything is sliding into place.

The last time we heard about the studio's "new project," they said it was "looking awesome," but failed to give any kind of timeframe on when we may see it (or even when we may find out what kind of game it is).

Either way, it looks like Fallout fans can be cautiously optimistic about this one. Fallout: New Vegas, the last Fallout game, was released back in 2010, and was outsourced to Obsidian Entertainment instead of the core Bethesda team.

Source: Destructoid

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Would have loved it to have been outsourced to Obsidian again, New Vegas was wonderful and the moral choices really made you think! But that's only my preference, I love Fallout 3 as well.... just not as much!

Edited to try and stop flame war but you know.....
War, war never changes

Everyone prepare for a terrible story, lifeless/soulless characters and an ending that doesn't change depending on your actions! Because that's exactly what's expected of Bethesda today...

X_X Fallout 4 might just suck.

Considering how good Fallout 3, the last Fallout made by Bethesda, I have high hopes for Fo4. My main curiosity for this is where the game will take place. I think it would be really nifty if the map, or at least part of it, had an area really dense with skyscrapers. I've always wondered how a nuclear wasteland would be in a big urban metropolis.

CharrHearted:
an ending that doesn't change depending on your actions!

... And that's a bad thing?

CharrHearted:
Everyone prepare for a terrible story, lifeless/soulless characters and an ending that doesn't change depending on your actions! Because that's exactly what's expected of Bethesda today...

X_X Fallout 4 might just suck.

You're right, Skyrim and Fallout 3 fucking SUCKED, and I sunk over a hundred hours into both of them just to make sure they SUCKED in every facet of their amazing, huge, immersive worlds!

Steven Bogos:

CharrHearted:
Everyone prepare for a terrible story, lifeless/soulless characters and an ending that doesn't change depending on your actions! Because that's exactly what's expected of Bethesda today...

X_X Fallout 4 might just suck.

You're right, Skyrim and Fallout 3 fucking SUCKED, and I sunk over a hundred hours into both of them just to make sure they SUCKED in every facet of their amazing, huge, immersive worlds!

Lets not start a flame thread, mentlegen.

If you want to discuss about it, hand me a PM.

It has been mentioned already, but bugs aside, I think a lot of people would be happy for it to be outsourced to Obsidian again. While I preferred the map of Fallout 3, most of the changes introduced in New Vegas were for the better by far, especially in the story/character department.

Hopefully Bethesda will simply improve on that, rather than simply copy the basics of Fallout 3.

I very much hope it is announced for next year, Fallout is one of my favourite series and if it does come out soon, I will have enough games to justify getting a new computer.

TKretts3:
Considering how good Fallout 3, the last Fallout made by Bethesda, I have high hopes for Fo4. My main curiosity for this is where the game will take place. I think it would be really nifty if the map, or at least part of it, had an area really dense with skyscrapers. I've always wondered how a nuclear wasteland would be in a big urban metropolis.

CharrHearted:
an ending that doesn't change depending on your actions!

... And that's a bad thing?

Well multiple endings are great to have, if you want to follow your own ideals, instead of a stock single ending from an anticlimatic horrible "final boss" (Looking at you, skyrim)

(If you wanna discuss further, like i said before, PM'S)

I've loved everything Fallout since the first game. Ask me to choose which is my favourite the answer is : I can't, and I don't want to.

For all the flaws in every game, I've always loved the setting and had a ridiculous amount of fun in every iteration (and modding the everloving bejesus out of the last 2). If Fallout 4 is just around the corner, all I can really say is: bring it on, I'm ready for more.

I'll probably wait for the one after that unless Bethesda have somehow managed to learn how to do story. I have Wasteland 2 and Torment coming, the wait won't be hard.

putowtin:
Would have loved it to have been outsourced to Obsidian again

For one of the numbered titles? No way Bethesda would let that go to anyone but their own development division (Bethesda Games Studios). As far as they're concerned that would be like letting an external developer do a major TES game. Best hope for fans of Obsidian flavoured Fallout is that once FO4 is released and the BGS crew switch over to TES development that Bethesda Softworks will greenlight another non-numbered Fallout title and contract Obsidian to develope it.

Meh... I'll wait and see before getting excited about this. I doubt I would enjoy it better than F:NV.

putowtin:
Would have loved it to have been outsourced to Obsidian again

So would I, but Obsidian was basically shafted and cheated by Zenimax out of their justly deserved royalties, and I doubt they would want to have anything to do with each other ever again. That was a shitty move on Zenimax part, considering that NV sold better than F3.

Yay~ More Fallout is potentially on the way

Can't we stop the FO3 vs FO:NV argument already?

No? Ok...

What I want for the next Fallout is to have a combination of FO3 and FO:NV so both sides can stop bitching and semi enjoy the game.

My big issue with fallout three was the charecter progression. There was no effort at all to balance any of the perks against one another, so you had 3 or 4 that were mandatory/overpowered and almost all of the rest of them were borderline useless. Same thing with the skills. Energy weapons and power armor so vastly outclassed everything else it was rediculous. There needs to be some kind of drawback to them if their going to be so far off curve.

I would have hoped that it was being developed by Obsidian, but I will take all the Fallout I can get.

So long as it is a proper fallout, not some stupid offshoot that has little to do with Fallout that a number of people seem to want.

i will bet anything its based on skyrims engine and especially its scripting engine so expect a hell of a lot more bugs than in previous games and broken quests

its unlikely obsidian will be involved they have the southpark game comming up, project eternity and according to their site they have positions open for a MMORPG

I just hope it's not an MMO. Or a tablet game.

(I wonder when the industry started making think those two game types were a curse on all that is good.)

If it's developed by Bethesda and not obsidian... not interested... Fallout 3 wasnt a Fallout they missed the mark

walrusaurus:
My big issue with fallout three was the charecter progression. There was no effort at all to balance any of the perks against one another, so you had 3 or 4 that were mandatory/overpowered and almost all of the rest of them were borderline useless. Same thing with the skills. Energy weapons and power armor so vastly outclassed everything else it was rediculous. There needs to be some kind of drawback to them if their going to be so far off curve.

That's why we need to go back to F1/2 dice rolls, you may had power armor and all cool implants but that rat could still hit you critically in the eyes for 200 damage :P, never happened to me but once my lvl 23 char in miltary armor got instantly killed by a raider with a puny SMG O.O

TKretts3:
Considering how good Fallout 3, the last Fallout made by Bethesda, I have high hopes for Fo4. My main curiosity for this is where the game will take place. I think it would be really nifty if the map, or at least part of it, had an area really dense with skyscrapers. I've always wondered how a nuclear wasteland would be in a big urban metropolis.

CharrHearted:
an ending that doesn't change depending on your actions!

... And that's a bad thing?

Multiple ends were standard in Fallout.

Its like the elder scrolls without an elder scroll, a huge world ending prophecy, the empire, or a chosen one.

Its an integral part they forgot about. Everything is choice in Fallout, not so much in the elder scrolls because everything is a prophecy anyway.

I sincerely hope Beth has learned something from Obsidians work. Granted, Obsidian bit off more than they could chew, limited by the technology and presumably a deadline that didn't let them properly fill and flesh out areas.
The good thing about Beth doing this, is that almost any improvement of Fallout 3 will be a surprise. Considering how they handle stories though, it's unlikely we'll get a good game as much as a few improved gimmicks and gameplay enhancements.

My prediction is thus:
Main story line will be largely uninteresting.
Choices still won't matter, through actions nor dialogue.
The setting will be largely illogical and soulless.
They will focus on large factions, rather than tightknit communities and unique characters.
Technology will be rampant and easily available.
"Survival" will still not be a proper factor.
There'll be some five to ten vaults for you to loot, just because.
Level scaling.

Not all of those are terribad and there are some things the Beth team are very good at. They're exceptional at making terrain where you can explore until you realize you've spent hundreds on hours on doing nothing but sightsee, there's always something a bit quirky or interesting about the small places you find and there's a good sandbox feel to their designs.
They are, however, inept at making coherent storylines and dialogue. They're repetative and they don't handle atmosphere very well.

Steven Bogos:

You're right, Skyrim and Fallout 3 fucking SUCKED, and I sunk over a hundred hours into both of them just to make sure they SUCKED in every facet of their amazing, huge, immersive worlds!

It sucked in comparison to what it should've been. It wouldn't take much writing to make a huge difference, had the team bothered to spend some time learning what the previous games were about instead of taking a cursory glance at some concept art.
It's the same with Skyrim, it's not a horrible game, but it's also not much more than a looting and travel simulator.

Of course this is almost impossible to discuss, since people today think that extremely limited dialogue choices that have no impact, along with repetative and streamlined combat constitutes a full RPG experience.
If Diablo had a first person perspective and optional dialogue every few minutes, it'd be the same thing. Might even be better.

New Vegas was miles ahead of FO3 in both story characters and the setting. Not that FO3 was a bad game but once you found a functioning computer on a sunk carrier with no apparent source of power or reason why it should work after 100 years just 10 cm above water level. It sort of breaks your immersion a bit. And that is just example there is plenty more to find in FO3.
Anyway it makes no matter Wasteland 2 is just around a corner and it will show the world how to make post apocalyptic RPG.

I am happy I guess. Liked FNV more, but FO3 was not bad either. Never got into Skyrim though :( .

Still... STALKER 2 :( :( .

Steven Bogos:
Fallout 4 Trademarked By Bethesda

Either way, it looks like Fallout fans can be cautiously optimistic about this one.

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Or I could be disdainful as I think Bethesda is incapable of making a Fallout game since all they ever do is make the same open world FPSRPG game over and over with different looks and bad stories.

The negativity in this thread makes me sad :(

WE'RE GETTING MORE FALLOUT GUYS! HOW IS THAT A BAD THING?

Hell I liked Fallout:NV more than Fallout 3 and Skyrim. Yet I'm still pumped for this game. Who knows, maybe Bethesda will take some hints from NV and incorporate the best of both Obsidian and themselves.

Imagine a Fallout game with better graphics than Skyrim (new console gen). Keep that drool in your mouth boy.

Far too much apathy and sarcasm in this thread.

I'm interested. I hope they either a, made a new engine for it to run in, or b, at least run it in the Creation version of the Gamebryo engine. Skyrim felt much more organic than Oblivion or Morrowind, as far as looks and animations are concerned and just walking through towns actually felt like I was walking and not stiffly shuffling around.

Drummodino:
The negativity in this thread makes me sad :(

WE'RE GETTING MORE FALLOUT GUYS! HOW IS THAT A BAD THING?

Hell I liked Fallout:NV more than Fallout 3 and Skyrim. Yet I'm still pumped for this game. Who knows, maybe Bethesda will take some hints from NV and incorporate the best of both Obsidian and themselves.

Imagine a Fallout game with better graphics than Skyrim (new console gen). Keep that drool in your mouth boy.

this guy... this guy has got it. if i'm honest, i preferred FO3's map and layouts, i thought in general the locations were more interesting, but otherwise NV was better in nearly every respect. THAT SAID, i fucking loved FO3, despite its flaws, and i'm psyched that they're finally making a new one.

with any luck they will learn from the criticisms of skyrim, and the successes of NV, but i find it very hard not to be excited about the prospect of a new fallout game

wombat_of_war:
i will bet anything its based on skyrims engine and especially its scripting engine so expect a hell of a lot more bugs than in previous games and broken quests

You think they would just create the Creation Engine just for Skyrim? Creation is derived from the previous Gamebryo Engine used in FO3 and oblivion, how much is Gamebryo is to be debated.

So your prediction is on par with captain obvious.

To be perfectly honest, there were quite a few unfinished quests than broken ones.

Hawkeye21:
So would I, but Obsidian was basically shafted and cheated by Zenimax out of their justly deserved royalties, and I doubt they would want to have anything to do with each other ever again. That was a shitty move on Zenimax part, considering that NV sold better than F3.

Funny enough both companies have expressed interesting in working together again.

And Obsidian doesn't really care that they didn't get the royalties, because even they knew it was their own fault for not meeting the conditions of the contract they agreed to. They didn't take it that hard.

Ultratwinkie:
Its like the elder scrolls without an elder scroll, a huge world ending prophecy, the empire, or a chosen one.

Fun fact, no Elder Scrolls actually appeared in Arena, Daggerfall, Battlespire, Redguard, or Morrowind.

And the Heroes of Arena, Daggerfall, Battlespire, and Redguard were not chosen ones, nor did they involve world ending prophecies.

Yet all of them were TES games.

Bethesda really has to step up on their story and dialogue, in fact get the writers from Obsidian to do it and they can incorporate the best from both companies in terms of gameplay. Still I am happy to at least get another Fallout game.

Anyone else curious as to why the morse code date isn't in American format? They're an American company and that date coincides with the Spike VGAs which is in America. Seems strange with this news too.

Judging by the negativity of the thread ... we need the help of a "Escapist United Nations of Pure Fun" member.
... basically me.
I'm sorry for introducing myself this way.

Okay, Fallout 4. (Hopefully this rumor is true and they will make a real announcement at one point/on that site.)
Good news, another Fallout game which will be created with a better engine then 3/NV and also created for this new generation. (I'm guessing)
I think this is good news, I only hope that they can place a interesting story and characters in it like Fallout 3.
AND GOD ... please smite the bugs before release, just hammer them.

To me, Fallout 3 had a great story and great characters.
YET these were not that diverse and did not offer us a lot of choice. (I still had fun)

Fallout New Vegas (Again to my own opinion), has better gameplay overall, but the setting felt ... bleh.
It almost felt like a western game instead of a Fallout game.
BUT there were more choices in this one.

In all honesty I just want a Fallout with damn good gameplay and a good story/characters.
And that the people making it smashes the bugs and problems before launch. (And can have many good DLC)

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Why cant we just like both?

Two post in we already have people trying to start another flame war between F3 and F:NV. You guys be making me sad.

OT: I'm really interested in what this one is going to be about. If its in Europe they have a clean slate to start everything over. But on thee other side we have the chance of visiting the Commonwealth (most advanced settlement of humans). Really excited for December

As long as there are mod support and VATS, I am all for it.

//edit: maybe a Deathclaw companion at launch.

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