Fallout 4 Teaser Sites Broadcasts Ominous New Message

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johannmaximus:
According to the source files, the message is an mp3 titled hanscom msg. Hanscom Air Force Base is located near Bedford, Massachusetts. Quabbin is also in Massachusetts. I think this adds another layer. Either this reinforces the validity or makes this an even more elaborate hoax.

Awh man, Fallout plus Lovecraft Country in one game. I just think I had a nerd-gasm.

As I've said before, unless this is announcing that the new game is shipping and will be on store shelves as soon as the trucks can arrive, I'm hardly caring. I get tired of these hype machines... "We're making an announcement that we'll be making an announcement later" or "here is a 40 hour long ARG, and if you solve it you'll get a preview trailer telling you to buy something".

Call me a "Scrooge", but honestly I have a hard time getting excited for the announcement of a game, even one I'll probably like, and play heavily, that's likely going to be a year or more away from release.

Realitycrash:

johannmaximus:
According to the source files, the message is an mp3 titled hanscom msg. Hanscom Air Force Base is located near Bedford, Massachusetts. Quabbin is also in Massachusetts. I think this adds another layer. Either this reinforces the validity or makes this an even more elaborate hoax.

Awh man, Fallout plus Lovecraft Country in one game. I just think I had a nerd-gasm.

Well, Fallout 3 had a very Lovecraftian quest involving a cursed book that was part of "Point Lookout" and actually brought you back to a location in the main game to destroy it. Something which certainly added the possibility for them to start messing around with dark mysticism and the like if they move on to New England and want to go in that direction.

That said I have my doubts that they will do a whole lot with it, because it would have a lot of people screaming bloody murder as fun as it might be. As Yahtzee is always complaining about, there are a lot of people who get irate whenever "ancient mystical cults" show up by surprise to mix things up or act as a game changer in what seemed to be an otherwise fairly straightforward story. It does not however bother me much when done correctly.

Truthfully, going to "The Commonwealth" is pretty much expected, as they left a lot of questions about that in "Fallout 3" rather intentionally. I'd expect that we'll probably seeing it having a sort of "Blade Runner" type vibe as androids passing as humans seems to be a big issue, and apparently they even had specialists for tracking down escapees, and an underground railroad of sorts established. This was also an element of Wasteland as well, which is pretty much the first game in the series (despite the development of Wasteland 2). The whole bit with the Martians, and the "Fire Lance" was from the Wasteland paragraphs book, as a sort of joke/misdirection aimed at people who tried to read the paragraphs randomly to solve puzzles or figure out what was going on in places. I wouldn't be remotely surprised if we wind up with some references to Finster and his project, and perhaps even a visit by "Stu" who revealed himself to be an android at the end of the story tying together the original Wasteland clue book.

I also am sort of waiting to see if they start tossing in some KKK references, in this case the KKK referring to the Killer Klown Kommandos which are the main antagonists of "Fountain Of Dreams", which was the original, and very obscure, sequel to Wasteland. While a lot of people were looking at the evil clown mask and "kiddie killer" bit in Fallout 3 as a Michel Meyers reference, I think it was supposed to be a double whammie with the Killer Klowns, both invoking that movie, and making a subtle reference to an obscure game in the universe few have probably even heard of.

Then of course there is another spiritual successor to "Wasteland" of a sort called "Escape From Hell" that has been begging for a remake. It mostly just used the central Wasteland engine though, and thus suffered from a lot of the same problems as that game, making it a serious pain to play nowadays. Something they thankfully fixed with the recent "update" of the original Wasteland Inxile just got done with.

Realitycrash:

Skeleon:
Nuclear winter? That might mean that - if it's even legit - it takes place shortly after the global nuking, a prequel (I hope not), or it might mean that it takes place in a cold climate area but in a similar timeframe as the other ones (I hope that's it); like, perhaps Northern Europe? Siberia? Canada? Greenland? Antarctica? It would also mean they could reuse a ton of the assets from Skyrim for landscape and whatnot.

Odds of them exploring the rest of the world with so many stories left to tell in the US are rather slim. Cool as it may be. No, North-Eastern US or North US (Chicago?) might be possible.

Still, I'd love to see some fan-movies or fan-fiction written about how the rest of the world is faring.

Well, to be honest I'm a bit surprised they had Massachusetts surviving, as much as I like the east coast (I'm in Connecticut) I pretty much figure in the advent of a nuclear war we'd be pretty much decimated, the entire eastern seaboard of the USA decimated with nukes and then further eroded by the resulting weather and tidal waves. A lot of fantasy dealing with a war like this has this entire coast pretty much gone for some good reasons, namely that the USA is a huge naval power, and a lot of our sub bases and shipyards (things like EB, etc...) are on this coast, which means to beat the USA this is pretty much going to be one of your priority targets, especially seeing as a lot of our mobile nuclear capability is going to be loaded into the subs that see port here. I pretty much think Newport News alone is going to be enough to see most of Mass. replaced by ocean real estate... likewise there are probably hundreds of nukes specially aimed at the Groton/New London/Waterford area in Connecticut just in case of a war. :)

I'll also say, that while I don't begrudge anyone wanting to see their home or favorite area survive, even with the US we shouldn't have too many different areas rebuilding from the war, it wouldn't have been much of an apocalypse if people are pretty much surviving and rebuilding everywhere. As the apparent "winners" of the war it's amazing that some parts of the US survived, but even so it's pushing disbelief if we see every section of it continueing on. If we're letting the east coast live due to some miracle... well, there shouldn't bee too many miracles, and I'm the first person who will tell you "we" should all be dead. Chicago being the second largest city in the USA (I believe, I think it's still NYC #1, Chicago #2, and then LA as #3, but I haven't checked metroplex growth recently) would be a priority target. You'd pretty much need to flatten the major cities to wipe out their resources and infrastructure. The further you are from them, the more likely you'd survive. Something like New Vegas surviving fairly intact is fairly reasonable because the city itself is an entertainment center, and doesn't actually have anything worthwhile in a strategic sense there, though there are military bases out there in the desert which would be hit, so you'd still see a lot of damage... as result I don't pick on Wasteland/New Vegas too much, especially seeing as the city had Mr. House defending it who was supposed to have technology greater than almost anyone else at the time of the war.

Then again Mr.House had very little faith in the political system. I also assume that we will be seein th second revolutionary war in boston

gyrobot:
Then again Mr.House had very little faith in the political system. I also assume that we will be seein th second revolutionary war in boston

It doesn't seem likely, what we know about "The Commonwealth" right now is that they have a very sophisticated caste of androids that can pass as humans and are apparently acting as a servant class and not all of them are happy with that. At the same time however at least some Androids are at least trusted enough to hunt other androids, and also have the authority and knowledge to barter technology and perform complex surgery. The Androids you meet in Fallout 3 being able to reward you with a cybernetic implant for quest completion.

I can't see this being overlooked if they are going there, and it doesn't seem like much of a set up for a "revolutionary war" as there is nobody to really revolt against, especially seeing as The Enclave is more or less gone, and was really only a big deal for about 15 minutes in the scheme of things. I suppose they could make civil war analogies if the entire thing comes about deciding to free androids or leave them as slaves.... they already have an underground railroad analogy going in Fallout 3 given what your told by a random NPC trying to get you to drop the
quest (who is also an android if you gun them down).

Of course given the Fallout/Wasteland school of thought involving AIs and how technology tends to work out, I'd imagine if they go there, it won't be straightforward. I could easily see this entire thing combined with a "Rise Of The Machines" type concept where your basically put into a situation where if you free the enslaved androids they will inevitably turn on inferior organic life, meaning that the evil android enslavers are actually doing what they do out
of self preservation with the technological cat being out of the bag so to speak. A much bigger and more elaborate version of the whole "Tenpenny Tower" quest where they set you up to side with a bunch of ghouls against bigoted, stuck up humans, only to find that while the humans might have been jerks, the ghouls were murderous bastards, and the humans were right since as soon as you let the ghouls in they kill all the humans and take over. :)

At any rate, it will be interesting to see where it goes if that is the location. As much as I love speculation, I am having a hard time really getting excited because as I said... we're just now seeing teasers leading up to an announcement of some kind. Unless they are breaking the usual format of a slow burn release, with them announcing "we're now making the game", it's going to be a huge amount of time before we actually have a game. With the morse code I'm half expecting that what we're going to see is an ARG leading up to some trailers or whatever.

Therumancer:
The Androids you meet in Fallout 3 being able to reward you with a cybernetic implant for quest completion.

The only person who rewards you with a cybernetic implant is Zimmer, and he is not an android.

People really need to stop pushing that conspiracy theory.

It just started transmitting morse code. I thought it was coming from the video I was watching... it just happened suddenly at 11:45 Eastern time. Anyone able to decipher?

Remember that for any given rumor about videogames, the possibilities of said rumor to be true are inversely proportional to its coverage by Reddit.

First countdown ended... site went down. Must be loading up the next part.

This is new:

KVNGR REV ALPHA PPS VT PIZ UHMYLPVOQ CM XHWMZP. NBJB SPI'F BYQS QT D'Y BYFGEOB FI VQDYL MAQ. -NGQHT 5120- Nuclear winter has come

Any ideas?

CarnageRacing00:
First countdown ended... site went down. Must be loading up the next part.

This is new:

KVNGR REV ALPHA PPS VT PIZ UHMYLPVOQ CM XHWMZP. NBJB SPI'F BYQS QT D'Y BYFGEOB FI VQDYL MAQ. -NGQHT 5120- Nuclear winter has come

Any ideas?

KVNGR = Keyed Vignere, Rev Alpha= Reverse Alphabet, PPS VT= Passphrase vaulttec.
Using this decryption keys, the text becomes:

"THE INSTITUTE IS SEALED. THEY WON'T HELP US I'M HEADING TO BLACK ROW. -TBNLS 5120-"

Interesting... curious to know what happens in 10 days, though it's likely going to occur on the Spike VGA show so I won't be watching, lol..

deathstar2Razor:
"THE INSTITUTE IS SEALED. THEY WON'T HELP US I'M HEADING TO BLACK ROW. -TBNLS 5120-"

I bet they mean MIT with that, especially when you combine that line with the rumor that Bethesda was scoping out the Boston and MIT area a while ago.

Now, that combined with the morse code message about Vault 119 near Quabbin, which is near Boston, gave me the idea to compare the distance between Quabbin and MIT to Springfield and Washington DC from Fallout 3, which were almost the edges of the map, to get a possible sense of scale of the map we'll get in Fallout 4. Results as posted on Reddit in that huge thread by my partner:

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Of course this is just a rough guess, but even for a rough guess we can see that the difference is huge. A map around, and maybe more, than twice the size of Fallout 3? Oh my.

Now of course, fingers crossed that it'll be (A) A loading-screen-less area, and (B) There'll be enough cool stuff to explore.

Cowabungaa:
A map around, and maybe more, than twice the size of Fallout 3?

Doubtful, if anything, it will be just twice as compressed as Fallout 3's map.

There is a point where after making a world so large, it just becomes utter crap, and the copy-paste that is required for games this large gets so out of hand it becomes more detrimental to make it bigger. Oblivion, Fallout 3, New Vegas, and Skyrim, were all roughly the same size, around 16 square miles, and I don't see Fo4 being any "bigger", as they already push the limit with acceptable copy-paste with those games.
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Also. your map is terribly deceptive.

-Going from Rivet City to the other side of Fallout 3's map, in a straight line, is around 61 real world miles.
-The Washington Naval Yards(where Rivet City is located) is 44.5 miles away from Warrenton, or Warrington station in Fallout 3.
-Fallout 3's map is a 51X51 grid of squares organized into a 17X17 grid of larger squares.
-Warrington is 37 squares away from Rivet City
-If 37 of those squares = 44.5 real world miles, then 51 squares = 61 miles.
-MIT is 61.7 miles away from Quabbin, if you go in a perfectly straight line.
-assuming that MIT and Quabbi nare on the extreme edges of the map, then Fallout 4's map should be the exact same size as Fallout 3's.

SajuukKhar:
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Actually, when I use this map of Fallout 3 I come up on around 22 miles between Travilah and the Washington Monument. Quite a difference with 65 miles.

Of course, yes, that's assuming the Fallout 4 locations are on the edges on the map. It's mostly to get a sense of scale, and it's still a rough guess. I just find it slightly unlikely that they'd make a fuss about both MIT and Vault 119, which would be near Quabbin, and not include both locations in the game.

On a sidenote, the Reddit thread on this whole spiel is way too much fun. The hype train just keeps on going.

Cowabungaa:
Actually, when I use this map of Fallout 3

That is a terrible map because it overlays the in-game map with a real world version of Washington, without adjusting for scaling.

This is a more accurate map to show the distance between Rivet city and warrington

aka these two locations

deathstar2Razor:

CarnageRacing00:
First countdown ended... site went down. Must be loading up the next part.

This is new:

KVNGR REV ALPHA PPS VT PIZ UHMYLPVOQ CM XHWMZP. NBJB SPI'F BYQS QT D'Y BYFGEOB FI VQDYL MAQ. -NGQHT 5120- Nuclear winter has come

Any ideas?

KVNGR = Keyed Vignere, Rev Alpha= Reverse Alphabet, PPS VT= Passphrase vaulttec.
Using this decryption keys, the text becomes:

"THE INSTITUTE IS SEALED. THEY WON'T HELP US I'M HEADING TO BLACK ROW. -TBNLS 5120-"

I am assuming the "Passphrase vaulttec" tells you which reverse alphabet to use and how, because if you just reverse the alphabet you don't get that "Institute is sealed" message.

Simply reversing the alphabet gets you "KRA" as the first word, and the symbol for the letter 'e' keeps changing, even within the words.

Alorxico:

deathstar2Razor:

CarnageRacing00:
First countdown ended... site went down. Must be loading up the next part.

This is new:

KVNGR REV ALPHA PPS VT PIZ UHMYLPVOQ CM XHWMZP. NBJB SPI'F BYQS QT D'Y BYFGEOB FI VQDYL MAQ. -NGQHT 5120- Nuclear winter has come

Any ideas?

KVNGR = Keyed Vignere, Rev Alpha= Reverse Alphabet, PPS VT= Passphrase vaulttec.
Using this decryption keys, the text becomes:

"THE INSTITUTE IS SEALED. THEY WON'T HELP US I'M HEADING TO BLACK ROW. -TBNLS 5120-"

I am assuming the "Passphrase vaulttec" tells you which reverse alphabet to use and how, because if you just reverse the alphabet you don't get that "Institute is sealed" message.

Simply reversing the alphabet gets you "KRA" as the first word, and the symbol for the letter 'e' keeps changing, even within the words.

http://rumkin.com/tools/cipher/vigenere-keyed.php

if you apply reverse alphabet, and put vaulttec as the passphrase, it works. i don't know how, i just know it does xD

Hi! My first post, but I saw this and have been watching the site regularly. The new message is accompanied by a new Morse code message as well: cq cq cq de vt 119 sos lvl4 und attk os is dead ii sos lvl4 attk os is dead we wnt mk ie

CQ as we know is "calling any station".

de vt 119:
This I don't know. DE is Delaware, but it's probably not that. VT 119, I suspect that's probably going to be Vault 119.

sos lvl4 und attk os is dead ii sos lvl4 attk os is dead:
We know ii is repeat and as we can see, it's an SOS. OS, my best guess would be the Overseer, the person in charge of the vault. So, Vault 119 is under attack, the boss is dead.

we wnt mk ie.:
We want, they want something. Now, MK usually means mark, like a version or series of something... It can also mean "Master Key". Then again it can mean mercy killing... O.o ie is a little more difficult, it can mean a LOT of things. One thing that I have seen, is "Idle End", perhaps signaling that they are idling, waiting for response, maybe, maybe not. I didn't find it or MK as radio jargon.

Just an educated guess, still thinking about it.

Edit: Made correction.

Edit2: E is a dit, T is a dah (dash). we wnt mk ie, is quite possibly "We Won't Make It."
As well, the events of Fallout 3 were in 2277 and New Vegas occurred in 2281. The year for this, as suggested by the URL, is 2299. This makes me wonder, who is invading a vault???

If this is a hoax holy crap I want to buy the guy a beer. I could definently see a new Fallout coming out. Seeing as Bethesda 'finished' with Skyrim quite some time ago. The Elder Scrolls series is likely on halt ith the MMO coming out. Next few months would be a perfect time for a new Fallout.

I'm predicting: Fallout 4, ESO launch then new dishonored or new EP.

suitepee7:

if you apply reverse alphabet, and put vaulttec as the passphrase, it works. i don't know how, i just know it does xD

It basically works the way that it takes every letter of your passphrasea transforms it into a numerical value depending on its position in the alphabet (a=1, b=2 etc.) and then does the same to the whole message and to encode it adds these numerical values preiodically (basically if n is the length of the word then evry n-th letter has the same thing added on) after this it puts it back into the jumble of letters you see above and to decode it just reverses the process (substracts). I was thinking we would have to do frequency analysis on the ciphre to decode it but that probably wouldn't work since the message is too short (and you would have to divide the message into eight parts and use frequency analysis on every single part and that just wouldn't be feasible now, would it? :D

Well, looks like this morning we are gifted with yet again, a new Morse code message; it's just continuing on:

clg br otst gx is sf tl lvl 4 bre n srv 899 crps we lvg vt 119 kn

Flutterguy:
If this is a hoax holy crap I want to buy the guy a beer...

If you run a whois on the domain, it'll show it's ZeniMax Media Inc. It'll also provide the IP which, if you look it up, shows to be out of Baltimore, Maryland, is attached to the correct domain and is listed under a type of Corporate. I don't think it's a hoax, if it is, this is like the worst prank ever!

Dirge4Discordia:
If you run a whois on the domain, it'll show it's ZeniMax Media Inc. It'll also provide the IP which, if you look it up, shows to be out of Baltimore, Maryland, is attached to the correct domain and is listed under a type of Corporate. I don't think it's a hoax, if it is, this is like the worst prank ever!

Its laughably easy to fake a whois page details.

Also, the website was registered via godaddy.com, whereas Zenimax uses an entirely different company for literally every other website they have made.

SajuukKhar:

Therumancer:
The Androids you meet in Fallout 3 being able to reward you with a cybernetic implant for quest completion.

The only person who rewards you with a cybernetic implant is Zimmer, and he is not an android.

People really need to stop pushing that conspiracy theory.

I'm pretty sure he is, I seem to remember pulling android parts off of both him and his 'bodyguard' after killing them.

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