Lords of Shadow Studio's New Game is Coming to PS4 and Xbox One, Not Wii U

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Lords of Shadow Studio's New Game is Coming to PS4 and Xbox One, Not Wii U

Lords of Shadow 2

Mercury Steam's new, unannounced game will be "completely different" from Castlevania and is scheduled for the PS4 and Xbox One, but not the Wii U.

During a roundtable interview for Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2, producer Dave Cox has announced that Mercury Steam is working on a new, unannounced game for the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One that's "completely different" from the Castlevania series the studio's known for. Unfortunately for Wii U owners, it won't come to Nintendo's console, for reasons yet to be revealed.

While Cox remains tight-lipped about the studio's future game, he did reveal that a number of ideas that never made it into Lords of Shadow 2, which includes combat mechanics, might be implemented in the studio's next-gen debut.

Lastly, if you're hoping to play Lords of Shadow 2 on the PS4 or Xbox One, don't hold your breath, as Cox admits that while the studio considered the option last year, Konami has no plans to port the game to the new consoles since it would mean changing the game's engine significantly.

Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2 is set for a February 25 release for the PC, PS3 and Xbox 360 and picks up right where the first Lords of Shadow left off.

Make sure to give our Lords of Shadow 2 preview a read where it talks about the new combat mechanics and much more.

Source: GameSpot

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That's odd, I could have sworn they had no plans for the new gen consoles according to Dtoid.

http://www.destructoid.com/no-plans-for-castlevania-lords-of-shadow-2-on-next-gen-268648.phtml

It's also really retarded at this point that once again the Wii U doesn't get to have an awesome game like LOS1 and 2.

I can't wait to see the bullshit excuse as per usual and people coming to defend said excuse because they somehow think it's right to deny other gamers.

I'm curious to see what game they're working on and more interested to see why it won't make it to the Wii U...as for Lords of Shadow 2, I'm not going to touch that thing...the original burned me and the 3DS one burned me a bit more intensely.

Shadow-Phoenix:
That's odd, I could have sworn they had no plans for the new gen consoles according to Dtoid.

http://www.destructoid.com/no-plans-for-castlevania-lords-of-shadow-2-on-next-gen-268648.phtml

It's also really retarded at this point that once again the Wii U doesn't get to have an awesome game like LOS1 and 2.

I can't wait to see the bullshit excuse as per usual and people coming to defend said excuse because they somehow think it's right to deny other gamers.

I think they're talking about their new new game, not LoD2.

With the amount of third party developers saying their games aren't going to be available on the Wii-U I hope Nintendo will talk to them and see why and hopefully take that into consideration when designing their next console.

Sanunes:
With the amount of third party developers saying their games aren't going to be available on the Wii-U I hope Nintendo will talk to them and see why and hopefully take that into consideration when designing their next console.

i more or less hope they come groveling to Nintendo in the future.

Most of them haven't shown much of an interest and some have spited Nintendo (the likes of EA and others), I don't see why Nintendo should be the one groveling,begging, saying sorry for not being able to get third party support, third party support is not supposed to be the one in charge/making the demands and calling the shots, they should be looking into supporting Nintendo, not looking for reasons that are beyond stupid to do with them.

Honestly at this point are there still people who actually buy Nintendo consoles actually thinking it was gonna get excellent 3rd party support? Nintendo systems past the SNES have never had good 3rd party support, and that's because many 3rd parties were tired of how Nintendo would treat them and went to other places. As I've said before, Yamauchi put Iwata in this position really, and at this point 3rd parties are more than likely not gonna come back.

Also, are people really upset that they will be missing another Lords of Shadow game? The first one was terrible, the 3DS was was bad, and honestly I don't think this one is gonna be any diiferent. It reminds me of how I saw people upset that the Wii U didn't get Colonial Marines. I say count your blessings for that one. I've had a Wii U for ages now and now have more games for it than my 360 (My 360 sits in a box under my bed). I'm definitely not gonna get my knickers in a twist over this.

At this point it would be newsworthy if a third party game that isn't an exclusive, and/or has a history of making games for all consoles REGARDLESS makes a game for the Wii U.

We all know what the general "reason" would be:

1) Small install base

2) Can't compete with Nintendo First party

3) Gamepad tooooo haaaaaard

4) Not powerful enough

5) We really just don't like Nintendo too much money to develop for.

Take your picks fellow users. It's going to be one of these.

Neronium:
Honestly at this point are there still people who actually buy Nintendo console's actually thinking it was gonna get excellent 3rd party support? Nintendo systems past the SNES have never had good 3rd party support, and that's because many 3rd parties were tired of how Nintendo would treat them and went to other places. As I've said before, Yamauchi put Iwata in this position really, and at this point 3rd parties are more than likely not gonna come back.

Also, are people really upset that they will be missing another Lords of Shadow game? The first one was terrible, the 3DS was was bad, and honestly I don't think this one is gonna be any diiferent. It reminds me of how I saw people upset that the Wii U didn't get Colonial Marines. I say count your blessings for that one. I've had a Wii U for ages now and now have more games for it than my 360 (My 360 sits in a box under my bed). I'm definitely not gonna get my knickers in a twist over this.

There were seriously people upset that Colonial Marines wasn't coming to the Wii U?

Didn't Nintendo actually deny them that port because it was so shit?

Shoggoth2588:
I'm curious to see what game they're working on and more interested to see why it won't make it to the Wii U...

I suspect it has something to do with the 2nd most success third-party Wii U game ever only selling 300,000 copies total.

I think this studio is independent right? That probably means they don't have a lot of money/people to put on making a port, and also if their port fails miserably then they probably can't afford to take the financial loss.

Shadow-Phoenix:

Sanunes:
With the amount of third party developers saying their games aren't going to be available on the Wii-U I hope Nintendo will talk to them and see why and hopefully take that into consideration when designing their next console.

i more or less hope they come groveling to Nintendo in the future.

Most of them haven't shown much of an interest and some have spited Nintendo (the likes of EA and others), I don't see why Nintendo should be the one groveling,begging, saying sorry for not being able to get third party support, third party support is not supposed to be the one in charge/making the demands and calling the shots, they should be looking into supporting Nintendo, not looking for reasons that are beyond stupid to do with them.

I mean Nintendo can try that, but it's not actually going to happen and the person who loses out in that scenario isn't the third-parties. Even when the Wii became the second best selling console of all time the third-parties didn't come crawling back to it, if they didn't then, they're certainly not going to come back to the Wii U.

Third-parties have no responsibility except to make money. They aren't doing this to spite Nintendo, they're doing it because every single game they've sold on the Wii has lost them crud loads of money.

Look at Wonderful 101, they adore Nintendo, to the point where it was rumoured they wanted to become a second-party publisher. And how well did that work out for them? Just 130,000 units sold. That's not enough to pay for the coffee they drank.

Publishers aren't going to make games for Nintendo unless Nintendo shows that those games are going to sell. They didn't sell for the Wii, they didn't sell for the Wii U. It's not arrogance to not throw away money for the sake of Nintendo, it's common sense. If Nintendo wants them back then they need to produce sales or do a Microsoft and throw money at them

Dragonbums:

There were seriously people upset that Colonial Marines wasn't coming to the Wii U?

Didn't Nintendo actually deny them that port because it was so shit?

Yeah, there were Wii U owners on this site actually that we're saying how it was unfair that they weren't gonna get the game and were saying how obviously Gearbox doesn't like Nintendo. As for Nintendo denying it, I don't think that's the case really because that sounds like something Yamauchi would do in his time, and believe me if Iwata does ever actually want 3rd party support there's a lot of damage Yamauchi did to some 3rd parties. Most notable would probably be Square.

BrotherRool:

Shoggoth2588:
I'm curious to see what game they're working on and more interested to see why it won't make it to the Wii U...

I suspect it has something to do with the 2nd most success third-party Wii U game ever only selling 300,000 copies total.

I think this studio is independent right? That probably means they don't have a lot of money/people to put on making a port, and also if their port fails miserably then they probably can't afford to take the financial loss.

Shadow-Phoenix:

Sanunes:
With the amount of third party developers saying their games aren't going to be available on the Wii-U I hope Nintendo will talk to them and see why and hopefully take that into consideration when designing their next console.

i more or less hope they come groveling to Nintendo in the future.

Most of them haven't shown much of an interest and some have spited Nintendo (the likes of EA and others), I don't see why Nintendo should be the one groveling,begging, saying sorry for not being able to get third party support, third party support is not supposed to be the one in charge/making the demands and calling the shots, they should be looking into supporting Nintendo, not looking for reasons that are beyond stupid to do with them.

I mean Nintendo can try that, but it's not actually going to happen and the person who loses out in that scenario isn't the third-parties. Even when the Wii became the second best selling console of all time the third-parties didn't come crawling back to it, if they didn't then, they're certainly not going to come back to the Wii U.

Third-parties have no responsibility except to make money. They aren't doing this to spite Nintendo, they're doing it because every single game they've sold on the Wii has lost them crud loads of money.

Look at Wonderful 101, they adore Nintendo, to the point where it was rumoured they wanted to become a second-party publisher. And how well did that work out for them? Just 130,000 units sold. That's not enough to pay for the coffee they drank.

Publishers aren't going to make games for Nintendo unless Nintendo shows that those games are going to sell. They didn't sell for the Wii, they didn't sell for the Wii U. It's not arrogance to not throw away money for the sake of Nintendo, it's common sense. If Nintendo wants them back then they need to produce sales or do a Microsoft and throw money at them

The big thing your forgetting in regards to P* (and to extension clover studios since it's basically the same staff) is that they NEVER made much(if any) money third party on other systems. Never.
They liked Nintendo because Nintendo-I'm assuming- knew the history of the company in terms of game sales yet they were wholly willing to mitigate that loss for them to let them make whatever they want.

At this point, if P* were to go to Sony or Microsoft again they would simply of been outright rejected. Just like beforehand. Nobody wanted to put any money into their games because the company never turned a profit for any company or publisher it worked under with the exception of ONE GAME for Capcom or something.

Seriously now, this image is every company to nintendo

ffs companies, be nice to nintendo once in a while and release your games to the WiiU, especially since there are people willing to pay for the stupid games.

Dragonbums:
At this point it would be newsworthy if a third party game that isn't an exclusive, and/or has a history of making games for all consoles REGARDLESS makes a game for the Wii U.

We all know what the general "reason" would be:

1) Small install base

2) Can't compete with Nintendo First party

3) Gamepad tooooo haaaaaard

4) Not powerful enough

5) We really just don't like Nintendo too much money to develop for.

Take your picks fellow users. It's going to be one of these.

I think what's funny is that in another interview Cox then claims to have mad respect for Nintendo due to how LoS2 takes inspiration from Zelda.

Okay, Cox, do I look like an idiot to you? Do you REALLY have so little respect for people's intelligence that you expect them to buy that? You can't praise Nintendo and then do nothing for them. Your words claim to respect Nintendo, but your ACTIONS show what's really going on. If you don't want to make games on Nintendo systems, then fine, go ahead, but don't pretend it's due to money, or the Gamepad, or the power of the system, the install base, or Nintendo's obscenely popular 1st party offerings (that's my personal favorite due to it being an admission of incompetence), and ESPECIALLY don't freaking praise them and then spit in their face by refusing to do anything for them. At this point I've just given up on taking 3rd parties seriously when they pull crap like this. Best to just let them continue sulking while Nintendo only gets more expansive and powerful

Captcha: No brainer

No kidding

BrotherRool:
-snip-

Basically never then, we should know by now that they are caught in the catch 22 situation and that's ever so hard to break free from.

But hey don't let them throw money, let Nintendo take care of all that for them.

I was afraid to swim with aquatic life during my stay in Florida but I did it, if I hadn't well I'd have never know and if I stayed away from it forever I'd never have had that experience, just because it's happened in the Wii does not set it in solid complete history known future for the Wii U.

EA as we know is not the nice kind spirited well known for great games publisher and you saw how they reacted to the WIi U.

Dragonbums:

The big thing your forgetting in regards to P* (and to extension clover studios since it's basically the same staff) is that they NEVER made much(if any) money third party on other systems. Never.
They liked Nintendo because Nintendo-I'm assuming- knew the history of the company in terms of game sales yet they were wholly willing to mitigate that loss for them to let them make whatever they want.

At this point, if P* were to go to Sony or Microsoft again they would simply of been outright rejected. Just like beforehand. Nobody wanted to put any money into their games because the company never turned a profit for any company or publisher it worked under with the exception of ONE GAME for Capcom or something.

That's true. If Nintendo could stretch themselves to fund one or two companies like that it might make a difference.*

*Well I'd like to believe that's true. In reality it probably wouldn't work because Nintendo wouldn't have any of the big flashy games people actually know about. But in an ideal world...

BrotherRool:

Dragonbums:

The big thing your forgetting in regards to P* (and to extension clover studios since it's basically the same staff) is that they NEVER made much(if any) money third party on other systems. Never.
They liked Nintendo because Nintendo-I'm assuming- knew the history of the company in terms of game sales yet they were wholly willing to mitigate that loss for them to let them make whatever they want.

At this point, if P* were to go to Sony or Microsoft again they would simply of been outright rejected. Just like beforehand. Nobody wanted to put any money into their games because the company never turned a profit for any company or publisher it worked under with the exception of ONE GAME for Capcom or something.

That's true. If Nintendo could stretch themselves to fund one or two companies like that it might make a difference.*

*Well I'd like to believe that's true. In reality it probably wouldn't work because Nintendo wouldn't have any of the big flashy games people actually know about. But in an ideal world...

They have the money to fund, and/or outright buy a lot of companies. However that doesn't seem to be how Nintendo goes about things at all. They like to exchange team members from time to time to help out. If a studio expresses huge interest in working with Nintendo they will work hand in hand on the projects.

In SEGA's case, they had some Nintendo staff working on their latest Sonic game. Based on gameplay I would even say they gave them access to the physics engine in Super Mario Galaxy as well. In P* studios case, Nintendo kept very close watch to make sure they didn't bullshit gameplay (and according to staff they took that job very seriously.) otherwise they left said studio be.

Why would they? It's a next gen game, of course it would only be on next gen platforms. That'd be like Square making Final Fantasy 13 for the Playstation 2.

It also doesn't help that there's just no money on the WiiU.

wasn't lord of shadows basically glorified crash bandicoot mixed with quicktime actions

who cares

if anything, maybe it's starting to make a point about how unqualified today's game makers are in meeting standards for good games

So... Is this thread just going to be endless people saying that no really, the Wii U is great, you'll totally make your money back on making games for it with absolutely no backup?

Because you can say the stated reasons are a false mask hiding outright hatred for Nintendo, but unless you've got some numbers indicating that porting to Wii U will be cheap enough and sell enough copies to warrant the trouble, all you're doing is throwing around baseless accusations.

Falterfire:
So... Is this thread just going to be endless people saying that no really, the Wii U is great, you'll totally make your money back on making games for it with absolutely no backup?

Because you can say the stated reasons are a false mask hiding outright hatred for Nintendo, but unless you've got some numbers indicating that porting to Wii U will be cheap enough and sell enough copies to warrant the trouble, all you're doing is throwing around baseless accusations.

until you can disprove the existence of the PS3 and its eventual success despite what it did and what it is, i find it hard to believe their claims are the only things holding it back

weirdguy:
until you can disprove the existence of the PS3 and its eventual success despite what it did and what it is, i find it hard to believe their claims are the only things holding it back

See, here's what you're doing: There is a specific situation where this worked out. One situation. Then you're asking companies to wager a not inconsiderable sum on this situation playing out in exactly the same way the last one did with no reference except one instance where it worked out and the assumption that the Wii U saga will end up playing out in the same way the PS3 did despite minimal parallels beyond a small initial install base.

It's surprisingly easy to wager somebody else's money on a risk you aren't taking.

Dragonbums:

They have the money to fund, and/or outright buy a lot of companies. However that doesn't seem to be how Nintendo goes about things at all. They like to exchange team members from time to time to help out. If a studio expresses huge interest in working with Nintendo they will work hand in hand on the projects.

In SEGA's case, they had some Nintendo staff working on their latest Sonic game. Based on gameplay I would even say they gave them access to the physics engine in Super Mario Galaxy as well. In P* studios case, Nintendo kept very close watch to make sure they didn't bullshit gameplay (and according to staff they took that job very seriously.) otherwise they left said studio be.

That's the thing about Nintendo; the kind of relationship they want to garner with 3rd parties is symbiotic and independent. However, it seems to me that most 3rd parties want to be parasitic. Nintendo is willing to meet 3rd parties halfway, but 3rd parties refuse to do the other half, expecting Nintendo to do more work than should be expected. And if they're going to be like that, then what's the point? Better to just expand their own company and repertoire just for the sake of their sanity.

Falterfire:

weirdguy:
until you can disprove the existence of the PS3 and its eventual success despite what it did and what it is, i find it hard to believe their claims are the only things holding it back

See, here's what you're doing: There is a specific situation where this worked out. One situation. Then you're asking companies to wager a not inconsiderable sum on this situation playing out in exactly the same way the last one did with no reference except one instance where it worked out.

It's surprisingly easy to wager somebody else's money on a risk you aren't taking.

it's also easy to make assumptions on the basis of things people never actually made an honest effort to try

it's not they're even guaranteed success, it's just that failure is assumed to be the most likely outcome when we don't even know that because we don't have any examples of actually good games on the wii u failing even with a reasonable business plan

Shadow-Phoenix:
That's odd, I could have sworn they had no plans for the new gen consoles according to Dtoid.

http://www.destructoid.com/no-plans-for-castlevania-lords-of-shadow-2-on-next-gen-268648.phtml

It's also really retarded at this point that once again the Wii U doesn't get to have an awesome game like LOS1 and 2.

I can't wait to see the bullshit excuse as per usual and people coming to defend said excuse because they somehow think it's right to deny other gamers.

The Wii U is a different animal than the Xbox One and PS4 and they don't think it has a big enough install base to justify the port? Companies don't avoid a certain console out of spite. This is a calculated risk.
Edit: Seriously, guys. There is no industry wide conspiracy against Nintendo. Money talks.

Mcoffey:
Why would they? It's a next gen game, of course it would only be on next gen platforms. That'd be like Square making Final Fantasy 13 for the Playstation 2.

It also doesn't help that there's just no money on the WiiU.

Except the Wii U far exceeds the power of the PS2. Thus making it a really bad analogy. A better analogy would be making FF 13 on the Xbox 360 and PS3 as opposed to the Xbox 1 and PS4 which automatically makes your entire argument fall apart because there is a very good chance this game will be on those systems at some point therefore cementing the fact that they aren't making a Wii U version because they don't want to.

RedEyesBlackGamer:

Shadow-Phoenix:
That's odd, I could have sworn they had no plans for the new gen consoles according to Dtoid.

http://www.destructoid.com/no-plans-for-castlevania-lords-of-shadow-2-on-next-gen-268648.phtml

It's also really retarded at this point that once again the Wii U doesn't get to have an awesome game like LOS1 and 2.

I can't wait to see the bullshit excuse as per usual and people coming to defend said excuse because they somehow think it's right to deny other gamers.

The Wii U is a different animal than the Xbox One and PS4 and they don't think it has a big enough install base to justify the port? Companies don't avoid a certain console out of spite. This is a calculated risk.

The problem with the install base thing right now though is that Sony and Microsoft currently have a smaller install base than the Wii U as well. Meaning that it would make no sense for them to make ports on two consoles with the lower userbase and exclude the one with the highest install base.

Meaning that install base is one of many factors for why the Wii U isn't getting this game.

Dragonbums:

RedEyesBlackGamer:

Shadow-Phoenix:
That's odd, I could have sworn they had no plans for the new gen consoles according to Dtoid.

http://www.destructoid.com/no-plans-for-castlevania-lords-of-shadow-2-on-next-gen-268648.phtml

It's also really retarded at this point that once again the Wii U doesn't get to have an awesome game like LOS1 and 2.

I can't wait to see the bullshit excuse as per usual and people coming to defend said excuse because they somehow think it's right to deny other gamers.

The Wii U is a different animal than the Xbox One and PS4 and they don't think it has a big enough install base to justify the port? Companies don't avoid a certain console out of spite. This is a calculated risk.

The problem with the install base thing right now though is that Sony and Microsoft currently have a smaller install base than the Wii U as well. Meaning that it would make no sense for them to make ports on two consoles with the lower userbase and exclude the one with the highest install base.

Meaning that install base is one of many factors for why the Wii U isn't getting this game.

The new systems' install bases are still growing rapidly. The consoles just came out, after all. Sony and Microsoft have also never been shy about incentivizing porting to their systems either. Again, money talks. If they aren't porting to a certain system, there is a reason.

at the end of the day, it's still built on lies, and investing in a lie is only as good as long as the lie lasts

Dragonbums:

RedEyesBlackGamer:

Shadow-Phoenix:
That's odd, I could have sworn they had no plans for the new gen consoles according to Dtoid.

http://www.destructoid.com/no-plans-for-castlevania-lords-of-shadow-2-on-next-gen-268648.phtml

It's also really retarded at this point that once again the Wii U doesn't get to have an awesome game like LOS1 and 2.

I can't wait to see the bullshit excuse as per usual and people coming to defend said excuse because they somehow think it's right to deny other gamers.

The Wii U is a different animal than the Xbox One and PS4 and they don't think it has a big enough install base to justify the port? Companies don't avoid a certain console out of spite. This is a calculated risk.

The problem with the install base thing right now though is that Sony and Microsoft currently have a smaller install base than the Wii U as well. Meaning that it would make no sense for them to make ports on two consoles with the lower userbase and exclude the one with the highest install base.

Meaning that install base is one of many factors for why the Wii U isn't getting this game.

Um actually the PS4's install base and the Wii U's install base are basically even. Sony just reported a few days ago that they have sold 4.2 million PS4's and the Wii U's current install base is about 4.3 million. Also remember that the PS4 and Xbox One aren't available worldwide yet. PS4 launches in Asian regions in February, and Xbox One has the unknown "2014" so who knows when it'll launch into Asian markets.

weirdguy:

Falterfire:

weirdguy:
until you can disprove the existence of the PS3 and its eventual success despite what it did and what it is, i find it hard to believe their claims are the only things holding it back

See, here's what you're doing: There is a specific situation where this worked out. One situation. Then you're asking companies to wager a not inconsiderable sum on this situation playing out in exactly the same way the last one did with no reference except one instance where it worked out.

It's surprisingly easy to wager somebody else's money on a risk you aren't taking.

it's also easy to make assumptions on the basis of things people never actually made an honest effort to try

it's not they're even guaranteed success, it's just that failure is assumed to be the most likely outcome when we don't even know that because we don't have any examples of actually good games on the wii u failing even with a reasonable business plan

Let me add another point against your argument that I'm surprised you can't seem to figure. Most if not all of the third party publishers that made games for the Wii (not the Wii-U) lost money. Most core styled titles released on the Wii flopped. Japanese AS WELL as Western markets.

The Wii is the second best selling console of all time yet most companies couldn't sell games to people at even passable numbers without pandering to a casual market that Nintendo's rigorous marketing created. Games like Murumasa: The Demon Blade was not going to sell to the market that throws money at Wii Fit pads that clearly are inaccurate pieces of gimmick tech that are now obsolete. Games like Just Dance got annual sales on the Wii while games like Xenoblade Chronicles become critically acclaimed, yet struggle to sell even after a massive campaign and successful petition to get the game localized.

It's reasons like this that fans of Nintendo always ignore when they speak the now frankly silly question, "Why don't companies make games for Nintendo's console?" They also are woefully unaware that they are the loud minority when it comes to people that don't know the answer to that question. You've gotta realize, a lot of people who bought the Wii were unbelievable pissed that there was so much shovelware shoved into their faces. They were also pissed that the motion control support that was so damn touted for the console dropped sharply after the console's second year on the market. Also was pretty flawed to begin with, AND was implemented in very gimmicky ways. A lot of those people figured that they could pass on a Nintendo console generation with the Wii-U, as they know that the first party titles are going to follow the same formula they've been following for the past 30 years with minor improvements and the third party titles being good will be few and far between (as well as pretty niche frankly. Most of the best 3rd party Nintendo exclusives are Eastern releases.)

So a lot of people left the Nintendo ship this gen.

Third party publishers are looking at the sales of the console and thinking that the market for that console is so fragmented that spending the money to make a game that's not shovelware for the Wii-U it's literally not big enough to mean anything but a financial loss. And a big one. The PS4 has been on the market just under 3 months and has shipped as many units as the Wii-Units as Nintendo has managed to move in well over a year. X1's have almost caught up as well.

Now can people who argue for Nintendo please take what I've just said and commit it to memory. These are the arguments that you are failing to argue against, and yet continue to ignore over and over again. You ask why its not working out for your favourite console and get angry with people when answers are presented then proceed to argue with straw man, anecdotal evidence and pseudo-intelligent ad hominem one-liners.

Dragonbums:

Mcoffey:
Why would they? It's a next gen game, of course it would only be on next gen platforms. That'd be like Square making Final Fantasy 13 for the Playstation 2.

It also doesn't help that there's just no money on the WiiU.

Except the Wii U far exceeds the power of the PS2. Thus making it a really bad analogy. A better analogy would be making FF 13 on the Xbox 360 and PS3 as opposed to the Xbox 1 and PS4 which automatically makes your entire argument fall apart because there is a very good chance this game will be on those systems at some point therefore cementing the fact that they aren't making a Wii U version because they don't want to.

My point was next gen-last gen. The Wii U is a little bit more powerful than a 360, which is still pretty far from either the PS4 or the Xbone. The work involved to make a stripped down WiiU version, as well as the low chance of profit because it's the WiiU, makes it a no brainer why they aren't making one.

Remember they're talking about their new next gen project, not porting up Lords of Shadow 2.

Question. Why do 3rd party developers not make games for WiiU?
Answer. Because they dont have to.

I dont get why people get annoyed, no company is under any obligation to make games for every console available. Granted the WiiU lacks 3rd party support, but then people only buy Nintendo consoles for its first party software. Although i realize 3rd party releases would make waiting for those 1st party titles a lot easier.

Did the Wii U stab someones mother or something? I don't get why it is getting all the third party hate? Is Nintendo that difficult to work with?

Vault Citizen:
Did the Wii U stab someones mother or something? I don't get why it is getting all the third party hate? Is Nintendo that difficult to work with?

For the Japanese developers and probably some of the older developers they remembered how bad it was when Yamauchi was in charge. Look up how he treated a lot of third parties when he was in charge and you'll see why so many were eager to jump ship to Sony. Some of those old policies are still in place so 3rd parties who have been given freedom, some a little too much freedom, don't wanna go back to be restricted. That and if you look at it historically, 3rd parties lose a bunch of money when on Nintendo's console's. For the GameCube, Square Enix support it for 3 years and lost money all those years, and the same was with Capcom. When it came to the Wii, it was significantly lacking in certain areas that the other competition could easily supply, so while it had the install base, it lacked certain things some devs looked for. For the Wii U I see most of the time it's because of the install base, which is pretty bad when you consider that it was on theatkey for a year and the PS4 has almost completely caught up to its install base size in only a month and a half, and the PS4 isn't available in the Asian market yet either.

Plus, like I said earlier it's Lords of Shadow 2. Does no one remember how horrible the first game was? Complaining about it reminds me of when Wii U owners complained that they were getting Colonial Marines. Count your blessings is what I say.

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