Report: Windows 9 Being Prepped For April 2015 Launch

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Report: Windows 9 Being Prepped For April 2015 Launch

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Microsoft will allegedly unveil its vision for Windows 9 at the company's Build 2014 developer conference this April.

Have you made the switch to Windows 8? If not, you may just want to hold out another year. Windows watcher Paul Thurrott reports that work is already well underway on Windows 9, which is currently being prepped for an April 2015 launch. Thurrott claims Microsoft will reveal the new operation system, currently code-named "Threshold", at the company's Build 2014 developer conference this April.

Windows 8, the successor to Windows 7, was released just 14 months ago, in October 2012. Suffering from the "even-numbered Windows curse", it faced some pretty harsh criticism, particularly in relation to its radical "Metro" re-design of the start menu. Some of these criticisms were addressed in its first major update, Windows 8.1, and a planned "Update 1" for the OS should address more.

Nonetheless, it seems Microsoft is very keen to distance itself from Windows 8's negative feedback, and start over with a whole new number. "This is the release my sources previously pegged as being the one that will see the return of the Start menu and the ability to run Metro-style apps on the desktop alongside desktop applications," says Thurrott.

According to a recent Steam hardware and software survey, just 11.58% of gamers use a version of Windows 8, and 9.17% a version of 8.1, compared to 65.84% still using a version of Windows 7.

I'm still using Windows 7, and unless Microsoft literally forces me to upgrade, I'm quite content to stick with it. I was also one of those people who completely avoided Vista, jumping straight from XP to 7. How about you?

Source: Paul Thurrott's Super Site via The Verge

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It will be interesting to see if it will follow this cycle.
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I'm with you 100%. I wouldn't touch Windows 8 with a ten foot flaming torch.

Hopefully the trend of the odd-numbered Windows OS's being good will continue with Windows 9.

Side note: "it seems Microsoft is very keep to distance itself from Windows 8's negative feedback"
Very keep to distance? Am I dumb, or is this a typo?

sb666:
It will be interesting to see if it will follow this cycle.
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Let us hope that the picture doesn't lie.

OT: That's actually pretty early I think. I mean Windows 8 became available to the open market in 2012, and it's barely 2014 right not. But then again maybe it isn't too early I suppose. Hopefully I might like Windows 9, if not then looks like 7 is staying with me for another decade or so, just like XP stayed with my family for a decade.

Well then again, I did have a laptop with Windows Vista Home Basic on it, but it was once my sister's. Was the worst OS I ever had the pleasure of dealing with. Vista was such a resource hog for the stupidest of reasons, and when I jumped to Windows 7 Home Premium I loved it. Now I'm rocking Windows 7 Ultimate so I love it even more.

Sir Thomas Sean Connery:
I'm with you 100%. I wouldn't touch Windows 8 with a ten foot flaming torch.

Hopefully the trend of the odd-numbered Windows OS's being good will continue with Windows 9.

Side note: "it seems Microsoft is very keep to distance itself from Windows 8's negative feedback"
Very keep to distance? Am I dumb, or is this a typo?

just a typo

sb666:
It will be interesting to see if it will follow this cycle.
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That picture is wrong, its missing Win98 Second Edition, Win NT 4.0 and Windows 2000, though the curve would still be correct for the most part.

That being said, it smells like another case of Vista to 7. So maybe Win9 will be the good Win8 essentially, like how 7 is essentially the good Vista version ;P

I wish microsoft wasn't like an abusive husband I keep coming back to.

I just got Windows 7 a few months ago, the Professional edition which is supposedly being supported until 2020, so unless Windows 9 somehow redeems the.. whatever Windows 8 was, than I'll gladly stick with Windows 7 which I'm enjoying very fondly after upgrading from Vista. Should've upgraded sooner but I was too lazy to back up all my stuff until my computer literally gave up >.>

considering microsoft is determined to push the tablet interface on people ill be skipping windows 9 as well. hell if i didnt get a new pc id still be using xp

I've been using Windows 8 since it was in beta and never had an issue with it. Granted I'm a fairly computer savy person so I know how to modify the OS to be useable for me.

I would not recommended it for my mother or grandparents.

Maybe Windows 9 will be more layman friendly.

Fairwell Metro, you god awful attempt to tabletise a desktop OS.

A rememberance service will be held on July 10th 2015, starting at 10am. Guests are advised to bring a bottle, and that access to the dance dance revolution machine atop of the otherwise unmarked shallow grave will be limited to one muinite per person.

Maxtro:
I've been using Windows 8 since it was in beta and never had an issue with it. Granted I'm a fairly computer savy person so I know how to modify the OS to be usable for me.

I would not recommended it for my mother or grandparents.

Maybe Windows 9 will be more layman friendly.

The biggest irritation for me with Windows 8 was that functions were split between the Metro and classic sides of the OS.

For example managing user accounts. I could create an account in the Metro control panel but to delete it I had to go to the classic version.

wombat_of_war:
considering microsoft is determined to push the tablet interface on people ill be skipping windows 9 as well. hell if i didnt get a new pc id still be using xp

Considering that Windows 9 is still over a year out (and probably won't be out until at least Q3 2015), I think your judgment of the OS is a tad premature.

Still, a step back to a Windows 7-style interface would probably be a step in the right direction. While I can't call Metro a failure, the primary interface should have remained the button menu, especially since a lot of laptops, much less PCs, don't have the necessary touch interface to fully utilize the functions. Perhaps this really is just the even-numbered curse. It would make sense given the propensity for the odd numbered ones to essentially be what they promised the prior even number ones to be (remember Vista? I do).

I don't really see anything inherently wrong with Windows 8, it's just that it was made for TABLETS and basically told anyone without one to go fuck themselves.

But maybe they've learnt from their mistakes this time like they did with Vista.

I see Microsoft is attempting to imitate Activision's standard operating procedure. I wonder if they'll have the balls to actually start releasing an OS with minor UI changes every year. Linux and SteamOS is looking more attractive with each passing month.

I dearly hope that Microsoft goes 'back' and makes something more akin to Windows 7

Early in 2013 I worked a government IT job, and they were tearing their hair out in dispair because they were due for an OS upgrade across all the local departments where I worked.

But they really didn't want to touch Windows 8 - because it was such a radical departure from what everyone there was used to...

and not even everyone in the IT department there seemed able to figure out how to use Win8.

See, the issue was re-training: They'd need to spend an awful of government money on retraining quite a lot of workstation users to use win8.

I know it doesn't sound like that much, and I've seen and used win8 a little bit (Though I personally still run win7 on my computers) - but a lot of the people who worked there were blissfully computer illiterate, only able to use say one single program that was part of their daily routine. The UI changes that Win8 would introduce would freak them out like you wouldn't believe. Trust me, we tested it - it wasn't pretty.

i REALLY hope Windows 9, if they are making it, follows the pattern because i refuse to go with win 8 after trying to use that frustrating mess of OS. Why make that silly tablet metro when it's a step back in user friendly UI; i mean really, what is wrong to have the damn start button in the left corner of my screen and not been forced into another screen to play scavenger hunt.
Drop the tablet bullshit Microsoft and give us a PC OS.

webkilla:
I dearly hope that Microsoft goes 'back' and makes something more akin to Windows 7

Early in 2013 I worked a government IT job, and they were tearing their hair out in dispair because they were due for an OS upgrade across all the local departments where I worked.

But they really didn't want to touch Windows 8 - because it was such a radical departure from what everyone there was used to...

and not even everyone in the IT department there seemed able to figure out how to use Win8.

See, the issue was re-training: They'd need to spend an awful of government money on retraining quite a lot of workstation users to use win8.

I know it doesn't sound like that much, and I've seen and used win8 a little bit (Though I personally still run win7 on my computers) - but a lot of the people who worked there were blissfully computer illiterate, only able to use say one single program that was part of their daily routine. The UI changes that Win8 would introduce would freak them out like you wouldn't believe. Trust me, we tested it - it wasn't pretty.

It is Windows 8.2. They said it themselves. They want a SINGLE OS for all platforms. They are merging all the OSes together into one bloated OS.

Windows 9 is a continuation of Windows 8, and it will be Windows 8 because otherwise the Xbox One won't be the "one device you need."

It wont be the end all be all OS they so desperately wanted.

Windows is no longer the government or enterprise OS anymore. Its trying to be IOS so bad that its dumping its main money maker, Governments and business. The fact they refuse to cut the cord to mobile and xbox will sink Windows 9.

You can't have a single OS for EVERY device in the world and have it NOT be a bloated mess.

They are tying everything together. Whether you like it or not.

And I'll probably just keep using Seven.

sb666:
It will be interesting to see if it will follow this cycle.
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If it does, Microsoft should just start putting no effort into every second OS so a year after every terrible OS we get another good one.

For all the windows-haters, I have one word: Linux! ;)

More than half of my steam library is available on Linux now, and with valve working on the steambox thing, that ratio will likely increase. For the rest, there's wine.

A-D.:

sb666:
It will be interesting to see if it will follow this cycle.
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That picture is wrong, its missing Win98 Second Edition, Win NT 4.0 and Windows 2000, though the curve would still be correct for the most part.

That being said, it smells like another case of Vista to 7. So maybe Win9 will be the good Win8 essentially, like how 7 is essentially the good Vista version ;P

It also pegs 3.1 as good and 95 as bad. As someone who still periodically loads those two up in virtual machines (mainly for old Windows games that need 16 bit support), 95 was not bad at all. Yes, it was completely full of security holes, but it also came out at a time before the internet became ubiquitous, a time when files were more likely to be shared via floppy disk than modem. And from a user's perspective, 95 was a huge improvement over 3.1, which was really little more than a GUI that sat on top of DOS. 95 did a number of things that DOS couldn't, most notably from the perspective of a gamer, it introduced Direct X, which was a huge, huge thing. 3.1 mostly just made using a computer a bit more intuitive[1].

Basically, the "pattern" has only really existed since Vista turned out to suck, or since ME if you want to ignore that 2000 was a thing.

[1] It also wasn't the first version of Windows. As the number implies, there was a commercially released Windows 1, 2, and also something called Windows 386, which from what I understand was basically Windows 2 tweaked to better support the features of the then new and powerful Intel 386 processor. There's probably a few other variations I'm forgetting, not even counting stuff like 3.0 and 3.11.

Let's hope this new project of theirs is a continuation of the Metro thing and that they keep future versions of Windows as just windows, you know, with actual windows instead of apps. The two interfaces just didn't work together; Metro wasn't all that bad but it really didn't suit the PC environment. Best to keep it and 'desktop' (I think they call it now) separate from now on. As for me I'll likely be using Windows 7 for many a year to come, heck I was using XP until 2 years ago, and in many ways I preferred it to 7.

Windows 8 is an abomination. It's a foul, degenerate, putrid, cretinous operating system, created by people who had been so carried away with a concept that they never actually stopped to question whether it was actually usable. I get the feeling that Windows 8 was designed purely as an art project and not as an OS for people to actually use.
Every process now requires 1-3 extra clicks to enact. Even after 8 months of use, I still spend ages trying to work out where half of the applications are.

I remember when I first turned on my new laptop. I had been using Windows 7 on my desktop and was really happy with it. Windows 7 had streamlined so much and had created a beautiful, concise and fluid operating system.
My first day with Windows 8 was one of horror, confusion and disbelief. I just couldn't understand how we could go from Windows 7 to THIS. Microsoft said that people just needed to get used to the new system and new way of doing things and that they'd then appreciate it.
8 months later and I am used to the system, but I certainly do not appreciate it's backward, counter intuative system. Whoever headed the project should be severely reprimanded.
Microsoft fell into the trap of arrogance. They were too arrogant to care what the users wanted.

But why

I would still be using XP if i did not had to get a new computer to run new/weird games
The transparent windows are pretty funny, but there are several major problems with 7 i noticed alost instantly; GIFs do not work in the picture viewer, i can not center large pictures on my desktop and folders do not sort by date modified by default, also it seems like the new search does not search in words for letter sequences, only for separate words
The alt tab function having the desktop as a program does not seem like a very good idea, since, you know, that is what the windows button is for

The Gentleman:

wombat_of_war:
considering microsoft is determined to push the tablet interface on people ill be skipping windows 9 as well. hell if i didnt get a new pc id still be using xp

Considering that Windows 9 is still over a year out (and probably won't be out until at least Q3 2015), I think your judgment of the OS is a tad premature.

Still, a step back to a Windows 7-style interface would probably be a step in the right direction. While I can't call Metro a failure, the primary interface should have remained the button menu, especially since a lot of laptops, much less PCs, don't have the necessary touch interface to fully utilize the functions. Perhaps this really is just the even-numbered curse. It would make sense given the propensity for the odd numbered ones to essentially be what they promised the prior even number ones to be (remember Vista? I do).

Actually, they have admitted this will be the case.

http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-windows-threshold-2013-12

They aren't going to make desktop only OSes anymore. They want an all in one OS linking PC, mobile, and xbox.

I don't know what the hell Microsoft is thinking. Its trying to force popularity for no reason. "relevance" isn't what pays the bills. Youtube was relevant and it got bought out.

They have a strong lead in business and government function. Billions in profits.

Yet they will throw all of it away to try to be hip and cool.

The only analogy I can think of is a 45 year old billionaire burning his billions in a barrel, putting on a backwards snapback, sagging his pants, putting on a gold chain, and pretending he is a "hip modern teen" still in high school.

That is what Microsoft's PR has become. Try hard desperation to make people like them by catering to nonexistent or anachronistic stereotypes by emulation while burning away money. For no actual reason.

Oh look, another "Windows Cycle" circlejerk started by the very first reply. A.k.a. the new circlejerk people had to come up with only after their "XP will forever be the pinnacle of Windows" circlejerk was utterly shattered when even they had to grudgingly admit that Win7 was massively better.

Typical sweeping quantifications from the likes of folk who frequent internet forums and think they have the world all figured out and categorized through a pile of tabloid-worthy platitudes and supposed "patterns." It'd be adorable... if it weren't so infuriating!

*storms off*

I use a windows 7 partition with the basic GUI, it'll remain that way unless PC gaming goes windows 9.

Vicarious Reality:
But why

I would still be using XP if i did not had to get a new computer to run new/weird games
The transparent windows are pretty funny, but there are several major problems with 7 i noticed alost instantly; GIFs do not work in the picture viewer, i can not center large pictures on my desktop and folders do not sort by date modified by default, also it seems like the new search does not search in words for letter sequences, only for separate words
The alt tab function having the desktop as a program does not seem like a very good idea, since, you know, that is what the windows button is for

GIFs do work in the picture viewer, unless you mean animated GIFs specifically which do not and it is a bit annoying, but you can always open them in your browser of choice. You can even set the browser as the default viewer for GIFs very easily, something that was much harder in XP.

I can't comment on the centering of pictures as desktop backgrounds, as I've never wanted to do that.

I wouldn't find a default sort of Date Modified useful, and I can't really see why it would be useful as a default. Alphabetic is much more useful for actually finding things. In any case, I don't actually remember XP defaulting to modified date anyway...

I have just checked, and search definitely does return partial matches, even when you don't specifically ask for it with ? or * wildcards. e.g. searching for "Hel" got me "Hello World 1.bbp", "Hello World 2.bbp", "help.txt" and four other help files.

Personally I find using Alt-Tab to switch around between programs, including to the desktop, extremely useful. Conversely I hardly ever use the windows button, either to launch the start menu or to get me to the desktop (and depending on the program, the latter sometimes doesn't work anyway whereas it does with alt-tab).

So, really, the only problem you've described that I agree with is the GIFs, and even then it is easily worked-around, and frankly I would consider all of your gripes pretty minor. For my own part, I would never go back to XP. It's not awful, to be sure, but compared to Win7 there are a lot of common tasks that require more clicks, and not being able to pin to taskbar / search in the start menu is a definite pain.

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OT: Unless Win9 is the second coming of jesus (read: removes all that metro junk or at least integrates it properly) I'm not budging from Win7.

i wish i had a choice in using windows 8, i had to upgrade my computer and due to some hardware drivers not being compatible with anything but windows 8 (well played microsoft), ive been forced to use it. if windows 9 is at least more like 7 than it is 8, i might upgrade. although that wouldnt be hard to do, id even consider using vista if my drivers were compatible, i hate this metro ui to the point ive modded my laptop to the point i dont have to ever use it and it does nothing but use up resources in the background. isnt the resource issue something vista was hated for? you would think they wouldve learned that lesson but nope.

tl; dr windows 8 is so shit i consider vista an upgrade.

Wait! Windows 8 hasn't even really been out for even 5 years proper and they're already pushing an upgrade... screw you MS. You don't release an OS on such a quick cycle.. for god's sakes. If there was ever a reason to switch to Linux that's as good a reas on as any. Sure there are constant updates but it doesn't cost cash everytime.

Criticizing them for trying one OS for desktop, tablet and phone - come on you'd have to be a fool not to try surely? I can't believe Apple or Google aren't trying... not forgetting the Ubuntu phone. This is blatantly the smart direction for any OS manufacturer - like it or loath it, computing for the majority is moving away from a fixed workstation or desktop.

Anyway, the major changes (to a layman) are principally in design/interface issues - sure, these take some adjusting to, and personally it only really made sense once I had a touchscreen device, but it's alright without. Sure the app marketplace isn't as good yet, but you get windows for 'proper' desktop apps anyway, I don't really need or want to play Angry birds with WASD thanks. I've found Win8 / 8.1 to be pretty stable on the whole, even on a years old desktop I upgraded from XP, it boots up real fast. (Just to add I have used Win 7 also)

I will admit the business/organisation users case, they really always are the most reluctant to change anything and I can see it causing some headaches here. You've got Win7 until 2020 anyway. I always think personally I'd go with some kind of Linux if I had a business... workers will adjust to it, I don't want to hire anyone who can't make the leap from Microsoft Word to Open Office!

Finally, for 'power users' I would say - shut up and go Linux - and as I mentioned earlier, the likes of Ubuntu phone, SteamOS are making it even easier day by day for the general public.

I have Windows 7 and have no intention to switch things up unless it becomes mandatory for future gaming. Given the option, I'd gladly stick with Windows XP. The only feature in 7 that gets any use is the snap left snap right feature for convenience.

Maxtro:
I've been using Windows 8 since it was in beta and never had an issue with it. Granted I'm a fairly computer savy person so I know how to modify the OS to be useable for me.

I would not recommended it for my mother or grandparents.

Maybe Windows 9 will be more layman friendly.

One person is a very small sample size though. I work in IT part time and the ratio I see customers having problems with 8 and more specifically 8.1 as opposed to xp, vista, and 7 are at least a good 4:1 if not 5:1.

It is a very sloppy OS that favors connectivity and style over functionality. OS glitches are common with 8 and especially 8.1, program compatibility is horrid, and even the most basic functions such as powering off or connecting to wifi requires an extra click to three than its previous versions.

my take, Microsoft can unify the kernel and core components across everything from a $200 win phone to a $15000 gaming super-machine all they want, but adjust the UI for different sizes and inputs. windows already knows if your machine is touch enabled, where was the roadblock in using a win7 style menu interface on non-touch machines and only expose the tile UI and edge swipe gestures if it detects a touchscreen? would make more sense to me then trying to keep the UI the same on everything, usability be damned...

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