Major Nelson Says It's Time To End The Hate

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Major Nelson Says It's Time To End The Hate

John Lenno and Yoko Ono

Major Nelson says both Sony and Microsoft are going to sell a ton of consoles this generation, so maybe it's time to give peace a chance.

The PlayStation 4 outsold the Xbox One overall in 2013, but the NPD announced today that the Xbox One beat out the PS4 in the U.S. over the lucrative month of December. It's the sort of "win some, lose some" outcome that inspires no end of fanboy banter on forums across the internet, and while that sort of thing can be fun as long as nobody takes it too seriously, taking it too seriously is something a lot of people tend to do.

Fortunately for us all, there is a voice of reason out there and it comes from none other than Larry Hryb, better known as Major Nelson, Microsoft's point man for all things Xbox. "Both new platforms are off to a great start. We all should be celebrating a healthy vibrant industry," he wrote on Reddit last night. "Sony has done a good job and they should be commended. The hate that infects gaming in the online space needs to go away."

Refreshing, no? Not everyone was entirely convinced of the sincerity of his comments, but it's nice to see someone in a high place taking a very rational, "room-for-everyone" approach. "Sony will sell a ton. We will sell a ton," he added. "The industry is doing well... and consumers have choice."

Well said, Major.

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In other news, all professional sports teams are equally good and every religion is equally relevant to everyone.

Sorry, but you can't change human nature. And human nature tends towards aggressive herd mentality. The "hate" is how one group attempts to fool themselves into thinking their herd is better than the next.

When, in reality, people are stupid and regularly make bad choices.

Says the person currently selling less consoles. It's easy to declare a draw when you're already losing =D

Although seriously, yeah less hate is always cool. Console wars are only fun when no-one is being serious

*ignores own cynicism*

Nothing wrong with a bit of healthy competition, in any market. Honestly, I would have been disappointed had the Xbox One crashed and burned, even though I wouldn't buy one in a million years. One company getting too large a share of the market wouldn't benefit the consumer in the long run.

Oh, I don't hate you mate.

I just don't intend to buy anything from you any time soon.

Sure Microsoft and Sony was stoking the hate fire for good advertisement so they can sell as many consoles as possible and now after the initial release is done they want everyone to hold hands and get along.

This oddly strikes similar to candidates during election where before election day they trash and mud sling their opponents but once elections are done they want everyone to stop the pre-election aggression they started.

That's a lovely sentiment, but asking people to stop hating on the Internet is like asking a fish to stop swimming.

Zhukov:
Oh, I don't hate you mate.

I just don't intend to buy anything from you any time soon.

^ see this

Just because you are being thoughtful and gracious in your loss does not make me want to purchase your turd product.

I'm fine with peace, just as long as there's one console less. Preferably, the Xbox.

Andy Chalk:
and consumers have choice."

Well... he says that... it isn't much of a choice either way. Both consoles are almost identical to one another.

Andy Chalk:
"Both new platforms are off to a great start. We all should be celebrating a healthy vibrant industry,"

I'm sorry Larry, but a healthy AAA corporate bullshit industry is the last thing I want and I'm extremely disappointed that these new consoles are selling well.

I will keep right on hating both you and the folks securing platform exclusives for the Playstation.

Oh, well that's great. How come you didn't come to this conclusion sooner and try to ally with Sony. Your consoles are now near identical minus some horsepower. You could've made one console and sold at a break even or loss leader price so your customers wouldn't have you pay another $300-$500 dollars to play the few worthwhile exclusives that each console will get in its lifetime. Just shut up and get rid of that stupid camera that's making your box cost more than it's worth even if the xbox side had more exclusives worth checking out. I hate(hehe) this attempt to make people think Microsoft doesn't consider Sony an enemy. It's business, and in business you don't try to kill you enemy; you outdo them until they give up or run out of resources even if it never ends. Let's go back to acknowledging the opposition as opposition. Since we know that both are wolves who compete over the territory of our money, why bother with the sheep getup?

Pff. The day they genuinely respect (or gawd forbid, encourage) our property rights, I'll consider it.

I appreciate the sentiment, Major, but on the internet, it doesn't stand a chance of happening. A high amount of people feel the need to justify the big shiny box they just got and therefore rain hatred down on the other big shiny box.

My reason is that the Xbox One has more than one game

Before anyone jumps all over me, I did mean that as a joke

canadamus_prime:
That's a lovely sentiment, but asking people to stop hating on the Internet is like asking a fish to stop swimming.

Or better yet to ask Canadians to stop drinking Tim Hortons coffee LOL!

No. Fuck you sir. You don't get to hype your box through hundreds of millions of dollars of marketing hype, through all the petty bullshit you and your company pull to keep your herd of sheep subservient and dependent, then put the genie in the bottle. You are responsible for stirring people up the way they currently are. So fuck you, you fostered and nurtured this mindset, now you have to deal with it just like the rest of us.

Well, that's one rather interesting opinion, sir. Can I get Mike Nelson on the phone, see what he thinks?

NO, MIKE, NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

*World blows up!*

You know, I don't know why people even game anymore if they're just going to be cynical about everything.

Uhhhhh sorry nelson this is the world, and your console lost, and was also a shitty DRM-hub for a long time before you finally reversed that, and even now its still not that great of a console, sorry but the internet is not going to end the hate train because you said so, if anything you just stirred the hot coals and are now going to face even more hate after saying this

It's a bit ironic that Microsoft main PR guy starts saying "we should all get along guys!" after everything that has happened since the X1 was announced up until now (way too many to list).

I'll just stick on the sidelines as usual as a PC gamer and see this war unfold and continue until consoles will no longer exist and laughing for trying so hard to make their console reach standards of 4-5 years ago.

*flame shield on*

Slash2x:

Zhukov:
Oh, I don't hate you mate.

I just don't intend to buy anything from you any time soon.

^ see this

Just because you are being thoughtful and gracious in your loss does not make me want to purchase your turd product.

For me is the fact everything he had said about the Xbone was a god damned lie.

I'm not buying a console whose own spin doctors dont know what the fuck it's actually supposed to do.

Unless these brand new consoles are going to end this absurd cycle of complete creative bankruptcy that's plagued the mainstream gaming market for the better part of the last 6 years, then no, I'm not going to stop "hating" (that is, not buying a product for the purpose of self-inclusion in whatever happy circle-jerk MR. Nelson has imagined here. I have -some- standards.)

DarkhoIlow:
It's a bit ironic that Microsoft main PR guy starts saying "we should all get along guys!" after everything that has happened since the X1 was announced up until now (way too many to list).

I'll just stick on the sidelines as usual as a PC gamer and see this war unfold and continue until consoles will no longer exist and laughing for trying so hard to make their console reach standards of 4-5 years ago.

*flame shield on*

I'll join you on those sidelines. *adds to flame shield phalanx*
After the duplicity of the Xbone reveal and some self reflection, I'm perfectly fine not owning another console ever again.

It's impossible for me to take MR Nelson seriously as any sort of "voice of reason" when not even a year ago his own company was eager to bury the consumer in shady market-control bullshit.

thewatergamer:
Uhhhhh sorry nelson this is the world, and your console lost

The PS4 and Xbox One have been out for about 2 months.A bit early to be declaring a loser don't you think

Until Microsoft stops hating on PC gamers, Larry Hyrb can go stuff it. Seriously, it's like Microsoft refuses to acknowledge we exist after Games for Windows Live failed.

GundamSentinel:
*ignores own cynicism*

Nothing wrong with a bit of healthy competition, in any market. Honestly, I would have been disappointed had the Xbox One crashed and burned, even though I wouldn't buy one in a million years. One company getting too large a share of the market wouldn't benefit the consumer in the long run.

"One company getting too large a share of the market wouldn't benefit the consumer in the long run." That's exactly what most PlayStation fans want to happen. And for that matter, this same thing happened with Valve. They OWN gaming on PCs.

Zhukov:
Oh, I don't hate you mate.

I just don't intend to buy anything from you any time soon.

Pretty much this. I do hate what they wanted to do, though. And I'm not convinced they won't patch that back in at some point. A buddy of mine wants to wait at least a year for an Xbox One, for that very reason.

Also, Playstation has the games I am interested in and PS+ is worth it's weight in gold.

FalloutJack:
Well, that's one rather interesting opinion, sir. Can I get Mike Nelson on the phone, see what he thinks?

NO, MIKE, NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

*World blows up!*

When in doubt, MST3K has all the answers. And even when it doesn't, you still profit. Because MST3K!

GAunderrated:

This oddly strikes similar to candidates during election where before election day they trash and mud sling their opponents but once elections are done they want everyone to stop the pre-election aggression they started.

I'm reminded of when John McCain found himself having to backtrack because suddenly you had people shouting "kill him!" about Barack Obama and insisting that he was a Muslim terrorist or whatever.

Granted, I'm not sure anyone in the Microsoft camp has actually called for the death of Jack Tretton or anything like that, but still, your comparison seems pretty dead on.

Simalacrum:

Andy Chalk:
and consumers have choice."

Well... he says that... it isn't much of a choice either way. Both consoles are almost identical to one another.

and the political comparisons don't stop there.

But anyway....

canadamus_prime:
That's a lovely sentiment, but asking people to stop hating on the Internet is like asking a fish to stop swimming.

I think, like most political sentiments, this one is more a token consideration rather than any serious attempt. They court rabid fanboyism. Larry Hryb seems nicer than some, so maybe he somewhat means it, but he's still a corporate mouthpiece for a company that benefits from this fanboy rage, so I'm somewhat skeptical.

I'm looking forward to a statement from Microsoft.
"We do not agree with Major Nelson's statements, we prefer it when idiot fanboys froth at the mouth and battle endlessly in internet forums, so we've crucified him in front of our corporate headquarters. Please do not give him any water, he knows what he did."

If he doesn't want us to hate him so much, then he and microsoft should stop breaking wil wheaton's first law.

New PR strategy, hope it works for them but people should see it for what it is.

But what if this isn't fanboyism?

What if this is just actual hate because of your products, your marketing, and your customer tactics? Over your treatment of your customers, people who bought your products, and then afterwards you say 'Ok, I know what you bought our product for... but we don't want to support that any more. And not only do we not want to support that, we don't want you to even access it any more even though we don't really have anything to do with it once you downloaded it?'

What if it's the choices that you continually make that makes me feel what you're selling I want nothing to do with, even if I was a loyal customer (even with 4 xbox 360's that all RRoD'ed) before? Hey, you guys! Remember when Xbox had so much faith in their product that they would take back any Xbox 360 that RRoD'ed? And do you remember how many friends you made when you stood online at Best Buy and at least three other people at the time held their own 360's in their hands? Grand times. But you remember how quickly it took for Microsoft to change that policy because they were honestly losing money hand over fist? And then they just decided it would be better if we all just bought new ones when they broke? Great Tactic! If you have a shitty product... say tough shit, buy a new one! I love it!

Hate is Earned, Microsoft. As a customer that doesn't have a lot of money, I will do what I can to make sure other people don't get burned by your practices.

What can I say but "DEATH TO THE INDUSTRY!!!!!!!"

Come on, do you expect anything else of me at this point? You assclowns have lived long enough and have fucked us over for long enough, its about time you all died in some horrible fashion, hopefully in some way thats both humiliating and funny.

MetalDooley:

thewatergamer:
Uhhhhh sorry nelson this is the world, and your console lost

The PS4 and Xbox One have been out for about 2 months.A bit early to be declaring a loser don't you think

Sure but right now comparing the 2 PS4 has more sales, (even though I think the Wii-U did better than either)

don't really care about console wars, I just hate all the whining major nelson has done lately

TristanBelmont:

GundamSentinel:
*ignores own cynicism*

Nothing wrong with a bit of healthy competition, in any market. Honestly, I would have been disappointed had the Xbox One crashed and burned, even though I wouldn't buy one in a million years. One company getting too large a share of the market wouldn't benefit the consumer in the long run.

"One company getting too large a share of the market wouldn't benefit the consumer in the long run." That's exactly what most PlayStation fans want to happen. And for that matter, this same thing happened with Valve. They OWN gaming on PCs.

Valve has some competition, though its just as shit as they are. There's the terrible Origin and the even worse U(dont)play

Does anyone realize what this thread sounds like? Because it sounds like someone's little brother saying "he started it" after getting in trouble for a fight.

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