Quentin Tarantino Halts The Hateful Eight Over Script Leak

Quentin Tarantino Halts The Hateful Eight Over Script Leak

Quentin Tarantino's The Hateful Eight will probably become a novel before it hits the big screen thanks to a recent script leak.

Quentin Tarantino started his Hollywood career with hits like Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction, but these days he's getting more attention for his historical films. Inglorious Basterds and Django Unchained both received high critical praise, and fans were excited to learn that he would continue the trend with a traditional Western called The Hateful Eight. That's to say, he would have continued the trend, if the project wasn't shelved thanks to a recently leaked script.

"I finished a script, a first draft, and I didn't mean to shoot it until next winter, a year from now," Tarantino told Deadline. "I gave it to six people, and apparently it's gotten out today." Sometime after distributing the draft, Tarantino's agent began receiving calls from other agents, each one pitching clients for roles and naming details that could only have come from the script itself. Tarantino, who hoped to keep details under wraps, was furious.

"I gave it to one of the producers on Django Unchained, Reggie Hudlin, and he let an agent come to his house and read it," Tarantino continued. "That's a betrayal, but not crippling because the agent didn't end up with the script. There is an ugly maliciousness to the rest of it. I gave it to three actors: Michael Madsen, Bruce Dern, Tim Roth. The one I know didn't do this is Tim Roth. One of the others let their agent read it, and that agent has now passed it on to everyone in Hollywood. I don't know how these fucking agents work, but I'm not making this next ... I give it out to six people, and if I can't trust them to that degree, then I have no desire to make it."

In fairness, Tarantino isn't shelving The Hateful Eight because of the leak itself; drafts of Inglorious Basterds were available long before release as well. Tarantino is mostly feeling betrayed by colleagues he's worked with closely for past films, which has soured him for the entire project. So far, nobody has stepped forward to claim responsibility for the leak, and proving who did will be difficult since the script had no identifying watermark.

In the meantime, Tarantino has noted that The Hateful Eight may still be completed one day, but it is no longer his priority project. Instead, he is considering having it published as a novel, with the option of adapting to film at a later date.

Source: Deadline, via Bleeding Cool

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Honestly, I sometimes think that Tarantino is too much of a blowhard, and has an issue with PR due to interviewing like David Jaffe or CliffyB, but here, I am completely on his side, assuming he made sure that the people he gave copies of the script knew that it was for their eyes only.

Tarantino should have put a watermark on the script, but it's still a bit of a dick move to break a trust for the sake of publicity like that.

Well, sucks for him but for somebody who likes his movies but hates westerns (like me), this is very good news.

Damn, that really sucks :/ hopefully it still gets released in some form, I love Tarantino's stuff.

I am not really a fan of his, apparently he does these little nods to classic movies or movie techniques but I don't see any of that.

I like films based on how much they entertain me, his films just don't really entertain me.

That being said, the more people you share something with the more likely it is to be misused ... give it to as few people as possible and this wont happen.

To me this comes across as pompous and bratty, "somebody released my script, so I'm taking my ball home and doing something else!" ... man up and get on with it, drama queen.

Well his script wouldnt be all that surprising. Just lots of "nigger" and "mother fucker," rambling speeches about movie plus plenty of violence. The End. Amazing director but i think he isnt that great at dialogue - in every movie one character has to go on about movies, and i just roll my eyes. Anyway, im guessing his next movie will be a horror movie - he always said he wanted to make one. So maybe he will do that now.

omega 616:

That being said, the more people you share something with the more likely it is to be misused ... give it to as few people as possible and this wont happen.

I dunno, I'd say showing it to a total of 6 people is keeping it fairly well under wraps, especially when you've worked with all those people before, and think you can trust them.

I wonder who did it. My money is on Madsen.

As someone who had to keep himself away from things such as the leaked ending of ME3 and other such problems, I'm with Tarantino on this. Yes I like his movies, but when shit gets leaked and passed around it's annoying; especially in his case where he didn't have any plans yet and already getting calls about it.

I can totally understand where he's coming from. I sure as heck wouldn't want to work with people who showed they couldn't be trusted.

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I do respect his choice here on a lot of levels, and by deciding to release it in another form, he's going further than most would in letting us think about how it might have gone. One little thing that nags me, though, is that as much as I enjoy Tarantino's stuff, it's a little predictable. There'll be some fights/executions at the beginning, then putting together and going through with a big plan that manages to go wrong somewhere along the line, there'll be some moments of tension inside drawn-out conversations, and it'll all end in an enormous bloodbath. The specifics of how it goes down is what's interesting, the execution, and we won't really know much of that until it gets filmed.

But hey, if it's put him off the project, then it's best for everyone involved that he move on.

Covarr:
I can totally understand where he's coming from. I sure as heck wouldn't want to work with people who showed they couldn't be trusted.

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and on top of that didnt have the balls to come forward and say "yes i did it"

I saw this episode of entourage.

He totally Streisand'd this. I usually don't care when scripts leak, but considering the hissy fit he threw, i might just have to check it out. Hell, i doubt i would have ever heard about it until he said something.

i am in full agreement that leaking the script was a real dick move. and tarrantino is welcome to react this way I can't blame him. but it is unfortunate that the rest of us are going to be punished for this by not getting the movie. I respect his decision but it still bums me out all the same.

omega 616:
To me this comes across as pompous and bratty, "somebody released my script, so I'm taking my ball home and doing something else!" ... man up and get on with it, drama queen.

I would be pretty pissed of if people I thought I could trust betrayed me in the manner. In fact I would probably sever all contact with them.

Covarr:
I can totally understand where he's coming from. I sure as heck wouldn't want to work with people who showed they couldn't be trusted.

I agree. Trust is the basis of friendship. If I can't trust someone I won't work with them.

Nimcha:
Well, sucks for him but for somebody who likes his movies but hates westerns (like me), this is very good news.

Then you should be sad, this would've been the first western you would've liked :(

I don't like this, I saw a few days ago this about him starting to film a new movie, got excited, and now this is released :,(

Flames66:

omega 616:
To me this comes across as pompous and bratty, "somebody released my script, so I'm taking my ball home and doing something else!" ... man up and get on with it, drama queen.

I would be pretty pissed of if people I thought I could trust betrayed me in the manner. In fact I would probably sever all contact with them.

Covarr:
I can totally understand where he's coming from. I sure as heck wouldn't want to work with people who showed they couldn't be trusted.

I agree. Trust is the basis of friendship. If I can't trust someone I won't work with them.

Call me cynical or whatever but, if you trust somebody totally I think you're a bit of a fool.

If husbands and wives are cheating, doctors are killing patients and police abusing powers they have, then why would I trust people I've worked with before, even if I would call them friends?

Smiley Face:
I do respect his choice here on a lot of levels, and by deciding to release it in another form, he's going further than most would in letting us think about how it might have gone. One little thing that nags me, though, is that as much as I enjoy Tarantino's stuff, it's a little predictable. There'll be some fights/executions at the beginning, then putting together and going through with a big plan that manages to go wrong somewhere along the line, there'll be some moments of tension inside drawn-out conversations, and it'll all end in an enormous bloodbath. The specifics of how it goes down is what's interesting, the execution, and we won't really know much of that until it gets filmed.

But hey, if it's put him off the project, then it's best for everyone involved that he move on.

Don't forget Tarantino's cameo will end up getting killed. I mean I can't even think of a Tarantino movie where he doesn't get killed in.

tehroc:

Smiley Face:
I do respect his choice here on a lot of levels, and by deciding to release it in another form, he's going further than most would in letting us think about how it might have gone. One little thing that nags me, though, is that as much as I enjoy Tarantino's stuff, it's a little predictable. There'll be some fights/executions at the beginning, then putting together and going through with a big plan that manages to go wrong somewhere along the line, there'll be some moments of tension inside drawn-out conversations, and it'll all end in an enormous bloodbath. The specifics of how it goes down is what's interesting, the execution, and we won't really know much of that until it gets filmed.

But hey, if it's put him off the project, then it's best for everyone involved that he move on.

Don't forget Tarantino's cameo will end up getting killed. I mean I can't even think of a Tarantino movie where he doesn't get killed in.

Pulp Fiction.

There, your life is complete.

OT: I respect his view, especially if he was distributing the copy to people he thought he could trust and subsequently got shat on. I'm glad Tim Roth wasn't the culprit, I love the guy (still mad that Lie to Me* was cancelled, brilliant series). Putting money on Madsen might be a safe bet. But either way it was very uncool to drop his script to agents.

Surprising, Tarantino doesnt seem to get much love in the Escapist... Which is odd, you have a guy that makes different movies with his own style and you criticize him for what? having his own style? So you criticize Hollywood because its repetitive, and then when someone does something different you criticize him for having his own style.....

omega 616:

Flames66:

omega 616:
To me this comes across as pompous and bratty, "somebody released my script, so I'm taking my ball home and doing something else!" ... man up and get on with it, drama queen.

I would be pretty pissed of if people I thought I could trust betrayed me in the manner. In fact I would probably sever all contact with them.

Covarr:
I can totally understand where he's coming from. I sure as heck wouldn't want to work with people who showed they couldn't be trusted.

I agree. Trust is the basis of friendship. If I can't trust someone I won't work with them.

Call me cynical or whatever but, if you trust somebody totally I think you're a bit of a fool.

If husbands and wives are cheating, doctors are killing patients and police abusing powers they have, then why would I trust people I've worked with before, even if I would call them friends?

It seems we define friendship differently. If I don't trust someone, they are not my friend. If someone betrays my trust, they are no longer my friend.

Flames66:

omega 616:

Flames66:

I would be pretty pissed of if people I thought I could trust betrayed me in the manner. In fact I would probably sever all contact with them.

I agree. Trust is the basis of friendship. If I can't trust someone I won't work with them.

Call me cynical or whatever but, if you trust somebody totally I think you're a bit of a fool.

If husbands and wives are cheating, doctors are killing patients and police abusing powers they have, then why would I trust people I've worked with before, even if I would call them friends?

It seems we define friendship differently. If I don't trust someone, they are not my friend. If someone betrays my trust, they are no longer my friend.

Yeah, mine is a little more "somebody who hasn't stabbed me in the back yet".

Unless somebody is a bit of a dick then you get on with just about everybody, so friends are just accumulated like snow round a rolling rock. Then the inevitable back stab comes and you go your separate ways after a handful of weeks of unpleasantness. Then you make new friends and the cycle continues ...

Kind of a vicious cycle really.

reiniat:
Surprising, Tarantino doesnt seem to get much love in the Escapist... Which is odd, you have a guy that makes different movies with his own style and you criticize him for what? having his own style? So you criticize Hollywood because its repetitive, and then when someone does something different you criticize him for having his own style.....

For most people who criticize Tarantino, the problem isn't the fact that he has his own style. The issue they have is that he repeats that style in all of his movies. Think Bioware with characters. It's great if you like their characters, but if you don't, you'll run into trouble, since Bioware has a tendency to stick to templates in order to make their characters. They may warp the template a bit, and they definitely do a good job of making the characters developed rather than cardboard, but that doesn't change the fact that if you don't like, say, HK-47 in KOTOR (trust me, it is possible. I think. Maybe.), you aren't going to like Shale in Dragon Age, because they are almost identical.

In other words, "having your own style" is only the first step. The more important step is to make that style work. Maybe play with it a little, develop it. Tarantino really doesn't do that. He'll change settings, but all of his movies are painted with the same brush, so to speak. And if you don't like that brush, you aren't going to like Tarantino's movies.

omega 616:
Yeah, mine is a little more "somebody who hasn't stabbed me in the back yet".

Unless somebody is a bit of a dick then you get on with just about everybody, so friends are just accumulated like snow round a rolling rock. Then the inevitable back stab comes and you go your separate ways after a handful of weeks of unpleasantness. Then you make new friends and the cycle continues ...

Kind of a vicious cycle really.

Interesting world view. It does seem rather cynical to me, but then I suppose my approach of only counting a very few people I trust as friends could also be viewed as cynical. I suppose you have the advantage of betrayal being less damaging as you are already prepared for it.

Hope Tarantino changes his mind on this, I like his work and it'd be a shame to see the film get put down because of this.
And I doubt anyone will come forward with the leak, it could very well kill their career. Hollywood's all about who you know and Tarantino's a well respected and famous director, you don't want him damning you.
Also a couple people have said Madsen may have done it, but Tarantino says he gave it to 6 people while the article only mentions 4 (Roth, Madsen, Dern and Hudlin). I don't think Madsen did it, he was in Tarantino's early work, they've history and Tarantino wouldn't have given him an early script if there was bad blood. Maybe it was one of the unnamed people whoever they may be.
Anyway, hope Tarantino cools off and has a change of heart and decides to go ahead with the film anyway.

Bah, things like that are never that simple.

Maybe someone forgot their bag on the subway?
Or the nice cleaning lady noticed the script sitting on someone's desk?

Jumping from a leaked script to betrayal seems pretty irrational.

Ugh... that sucks.

I really don't blame him though. It's a real bummer to think that you can trust people with something. I've had to sign a bunch of NDA's and secrecy contracts working in this (film) industry, and it's never been an issue for me to keep my mouth shut. But it happens all the time. I can give you an example:

(Don't worry, the project is done, and the NDA is expired)

I was called on to play a soldier in August: Osage County. (I don't know if it's any good or not, as I haven't seen the film, nor do I have any idea of I'm in the final cut). The casting director called me the week before I was to be fitted (unusual because this type of communication typically happens over email) and tells me to be ready to go at a moment's notice. A few days later, he calls again and gives me a time and place. The time was later that day. A few days later I get another phone call with another time and and place, which I was to be at the next morning (the call was around midnight). This practice was done with every person on the set, and the location was still leaked. It doesn't bother me to keep secrets. I'm former military, so it's no big deal for me to operate in a world where you can say nothing about what you're actually doing. My family jokes that I actually work for the CIA.

Needless to say, some people just can't keep their mouths shut. And they really need to.

Especially if we're going to lose films like Hateful Eight. I was looking forward to that one.

Django was his best film in years, but I don't love him as a director. His style has kinda become a parody of itself, which generally makes for average films. Going through the back catalogue, I see more average than good.

thebobmaster:

For most people who criticize Tarantino, the problem isn't the fact that he has his own style. The issue they have is that he repeats that style in all of his movies.

In other words, "having your own style" is only the first step. The more important step is to make that style work. Maybe play with it a little, develop it. Tarantino really doesn't do that. He'll change settings, but all of his movies are painted with the same brush, so to speak. And if you don't like that brush, you aren't going to like Tarantino's movies.

I feel like it's getting more tiresome with time. His movies feature clever directing, intriguing casting choices, etc.., but not being a film studies or Hollywood buff, those things just don't interest me all that much. To me, his movies offer very little to treat the intellect, often going the opposite direction and pandering too hard (i.e. the director's puerile approaches to 'mature content'). The same goes for Robert Rodriguez and Eli Roth, who wouldn't have careers if audiences weren't addicted to pornographic nonsense. Thinking back on Tarantino's films, I feel like I might enjoy 'Jackie Brown' if I saw it again, but I could probably go the rest of my life without seeing any of the others.

Flames66:

omega 616:
Yeah, mine is a little more "somebody who hasn't stabbed me in the back yet".

Unless somebody is a bit of a dick then you get on with just about everybody, so friends are just accumulated like snow round a rolling rock. Then the inevitable back stab comes and you go your separate ways after a handful of weeks of unpleasantness. Then you make new friends and the cycle continues ...

Kind of a vicious cycle really.

Interesting world view. It does seem rather cynical to me, but then I suppose my approach of only counting a very few people I trust as friends could also be viewed as cynical. I suppose you have the advantage of betrayal being less damaging as you are already prepared for it.

I think overall I am at a disadvantage 'cos I have burned so many times in the past and it will be hard work for people to get close 'cos of that.

thebobmaster:
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If his movies feel like they're painted with the same brush that's because he's an artist with a unique style he chooses to work with... just like every other artist out there. That's why the term 'Tarantino film' exists, and the same goes for 'Kubrick film,' 'Hitchcock film,' 'Raimi film,' 'Refn film,' 'Lynch film,' 'Spielberg film,' et cetera. Beyond that, it's not fair to say his films are all exactly the same. Do they share motifs? Definitely, but all good autuer filmmakers have their own motifs, that's what makes them auters.

To use another example, it's not fair to chastise Jackson Pollock for choosing to work within the confines of abstract expressionism. It inspired him the most, so he chose to work with it.

 

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