PlayStation Now May Exclude PS1/PS2 Games, PS4 To Get Emulators

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PlayStation Now May Exclude PS1/PS2 Games, PS4 To Get Emulators

PlayStation Now announcement

Sources inside Sony say that PS1 and PS2 emulators are heading to the PS4 and will be equipped with native HD upscaling.

Arguably one of the most exciting recent PlayStation announcements was the CES reveal of PlayStation Now, a planned streaming service that will make older PlayStation games accessible to platforms including PlayStation consoles, tablets, smartphones and TVs. At its initial announcement, many assumed that PlayStation games from across numerous generations would be included in the service. According to apparent sources inside Sony however, Now will only include more recent PS3 games.

The emergent question, of course, is what the company plans to do with its extensive library of PS1 and PS2 titles going forward. Those same sources, in turn, suggest that Sony is planning to update the PS4 with new emulators that would allow for PS1 and PS2 titles, disc-based and digital, to be played on the console. The emulators in question will apparently also include enhanced visuals that would provide native HD resolution similar to those found in PS3 HD collections. This would be a significant upgrade over the upscaling on the PS3 which was, at times, less than perfect.

While this move could upset PlayStation fans looking forward to a Now library including more than just PS3 games, it would arguably make sense for the company in some ways. For instance, PS4 emulator options would make it possible for Sony to keep selling its older titles as individual downloads, which we can only imagine is lucrative. All of that said, it's important to remember that none of this has been confirmed by Sony itself and that it could all turn out to be hogwash. Even so, we have to say that we can think of far worse things than having an emulator-equipped PS4, even if it does mean a lesser PlayStation Now.

Source: Eurogamer

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What about if you still own disc copies of the games? If its an emulator, it should be able to read discs just fine, after all.

I would be so freaking hyped for this if they worked with discs too. It might actually make me buy a PS4 earlier instead of after year or so.

There are just still so many good PS2 games, and I already own a lot of them but my PS2 is basically broken. It would be worth getting a PS4 just for access to some of those titles

TitusGroan:
What about if you still own disc copies of the games? If its an emulator, it should be able to read discs just fine, after all.

Disc-based software too, to my understanding. Sorry if that was unclear.

Well, if that actually happened with physical disc support then i would be head over heels for a PS4.

Even though id probably only use it to play Okami. Again.

Sounds good, but at the same time it makes me wonder if this means all that money dished out for a PS-4 is wasted, because I'm going to want to ditch the new console I just obtained for one with an included emulator... or if the emulator is going to be some kind of attachment that can be added to an existing PS-4 system.

Needless to say I'm going to be rather upset if I bought a PS-4 believing the announcement that it was not going to be backwards compatible, only to get some Sony trollface as they change their mind and roll out a new one that does what the one I just bought arguably should have to begin with.

IF it's for disc based, my collection of 500 or so PS2 games would be very happy.

IF it's not, meh.

Therumancer:
Sounds good, but at the same time it makes me wonder if this means all that money dished out for a PS-4 is wasted, because I'm going to want to ditch the new console I just obtained for one with an included emulator... or if the emulator is going to be some kind of attachment that can be added to an existing PS-4 system.

Needless to say I'm going to be rather upset if I bought a PS-4 believing the announcement that it was not going to be backwards compatible, only to get some Sony trollface as they change their mind and roll out a new one that does what the one I just bought arguably should have to begin with.

Emulators are software, so they should be able to add it via update. Whether you'd have to pay for it or not, though...

I'm surprised a PS1 emulator wasn't already included, honestly. This means that the PS4 is currently the only Playstation that can't play PS1 games.

Still, if this is true and it includes discs, then that means that the PS4 is gonna be compatible with the whole PS2 library; that's a hell of an advantage. I'm still discovering brilliant games for that system to this day.

I don't own any of this gen of consoles, and I didn't own any of the last gen either. But I know I've missed out on the greatness of the PS2 and miss a lot of games I played back on the PS1. If this happens I will actually buy a PS4. I had no plans to do so up until now..

Sold! I still own my favorite PS1 and PS2 games, most on disc. Native HD upscaling is awesome as well. I really loved FF12, but since my PS2 broke, I have been stuck relying on a PC emulator which upscales it beautifully. Awesome. I'll keep an eye on this.

Well, if this is true than Yahtzee's "But it doesn't justify buying a next generation console without backwards compatibility" (or whatever it was) is mute for PS4 at least. Good for Sony.

Oh, well look who comes to their senses at last. Lemme tell ya, Sony, just because I like you doesn't mean I like everything you do. NOT having backwards compatibility was a bad move. So glad to hear you're 180-ing on the matter.

Woo! I gave my aging PS2 to my little sister a long time ago, but I still kept my favorite PS1/PS2 games. I already purchased a PS4 so this is just gravy if it ends up being true.

Software emulators, or a more expensive model of the PS4 to be released at a later date?

If it's software, excuse me while I spend this generation lovingly caressing my PlayStation 4.

ScrabbitRabbit:

Therumancer:
Sounds good, but at the same time it makes me wonder if this means all that money dished out for a PS-4 is wasted, because I'm going to want to ditch the new console I just obtained for one with an included emulator... or if the emulator is going to be some kind of attachment that can be added to an existing PS-4 system.

Needless to say I'm going to be rather upset if I bought a PS-4 believing the announcement that it was not going to be backwards compatible, only to get some Sony trollface as they change their mind and roll out a new one that does what the one I just bought arguably should have to begin with.

Emulators are software, so they should be able to add it via update. Whether you'd have to pay for it or not, though...

I'm surprised a PS1 emulator wasn't already included, honestly. This means that the PS4 is currently the only Playstation that can't play PS1 games.

Still, if this is true and it includes discs, then that means that the PS4 is gonna be compatible with the whole PS2 library; that's a hell of an advantage. I'm still discovering brilliant games for that system to this day.

Well, the thing is that Sony already claimed that the problems are hardware related as opposed to software related and that they would allegedly have to include the hardware from all their other machines within the new system in order to make this work. Many defenses of the lack of backwards compatibility have invoked this alleged "fact".

I also look back at things like the dear, departed "Bleem" where they made adaptors that could allow you to play games from one company on a system owned by another (and got slammed hard for it back in the day). Something that also makes me think that this is probably going to be hardware related, either requiring a new system, or purchasing an adaptor to plug into your existing system.

Time will tell of course, it just seems like odd news given everything else that was said on the subject.

Wow would buy the PS4 just for that. There are so many playstation titles from the last 2 generations that I have been interested in.

Please make it happen

Therumancer:

Well, the thing is that Sony already claimed that the problems are hardware related as opposed to software related and that they would allegedly have to include the hardware from all their other machines within the new system in order to make this work. Many defenses of the lack of backwards compatibility have invoked this alleged "fact".

I also look back at things like the dear, departed "Bleem" where they made adaptors that could allow you to play games from one company on a system owned by another (and got slammed hard for it back in the day). Something that also makes me think that this is probably going to be hardware related, either requiring a new system, or purchasing an adaptor to plug into your existing system.

Time will tell of course, it just seems like odd news given everything else that was said on the subject.

That's only for the PS3, which is stupidly difficult to emulate and would require an incredibly powerful machine both due to its weird architecture and higher CPU clock speed relative to the PS4. Plus PS1 compatibility on the PS3 was already the work of an emulator.

IIRC, Bleem also worked by loading custom software. Pre-Xbox consoles had virtually no internal storage, so you couldn't have a downloadable emulator on them, really. Besides, getting unlicensed third party software onto consoles is hard, even now, so I imagine that's the main reason Bleem was hardware.

PS1 and 2 x86 software emulators are already available and work on hardware that is less powerful than the PS4, so we know that it's possible. Given that Sony should know its own consoles better than bedroom coders do, we can safely assume that the emulation will be even more efficient.

As much as I think this is a great idea, I must admit I hardly play anything older than the last generation and when I do I usually lose interest as the games tend to not hold up as well as I remembered. On the plus side it would give me a chance to play games I've missed out on in previous gens. I still own a PS1 and PS2, but getting the discs these days is like treasure hunting.

Anyhow, colour me impressed.

Therumancer:

Well, the thing is that Sony already claimed that the problems are hardware related as opposed to software related and that they would allegedly have to include the hardware from all their other machines within the new system in order to make this work. Many defenses of the lack of backwards compatibility have invoked this alleged "fact".

I also look back at things like the dear, departed "Bleem" where they made adaptors that could allow you to play games from one company on a system owned by another (and got slammed hard for it back in the day). Something that also makes me think that this is probably going to be hardware related, either requiring a new system, or purchasing an adaptor to plug into your existing system.

Time will tell of course, it just seems like odd news given everything else that was said on the subject.

Backwards compatibility is a pretty vague thing to talk about though without specifics, especially coming from Sony. If they were talking about backwards compatibility for PS3 games, they're still correct and probably will be forever. That console will be nigh impossible to emulate. But most of us already knew that great PS1 emulators are around and good PS2 emulators are available. Sony taking emulators that already exist and perfecting it before putting it in the PS4 isn't out of the question.

Something else to remember. People have seen the PS4 hardware from all angles, and on the motherboard there's a chip/processor that to this day no one really know what it does. Whatever that mystery chip is on the PS4 board, it could be linked to this as well, but everything is just speculation right now.

I will be very happy if the PS4 gets emulation for PS1 and 2 titles, especially if discs work as well. Come on, Sony, don't shoot this rumor down.

The big question is: if they DO emulate older titles, will they also be region free? If Sony announces this, no joke, I will pack up my PS2 and JPS2 into storage next to my original grey playstion, walk into town and buy a PS4 the very next day.

I was planning on getting one at the end of the year/next years January's sales anyway, but being able to clear up the space beneath my tv is a big draw.

If they make my PS1 and PS2 library compatible with the PS4 then I'll go buy one as soon as it happens.

So your saying they might implement the same thing I've been doing on my PC for the past couple years. Its amazing what running at triple or quadruple native ps2 resolution with some smoothing will do to an older game. After I discovered emulation my PS2 has been permanently gathering dust.

I have like five PS2 games but this still brings a smile to my face. I feel like Sony is really GETTING it.

PS2 disc based emulator. Yes please, Sony if you let me have this and it works at least as good as my PS2 did, I won't be able to throw money at you fast enough. The PS2 is my favorite generation and my giant backlog of yet unplayed games is screaming for it.

Ps1 emulation is icing on the cake.

Honestly I'm not surprised, heck I expected it would happen since the PS1 and 2 could already be emulated on PC and PS3 (I have a launch PS3 which is backwards compatible via emulation). Seems like Sony simply put it into the after launch pile, possibly due to the need to get it out last year due to the XBO. Can't blame them as emulation can be a lot of work and they have to get it right first go. I hope this rumor turns out to be true, my PS4 is good but lacks enough games to play (and I have all launch games on it that I'm interested in, no BF4/CoD though), so being able to use my large stack of PS1/2 games that still make my PS3 collection look small would be a good boost to the system.

If this is disc-based and region free then it will definitely get me, and a whole lot of other people, to buy a PS4 in a heart beat. Thing is, Nintendo can do the same thing since the only thing stopping the Wii U from playing GameCube games is that the OS blocks them because there is no place to plug in a GCN controller.

If this is true, they better not retract the disk-based portion. I'd buy Rogue Galaxy online just to play it, but I'm not spending more money on games I've owned since 2007 to play GoW or FFXII. I'd like to put my PS2 in helium/argon storage, but I'm not giving Sony more money so I don't have to dig through my closet to bust out Vice City again, HD upscaling be damned.

This made me immediately warm up to the idea of buying a PS4. Then I remembered I have a first generation PS3 now so it really doesn't matter.

If this turns out to be true then I guess it can go on the list of pro's for buying a PS4, but that list is still pretty baron at the moment.

Digimon World 1 or im out.

Jokes aside, i hope this is true, would love to play some older titles on the PS4

So, yet again Sony makes many promises and then several months later after they "win" proceed go back on their world.

Sony you sly devil you, the masses followed your devilish ploy yet again without realizing the inevitable pattern.

oh man, if this turns out to be true, I'm going to be VERY happy. There a bunch of PS2 games I've been wanting to play, but since my PS3 isn't backwards compatible, this would be a great incentive to buy a PS4.

If this is true and Sony pulls it off and I can play Suikoden II again, the .Hack series, and countless other games, then I will get a PS4 right away. The only thing that is stopping me from getting the system is a lack of games, but if I can go in with a library already and just wait for games to come out, I will be sold. I hope this is true.

-Double post, I don't know how this happened, I'm sorry-

BrotherRool:
I would be so freaking hyped for this if they worked with discs too. It might actually make me buy a PS4 earlier instead of after year or so.

There are just still so many good PS2 games, and I already own a lot of them but my PS2 is basically broken. It would be worth getting a PS4 just for access to some of those titles

Yes this, my PS2 also works half-heartetly (the controller port is broken, so the thing constantly tells me to plug the controller back in)

Sony, I know you are reading this. If you do this, I will get a PS4 ASAP

(I know that I could just get a used ps2, but what do if that thing dies, also I want a PS4, just all the bullshit around the new generation keeps me from getting one, but the posibility of a new console with backwards compatibility to games like God Hand, Black and Burnout 3 sounds really nice)

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