New Fate/Stay Night Anime Coming This Fall, More "Serious" Tone

New Fate/Stay Night Anime Coming This Fall, More "Serious" Tone

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The next Fate/Stay Night anime will be more alike in tone to Ufotable's Fate/Zero.

Ufotable will animate the next animated series of Fate/Stay Night based on the Japanese visual novel series by Type-Moon. The next television anime series will air this fall.

Fate/Stay Night was the first anime adaptation in the series, produced in 2006 by Studio DEEN, who also produced the Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works film in 2010. Ufotable took over animation of the Fate/Zero prequel anime series based on Gen Urobuchi and Type-Moon's novel. Ufotable's founder Hikaru Kondo previously announced last July that the studio would be making another Fate/Stay Night project, but he did not specify what format it would be or if it would be a remake. Takahiro Miura, director for Fate/Zero will also direct the new anime.

Ufotable stated it would continue to move its adaptation of Fate/Stay Night in a more serious direction similar to Fate/Zero, according to an interview in Type-Moon Ace magazine. The scenario for the series is halfway finished and work has begun on several episodes. The original writer for Fate/Stay Night, Kinoko Nasu, is present every time the scenario writers meet as the production staff for the new anime hopes to preserve the feel of Fate/Stay Night as much as possible. Nasu provides background information that wasn't included in the original, which ufotable plans to incorporate. Rumors suggest Nasu has written an original route for the series, but this has not been confirmed.

Ufotable also mentioned it wants to "properly write Shirou Emiya as a protagonist," who serves as the protagonist of Fate/Stay Night but not Fate/Zero. Shirou, Rin, and Saber will all have new outfits.

A website for the anime opened in December with a teaser video.

Source: Anime News Network, Siliconera

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Whoa, anime news. And not just any anime either. Cool.

I'm still hoping they adapt the Heaven's Feel route from the original VN. Might be just a little *too* serious, but considering Fate/Zero's depressing tone, there's some hope. I'll love them forever if they do.

Hmm... wonder if there's any interest in visual novels on this site...

Ilya route. Calling it now. Or at least hoping for it.

Honestly, I'm glad they decided to create a new story. Sakura's appearance in Fate/Zero would've mandated Heaven's Feel, which wouldn't have made a good anime. Yes, the final parts are epic, but before that there's too much sitting around the house doing nothing but talking.

Wait wait wait.....so what you're saying is........new outfits?

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The problem with F/SN wasn't it's lack of "seriousness", but that it's directing and production values sucked.

In fact, I would guess that in the original report the seriousness referred to it being a more serious member of the Fate/ franchise, as opposed to the whacky comedy spinoffs.

Soo... no Taiga Dojo in this anime then? Or Taiga at all really. She does not belong in a serious anime.
Thats too bad, if you ask me. I can't stand an anime that's all super serious. I need a little bit of levity in everything I watch. Guess I'll just have to stick with Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya then.

EyeReaper:
Soo... no Taiga Dojo in this anime then? Or Taiga at all really. She does not belong in a serious anime.
Thats too bad, if you ask me. I can't stand an anime that's all super serious. I need a little bit of levity in everything I watch. Guess I'll just have to stick with Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya then.

Comedy always has a place in more serious works. It wouldn't be a smartly written drama without something to contrast it.

EyeReaper:
Soo... no Taiga Dojo in this anime then? Or Taiga at all really. She does not belong in a serious anime.
Thats too bad, if you ask me. I can't stand an anime that's all super serious. I need a little bit of levity in everything I watch. Guess I'll just have to stick with Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya then.

Well, if it's maintaining the tone of Fate/Zero, that doesn't mean no humor whatsoever. Fate/Zero had some humorous elements, mostly Iskander being awesome and doing his thing. It just means no more crazy inflated Taiga heads...and I'm not sure if I'm gonna miss those, to be honest.

I am so ready for this, Ufotable's animation is absolutely insane, and if they somehow (through dark magic, most likely) make Shirou less of a shithead, Fate/Stay Night could reach its, dare I say it, TRUE POTENTIAL!

I don't know why they're going for a 'super serious' tone considering that Fate/Stay Night itself is actually pretty comical at times. It's just like any anime you've ever seen - some comic relief to break up the tension. Even Attack on Titan has the occasional humor and I feel like that show was about as serious as most anime gets. Frankly, if drama equal to Fate/Zero is what they want to go for, they should really adapt the Heaven's Feel story. With some clever editing, it'd be pretty easy to adapt. Unlimited Blade Works will always be my favorite route, but Heaven's Feel is epic compared to the anime, which followed the Fate route.

As far as altering personalities go, I'm up for it as long as all they do is make Shirou less of a sexist goober. I'm also not one of those people that cares about new costumes, so go nuts. I just hope they don't remake the first series. If this 'original route' is the Ilya route that Nasu never got to finish, I'd be thrilled.

EDIT: After having watched the teaser trailer, it's looking more and more like it's simply a remake of the Fate route which the original series followed. But it's just a teaser trailer, so who knows.

The prophecies were true! Could it be... the fabled Ilya route?!

But yeah there's pretty much no way I won't watch the hell out of this. My only hope is that it is either UBW or a brand new route. Heaven's Feel is the worst possible way to tie up the plots left unfinished in Zero.

CJ1145:
The prophecies were true! Could it be... the fabled Ilya route?!

But yeah there's pretty much no way I won't watch the hell out of this. My only hope is that it is either UBW or a brand new route. Heaven's Feel is the worst possible way to tie up the plots left unfinished in Zero.

Heaven's Feel is THE ONLY way to tie up the plots left unfinished in Zero. There's a ton of stuff in Fate/Zero that just goes nowhere in Fate and UBW. For example,

That said, it isn't perfect, even if what they're going for is "Fate/Stay Night as a sequel to Fate/Zero". There's certainly less lern2play in HF than in Fate or UBW, and the tone and themes are more consistant, but there are also a lot of things that are set up in Fate and UBW for Heaven's Feel to twist. Shirou's story definitely loses something if it doesn't go through Fate and UBW first, and I'm not sure if Saber's story in HF works as a continuation of her story in Fate/Zero.

I'd rather have Shirou as he is now rather than him being all hard-boiled and serious like his adopted father. One of the less desirable aspects of Fate/Zero for me was Emiya Kiritsugu; there was nothing likable or relatable about him at all. It wouldn't have been an issue if he hadn't been the main character but unfortunately he was and Shirou is too. Seeing as how Gen Urobuchi isn't doing the writing I am hopeful but if they took cues from how they handled Emiya I'm going to be disappointed.

But production value and cool fights blah blah blah.

Charmille:
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They're not popular in the general community, unless we're talking about Katawa Shoujo, but there is a sizable and active user group dedicated to them.

As long as they don't make it as mind numbing as Fate Zero this is great news.

Sheo_Dagana:
EDIT: After having watched the teaser trailer, it's looking more and more like it's simply a remake of the Fate route which the original series followed. But it's just a teaser trailer, so who knows.

I can't see the trailer right now, but if it's the same one I've seen before, it's mostly composed of scenes from the opening videos for Fate, UBW, and HF from the PS Vita remake of Fate/Stay Night: Realta Nua, which ufotable did the animation for. There are like three new bits of animation right at the end, from scenes common to all three routes.

By the way, if you haven't seen the Vita openings before, look them up on Youtube. It's impossible to find them in not-shit quality, but they blow the old openings off the fucking planet.

Nouw:
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Man, Kiritsugu was badass incarnate and a total opposite of Shirou who just seemed like a spineless wannabe paladin on his way to massive cliche character development.

Heaven's Feel is in a way about Shirou becoming more and more like his foster father, and eventually avoiding that (unless you hit a particular bad end) so I wouldn't worry too much about it in the end.

And yeah I just discovered the VN usergroup, didn't know there was such an active community here (however small).

So... not the rumored Heaven's Feel? Anyway, I'll still watch it. Especially if Ufotable gives Ea its due like Zero.

Fleaman:

CJ1145:
The prophecies were true! Could it be... the fabled Ilya route?!

But yeah there's pretty much no way I won't watch the hell out of this. My only hope is that it is either UBW or a brand new route. Heaven's Feel is the worst possible way to tie up the plots left unfinished in Zero.

Heaven's Feel is THE ONLY way to tie up the plots left unfinished in Zero. There's a ton of stuff in Fate/Zero that just goes nowhere in Fate and UBW. For example,

That said, it isn't perfect, even if what they're going for is "Fate/Stay Night as a sequel to Fate/Zero". There's certainly less lern2play in HF than in Fate or UBW, and the tone and themes are more consistant, but there are also a lot of things that are set up in Fate and UBW for Heaven's Feel to twist. Shirou's story definitely loses something if it doesn't go through Fate and UBW first, and I'm not sure if Saber's story in HF works as a continuation of her story in Fate/Zero.

Yeah, I wouldn't mind them shoving something to do with Sakura into a UBW adaptation just for closure's sake. But she really made HF such a chore to get through for me. Especially the maelstrom of miscommunication between her, Rin and Shirou. But so much gets lost in an HF adaptation. Saber's story gets a pointless and nonsensical bad end, absolutely nothing is explored with Gilgamesh and his survival of the 4th War, the conflict with Rin and Kirei is glossed over for the conflict with him and Shirou, which frankly we got plenty of in Zero. Heroic Spirit Emiya gets sidelined, and very little of Shirou's actual motivation for being a hero is explored, opting to drop it all because he wants up Sakura's skirt. The most damning though is that the final scene of Zero with Kiritsugu passing on his ideal and dying happily becomes pointless and very nearly invalidates everything that happened relating to him, Iri, and Saber in the 4th War.

Maybe this is why we need a brand new route though. Adapting any of the three will leave out something of worth, since they're meant to be read together, one after the other. Hopefully Nasu can help make a version of Fate that stands on its own.

A close friend of mine is a total FSN fan to the point where he has a mousemat and 3 tall glass cabinets with variations of Saber in them.

I don't really have an interest in the show and I've tried (even my friend tried so hard but in the end it didn't even matter, maybe because of how they portray the reincarnation of King Arthur (He was male in actual history and I'd rather it stay that way).

Shadow-Phoenix:

I don't really have an interest in the show and I've tried (even my friend tried so hard but in the end it didn't even matter, maybe because of how they portray the reincarnation of King Arthur (He was male in actual history and I'd rather it stay that way).

While I enjoyed the show (first part, going to see the F/N sequel soon), How they made King Arthur a female for the sake of having a female really bothered me. Its still a good show and I 'll probably watch it to the end, but I kinda wish either they kept it to history and made King Arthur a male, or have saber be King Arthur's wife or daughter.

Unlike you guys I really hope it's not Heaven's Feel. That route was a load of arse.
My guess it they'd say if it was anyone, this is probably a new plotline, hopefully one without Sakura.

Also everyone pissed about female King Arthur; dude was a fictional king, at least almost everything we know about him is fictional. They can do whatever they want with the character as long as it's interesting, which Saber is.

InfinityX:

Shadow-Phoenix:

I don't really have an interest in the show and I've tried (even my friend tried so hard but in the end it didn't even matter, maybe because of how they portray the reincarnation of King Arthur (He was male in actual history and I'd rather it stay that way).

While I enjoyed the show (first part, going to see the F/N sequel soon), How they made King Arthur a female for the sake of having a female really bothered me. Its still a good show and I 'll probably watch it to the end, but I kinda wish either they kept it to history and made King Arthur a male, or have saber be King Arthur's wife or daughter.

It's why I loved Saint Young men, they kept Jesus as Jesus and Buddha as bbuddah (albeit buddha wasn't a single person XD)and I thoroughly enjoyed the show and the two mens antics.

It's just with me, if a show decides to copy someone from history and decides to make them the opposite of what they are I can't help but feel irked and uninterested.

Shadow-Phoenix:

It's why I loved Saint Young men, they kept Jesus as Jesus and Buddha as bbuddah (albeit buddha wasn't a single person XD)and I thoroughly enjoyed the show and the two mens antics.

It's just with me, if a show decides to copy someone from history and decides to make them the opposite of what they are I can't help but feel irked and uninterested.

Agreed, Its still a very good show and as I said, I plan to watch the new series, Saber just felt odd and out of place, I couldn't take her seriously. What really kept me interested was the other characters, like Rider's personallity and Kariya Matō (Beserker's master)as well as the main plot. Its just Saber herself just felt flat and unintersting until the end of the first show.

Gabanuka:
Unlike you guys I really hope it's not Heaven's Feel. That route was a load of arse.
My guess it they'd say if it was anyone, this is probably a new plotline, hopefully one without Sakura.

Also everyone pissed about female King Arthur; dude was a fictional king, at least almost everything we know about him is fictional. They can do whatever they want with the character as long as it's interesting, which Saber is.

"Pissed" isnt the word I would use. Maybe unsatisfied for just making a gender-swapped character without adding to it, but I'm not mad per-say at the creators for making saber a female Arthur. I'm just saying that there are much better candidates for a good female role/hero then taking one that has been written and established (also generally accepted) as a male lead, and gender swapping. I felt it took more away then it added.

for some examples off the top of my head:

Queen Elisabeth
King Arthur's wife/daughter
Joan de Arc
Madien of the mist (from the same King Arthur legend)
Cleopatra

and I'm sure I can get much more if I looked around.

Lastly, Addressing you final point, I think its more of a preference. I though Saber's character (aside from being female) was the 2nd least interesting character (Assassin takes the lead for not having any). Rider was my favorite, though the interaction of Archer and Kirei with the grail, and the story with Kariya Matō was really good too, wish it ended better for him though.

Point is, You may of found Saber's character interesting, while nothing wrong with it, but I found it bland, mixed with the odd and not very strong choice of making saber a gender-swapped King Arthur for little reason.
(though it would make a much better possible story if Saber was instead the wife/daughter and berserk was a "fallen" King Arthur, that would be pretty cool, but that's just me).

InfinityX:

Queen Elisabeth
King Arthur's wife/daughter
Joan de Arc
Madien of the mist (from the same King Arthur legend)
Cleopatra

Problem aside from Joan de Arc (who is in Fate/Apocrypha) none of those fit the criteria of 'noble and honourable knight Servant who can also be a love interest'

Elisabeth didn't fight and when dealing with a historical figure we know so much about that would feel weirder (see Nero in Fate/Extra.

I dont remember much about Arthur's wife but there's no way she could have been made a Servant, she didn't do anything. Same with the Lady of the Lake, she was a moistened bint who lobbed a scimitar.

Cleo could work but she wouldn't match Saber class. Also I don't think she would match Shirou's personality; he needs a ultimate good, Cleopatra was a bit of a bitch really.

There are very few women in myth, its a sad truth but them's the breaks. I feel the gender swap was a valid choice, I know its opinion but I just thought I would say

Gabanuka:

Problem aside from Joan de Arc (who is in Fate/Apocrypha) none of those fit the criteria of 'noble and honourable knight Servant who can also be a love interest'

Elisabeth didn't fight and when dealing with a historical figure we know so much about that would feel weirder (see Nero in Fate/Extra.

I dont remember much about Arthur's wife but there's no way she could have been made a Servant, she didn't do anything. Same with the Lady of the Lake, she was a moistened bint who lobbed a scimitar.

Cleo could work but she wouldn't match Saber class. Also I don't think she would match Shirou's personality; he needs a ultimate good, Cleopatra was a bit of a bitch really.

There are very few women in myth, its a sad truth but them's the breaks. I feel the gender swap was a valid choice, I know its opinion but I just thought I would say

oh, Joan is shown, didn't know that. I'm still yet to see the others shows lol.

Elisabeth would be odd to do as well, at least, not for a saber class. Though Im no history major, didnt she have a sister or relative that she de-throne and put into jail? I know one Queen did that, would make a good Beserker/Saber mix there.

I don't think Arthur's wife (if he even had one) was mentioned at all, but I would think that would be better cause there is more shape to the character that could be created. Same with a daughter

I heard something Like the lady of the lake (or madien of the mist) gave Arthur Excalibur, so I was going on that path.

Cleo would be more of a caster, and probably not 'The main' character, but could still be a established female role.

I can respect your opinion, and I know that it would be hard to find another lead without completely changing the story, even still, I feel like there are better options. Matters of Opinions at this point.

Though I would like to point out that If we are using the logic that "fictional characters can be altered" then why not say something like "King Arthur took all the credit, including what Queen Arthur did." Or even just by being a descendant of King Arthur makes that character a hero, though untold, or something like that. Both characters can fit a good female role + use Excalibur + being the ultimate good.

P.S after re-reading, Saber was a love interest? Is this something that was gone into more depth outside the first show?

InfinityX:
P.S after re-reading, Saber was a love interest? Is this something that was gone into more depth outside the first show?

Fate/ Stay Night the anime is based on a visual novel. There are three routes you can take in the novel each one based around one of the heroines

Fate: Saber's route
Unlimited Blade Works: Rin's
Heaven's Feel: Sakura's

Routes change a huge amount of the plot, to the point where you can see them as three different stories. Each girl is the love interest in their own route. If you're into the universe I'd play the VN if I were you, its generally considered better than the anime.

Joan appears in one of the many spin off games from the VN, same with Nero who has also been gender swapped, it's completely retarded.

Gabanuka:

Fate/ Stay Night the anime is based on a visual novel. There are three routes you can take in the novel each one based around one of the heroines

Fate: Saber's route
Unlimited Blade Works: Rin's
Heaven's Feel: Sakura's

Routes change a huge amount of the plot, to the point where you can see them as three different stories. Each girl is the love interest in their own route. If you're into the universe I'd play the VN if I were you, its generally considered better than the anime.

Joan appears in one of the many spin off games from the VN, same with Nero who has also been gender swapped, it's completely retarded.

Thats a really cool idea! I wish more writers were as creative as this. I'll haft get around to all of them though.
I'll also look more into the VN, it seems pretty interesting, Thanks!

Fleaman:

Sheo_Dagana:
EDIT: After having watched the teaser trailer, it's looking more and more like it's simply a remake of the Fate route which the original series followed. But it's just a teaser trailer, so who knows.

I can't see the trailer right now, but if it's the same one I've seen before, it's mostly composed of scenes from the opening videos for Fate, UBW, and HF from the PS Vita remake of Fate/Stay Night: Realta Nua, which ufotable did the animation for. There are like three new bits of animation right at the end, from scenes common to all three routes.

By the way, if you haven't seen the Vita openings before, look them up on Youtube. It's impossible to find them in not-shit quality, but they blow the old openings off the fucking planet.

You're absolutely right! That's pretty much what I saw. I hadn't seen these before, I guess I knew nothing about the Vita release. Those intros were awesome!

Hmm, so maybe it's all just there to remind people what era it'll take place in. It'd be nice if it could be the Ilya arc, if Nasu has finished it, but I'd settle for Heaven's Feel! I just really hope it won't be a redux of the first series.

 

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