AMC Working on Preacher TV Series

AMC Working on Preacher TV Series

AMC is adapting the comic series Preacher with Breaking Bad's Sam Catlin as showrunner.

To say that AMC found success with its TV adaptation of The Walking Dead is the sort of thing that one might refer to as an "understatement." The series has broken numerous ratings records and easily cemented itself as one of the most popular shows on cable television. Perhaps hoping to replicate that accomplishment, the network has revealed that it will once again be looking to comics for source material, this time with a show based on Garth Ennis and Steve Dillon's Preacher series.

Preacher, which follows the disillusioned Rev. Jesse Custer on a literal quest to find a derelict God, will be tended to by the talents of Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg as well as Breaking Bad-producer Sam Catlin. Rogen and Goldberg, who recently worked together on the film This Is the End, will write the script while Catlin will serve as executive producer and showrunner. The show will also be overseen by Original Films' Neil Moritz, Ori Marmur, Vivian Cannon, Ken Levin and Jason Netter, all of whom will also work in executive producer roles.

Given AMC's track record for high quality shows (The Walking Dead, Breaking Bad, Mad Men), there shouldn't be too much concern over whether or the network can handle Preacher. That said, if there are fans with any doubts, it should be noted that the rights to the series didn't just fall into AMC's hands. The network apparently had to fight off some considerable competition to win the rights, a fact that will hopefully translate into it taking care with its adaptation.

Source: The Hollywood Reporter

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the bitching that will follow the second they announce the cast is gonna be amazing.

personally i kinda liked preacher, except for some things towards the end that i didn't like but i am really looking forward to this

This could be good, though I have a hard time seeing that guy as the lead.

Hopefully they'll have as much fun with the series as I had reading it.

Better get Hellboy to play the immortal cowboy.

Never read the comic, didn't even know it existed. Looks like a great concept though. Can't wait to completely forget about this then marathon entire seasons on netflix XD

I liked Preacher, but the violence makes Walking Dead look like children's programming - will be interesting to see how much makes it to the screen.

I'm still hoping for someone to take on Transmetropolitan someday. :(

Whaaaaaat? This would get someone burned at the stake in a lot of states.

Seriously, the plot, the dialogue, even the characters are all actively blasphemous to just about anyone who believes that sort of thing. Which is most of the people in the United States.

I loved it in a juvenile way, but this seems like too much of a s@#$storm for any network. I guess we'll see. Or maybe they'll neuter it.

I can't wait for AMC to fire Sam Catlin and slash the budget at the end of the successful first season.

I don't see how this can work. The violence will be reduced, alot, and I imagine characters will be very different than in the comics or not included at all because I don't think any American network has the balls to put a faithfull version of Arseface on TV. I have no idea how they could approach how religion is portrayed in Preacher. The same go's for the upcoming Constantine show.

The way TV is in the US, some things just cannot be done.

*jaw drops* *picks up* *fumbles / drops jaw again*

Look, I was a crazy huge fan of this comic and maintain that the comic as a totality was one of the best beginning-to-end story arcs I've ever read. I've always wanted to see it on a screen but there's no way it could be crammed into a trilogy, much less a single movie so tv it is. Based on The Walking Dead, AMC is a great fit, a superlative choice.

Buuuut...

*rubs temples*

Now that I'm all growed up, it is so unbelievably inappropriate. What redeemed the vileness of its content (which I wholeheartedly loved, don't get me wrong) was that it was almost perfectly even handed. Whoever greenlights this, though, is going to have to be superfine with blasphemy, homophobia, racism and Troma-level violence. Arseface alone is just so... nggh.

You also can't not do it that way.

"Oh, well let me see: We had an angel, a whore, an eunuch, several dozen idiots, an unkillable mick, a one-man holocaust in a duster coat, the occasional twenty-course banquet for the mother of all fat fuckers, inbreeding, family feuds, bulimia, a retarded child (always good for a laugh), and the utter destruction of our most sacred shrine and secret retreat in the detonation of a fifty-ton bomb."

Also, I'd like to submit John Malkovich for Herr Starr and James Marsden for Jesse Custer. Marsden might be too old, though.

(pauses, reads source)

Rogen and Goldberg are writing the script. Um. Um. Not sure which way that'll slant it. Could be ...ok? Breaking Bad's Catilin sounds more promising as a show runner. While I don't know too much about what that role entails, after the success of BB they'll likely have a lot of credit with the studio to push the material through. Still, if it's got Ennis's blessing that overturns my hesitations.

*chuckle* Wonder if they'd get James Franco to play Jesse. That's... actually not the worst casting decision I could see. Hm.

One more note on the source article :

Tulip O'Hare, Jesse's beer-guzzling vampire ex-girlfriend, accompanies him on his quest for answers.

That's a typo, right? They're not going to try mashing those two characters together... right? Right? We're going to have Tulip O'Hare, ex-girlfriend and Cassidy, beer-guzzling vampire buddy as two separate and discrete entities.

*eyes narrow*

Right?!?

I've never heard of this before, but the google pictures made it look rather... violent, in a juvenile kind of way.

AMC could pull it off though, who knows.

... No. I'm sorry, but I can't get excited for this. Why? Because, Preacher is just a series that can't translate well on TV if you want to translate the feel of the comic properly. Preacher is violent, dark, no holds barred. It has some effed up imagery but also, it's very tied to the period it published into.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see the Saint of Killers on screen, but for this to get greenlighted, they would have to cut off much of what made this series good to begin with. It would be even worse than what happened with the Walking Dead...

Elijah Newton:
One more note on the source article :

Tulip O'Hare, Jesse's beer-guzzling vampire ex-girlfriend, accompanies him on his quest for answers.

That's a typo, right? They're not going to try mashing those two characters together... right? Right? We're going to have Tulip O'Hare, ex-girlfriend and Cassidy, beer-guzzling vampire buddy as two separate and discrete entities.

*eyes narrow*

Right?!?

... First. Freaking. Strike, AMC!

I stopped reading Preacher before it wrapped up, but I loved it through the first 40 or so issues. I can't imagine it as a live-action series, though. I just can't visualize any "real" person giving the characters the same life they had in the comics; supporting characters like Arseface, the Saint of Killers or even Jody and TC are easy enough to fill, but who's going to play the three leads? And how are you going to capture the runaway insanity of the whole thing, while keeping it grounded in the essential earthiness of characters like Jesse, Cassidy and Tulip?

Best-case scenario, it's a hit with viewers unfamiliar with the source material - something akin to Walking Dead, maybe. But I think even that is expecting (or hoping for) a lot.

Novaova:
I can't wait for AMC to fire Sam Catlin and slash the budget at the end of the successful first season.

We have a winner folks, no more post needed

Kross:
I'm still hoping for someone to take on Transmetropolitan someday. :(

Ages ago, Patrick Stewart expressed interest in playing Spider. No idea if he's still up for it, but, that should knock the awesome factor up a bit for the possibility.

In unrelated adaptations, I'd love to see Bruce Boxleitner playing Elijah Snow from Planetary, but... you know, one Warren Ellis series at a time.

I've never heard of this :o I'll have to pick it up somewhere.

Is there any relation to that "Priest" movie that came out a while back? I'll admit, I haven't looked anything up yet, so I don't know if I'm accidentally offending anyone by making the assumption. While it wasn't a stellar movie, it had an interesting setting at least.

amc has decided to be awesome in the last 5 years.

No one will trust AMC to work with them because they're greedy bastards that slash budgets and fire creators

Kross:
I liked Preacher, but the violence makes Walking Dead look like children's programming - will be interesting to see how much makes it to the screen.

I'm still hoping for someone to take on Transmetropolitan someday. :(

Transmeteropolitan would be awesome, and honesty I would have expected that to be made before Preacher if someone asked me. Largely because it covers *some* of the same territory as "Max Headroom", which while a failure in it's initial run (largely due to not being taken care of right) became a cult classic of the sort networks are taking a look back on now to see how and why they survived even out in the fringes. Of course to be honest though it's such a character-centric piece that I'm not sure if they could cast Spider properly, and if they DID cast him I'd be afraid the networks would ruin it, sort of turning the show into one of the jokes from the comic (where they had all the shows and stuff in the comic world people were basing on Spider once he became famous, all missing the point of what he was like, what he actually stood for, or how he went about what he did).

Preacher... well I can almost see this. To be honest "Supernatural" has had me thinking a lot about "Preacher" and wondering of the finale of Supernatrual was going to eventually lead to them (Sam and Dean) hunting down God to make him take responsibility like in Preacher. If this show is made they will have to do something else though.

Honestly though the reason why I say "I can almost see this" is because I don't think AMC could do this without ruining it, the only ones that have a chance is HBO (maybe). Simply put a lot of the things in Preacher are really offensive but also what give the series it's charm, and almost everything is there for a reason. The violence isn't an issue, I'm thinking of the deviant sex. Jesus De Sade, Ms. Oatlash, "The Meatman", anal fixated seriel killers (and the macho man cop who is secretly a homosexual submissive hunting them), the homosexual sex detectives... one of whom is literally named "Buggery Bob" and is accidently hired to anally rape Herr Starr by one of his assistants, and then speaking of Herr Star... lol... the guy is mutilated into a walking sight gag so he looks like a bipedal penis, and the only way he can get it up anymore is to have a hooker sodomize him with a special dildo he had his armorers make.... and I mean crap, I'm just getting started since I'm not even getting into Arseface or what Jessie's family gets up to. You *could* gloss over this stuff and all the intentional gross outs and what not, but in doing so it wouldn't be Preacher anymore, and again within the context of the story all of this gross out stuff actually serves a purpose and means something in the greater context of the story (what exactly happens, to whom, and why).

To be honest I'm surprised and a bit disappointed Garth Ennis let go of the rights, especially after his forewards in he graphic novel about concern over imitators and people not getting the point since it would likely just turn into "Meaness for the sake of meaness" or however he put it, since as I said, it wasn't just an endless psychopathic display, all of what you saw and happened was nessicary and part of the storytelling.

Ah well, we'll see what happens. Simply put to do "Transmetropolitan" or "Preacher" right means your going to offend pretty much everybody. Maybe that will happen, and if it does, we'll know it was done correctly. The only ones who likely shouldn't be offended are the hardcore fans. :)

I guess I will have to replace "most unlikely comic to ever be made into a TV series" from "Preacher" to "The Invisibles" in my mental listing.

Hahaha, man after seeing how soft they made the Walking Dead, I'll be impressed if they can make it darker than Supernatural.

Preacher is so gross, ultraviolent, and ultraoffensive that only Ennis's subsequent works top it.

Elijah Newton:
One more note on the source article :

Tulip O'Hare, Jesse's beer-guzzling vampire ex-girlfriend, accompanies him on his quest for answers.

That's a typo, right? They're not going to try mashing those two characters together... right? Right? We're going to have Tulip O'Hare, ex-girlfriend and Cassidy, beer-guzzling vampire buddy as two separate and discrete entities.

*eyes narrow*

Right?!?

Oh god. They took out the best character already.

Smilomaniac:
I've never heard of this :o I'll have to pick it up somewhere.

Is there any relation to that "Priest" movie that came out a while back? I'll admit, I haven't looked anything up yet, so I don't know if I'm accidentally offending anyone by making the assumption. While it wasn't a stellar movie, it had an interesting setting at least.

It's not related, but I don't think anyone would get offended, not a lot of people outside know who Garth Ennis is.

Smilomaniac:
I've never heard of this :o I'll have to pick it up somewhere.

Is there any relation to that "Priest" movie that came out a while back? I'll admit, I haven't looked anything up yet, so I don't know if I'm accidentally offending anyone by making the assumption. While it wasn't a stellar movie, it had an interesting setting at least.

None at all, I listed some of the extreme stuff in my last post but I don't want to spoil it.

The best way I can sort of describe it is a sort of supernatural road trip. The basic plot (established early on) is that God is basically an insane love vampire, meaning he literally feeds off of and needs love (not to be confused with sex). He pretty much created the angels to love him, and it worked for a while, but eventually he decided it wasn't enough because it had no meaning if they couldn't choose not to love him. He created humans who had a choice not to love him, and that too worked for a while when they chose too, but he became jealous because he was so much greater than humanity and the love he felt for them was in no way what they felt for him, so he deduced the only way to be happy would be to create something greater to himself to love him... which he did, and it scared the piss out of him when he finally realized what that meant. He pretty much fled heaven to hide from this infant mass of power he created, abandoning the world to go to pot. This creation eventually escapes and falls to earth, drawn loosely by the sense of god somewhere on the planet (as an infant it has little true will of it's own, just amazing amounts of power) where it fuses with the soul of Reverend Jessie Custer, a preacher with a rather warped family backround I won't spoil. Along with this power inside of him (he can only use some of it, he can make anything, including divine-level beings do anything he commands them to, the literal "word of god" so to speak) he obtains knowledge that the world has been going to hell because god screwed up and abandoned everyone and everything because he got scared, so he pretty much sets out to find god (who is hiding somewhere on earth) to basically stick his boot up the almighty's arse and get him to take responsibility for his own creation, (including the "child" he tried to imprison and abandoned). The story is basically the journeys of this guy with more power than god inside of him, looking for god, while other supernatural forces take action around him given the events.... and simply put it gets insane. Rather than an open ended series, it was actually completed, and has a beginning, middle, and end, with a few side stories rounding out some of the supporting cast members (Jessie's family, The Saint Of Killers, etc...).

I read and enjoyed Preacher, but I have a seriously hard time believing they are going to be able to faithfully put this on the screen, especially the TV screen.

Preacher basically goes out of its way to be as insanely offensive as it possibly can. I have a high tolerance for twisted and depraved craziness, but even I'll admit there were parts that made me downright uncomfortable and that I thought were pretty sick. How they are possibly going to put this stuff on TV is beyond me.

I just want to know if they're ballsy enough to shoot the meat woman.

It's so completely unfathomable for this to accurately translate to Television that I can't wait to see it.

Therumancer:
I guess I will have to replace "most unlikely comic to ever be made into a TV series" from "Preacher" to "The Invisibles" in my mental listing.

I have read The Invisibles from beginning to end at least five times, and I still have no idea what the fuck was going on. Bless you Morrison, you adorable lunatic.

OT: Can't see it working. It's just too weird to translate into the mainstream without cutting out a hell of a lot of stuff. Not only that, but there's something in there to offend everyone: the BDSM crowd won't like Jesus de Sade, the gay crowd won't like the Sexual Investigators or the overall homophobic tone, the Southern crowd won't like the redneck incestuous hillbillies, the touchy-feely crowd won't like Jesse's hatred of psychiatry and anything else he sees as not sufficiently masculine, the feminist crowd won't like an openly sexist hero, the religious crowd won't like...well, anything, the suicide prevention crowd won't like seeing a botched teenage suicide played for laughs...

More importantly, of course, is that they'd need to cast someone to play Bill Hicks. And that's blasphemy.

Therumancer:
*snip*

Well that decides it, I'm definitely going to get it. Thanks for the description, you sold it well!

Kross:
I liked Preacher, but the violence makes Walking Dead look like children's programming - will be interesting to see how much makes it to the screen.

I'm still hoping for someone to take on Transmetropolitan someday. :(

Patrick Stewart wanted to do an animated version where he voiced Spider. Cementing his reputation as the coolest motherfucker in the universe. (Not sure about the voice though)

I am hopeful about this. Preacher has a very laid back sense of humour and a self awareness about how silly it is. It's at once earnest and self deprecating. It will be a very hard task to pull off. Here is hoping.

Honestly, I still dont see how they can pull this off on AMC. Walking Dead, Breaking Bad... for all the stuff that pushes the envelope, they still dont go where Preacher did. Garth Ennis is a twisted fella, and I will leave it at that.

*Eyes widen, mouth agape in awe*

Please, please please please let this be true and happen... and actually be, you know, good. But considering the success and quality of two of the biggest adapted shows ever (Game of Thrones and Walking Dead), I have a fair amount of confidence in this. I even believe they could pull most of the offensiveness and violence off, since IMO most of it can be toned down in very subtle ways: instead of showing the guy's neck gushing blood and Cassidy biting down on it, just show Cassidy crouch over someone and then feasting on him from afar, and then show his bloody mouth.

But the stuff with the Allfather and the inbred Messiah... they're going to have a tough nut to crack with that. It's so insanely gross and offensive yet still relevant to the story they can't basically cut any of it out. As well as with the child killing, T.C. raping animals, Cassidy's addiction, racism, Jesus DeSade... if they manage to pull it off, we're living in heaven.

But my biggest concern is how would they be able to pull off the Salvation part of the story? In comics you can do that, but in television you just can't basically devote an entire season to what amounts to a sidestory and the main character sorting himself out.

Therumancer:
I guess I will have to replace "most unlikely comic to ever be made into a TV series" from "Preacher" to "The Invisibles" in my mental listing.

I'd say The Boys*, but you can very easily cut out most of the gratuitous stuff in that and make it a better story. Loved the overall concept, but couldn't bring myself to pay for another issue after "Herogasm"

*ergh

Glad that they are selecting the right kind of comics to adapt at last. In AMC hands this should be really cool. I smell another winner in the making, as the books were great. If only AMC had got DMZ as well, which I pray to god ScyFy don't meddle with and mess up.

Much to look forward to.

SonicWaffle:

Therumancer:
I guess I will have to replace "most unlikely comic to ever be made into a TV series" from "Preacher" to "The Invisibles" in my mental listing.

I have read The Invisibles from beginning to end at least five times, and I still have no idea what the fuck was going on. Bless you Morrison, you adorable lunatic.

OT: Can't see it working. It's just too weird to translate into the mainstream without cutting out a hell of a lot of stuff. Not only that, but there's something in there to offend everyone: the BDSM crowd won't like Jesus de Sade, the gay crowd won't like the Sexual Investigators or the overall homophobic tone, the Southern crowd won't like the redneck incestuous hillbillies, the touchy-feely crowd won't like Jesse's hatred of psychiatry and anything else he sees as not sufficiently masculine, the feminist crowd won't like an openly sexist hero, the religious crowd won't like...well, anything, the suicide prevention crowd won't like seeing a botched teenage suicide played for laughs...

More importantly, of course, is that they'd need to cast someone to play Bill Hicks. And that's blasphemy.

I could spell out the whole "Invisibles" thing for you if you want but it would take a while, mostly because it's big on establishing a narrative and using time travel to later explain a totally unexpected outcome and certain characters having had foreknowledge of events without making it clear they had foreknowledge of events. As a result it's kind of best understood from the ending back to the beginning oddly enough because when you know where it's going the rest of it makes more sense as odd as that sounds.

For example one of the big surprises is that our young protagonist was calling the shots from the future the entire time, and some characters like Ragged Robin pretty much knew a lot of what was going to happen before they did. If you ever wondered for example why she introduced herself as "I'm Ragged Robin and I'm insane" when she's arguably one of the more stable characters you later found out that she was told in the future that those were the first words she spoke to him... etc... What's more some of the odder groups like the Halinquinade which they eventually realize "are us" actually are them acting from the future. Of course things aren't made any easier by the fact that it seems at least half the cast is supposed to be telepathic, and if you wonder "well why isn't anyone doing psionic" later on Mister Six makes it clear they actually were which put a lot of events into doubt, by way of telling one of the main bad guys "hey you just walked into a room with a bunch of the most powerful telepaths in the world, do you really think you had this under control and we didn't see it coming?" or something along those lines.

That said it is totally insane, and can be hard to figure out. They even wrote an entire "Disinformation Guide To The Invisibles" both about the production and sorting out some of the utter strangeness.

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That said, yeah, I previously considered Preacher a lot less likely to get made because while "The invisibles" has some weird stuff going on (heck the bring The Marquis De Sade through time and he becomes one of the supporting cast, King Mob is an S&M Master, and you have people using tantric magic to have sex with ghosts and time travelling astral forms) it's actually not tall that graphic as there is no real need to be for the purposes of the story. On the other hand it could be argued in Preacher all of that offensive stuff kind of is the story, since half the point is how it winds up being put into context.

That said it has been a while but I actually though Jesus De Sade would be one of the easier bits to do, at the end of the day he's mostly just terminally kinky, not really part of any particular subculture. His entire gags were like having an armadillo brought to his bedroom on a covered tray because it's announced "he buggers a new species every day, and they are running out of things to sodomize because he's worked through most of the greater quadrupeds". For the most part he's ignored as being fairly harmless, until it's revealed towards the end of Jessie's visit that he's making incestuous pedophile movies, and that's when Jessie kind of loses his sh@t. Things like this push the envelope for what you'd need to show, but really it's within the range of what HBO has already done, which is why I'm mostly thinking that I couldn't see AMC pulling it off.... what's more since you mention "The Invisibles" one of the gags at De Sade's party is that you'll notice a pair of people in hunting outfits chasing a naked guy around in the backround... remember the beginning of The Invisibles and later reveals as to who they actually were? Nothing deeper intended, just one bizzare fringe comic apparently making a nod to another. :)

Truthfully I'd think the BDSM crowd would get a little more irritated with the portrayal of Ms. Oatlash later on. She's a little more plot centric due to her crush on Jessie, and a bit more offensive, especially seeing as she's portrayed as being mostly harmless, and despite the destruction of her Nazi collection she more or less gets away unscathed if I remember. That said the one two punch of her, and then what Quintin Kincaid is up to in his meat locker which to work has to be an "OMG, WTF am I seeing" moment... yeah I think some sensibilities might be offended.

At any rate I shouldn't say anymore, it will be interesting to see what happens, but honestly I just can't see this being done right. I can almost guarantee a bunch of fans will be looking at the TV productions and rightfully claiming they more or less ruined it (as well as accusing Garth Ennis of selling out) because really, it seems obvious right from the get go that they just cannot do this right. Preacher by definition is supposed to offend the mainstream in a way that a TV network cannot do and continue to operate. If it fails, a big part of the point, and the message, is being missed. A politically correct version that does not tread on "sacred" territory, and treats all people with respect and dignified representations misses the point entirely. Gays, rednecks, perverts, the religious, right wing, left wing, "moderates", atheists... they all get blasted. :)

In Preacher the only thing that is sacred and beyond criticism is John Wayne... John never lets his partners down, and is a REAL American, and what the country should stand for.... and this itself is part of the joke. :)

 

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