Google France Forced to Display Privacy Violation Notice

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Google France Forced to Display Privacy Violation Notice

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The ordinarily pristine Google search page must now display a notice stating the company had to pay a privacy violation fine of €150,000.

The Google search page is, ordinarily, one of the most pristine places on the internet, displaying the Google logo, a search box, and two buttons. However, in France, at least for the next 48 hours, the Google search page must be accompanied by a notice stating that France's Commission Nationale de l'Informatique et des Libertés (CNIL) determined last year that the company had failed to address privacy and data protection questions, and was subsequently fined €150,000 (around $204,000), the maximum amount allowed by law.

The message must also contain a link to CNIL's decision, which Google is currently trying its best to appeal. "Google has always maintained that page in a virgin state," argued attorney Patrice Spinosi, but nonetheless, France's top administrative court still upheld the CNIL's decision.

Google fell under the ire of CNIL back in October, 2012, when its investigation concluded that a new privacy policy that combined several separate policies under one umbrella and allowed Google to take advantage of user data from multiple different services at once, was in violation of "fundamental rights and freedoms of the data subject."

Google was given a three month deadline to change the policy, which it failed to meet, and as such was subsequently fined and forced to display the message on its homepage. CNIL has been looking for ways to multiply the fairly low fine amount, which will barley leave a dent in Google's massive coffers.

Google is also facing action in the UK, Germany, Italy, and the Netherlands regarding its controversial privacy policies.

Source: The Verge

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Wow, go France. I like the knew tactic of targeting their reputation, because they a virtually limitless supply of cash. (This will of course hinder that supply more than the 150k will which is also awesome).

"You fuck with our people's privacy, we'll fuck your 'virgin' page."

To be honest, I don't see this having that much of an effect. I can't remember the last time I went to the Google home page, I just open a new tab and type my search term into the address bar when I need to Google something

its good.. except that 150,000 euro ( about 200,000 USD) is piss pathetic seeing as google made at least 2 billion in the 3rd financial quarter of 2013.

2 billion being the profit they made in that quarter not their total revenue*

CpT_x_Killsteal:
Wow, go France. I like the knew tactic of targeting their reputation, because they a virtually limitless supply of cash. (This will of course hinder that supply more than the 150k will which is also awesome).

"You fuck with our people's privacy, we'll fuck your 'virgin' page."

It's a very common practice. If a people magazine is condemned for invasion of privacy of a celebrity, they have to display a full page in their next edition to state so. It's good on paper, but unfortunately in reality people don't seem to care an continue to buy the magazine (or use the Google services). And as was pointed out, the fine is usually less than they make for publishing an article in the first place so they keep doing it.

Oh you better believe they will find a way to multiply the fines. Google is rich and they know it. Should have changed that policy boys, now they have a case. Oh and making the notice public was a stroke of genius.

RedBackDragon:
its good.. except that 150,000 euro ( about 200,000 USD) is piss pathetic seeing as google made at least 2 billion in the 3rd financial quarter of 2013.

2 billion being the profit they made in that quarter not their total revenue*

Chances are the fine is less than they spent on lawyers fighting it. And even those costs combined doesn't amount to anything more than spare change.

I'm glad to hear my country (the Netherlands) is also stepping in, Google has been without control for far too long.

and to the French I say:

très bon!

How about actually making them stop violating people's privacy?

Good.
Bleed those idiots dry for shoving down google+ everyones throat.
Good job pestering people about their real names constantly and publicizing the private data of people they didn't want anyone to see when merging google accounts.
I know a good multiplicator that'll make them get that thumb out o their collective asses, how about 150k Euros for every citizen they are data mining this way for each month this is still going on unchanged?
Cause those are the people actually affected. Why not let them line their pockets?

Google: "It's a LIE! The evidence has been falsified! I never broke the law! I AM THE LAW!!"

Vive le France!

Guys, remember when Google used to not be evil? I really, really miss those days.

Genocidicles:
How about actually making them stop violating people's privacy?

Gonna be hard trying to reign in google when its own goverment is busy violationg the privacy of every citizen in its nation just darn about, nm how much more spying the nsa does outside of america wherte they clearly have zero concern about privacy respe3ct trust.

How are our corporations going to take privacy seriously when their national leaders laugh and spit on it.

ohnoitsabear:
Guys, remember when Google used to not be evil? I really, really miss those days.

Unfortunately that seems to be the fate of every company that manages to corner a market and grows large and fat from it. As Lord Acton once said: "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."

This doesn't make any sense... Google is an American corporation so it stands above all laws.

kanetsb:
This doesn't make any sense... Google is an American corporation so it stands above all laws.

They also have a deal with the NSA to provide w/e they want for any reason they want, same old system just google does the dirty work for the usg now.

So yea good luck.

Complete bullshit, Google should have just gone dark in France for two days. Mainly because the privacy laws in Europe are completely nuts.

proud too be a European, almost makes me wish I was French. Google needs to be defamed for turning evil so rapidly, and it's monopoly dismantled. The average consumer has no idea what is going on behind the scenes and are very easily lulled into habits.

thisbymaster:
Complete bullshit, Google should have just gone dark in France for two days. Mainly because the privacy laws in Europe are completely nuts.

are you for real? you don't care about right to privacy?

Genocidicles:
How about actually making them stop violating people's privacy?

That's what I allways think when something like this happens...I think the people at Google have great problems with Asthma by now from laughing too hard.

Ha. Good.

It's not so much about the fine as it is about the message.

CpT_x_Killsteal:

"You fuck with our people's privacy, we'll fuck your 'virgin' page."

Seems like she's not so pure anymore.

Atleast the EU has the integrity to stand up for it's citizens' rights.

Viva la Resistance! ...

...

I just felt like saying that. I am sure it is somehow applicable to this situation.

O maestre:
proud too be a European, almost makes me wish I was French. Google needs to be defamed for turning evil so rapidly, and it's monopoly dismantled. The average consumer has no idea what is going on behind the scenes and are very easily lulled into habits.

thisbymaster:
Complete bullshit, Google should have just gone dark in France for two days. Mainly because the privacy laws in Europe are completely nuts.

are you for real? you don't care about right to privacy?

Privacy is an illusion and is completely dead. No amount of whining, laws or fines can put this genie back in the bottle.

Steven Bogos:

Google is also facing action in the UK, Germany, Italy, and the Netherlands regarding its controversial privacy policies.

Oh come on, UK. After the whole GCHQ thing you can stop pretending you give a shit about my privacy. In fact, I'd probably rather that Google was checking my browsing than the government.

kanetsb:
This doesn't make any sense... Google is an American corporation so it stands above all laws.

Is of surely work of saboteurs, occupists and entitlers to topple glorious job creators. Law is for masses, to lead and of direct us. Is of not need for glorious Corporation.

thisbymaster:

O maestre:
proud too be a European, almost makes me wish I was French. Google needs to be defamed for turning evil so rapidly, and it's monopoly dismantled. The average consumer has no idea what is going on behind the scenes and are very easily lulled into habits.

thisbymaster:
Complete bullshit, Google should have just gone dark in France for two days. Mainly because the privacy laws in Europe are completely nuts.

are you for real? you don't care about right to privacy?

Privacy is an illusion and is completely dead. No amount of whining, laws or fines can put this genie back in the bottle.

Well, time for the standard reply. Please send me your name, address, and the kind of porn you like. You can PM it to me if you want; I promise I won't tell anyone!

I wonder what kind of privacy violations google did... To the TOS:DR website.

I'd be happy about this, except the fine is pocket change for Google and message on the home page is only going to be seen by old/tech-illiterate people who don't realize they can just type directly into the address bar.

Google needs some REAL discipline.

My question is why is the notice only required for two days? If Google didn't change the policy would it not make more sense to require the notice at least until compliance?

Ftaghn To You Too:

thisbymaster:

O maestre:
proud too be a European, almost makes me wish I was French. Google needs to be defamed for turning evil so rapidly, and it's monopoly dismantled. The average consumer has no idea what is going on behind the scenes and are very easily lulled into habits.

are you for real? you don't care about right to privacy?

Privacy is an illusion and is completely dead. No amount of whining, laws or fines can put this genie back in the bottle.

Well, time for the standard reply. Please send me your name, address, and the kind of porn you like. You can PM it to me if you want; I promise I won't tell anyone!

You mean all publicly available data? Why bother, go use google for awhile and you will find it all out. Or you could use the yellow pages if you are old.

Omegatronacles:
To be honest, I don't see this having that much of an effect. I can't remember the last time I went to the Google home page, I just open a new tab and type my search term into the address bar when I need to Google something

Where I work, if someone wants to google something they still type in google.com first. Old habits die hard i guess

150k Euros as the maximum possible fine for breach of privacy? That might be reasonable if you're fining an individual who makes 50k a year, but it's nothing for a company like Google.

Change the law so it's three times the guilty party's annual income and we might actually see some results.

Meh, I don't really see the big deal about all the privacy hooplaw. I like that Google keeps track of my information because that is the only real way Google can offer a better product / service.

As for the notice I don't think it is going to do much good. With a good enough lawyer Google could probably sue France for it. It is pretty well documented that one of the reason's for Google's success has been the simplicity of the homepage. Or at least it is pretty well documented that Google believes that to be the case. Now I don't know about whether or not this notice thing is standard practice for a website to do if they violate privacy laws, but if it is not standard and Google can prove they didn't make as much money as normal on those days they could have a case (again, you'd need a damn good lawyer which I'm sure Google can afford).

But like I said, I don't think the notice is going to do anything so this is all kind of moot.

Roxor:
150k Euros as the maximum possible fine for breach of privacy? That might be reasonable if you're fining an individual who makes 50k a year, but it's nothing for a company like Google.

Change the law so it's three times the guilty party's annual income and we might actually see some results.

sad reality is - they wont change. there was a company here that sold plastic food bags. turns out, they were made our of poisonous plastic and would contamiante any warm food they came in contact with (it would literally melt-leak into food). the company was told to stop, they didnt. so they got fined. paid fine and didnt stop. they got fined 3 times, after that they made a sale and still sold all of the bags. later in the interview when asked why they didnt stop selling them and kept getting fined they said it was more profitable for them to pay the fine than pull the product.
meanwhile, you get to pay 20.000 dollars for every song you download/watch on youtube, becaus copyright is obviuosly more important than health hazzard.

Dogstile:
Where I work, if someone wants to google something they still type in google.com first. Old habits die hard i guess

sad but true to a lot of people. there is also the thing that this doesnt actually work on IE which a lot of people sadly still use.
There are even worse offenders though, i remember i asked people to download something and gave them the exactly link to a file hosted. so instead of typing it to adress bar they typed it into google and complained that they cant find it since google didnt index the link that was only few hours old. i had to tell that person to type it in adress bar on 4 seperate occasions till she finally got it.

thisbymaster:
Complete bullshit, Google should have just gone dark in France for two days. Mainly because the privacy laws in Europe are completely nuts.

google would then be fined for the riots that ensue during that time.

O maestre:
proud too be a European, almost makes me wish I was French. Google needs to be defamed for turning evil so rapidly, and it's monopoly dismantled. The average consumer has no idea what is going on behind the scenes and are very easily lulled into habits.

You dont want to be the hypocrite french that does this on one day and then passes laws that allows the government to legally install spyware in every computer in france to ensure they dont "have sensitive material".

Furism:
If a people magazine is condemned for invasion of privacy of a celebrity, they have to display a full page in their next edition to state so. It's good on paper, but unfortunately in reality people don't seem to care an continue to buy the magazine

Maybe they continue to buy the magazine because it was the celebrity's private life that attracted them there in the first place?

Strazdas:

Dogstile:
Where I work, if someone wants to google something they still type in google.com first. Old habits die hard i guess

sad but true to a lot of people. there is also the thing that this doesnt actually work on IE which a lot of people sadly still use.
There are even worse offenders though, i remember i asked people to download something and gave them the exactly link to a file hosted. so instead of typing it to adress bar they typed it into google and complained that they cant find it since google didnt index the link that was only few hours old. i had to tell that person to type it in adress bar on 4 seperate occasions till she finally got it.

You're a fellow "IT" guy aren't you? That story alone describes my day.

Google's coffers are basically bottomless so this will do fuck all.

Still, its better then nothing. I hope they can somehow vastly increase that little number, and make that addition to the web-page a permanent one for as long as Google refuses to play nice.

Its rather sad that the forced change to its web-page will annoy Google more then all that money.

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