KOTOR Remake Sounds Good to Xbox Boss

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KOTOR Remake Sounds Good to Xbox Boss

Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic

Knights of the Old Republic was great, and Phil Spencer agrees - though bringing it back won't be easy.

There are few RPGs that measure up to the first Knights of the Old Republic, which is now more than a decade old. It's still fun today (as evidenced by last year's iPad port), but some may find it a bit outdated. In all likelihood that won't change anytime soon, but the seed of hope is there - for what it's worth, Microsoft Studios Executive VP Phil Spencer thinks an updated Anniversary Edition is a good idea.

A curious fan on Twitter asked Spencer about his favorite RPGs, and the Microsoft exec mentioned Knights of the Old Republic as one of his top six (the others being Ultima Online, Bard's Tale, Morrowind, Fallout, and Balder's Gate - he's a man of good taste). When the fan asked about the possibility of a remake, Spencer replied that he'd "put a vote in."

As he points out, the rights to the game are easily the biggest obstacle to any kind of Anniversary Edition. Fable and Halo have both seen HD Anniversary re-releases, but those IPs are still held by Microsoft. While KOTOR certainly shaped the early days of the first Xbox as much as those games did, the IP is all over the place these days. BioWare made the game, which means EA would probably get involved, and even then it might need to go through Disney now that they're in charge of Star Wars.

In other words, don't hold your breath - but it's good to know that KOTOR fans have allies in high places.

Source: Twitter, via IGN

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Query: holy shit. I Would sacrifice every meatbag on this planet to acquire this game in HD glory.

I think EA is currently doing another Star Wars game and they released TOR so this probably isn't out of the question... though I wouldn't want to see it as an Xbone only... because ya know... probably not going to get one... even for a rerelease of KOTOR.

gmaverick019:
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Query: holy shit. I Would sacrifice every meatbag on this planet to acquire this game in HD glory.

I don't know about every, but I'd certainly hurt somebody to get an HD version of this game on either PS3 or 360.

GamerMage:
took out the gif because 3 in a row was very odd looking.

statement: Apparently this meatbags resolution is not strong enough. Termination is required.

(but really, this is the HD remake I've been waiting for. hopefully they polish some things up too with it!)

How about a properly finished sequel? That would be pretty cool too.

Also, I wonder if they'd still shackle it to a modified D&D system.

gmaverick019:

GamerMage:
took out the gif because 3 in a row was very odd looking.

statement: Apparently this meatbags resolution is not strong enough. Termination is required.

(but really, this is the HD remake I've been waiting for. hopefully they polish some things up too with it!)

Correction: Whilst I would in fact harm a meatbag or two for this game's release, you did not specify your terms. (Like what types are speaking of?) But seriously, I feel the same. I hear there was a patch to it, and that the game itself was missing some content due to deadlines. Here's hoping that if a HD Remake is made, they add that as well.

GamerMage:

gmaverick019:

GamerMage:
took out the gif because 3 in a row was very odd looking.

statement: Apparently this meatbags resolution is not strong enough. Termination is required.

(but really, this is the HD remake I've been waiting for. hopefully they polish some things up too with it!)

Correction: Whilst I would in fact harm a meatbag or two for this game's release, you did not specify your terms. (Like what types are speaking of?) But seriously, I feel the same. I hear there was a patch to it, and that the game itself was missing some content due to deadlines. Here's hoping that if a HD Remake is made, they add that as well.

That was Knights of the Old Republic 2 that was made by Obsidian that had a patch to unlock unfinished content.

WouldYouKindly:
How about a properly finished sequel? That would be pretty cool too.

Also, I wonder if they'd still shackle it to a modified D&D system.

KOTOR 3 would be my choice, too.

Although I disagree that "shackle" is the right word for the role-playing system KOTOR used. I rather liked it.

GamerMage:

gmaverick019:

GamerMage:
took out the gif because 3 in a row was very odd looking.

statement: Apparently this meatbags resolution is not strong enough. Termination is required.

(but really, this is the HD remake I've been waiting for. hopefully they polish some things up too with it!)

Correction: Whilst I would in fact harm a meatbag or two for this game's release, you did not specify your terms. (Like what types are speaking of?) But seriously, I feel the same. I hear there was a patch to it, and that the game itself was missing some content due to deadlines. Here's hoping that if a HD Remake is made, they add that as well.

You're probably thinking of KotOR II, made by Obsidian Entertainment with all of their trademark unpolished genius. It had a lot of cut content, and it wasn't pieced together all that coherently, so fans have been doing some unofficial modding and patching for a while.

I... don't know how to feel about this. KotOR is one of my favourite games of all time, and while I was excited for the upcoming Fable re-release, I personally feel no pressing need for an HD KotOR, I still jump into it every now and again and the graphics aren't a problem at all - but then, I haven't seen what an HD version would look like, and I suspect that if I did, I'd be drooling for a week. But even if it's not something I'd end up being keen on, it's something that I'd love to see happen, I could get it for my younger cousins.

I tried playing the first few hours of KOTOR last year. It felt so strangely generic, but that's likely due to the fact that every single other RPG is following the conventions of KOTOR now, sort of like how Seinfeld is considered derivative of itself due to its imitations of over the years. I guess it also explained why I didn't get into Mass Effect after playing KOTOR first.
From what I've played, it was good. An HD version just might grab me.

Seriously, we need a real Kotor 3....we don't need a remake, the first 2 games are still great and WHO FREAKING CARES ABOUT GRAPHICS IN RPG GAMES!!!!.

The graphics are fine. The games are great...just make a new one please (And not a crappy horrible worthless waste of time MMO).

MAKE KOTOR 3!!!

I'm using my jedi mind powers on you. Go make it NOW!!

I'll force choke you if you don't.

frizzlebyte:

WouldYouKindly:
How about a properly finished sequel? That would be pretty cool too.

Also, I wonder if they'd still shackle it to a modified D&D system.

KOTOR 3 would be my choice, too.

Although I disagree that "shackle" is the right word for the role-playing system KOTOR used. I rather liked it.

Hey, shackles can be fun.

*Ahem* Sorry about that but I couldn't resist. There's nothing inherently wrong with such a system, but you're generally only going there for the sake of familiarity for your audience anyway. For all of my RPG experience, I still don't do tabletop gaming. My only experience with those systems is through games like KOTOR and Neverwinter Nights.

Well. This is a tweet not saying no to the question. I take it for granted that no one has vowed never to release and HD remake of anything. That's probably only because there's no reason to do so.

If you must remake can you please retool the combat system to be a little more engaging?

I'd rather have a KOTOR 3 handled by the original team and not rushed out the door. I started replaying KOTOR last week and it still completely holds up.

As much as I'd like this, I would like an official complete version of KOTOR 2, or even KOTOR 3 before a remake of the first one. Of course, if the first one is remade, I will still totally jump on it.

WouldYouKindly:
How about a properly finished sequel? That would be pretty cool too.

Also, I wonder if they'd still shackle it to a modified D&D system.

ChildofGallifrey:
I'd rather have a KOTOR 3 handled by the original team and not rushed out the door. I started replaying KOTOR last week and it still completely holds up.

This...so much this. An HD remake of the original would be nice, but mods on the PC versions are more than adequate to feed that particular demand.

Alas, I doubt we will ever see a proper sequel. The very idea would completely undermine SWTOR, and threaten to scuttle interest in playing that game at all.

Indeed, the only reason I still have my accounts (which I allowed to go Free to Play long ago), is simply to eventually play the last few stories and "complete" my KOTOR experience. However, a lot has been lost by making the game such a large and unwieldy MMO.

TBH, I loathe most MMO's, making an exception only for SWTOR (out of reverence to KOTOR and the best story of any MMO) and Secret World (b/c I love the original developer of that IP).

We already have KOTOR3, EA released the MMO a couple of years back.

For all it's bad points, TOR was a beautiful game. I would very much like to see KOTOR 1 and 2 remade using it's assets.

WouldYouKindly:
How about a properly finished sequel? That would be pretty cool too.

Also, I wonder if they'd still shackle it to a modified D&D system.

Super unlikely considering Wizards/DnD doesn't currently produce the Star Wars RPG (Fantasy Flight makes the current version), I'd imagine they'd do something more like Dragon Age if they wanted to retain the "feel" of the original but go with an original system or go with a more Action Based system if they wanted to completely shake things up.

There's me not realizing that game was even on the Xbox. The PC port is so thoroughly, ridiculously (we're talking borderline System Shock 2 levels, here) mouse-driven that I had it pegged for a PC exclusive. I guess that's how you do a PC port right.

And any remakes or continuation of this series would mean people having another reason to give EA more money, so I'm against it.

008Zulu:
We already have KOTOR3, EA released the MMO a couple of years back.

For all it's bad points, TOR was a beautiful game. I would very much like to see KOTOR 1 and 2 remade using it's assets.

I agree. Loving the Consular path so far. Kinda boring in some parts though. A friend and I teamed up and plan on seeing all the class stories through one after another.

On Topic: I would love to see a KOTOR remake. KOTOR is one of my favorite RPGs and I still remember getting it for the first time and playing it.

The licensing probably wouldn't be too complicated. EA both owns BioWare and is in charge of Star Wars video game development now. If this happens, though, there must be a PC version.

Honestly though I would rather have a remake of KOTOR II, with the cut content restored. Because it had the better story.

I am Barbzilla, and I support this message. Unless it has anything to do with online, shooters, and/or slightly misshapen heads... in that case, I support a previous poster's insinuation that he kill all meatbags.

Meh. I must be the only one on this site who really wouldn't care about an HD remake of the game. What made the game so great wasn't it's combat or its graphics, but its story and the atmosphere behind it. And once you've completely experienced the story, there really was no reason to keep on playing it.

WouldYouKindly:
How about a properly finished sequel? That would be pretty cool too.

Also, I wonder if they'd still shackle it to a modified D&D system.

So, this is why Hollywood keeps remaking old movies, it knows that at least one part of the entertainment sector is getting done properly.

Seriously, I am very interested, but I would prefer an HD remake, than a HD reskin. Give Kotor 1 Kotor2's crafting and "TES PLEASE!!"

Oh, and if they decide that remaking KOTOR2 is a good idea (Hint: It is) actually give us the game it was supposed to be done, not the mess we got please.

Speaking of HD remakes...Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines remake please!

Please stop trying to remake good games. In most cases it ends badly.

With that said, I would pay and arm and a leg to see KotOR 3 made by Obsidian. Alas, with so many games on their plate I doubt this will ever happen.

If nothing else this guy has a fairly good pedigree when it comes to his game selections.

OT- I never did play the original KOTOR so I would jump on an HD re-release in a heartbeat.

high places? I couldn't think of a lower one!

Sadly, the train has run on KOTOR 3. It would've had to happen 5-6 years at the very least.

The only hope now is that another company makes it, which will never happen because of the licensing issues.

Redhawkmillenium:
The licensing probably wouldn't be too complicated. EA both owns BioWare and is in charge of Star Wars video game development now. If this happens, though, there must be a PC version.

Honestly though I would rather have a remake of KOTOR II, with the cut content restored. Because it had the better story.

^^This so very much! This, I would pay for. An HD version of the first game? Nah. Don't care about graphics in an RPG, but I'd love to see a console version of KOTOR II with all the content restored. I'm still angry they screwed the pooch with that godawful MMO-- it may be pretty, the mechanics might be okay, but the worldbuilding is ridiculous.

Should this idea come about would they get rid of the old fighting mechanics? or would they have it free form fighting like other games. all in all though I would buy the hell out of it then regardless of HD or not

WouldYouKindly:
There's nothing inherently wrong with such a system, but you're generally only going there for the sake of familiarity for your audience anyway. For all of my RPG experience, I still don't do tabletop gaming. My only experience with those systems is through games like KOTOR and Neverwinter Nights.

I agree. I've never really cared for that sort of system much, in fact one of the only things I found to really be disappointing about KOTOR was the fact that it used a dice roll system instead of true real time combat like the Jedi Knight series. The dice roll system just looks so awkward, while a decent real time combat system is fast paced and intense, so one can probably see why I prefer it.

OT: I find myself surprised to see that the fans haven't done this already. I mean sure, there's plenty of mods that improve the graphics somewhat but nothing that really says "you know this decade old game? Now it's graphics are up to today's standards!" like an official remake would probably do. That said, I've never been one to care much about graphics as long as they're good enough that I can tell what it is I'm looking at, so while I'd like to see an HD remake, it's not vital.

Defective Shade:
Should this idea come about would they get rid of the old fighting mechanics? or would they have it free form fighting like other games. all in all though I would buy the hell out of it then regardless of HD or not

I agree, but they'd probably have to rebalance the entire game to do that though, but I doubt it's impossible. I highly doubt they'd do that though, to avoid pissing off the purists if nothing else.

Ldude893:
I tried playing the first few hours of KOTOR last year. It felt so strangely generic, but that's likely due to the fact that every single other RPG is following the conventions of KOTOR now, sort of like how Seinfeld is considered derivative of itself due to its imitations of over the years. I guess it also explained why I didn't get into Mass Effect after playing KOTOR first.
From what I've played, it was good. An HD version just might grab me.

If you found the game boring as it was, increasing the resolution isn't going to change much.

OT: Why not just go full remake? Engine update, more content, protagonist voiceover, all that jazz. The Oddessy Engine isn't all that great of a game engine, so some tweaking would be in order.

Actually there is another reason why setting a new star wars game in the distance past is good for EA. With the upcoming trilogy inevitable rewriting canon a new franchise (it is always a franchise) may be undone if they set it during the original trilogy. So best to play it safe and go into the past where they have a lot of choice.

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