Batman: Arkham Knight's Titular Knight Is Not Actually Batman

Batman: Arkham Knight's Titular Knight Is Not Actually Batman

Batman Arkham Knight logo

Batman: Arkham Knight does feature the Dark Knight himself, but the title refers to a different Gotham crusader.

With today's announcement that Rocksteady is returning to finish the Arkham series with Batman: Arkham Knight, there's been a lot of (very understandable) excitement. The game's title, however, is admittedly odd. We're clearly not using the "Arkham [Location]" naming scheme anymore, but this sounds like an executive just mashed the Arkham brand with the Dark Knight movies and called it a day. As it turns out, there's a surprising twist behind the name: there will be a Knight of Arkham, but it's not Batman.

According to game director Sefton Hill, the Arkham Knight is an entirely new character created by Rocksteady and DC for the game. Batman: Arkham Knight is set to feature a strong cast of (at least) Scarecrow, Two-Face, Penguin, and Harley Quinn, but the Knight himself will probably play a significant role as a sort of anti-Batman. Hill says this new villain is a "formidable foe" for Bruce Wayne, able to "really challenge Batman to go head to head with him in lots of different ways."

Creating a new villain from scratch probably isn't the worst idea. Arkham Origins was really starting to scrape the bottom of the barrel for interesting enemies, and it even had the advantage of being a prequel. Arkham Knight will take place about a year after the events of Arkham City, meaning a lot of Batman's adversaries are off the table. We haven't had a chance to see the Arkham Knight himself in action, but here's hoping for a good antagonist - the villains will make or break Batman's final adventure.

Source: Game Informer, via IGN

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On the one hand, I'm excited for a new character.

On the other, I'm kinda bummed because my first assumption upon seeing the headline was that the Arkham city side-quest with Azrael might be about to actually go somewhere, but apparently not.

Cognimancer:
Batman: Arkham Knight's Titular Knight Is Not Actually Batman

Woohoo! Alright! We'll finally figure out what that cryptic mission that involved Azarel meant after he mentioned the order of St. Du-

According to game director Sefton Hill, the Arkham Knight is an entirely new character created by Rocksteady and DC for the game. Batman: Arkham Knight is set to feature a strong cast of (at least) Scarecrow, Two-Face, Penguin, and Harley Quinn, but the Knight himself will probably play a significant role as a sort of anti-Batman. Hill says this new villain is a "formidable foe" for Bruce Wayne, able to "really challenge Batman to go head to head with him in lots of different ways."

*sigh* I guess I can dream.

Still, having only heard about this today via this article (I didn't even read the other one earlier today), my money is the Order of St. Dumas playing a big role. Batman was totally unaware of the organization in Arkham City, which means a good opportunity to integrate the investigation mechanics that started in Arkham Asylum and got more fleshed out in Arkham city and much fleshed out in Arkham Origins.

"...but the Knight himself will probably play a significant role as a sort of anti-Batman. "

Ummm, WHY can't this be Prometheus instead of making up a new character?

gentlemanghost:
Ummm, WHY can't this be Prometheus instead of making up a new character?

Probably so they can dramatically reveal him/her to be an already-established character from the series. Or so that they can do whatever the hell they want with the Knight without having to worry about fans screaming about character betrayal.

It's Robin isn't it?

Considering there a number of these characters already (Killer Moth, Azrael, Prometheus) I don't see the need for creating another one. Mind you I'm not a fan of this series so anything that happened from about halfway through Asylum is a mystery. All that dreary combat, and in particular the 'roided up boss fights, get in the way of some very satisfying stealth. A shame.

NinjaDeathSlap:
On the one hand, I'm excited for a new character.

On the other, I'm kinda bummed because my first assumption upon seeing the headline was that the Arkham city side-quest with Azrael might be about to actually go somewhere, but apparently not.

It's not dead yet. Azrael just said that Arkham would burn. That's very vague, and I'm certain they can work him into the game easily. Perhaps this new character is part of the same order that Azrael is, and that's how Azrael knows about him.

Please don't just make him the anti-Batman. If you are going to make a whole new character, make a good one, not a rehash of a good guy, but evil.

$50 says it turns out to be a preexisting character. Possibly Azrael or Prometheus.
Or they could just say "fuck it!" and make it The Joker again...

gentlemanghost:
"...but the Knight himself will probably play a significant role as a sort of anti-Batman. "

Ummm, WHY can't this be Prometheus instead of making up a new character?

That's actually a very good question. It just seems like wasted resources when you already have a character who is exactly that. Maybe it's because Prometheus isn't that well known?

Azrael's prophecy is most certainly going to play a big role in Arkham Knight.

Azrael said that Batman would "close the gates of Hell". Guess what the logo on the back of the generic goons says in the CG trailer? Yep, that's right, "Hell's Gates".

It's the Joker isn't it? Can we just let him rot in peace at the bottom of a waterfall or something already?

CrazyBlaze:
It's the Joker isn't it? Can we just let him rot in peace at the bottom of a waterfall or something already?

If there is one rule in DC about the Joker, then it's "you can't kill him". Unless you're Batman Beyond. Then you can kill him twice in the same movie (as well as giving him a verbal beat down)

You know, Like everybody else, I was kinda excited reading that title, thinking wowee, follow-up on the Azazel plotline confirmed? a game starring Prometheus? Hush maybe? he's still out there with Bruce Wayne's face isn't he?"

But nope. Then I keep reading and find out that it's just some OC Rocksteady made, like as if this is now just a big budget fanfiction. However, if the made-up villain is named "Bebop" I will take back any criticisms I make and buy that game faster than you can say "He's a radical Bat"

*starts chanting Red Hood, Red Hood, Red Hood, Red Hood* Seriously, we got Nightwing and Tim Drake, why can't we have the Red Hood? But that aside, this should be good. I mean, this brand new villain is the game's titular character.

i'll be honest, that article confused me for a minute. the important detail is not that you don't play as batman, or that he's not in the game, just that he is not the 'arkham knight'. first time reading through i did not get that, and assumed it meant you were playing as somebody else

Come on, Jason Todd as the Red Hood!
Though they could do Azrael as well, but given how much killing the Joker meant to Jason in the Animated Film, I'd reckon he'd show up just because of it.

Just hope they get all the Development time they need, Origins was buggy as fuck

I really dont see it being Joker because in no can he be called Knight, maybe Red Hood since from most characters mentioned here thats the only one I know and could consider a knight, a new character could still be cool but it could also be terrible

It's not Batman? Well I'm placing my bets all on Hush.

malevolentcafe:
It's not Batman? Well I'm placing my bets all on Hush.

It won't be him but i'm sure he'll cause nothing but trouble while Bruce is Bat's.
Either it'll be a side mission or maybe one of his wards can take over that mission?

Lets see... who is a knight and related to batman?

... uh, all I can come up with is the knight and squire. That can't be right because he is the batman of England. And they tend to fight ridiculous enemies like British velociraptors with bowlerhats. At least from what i saw.

But he got his neck snapped by a bionic 12(?) year old. Who may or may not exist in the arkham verse. So that really throws everything I had out the window.

Maybe its Batwoman's psycho serial killer brother, James Gordon Jr. He is an anti batman. Then again, he is also suicide squad, who may or may not exist in the twisted arkham verse. Since the characters have to be famous, he is out too like the knight is.

I really wish they stay with a certain lore. This back and forth between 90s lore, movie lore, arkham lore, and comic lore is just one big cluster fuck. Arkham Origins being the biggest cluster fuck.

So I guess it will be a new character, If I can't find anyone that fits the bill. Doubt it though, DC doesn't really make new characters.

Bindal:

CrazyBlaze:
It's the Joker isn't it? Can we just let him rot in peace at the bottom of a waterfall or something already?

If there is one rule in DC about the Joker, then it's "you can't kill him". Unless you're Batman Beyond. Then you can kill him twice in the same movie (as well as giving him a verbal beat down)

Or shoot his face off, have dead shot steal his girlfriend, and have his skinned off face be worn by a psycho path who lives in the sewers and fight the well armed hobos that live in a bunker with no women. Also a radiation themed villian who I can't remember and his daughter with daddy issues.

I think the comics just won.

Joker is getting so boring you might as well go the fucked up route. Everyone's been using him way too much.

Ultratwinkie:
Lets see... who is a knight and related to batman?

... uh, all I can come up with is the knight and squire. That can't be right because he is the batman of England. And they tend to fight ridiculous enemies like British velociraptors with bowlerhats. At least from what i saw.

My only contact with Knight and Squire were in the Battle for the Cowl storyline, which was pretty brief. But now I feel like I need to read all of their material.

elvor0:

Ultratwinkie:
Lets see... who is a knight and related to batman?

... uh, all I can come up with is the knight and squire. That can't be right because he is the batman of England. And they tend to fight ridiculous enemies like British velociraptors with bowlerhats. At least from what i saw.

My only contact with Knight and Squire were in the Battle for the Cowl storyline, which was pretty brief. But now I feel like I need to read all of their material.

Ill narrow it down for you, I saw the velociraptors in Batman Incorporated. Its ended, but you should find a compilation novel of it. It ended recently. It was one panel explaining who is an ally of Batman's organization to keep the earth safe.

Batman Incorporated is incredibly silly. He even recruited a cow to be one of his side kicks. There is even a Japanese Batman with an anime girl sidekick in there if I remember correctly.

Bindal:

CrazyBlaze:
It's the Joker isn't it? Can we just let him rot in peace at the bottom of a waterfall or something already?

If there is one rule in DC about the Joker, then it's "you can't kill him". Unless you're Batman Beyond. Then you can kill him twice in the same movie (as well as giving him a verbal beat down)

Or its Injustice and Superman punches a hole through him.

Also I was gonna say:

When are you all going to learn its the Joker. It's ALWAYS the Joker.

I personally am really glad and excited to see a new character. It gets really tiresome when games leech off canon or existing expanded universe stuff. My favorite Star Wars characters didn't even exist when the movies came out. They were created much later, explicitly for the use in games. This lets the devs make the character around the game story and mechanics, instead of forcing the story to fit a more standard mold.

What this really shows though is commitment and faith from DC comics to Rocksteady. These games are no longer just really good fanfiction - making their own villains means that they get to add to the canon villain roster, meaning that the Knight could be used in comics or movies down the road. If that happened it would be a big pat on the head and badge of honor I guess.

I thought Arkham Origins was... alright. Not as good as Arkham City, but it was still fairly enjoyable. Troy Baker earned his place alongside Kevin Michael Richardson (The Batman), Richard Epcar (MK vs DC, Injustice) and John DiMaggio (Under the Red Hood) as a great not-Mark Hamill Joker (even if one might see a few similarities). The combat and stealthing were still as awesome as ever, though I'm not sure I liked having to do specific side missions to unlock certain upgrades (like having to beat that one Bane goon to get the Disarm-Destroy combo).

It had its issues, though; Gotham didn't feel particularly "alive", save for being swarmed with criminals and asshole, trigger-happy cops, and the villain lineup wasn't exactly riveting. The boss fights were decent, though; Deathstroke was certainly fun, and Firefly, even though it was oddly similar to that awful Poison Ivy fight from the first game, actually felt intense. They just never lived up to the Mr. Freeze fight.

But no matter how many gripes I had with Origins, I still LOVE the Arkham franchise, and I eagerly await Arkham Knight; I just hope they can end the series on a high note.

It's Talon. They're gonna tie in the Court of Owls.

Bindal:

CrazyBlaze:
It's the Joker isn't it? Can we just let him rot in peace at the bottom of a waterfall or something already?

If there is one rule in DC about the Joker, then it's "you can't kill him". Unless you're Batman Beyond. Then you can kill him twice in the same movie (as well as giving him a verbal beat down)

Funny that, considering the Joker was a one time nemesis, and was killed in the first number... by Batman, to add injure to the wound (at the time, the "no kill" rule didn't exist).

However, we can always trust WB to shoot on the foot themselves with that. In Origins, the idea that the Joker was a big bad was kind of spoilery, yet the Joker and Bane were the two big factions in MP, they spent a lot of marketing in convincing people the new voice actor was as good as Hamill, and they even give him its own trailer. So, by the time they revealed who the mysterious character was, and that the story was about their first encounter, nobody was surprised, at all...

OT: I believe its a safe bet to assume the "knight" is someone known by Batman, and his identity will be a "big reveal", but I just hope the Joker is kept buried and dead in the game. Recordings are fair game, but having it return as a nemesis at any point would be incredibly lazy.

Personally I think that if they wanted an anti-batman, they should have just gone with Hush. He's probably the most dangerous foe that Batman has ever faced in my personal opinion.

elvor0:

Ultratwinkie:
Lets see... who is a knight and related to batman?

... uh, all I can come up with is the knight and squire. That can't be right because he is the batman of England. And they tend to fight ridiculous enemies like British velociraptors with bowlerhats. At least from what i saw.

My only contact with Knight and Squire were in the Battle for the Cowl storyline, which was pretty brief. But now I feel like I need to read all of their material.

There was a 6-issue Knight and Squire mini-series a couple of years ago, right before the New 52 launched. It was a pretty cool series (there really is more to them than just "Batman and Robin only English") and I'm pretty sure it got collected in a trade if you can track down a copy.

OT: I was really hoping for Azrael until I got to the 'brand new character' bit. I'll still cross my fingers for him to pop up anyway.

Well it isn't the first time they created a new character, Quincy sharpe was created for batman Arkham asylum and so was frank Bowles, both them characters, especially Quincy sharpe, were done pretty well, so I'm not worried one bit

Ultratwinkie:

elvor0:

Ultratwinkie:
Lets see... who is a knight and related to batman?

... uh, all I can come up with is the knight and squire. That can't be right because he is the batman of England. And they tend to fight ridiculous enemies like British velociraptors with bowlerhats. At least from what i saw.

My only contact with Knight and Squire were in the Battle for the Cowl storyline, which was pretty brief. But now I feel like I need to read all of their material.

Ill narrow it down for you, I saw the velociraptors in Batman Incorporated. Its ended, but you should find a compilation novel of it. It ended recently. It was one panel explaining who is an ally of Batman's organization to keep the earth safe.

Batman Incorporated is incredibly silly. He even recruited a cow to be one of his side kicks. There is even a Japanese Batman with an anime girl sidekick in there if I remember correctly.

Rogue 9:

elvor0:

Ultratwinkie:
Lets see... who is a knight and related to batman?

... uh, all I can come up with is the knight and squire. That can't be right because he is the batman of England. And they tend to fight ridiculous enemies like British velociraptors with bowlerhats. At least from what i saw.

My only contact with Knight and Squire were in the Battle for the Cowl storyline, which was pretty brief. But now I feel like I need to read all of their material.

There was a 6-issue Knight and Squire mini-series a couple of years ago, right before the New 52 launched. It was a pretty cool series (there really is more to them than just "Batman and Robin only English") and I'm pretty sure it got collected in a trade if you can track down a copy.

OT: I was really hoping for Azrael until I got to the 'brand new character' bit. I'll still cross my fingers for him to pop up anyway.

Aww, that's a shame, I was hoping for more british raptors in bowler hats. Well I'll pick up the 6 issue paperback anyway, just for kicks.

Yeah I always thought the idea of Batman Incorporated was a bit silly. My collection of Batman pre 52 runs up to just before Incorporated started being a series, the 1 shot after he comes back from travelling through time (a story much more complicated than it needed to be, by the way) where he takes Damien out and meets the dude who becomes Batwing.

The cow and anime robin does not surprise me. I mean I like Grant Morrisons stories, but some times the way he writes decends into madness. He's like Hideo Kojimas wackier, western, comic book writing cousin.

Wait..I'm confused. So we won't be playing as Batman? Who then?

Damn these developers and their cryptic messaging.

DarkhoIlow:
Wait..I'm confused. So we won't be playing as Batman? Who then?

Damn these developers and their cryptic messaging.

No, we will. It's just that the "Arkham Knight" is somebody else, presumably the big bad of this story. Supposedly a completely new character. My guess is that whoever's running the asylum now (probably Ra's al Ghul or, if the Lazarus pit in City was the only one, his successor) wants a more controllable pointy-eared superhero and decides to make their own.

On the off chance that it is an existing character, here are some of my top picks:
1. Hugo Strange. Yeah, he got blown up in City, but death is cheap in comics. Also, he's obsessed with replacing Batman, has ties to Arkham, and his interview tapes even mention that he has his own makeshift batsuit, which I'd expect to look like the one in the screenshots.
2. Prometheus. His origin story is already "reverse Batman", he was on a wanted poster back in Arkham Asylum, and he dresses like a knight.
3. Jean Paul Valley. Remember, Michael Lane has already taken over as Azrael, so ol' Crazy Paul is free to take a different identity. Plus, he has experience wearing the cowl as a completely bonkers counterpart to Bruce.

 

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