Origin May Ban Early Titanfall Players After All

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Origin May Ban Early Titanfall Players After All

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Vince Zampella says he assumes Origin will ban players who modify game files to get access to the game early.

Well, this is a bit of a tizzy. Earlier, Respawn Entertainment head Vince Zampella Tweeted that players lucky enough to score an early copy of Titanfall would not be banned, though he stressed that the servers would probably go up and down. Now, in response to a fans question about whether using a work-around to enable early access to the PC version of the game would get an Origin ban, he admitted that, yes, Origin probably would ban you for that.

The work-around, which was posted in this reddit thread, has since been deleted, but it did involve using a VPN to change your IP location, and downloading a modified .exe file. Apparently, those who did the exploit were able to boot into the game, though some had trouble finding servers to play on.

Any way you look at it, it is kind of sketch, so on the one hand, you can't really blame Origin for banning people who exploit it.

On the other hand though, when you tell PC gamers that they can do something, well, don't be surprised when they figure out a way to do it.

For now, even if you do find yourself with early access to the game, it might be best to simply err on the side of caution and wait until the official release date.

Source: Twitter

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Make up your goddamn mind...[1]

Also, am I the only one who is puzzled as to why someone would want early-access to a multiplayer-only game? I mean, it's like breaking into the field to get there before the rest of the team. You might as well wait until everyone else is on board.

[1] Because while I know there's an obvious difference between what is allowed (purchased copies) and not (modded copies), it appears my comment, which aimed at the broader contradiction between the two stances, is being taken at face value.

I think Zampella's okay on the matter was more targeted at people who may have gotten their hands on an Xbone copy.

Well of course they're going to ban you if you mod the game (for whatever purpose). This seems kind of obvious.
And the original statement was "About playing early: We won't stop or ban legit copies."
Modded copies aren't legit copies.

Never really seen the appeal of playing a game a few hours early, especially when its a MP only game and you won't have anyone to play with. Personally I can wait a bit and the risk trying to get in early isn't worth the trouble imo.

The Gentleman:
Make up your goddamn mind...

To be fair, he was probably referring to anyone that got Titanfall early because some stores decided to release their copies before others. Digital distribution and PC was a bit of a different matter.

The Gentleman:
Make up your goddamn mind...

They did?
If the copy runs right away, you can play as early as you want. (that's the case for consoles)
If you need to tinker with it to get it running, you get banned. (that's the case for PC)

Hang on... So this is people that bought the game that CRACKED it, risking a ban, in order to play the game earlier? Because that just sounds like a lot of stupid people to me.

That sounds fair enough, if people are using cracked files and network tricks to play the game its understandable. Yes they may have bought the game and own the plastic disk but EA own the servers and they have the right to decide how and when people access them, if they dont want people using cracked files to access the servers thats fine.

This sounds fair actually. If you get an early copy in your mail or something, its fair game and you can play it. the method posted in that reddit is basically cracking your game, and piracy is illegal hence the ban.

The Gentleman:

Also, am I the only one who is puzzled as to why someone would want early-access to a multiplayer-only game? I mean, it's like breaking into the field to get there before the rest of the team. You might as well wait until everyone else is on board.

Imagine being able to easily explore the maps, learn all the secrets and then outsmart everyone on the field on day 1. Imagine being able to plan and practice tactics with your group in the actual game before others get a chance to. Its an advantage for people that are playing the game more than casually.

He said yes to players getting the game early. Not yes to people who modify the game for early access.

Terrible and misleading title.
There is no "after all", this is a completely different illegitiment method to play early.

As much as I enjoy hating EA, this is ok, if they allowed people to fuck with the files to their hearts content the game would be riddled with wallhacks by the weekend

This is a ridiculous article. You're reporting on something that never happened as though it was a big deal.

How it actually went was this
'Hey we're not going to ban people who accidentally get sent a copy of the game early'

'Well what if we hack Origin to get the game early?'

'No. That's something completely different. Of course we'd ban you for that'

How is this even a headline? It only makes sense as news if you really misunderstood what they said the first time round, and if the first headlines had been decent we should even have had people asking these questions. And it's definitely completely incorrect to say 'Origin May Ban Early Titanfall Players After All'

BrotherRool:
This is a ridiculous article. You're reporting on something that never happened as though it was a big deal.

How it actually went was this
'Hey we're not going to ban people who accidentally get sent a copy of the game early'

'Well what if we hack Origin to get the game early?'

'No. That's something completely different. Of course we'd ban you for that'

How is this even a headline? It only makes sense as news if you really misunderstood what they said the first time round, and if the first headlines had been decent we should even have had people asking these questions. And it's definitely completely incorrect to say 'Origin May Ban Early Titanfall Players After All'

B-but but the clicks and the add revenue
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OT: It makes sense, what doesnt make sense is why would anyone want to play a multiplayer only game sooner then everyone else.

Strazdas:
This sounds fair actually. If you get an early copy in your mail or something, its fair game and you can play it. the method posted in that reddit is basically cracking your game, and piracy is illegal hence the ban.

Piracy and cracking are not the same thing. They are not pirating the game but modifying the game they have bought and downloaded early from Origin.

CpT_x_Killsteal:
Well of course they're going to ban you if you mod the game (for whatever purpose). This seems kind of obvious.
And the original statement was "About playing early: We won't stop or ban legit copies."
Modded copies aren't legit copies.

There's a difference between 'modding' and 'cracking'. Not even the highly esteemed Steam would deal with this kind of behaviour.

Haters are gonna hate.

sounds fair to me. i still have to wait over 3 hours wile i write this before i can play the game. i did purchase it through origin so i had the luck to pre load the game. which i think was good since its a 50gb game.

Zipa:

Strazdas:
This sounds fair actually. If you get an early copy in your mail or something, its fair game and you can play it. the method posted in that reddit is basically cracking your game, and piracy is illegal hence the ban.

Piracy and cracking are not the same thing. They are not pirating the game but modifying the game they have bought and downloaded early from Origin.

technically correct. But what they are doing is still illegal, and even if it werent its against their terms of service for which they have a right to terminate the service (banning).

Strazdas:

Zipa:

Strazdas:
This sounds fair actually. If you get an early copy in your mail or something, its fair game and you can play it. the method posted in that reddit is basically cracking your game, and piracy is illegal hence the ban.

Piracy and cracking are not the same thing. They are not pirating the game but modifying the game they have bought and downloaded early from Origin.

technically correct. But what they are doing is still illegal, and even if it werent its against their terms of service for which they have a right to terminate the service (banning).

Cracking is only illegal if you are doing something like cracking DRM to circumvent having to buy the game. Its likely against the TOS but not the law. Otherwise modding would be illegal to as you are modifying the game files just like here.

Sigh. I came in here hoping to dump all over EA for another dick move. Instead they are being all reasonable and shit. Oh well, you'll do something reprehensible next week EA.

VladG:
Sigh. I came in here hoping to dump all over EA for another dick move. Instead they are being all reasonable and shit. Oh well, you'll do something reprehensible next week EA.

lol. well, they are getting a bit better lately. but yes, there is always something that has to come up that makes them look bad again.
but for now, thats alright and fair, and even i got a refund without any hassle so that i can purchase the season pass version, because i would have bought the extra maps anyway. so for this EA gets a thumbs up from me.

Fucking with the game files will nearly always get you banned in a multiplayer game. This is not a surprise nor something I'd actually blame Origin, EA or the Titanfall guys for. A modded .exe file is usually what separates legit buyers from pirates.

empty threats. no one will be banned for a fixed .exe file from origin. otherwise tons of people would get banned each time data gets corrupted.
this reeks a bit of "EA made him say it", but it's just not plausible from a technical standpoint. no way.

what is more concerning in my opinion is that the game is already full of cheaters. and from the battlefield series we know what a notoriously terrible track record EA has with managing those.

Strazdas:
Imagine being able to easily explore the maps, learn all the secrets and then outsmart everyone on the field on day 1. Imagine being able to plan and practice tactics with your group in the actual game before others get a chance to. Its an advantage for people that are playing the game more than casually.

I dunno. If it has offline/LAN multiplayer (like the COD series, and these are the same guys), then you can do the same thing with a regular access copy as well.

Hmmm... Yeah, I think I'm calling it now: Titanfail.

Something is going to go hilariously wrong with this game, except that it won't be funny for anyone who's buying. But we seem to be falling into a pattern, by which we see Wile E. Coyote trying to avoid getting flattened under a rock that he's fallen off of the cliff with and comedy just keeps flipping him over so that he gets the crush anyway.

Grabehn:
Hang on... So this is people that bought the game that CRACKED it, risking a ban, in order to play the game earlier? Because that just sounds like a lot of stupid people to me.

Going to crack a (nearly?) multi-player only game to play early before any other players or servers are running. Genius.

OT: I don't see why EA really cares what a tiny subset of people (who purchased the game legitimately) do when it ultimately doesn't impact their business or the gameplay of other players. I guess it's more the principle of the thing that they aren't as in control of the game's release as they'd like to be.

Strazdas:
This sounds fair actually. If you get an early copy in your mail or something, its fair game and you can play it. the method posted in that reddit is basically cracking your game, and piracy is illegal hence the ban.

The Gentleman:

Also, am I the only one who is puzzled as to why someone would want early-access to a multiplayer-only game? I mean, it's like breaking into the field to get there before the rest of the team. You might as well wait until everyone else is on board.

Imagine being able to easily explore the maps, learn all the secrets and then outsmart everyone on the field on day 1. Imagine being able to plan and practice tactics with your group in the actual game before others get a chance to. Its an advantage for people that are playing the game more than casually.

Yes of course, it's not like the open beta already had a bit of that to it. Though it is decidedly an unfair edge to get the game in advance of others when it's multiplayer only.

I'm actually amazed this is coming out on the same day everywhere. EA usually pumps things out 3 days early stateside so when EU players get on everyone else already has all the worthwhile toys and has memorised the maps, quite unsporting really.

I would like to point out to anyone who has an issue with this that Steam's official policy is that using cracks or VPNs to circumvent the release date is bannable.

I dislike Origin and will not be playing this game, that said, he never said you could use a work around to play the game early. He said if you had a legit copy and played early you would not be banned, from context you can see he was referring to console players.

It's not like you can get access to Titanfall without owning a full license anyway. You have to have the game pre-loaded and a key attached to your account for the work-around to work in the first place.

"It's unfair to get a head start" people claim, well.. perhaps we should start demanding that games avoid the unlock systems that have become so mainstream these days?

As far as advantages against people who play casually? The unlock system has made sure of that. Weapon balance is still pretty stupid in Titanfall, and casuals will get absolutely dominated anyway. In a week it won't matter and will still have the same "You must spend this much time being cannon fodder."

They simply need to swing that banhammer far and wide. All there is to it.

The White Hunter:
I'm actually amazed this is coming out on the same day everywhere. EA usually pumps things out 3 days early stateside so when EU players get on everyone else already has all the worthwhile toys and has memorised the maps, quite unsporting really.

Except it isn't?

NA PC release date: March 11 2014
EU PC release date: March 13 2014

toph1980:

The White Hunter:
I'm actually amazed this is coming out on the same day everywhere. EA usually pumps things out 3 days early stateside so when EU players get on everyone else already has all the worthwhile toys and has memorised the maps, quite unsporting really.

Except it isn't?

NA PC release date: March 11 2014
EU PC release date: March 13 2014

Yep, found that out 10 minutes after posting. Good job EA.

To my knowledge, no one's been banned yet for doing this, so it sounds like EA's taking the smart approach here: let the people playing early off the hook since the work around is completely harmless, but warn them about mucking around with game files in the future.

I'm not condoning hacking, but I highly doubt that Origin can afford banning players. They sorely need a userbase for anything not Battlefield related.

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