Teen Kills Own Grandmother After Scolding - Update

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Azkar Almsivi:

Also people who skimmed it and pounced into the comments in ecstatic glee for a chance to shake their head and look down on this "new low" should also take more time to read things. Misinformation is bad, mm'kay?

I don't think most people just skimmed this to proceed throwing poop. Also this article doesn't get better the closer one reads it.
The source doesn't even clarify if the boy had to interrupt his game, it just claims so out of context. Neither does it say anything about what the dispute with his grandmother was about. You get the feeling the writer of the source just thought there was nothing to specify here, because of an initial belief that videogames are bad.
In the end, you know fuckall about what happened there, appart from boy kills grandma, after reading the source, which makes those last two lines of subjectivity so infuriating.

I can understand someone doing a rush job, finding controversial gaming-related story, paraphrasing it, boom, done. Realise fuckup later and edit to apologize. What I cannot wrap my head around is the subjective statement. On a site full of gamers, who are fast to jump to defend their media being accused of being related to aggressive behavior, to go and write something this undifferentiated is just far from smart. And the writer should take the poop people left here for him to make sure his future stuff will be better recieved, even if it is as controversial as the story at hand.

A-D.:
Actually, its sort of implies it. The fact that he states he blacked out, which to be fair is a tenious defense as far as that goes since it cant be proven or disproven easily, and since the report goes further to say that when he realized what had happened that he went to get help and report what happened means that it was an affect-reaction rather than any kind of premeditated action.

He didnt plan it out on the way home, otherwise he wouldnt have said anything, even IF he realized after the fact that it was dumb you dont incriminate yourself. Therefore it is likely to assume that he wasnt happy on the way home, but the scolding, whatever it was about triggered the reaction and he flew into rage which by the way CAN cause black-outs because at some point, the higher brain functions just shut down and you revert to animalistic instincts.

In short no matter what, the game didnt cause it directly therefore it is false to imply that it did, regardless of how you spin this. I might get angry if somebody interrupts me in the middle of watching a movie, but that doesnt mean if i get angry later because i stubbed my toe that it was caused by the movie-interruption.

I'd rather just read the accused statement from the police report rather listen to implications from a forum theory crafter.
Since, you know. He would be right.

Sounds like mental problems and abusive grandmother to me more than anything that happened in a game. Sure he may have been in a horrible mood due to loosing in DOTA which ahs helped the trigger to explode, but the trigger is very much his mental situation here.

Alex Co:
According to Police Officer 3 Jaime de Jesus,

Jesus was a police officer - confirmed.

Alex Co:
Teen Kills Own Grandmother After Scolding - Update

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Editor's Note: The original headline for this story - "Teen Kills Own Grandmother for Interrupting Dota Match" was misleading, and we at The Escapist apologize for the error. The headline was seemingly based on the source article's headline, which appears to be entirely inaccurate. Please accept our apologies for any confusion or frustration this may have caused. We do not want to be the type of media responsible for demonizing video games, and this was clearly counter to that goal.

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The boy came from a broken home, with both his parents already having families of their own. The victim, whom raised the boy herself, was living alone with the 17-year old. Since the boy is still a minor, he's been turned over to the custody of the country's social workers.

I don't think this story of a 16-year stabbing his "friend" to death over a Dota account hacking incident could be topped, but there you go. Killing your own grandma whom raised you herself over a game? That's just a new level of low.

Source: ABS-CBN

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I find it EXTREMELY hilarious (in a bad way) that the editors note CLEARLY states that the escapist does not want to be the kind of magazine that demonize video games, and the article still finishes with such a cheap shot sentence.

Was this really about the DOTA game? The article itself states that the boy came from a broken home probably rejected by BOTH his parents (by the look of things) and a videogame is the cause of this? Fuck. I wish people would sometimes TRY to look at the context...

To be fair, just like all people, some grandmothers are horrible. I don't know what would drive someone to kill their own grandmother and can't assess whether the kid deserves sympathy or punishment, but I'm not refusing the possibility. The kid was home already so I hardly think the game actually had anything to do with the incident.

"We do not want to be the type of media responsible for demonizing video games, and this was clearly counter to that goal."

But those mad click, yo.

It's not the first incident like this, and it doesn't have to do with the video game.

I recognize this behavior enough to have a fair degree of certainty when I say that the kid is probably a full blown narcicist. That is narcicistic personality disorder.

It reminds me a lot of the case of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Blackwell .

Karadalis:

saltyanon:

teh_Canape:

the philippines cause teens to turn violent
it's a known fact

The award for that should go to the USA. It has exponentially more school shootings than the Philippines.

It also has exponentially more schools and more kids going to said schools then the Philippines... OH SNAP!

Seriously thought the number of violent crimes has been getting lower and lower for years now despite EVERYTHING.

The news coverages of these extreme incidents however make it seem that they happen all the time....

You're forgetting guns, and glorification of violence in media. The US has also been in more wars. I can go on and on. Take all shows that are made in the US and take all shows made in the Philippines and it will be obvious which glorifies violence more.

tzimize:

Alex Co:
Teen Kills Own Grandmother After Scolding - Update

DoTA

Editor's Note: The original headline for this story - "Teen Kills Own Grandmother for Interrupting Dota Match" was misleading, and we at The Escapist apologize for the error. The headline was seemingly based on the source article's headline, which appears to be entirely inaccurate. Please accept our apologies for any confusion or frustration this may have caused. We do not want to be the type of media responsible for demonizing video games, and this was clearly counter to that goal.

-snip-

The boy came from a broken home, with both his parents already having families of their own. The victim, whom raised the boy herself, was living alone with the 17-year old. Since the boy is still a minor, he's been turned over to the custody of the country's social workers.

I don't think this story of a 16-year stabbing his "friend" to death over a Dota account hacking incident could be topped, but there you go. Killing your own grandma whom raised you herself over a game? That's just a new level of low.

Source: ABS-CBN

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I find it EXTREMELY hilarious (in a bad way) that the editors note CLEARLY states that the escapist does not want to be the kind of magazine that demonize video games, and the article still finishes with such a cheap shot sentence.

Was this really about the DOTA game? The article itself states that the boy came from a broken home probably rejected by BOTH his parents (by the look of things) and a videogame is the cause of this? Fuck. I wish people would sometimes TRY to look at the context...

For a website that revolves so much around video games, they sure seem to hate video games a lot.

OT: Not that this isn't a sad news story, but after hearing a bunch of them over the years, it's hard for me to keep caring.

Glad I don't know anybody of such disposition.

I have worked with quite a few Phillipinos, everyone of them with a crazy story to tell. My personal favorite was a girl whose father tried shooting her sister for having sex with the poor neighbors. Different world man.

It seems from the article that the scolding was the trigger point rather than anything to do with the fact he was playing dota just before the incident. Unless I am misreading the story it doesn't imply the scolding was in any way related to his gaming activities and I would imagine the subject and nature of the scolding would probably add a lot of context to this.

Don't get me wrong, killing your grandmother who took you in and raised you can't be right, but nothing here would seem to suggest this was really gaming related and I am not certain any conclusions can be drawn about this without a clearer understanding of the events that took place and of the general state of their relationship.

JakobBloch:
Lets take a step back here.

The kid said he blacked out. When he comes to he realises that he is actually cleaning up the crime scene. He then goes to another family member to seek aid in what to do. After surveying the scene, they go to the authorities.

Judging by this I wager that the DOTA game had little to nothing to do with the actual man-slaughter. This is a case where we the public don't really have enough information to build a reasonable conclusion.

Was the grandma a loving custodian or had she been the horror of the kids life? Has the kid shown previous signs of uncontrollable anger? We know the kid was from a broken home. When did this happen? He has 2 living parents. Why were they not taking care of him?

This is a sensational story with very little meat on it. It is meant to inflame but not actually bring any facts to light.

My thoughts on the subject are similar. This is really, really, bad, but like most similar cases from Asia I tend to think there is a lot of information missing, probably because unlike the US, a lot of other countries (even US Territories like the Philippines) don't like the air their dirty laundry quite the same way. As another article someone here linked (having to do with the stabbing of an 11 year old over a DoTA hacking incident), these games can be big business over there, money is usually involved, and when money/betting gets involved organized crime and gang activity go along with it.

If you look, you'll find plenty of cases in the US of kids (as young as 10) knee deep in gang activity, pushing drugs, gambling, and getting killed for it. My first thought in both of these incidents is that a lot of money was lost, in this incident for example we know that the grandmother was picking this kid up at a place where gambling was probably happening, we hear about the kid being "scolded" but that just means there was some kind of an argument. While it seems beyond the pale that he would have beaten the woman who raised him to death, we don't know exactly how nice she was to him, what we do know is that she apparently delivered him to places where people gamble on video games, and picked him up. It makes me wonder if this was a fight that got nasty because she backed him on a game and he lost, or she was trying to extort winnings from him, or something similar. It doesn't seem likely she was disapprovingly trying to convince him not to go there, since she dropped him up and picked him up, on a lot of levels it's sort of like dropping your kid off and picking him up at a casino, dog track, or known underground gambling den (where such isn't legal). Granted I suppose it's possible that he was just there gaming in a general sense, but given that particular game and what it's used for there, is seems a little fishy.

I don't know anything of course, it's a truly messed up story, I just agree that it seems overly sensationalized and truthfully I think the whole "video game" angle is being played up. A better analogy would probably be likening it to a casino with video poker machines or something, the video gaming itself being incidental to the story. What's more I doubt it would have gotten international attention if say this happened and the last thing the kid did was play tiles (Mah Jong or whatever) at a local hangout.

I'll also say when money and gambling is involved, things can get really nasty, really quick, and all kinds of very close relationships can get nasty and violent at the drop of a hat. Having worked Casino security for a decade, let's just say it wouldn't be the first parent attacked by a kid (albeit one old enough to gamble) for one reason or another based on some game.... and while it goes beyond the concerns of security, these stories when you bother to hear the whole thing rarely make much "sense" or have happy endings. As a result, I do not gamble, and I'll be the first person in the world to tell you not to, it does crazy things to people, and every one of them never thought it could happen to them.

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