Star Wars Episode VII: Is Oxford Student Ben Kenobi's Descendant?

 Pages 1 2 NEXT
 

Star Wars Episode VII: Is Oxford Student Ben Kenobi's Descendant?

If so, this will be the first time on the big screen for Maisie Richardson-Sellers.

Star Wars Episode VII has started filming, and while most of the cast have been chosen - not officially confirmed, mind you, but Disney has a secret file locked away in its deepest dungeon guarded by Pluto himself with all the details - not every part has been filled yet. Among the missing is Ben Kenobi's descendant, who's meant to meet Luke, Han and Leia's kids and (presumably) save the universe together. But if Hollywood can be believed, the most likely candidate for this role is Oxford student Maisie Richardson-Sellers. If she gets it, this will be her big screen debut.

She's a stage actress, appearing at the Oxford Playhouse for the most part, with side trips to the Edinburgh Fringe. The Oxford Student seems to like her work, and she co-founded a theatre company of her own; if you happen to have lived in London in the past couple years, you may have seen her Footprint Company in action.

This is all speculation at the moment, just like pretty much everything else to do with Star Wars Episode VII. However it'd be interesting to see it happen; a virtual unknown could have a lot of fun with a major role like this, particularly since it'd carry on for the next few movies in the franchise. Abrams does have a history of casting unknowns, and he's the one who wrote the script. It's certainly a career maker, if she can pull it off.

Source: Hollywood Reporter

Permalink

Ben Kenobi's descendant? Has this been confirmed?

That's pretty much pissing on his grave. After all that "living the way of the Jedi" and not allowing romantic feelings, how the f did ben end up with a kid?

She is clearly descendant from Lando Calrissian, he is the only black guy in the galaxy far far away.

Well to be fair she could as easily be a sister's grandkid, or something along those lines. It's not very clear. Nothing about this entire song-and-dance has been very clear, which is almost certainly part of its marketing strategy.

Incidentally for those of you out there thinking 'Sellers? Any relation to Peter?' the answer's no, at least as far as I can tell.

Hawkeye21:
She is clearly descendant from Lando Calrissian, he is the only black guy in the galaxy far far away.

Maybe Lando and Kenobi had a romantic encounter, Star Wars has some weird shit so two guys having a baby is probably not too crazy. Maybe she's some sort of weird clone that he had commissioned when he was in that cloning place, although it would spoil my head-canon where the prequels never happened.

It seems weird that he would have a direct descendant though so maybe she is a niece and we are to believe that Kenobi had a sibling he didn't talk about or DUN DUN DUUUUN he thought was dead. And they are Khan.

That. Is. Bullshit. I mean, the idea is bullshit. Even if old Ben Kenobi had family, he would not know who they were. He was taken as a baby, just like the rest of the Jedi of the period. He had no contact with his family after that. He wouldn't even know who they are.

Such a stupid idea if it's true. I agree with Hawkeye 21 on this. Clearly it's Lando's git.

NLS:
Ben Kenobi's descendant? Has this been confirmed?

That's pretty much pissing on his grave. After all that "living the way of the Jedi" and not allowing romantic feelings, how the f did ben end up with a kid?

That's pretty much the first thing I thought of when I read "Ben Kenobi's Descendant."

She certainly looks like a strong confident person in that picture of her, rather than cutesy damsel in distress, so that's something to look forward to.

My ideal situation would be to see her kick Solo in the balls for calling her toots or something.

That's got to be a mistake. I don't even think Lucas himself could come up with an idea that bad...

*rewatches Attack of the Clones*

... well probably not again anyway...

Dear JJ,

No. Just no.

Sincerely,
Everyone

I guessing maybe a distance descendant like maybe she is link from Kenobi relative, not directly from Kenobi himself?

NLS:
Ben Kenobi's descendant? Has this been confirmed?

That's pretty much pissing on his grave. After all that "living the way of the Jedi" and not allowing romantic feelings, how the f did ben end up with a kid?

Well if Wookiepedia is to believed Obi-Wan did have several romantic or nearly-romantic relationships, and also descendant doesn't necessarily mean *direct* descendant. We're also talking about a universe where cloning is a thing. That all said, I think it's generally pretty weak writing when every character needs to be linked to another.

CriticalMiss:

Hawkeye21:
She is clearly descendant from Lando Calrissian, he is the only black guy in the galaxy far far away.

Maybe Lando and Kenobi had a romantic encounter, Star Wars has some weird shit so two guys having a baby is probably not too crazy. Maybe she's some sort of weird clone that he had commissioned when he was in that cloning place, although it would spoil my head-canon where the prequels never happened.

It seems weird that he would have a direct descendant though so maybe she is a niece and we are to believe that Kenobi had a sibling he didn't talk about or DUN DUN DUUUUN he thought was dead. And they are Khan.

Well, that still makes a lot more sense than the prequel trilogy

So all of that KenobixVentress fanfiction has some merit?

Baresark:
That. Is. Bullshit. I mean, the idea is bullshit. Even if old Ben Kenobi had family, he would not know who they were. He was taken as a baby, just like the rest of the Jedi of the period. He had no contact with his family after that. He wouldn't even know who they are.

Such a stupid idea if it's true. I agree with Hawkeye 21 on this. Clearly it's Lando's git.

But thank goodness they've gone down the route of 'let's just shoehorn every previous character into the new movie in some form of reference'

Lord knows what would happen if they actually tried to come up with new original characters on their own independent journeys through the mythical galaxy. Next thing you know they'll be leaving Tatooine to visit other planets, or using a named spaceship besides the Millenium Falcon, or (Heaven forbid) having new alien characters that are more than single scene appearances to handwave a plot point and then are forgotten about forever.

-double post -

image

Sorry about that.

...Eh? He had...children? No he didn't.

...Did he? I fear this does not make any sense. I don't see why they'd choose to add a character with such a tenuous and bewildering origin story. Doesn't it make sense to have her be...almost anybody else?

Mahorfeus:
So all of that KenobixVentress fanfiction has some merit?

I hadn't realized that sort of thing existed. It's looking like a whisky day today.

It better not be a direct decendant, it's not canon that Obi Wan had any kids, and it'd be totally out of his character because he was so damn "Old Order" Jedi he shat Yodas. (And yes, you're now picturing Old Ben Kenobi with Yodas flying out of his ass giving that little laugh of his). No way would he have screwed a female on the side.

Aside from it being out of character to have a kid, this reeks of throwing in a character for name recognition to get asses in seats. Abrams did all that shit in Star Trek... ("Tribbles and Green girls, they'll remember those, let's put em in!")

Disney also has a nasty habit of targeting demographics for Maximum Moichanising, and they're milking their existing princess stable for all they're worth, eager to add more.

Disney and Abrams are a danger to the franchise as much as Lucas, but in a different way, all the characters could be "supercharged and screaming" like in Star Trek. Hopefully, all the people they're bringing in from the original movies can tell them "No" when they need to hear it as they did during IV to VI.

CardinalPiggles:
She certainly looks like a strong confident person in that picture of her, rather than cutesy damsel in distress, so that's something to look forward to.

My ideal situation would be to see her kick Solo in the balls for calling her toots or something.

That was Leia in the originals, but the sarcastic smart-ass tough girl character is such an overused trope it's really painful to see if they aren't written correctly, but Abrams isn't subtle about character traits at all.

Well it's JJ Abrams so breaking canon is kind of what he does. Well okay only for Star Trek so far but why not screw up Star Wars too? A lot of people will still see it. I'll still see it. I probably won't see it until it shows up on Netflix, but i'll still watch it at some point.

Now what i'd pay to see is a prequel for Knights of the Old Republic where they track down Revan. Written by the guys who wrote Knights of the Old Republic. That would get many of my dollars.

Oh good, "According to sources" none of which are named "she is in line to grab an undisclosed role" okay so we have no idea who she's going to play even if the sources are correct. "one of the roles yet to be filled is a descendant of Obi wan" So a completely unrelated role that we have no way of knowing if she is going to play.

Okay so to make things clear, Unknown sources are saying that this girl is going to play an unknown role. But there is a role for Obi Wan's descendent and that gets fans angry so lets connect all these unsubstantial threads together so we can get clicks without any real evidence, cause that's how movie news works.

The cool thing about the idea, is that it could retcon the prequel trilogy, the old trilogy doesn't mention anything that rules out a young Obi-Wan romancing some girl before settling down on Tatooine. And the original trilogy doesn't say much about the Jedi rules, so why not? If you watch 4-6 it will make sense, though it would probably be best to use at as a revelation instead of just saying: "Hi, i'm Obi Wans grand daughter, how are you?"...

MrBaskerville:
The cool thing about the idea, is that it could retcon the prequel trilogy, the old trilogy doesn't mention anything that rules out a young Obi-Wan romancing some girl before settling down on Tatooine. And the original trilogy doesn't say much about the Jedi rules, so why not? If you watch 4-6 it will make sense, though it would probably be best to use at as a revelation instead of just saying: "Hi, i'm Obi Wans grand daughter, how are you?"...

^Also this, my god people actually have brains! shocking!

There is VERY long period were Obi Wan is on his own on Tattooine. With the Jedi all gone, why can't he potentially have a child during that time? and how about that particular child has a child to give us this character?

Retconning the prequels is a bit far fetched, but this is Disney, you never know.

I really hope it's actually Ben Skywalker's descendant (Luke's son in the expanded universe), and not Ben Kenobi because someone mixed up their last names, it's weird that it's Ben and not Obi Wan Kenobi.

canadamus_prime:

NLS:
Ben Kenobi's descendant? Has this been confirmed?

That's pretty much pissing on his grave. After all that "living the way of the Jedi" and not allowing romantic feelings, how the f did ben end up with a kid?

That's pretty much the first thing I thought of when I read "Ben Kenobi's Descendant."

He did live in solitude for 20 plus years so there is no telling what he could have done in said time before becoming one with the force.

Barbas:
It's looking like a whisky day today.

Every day should be Whisky day!

To get back on topic ...

And not to get all philosophical, or anything, but bear in mind that the upshot of the whole shattering of the Jedi Order was the realization that perhaps they had been too isolated from society-that by training up children from a very young age and cloistering themselves in their temple, they inadvertently sowed the seeds of the Empire.

Why did the Force need balance (as in the prophecies) to begin with? Because the Jedi Order had become unbalanced. Their rules went beyond the requirements for following the Way of the Light Side, and ended up in a sort of benevolent feudalistic oligarchy.

This is parallel to what has happened within many religious orders in our world-Catholic priests not being allowed to marry has caused all sorts of emotional/psychological problems, the negative results of which we witness in various sex crimes and cover-ups.

There's also a parallel to the Biblical Pharisees, whom Jesus criticizes for being too legalistic-their concern with exacting measures clouding their judgment and causing them to lose sight of the bigger (more important) picture.

That being said, I think it's probably safe to say that once the Order from the prequels collapsed, the remaining Jedi may have re-thought their positions on some of their stricter and more pointless rules. Therefore Obi-Wan (and Yoda) may have felt that a romantic relationship or marriage was no longer off the table.

So why shouldn't Obi-Wan have a daughter or grand-daughter?

Siri and Obi-wan had a daughter, Obi-wan did not know about her. That daughter lay with Lando, they had a child. So she can be a descendant of both Obi-wan and Lando. It is possible if they want to make it happen.

Uh yeah, here's to hoping they're going to handle that in a way that doesn't suck balls, because the whole 'long lost relative of a popular character' thing just reeks of bad fan-fiction. Then again, considering how much fan-service they seem to be putting into it already, chances are at least episode VII is not going to be much more than that.

Oh well, I suppose fan-service Star Wars is better than no Star Wars.

Hawkeye21:
She is clearly descendant from Lando Calrissian, he is the only black guy in the galaxy far far away.

Actually there was another in the era of The Rebellion, but he died pretty quick after his appearance.

So um...please no. I have a hard time believing that Obi would one: turn his back on The Code after beating Anakin over the head so much about it and two: that if he did have a child, he doesn't strike me as the person who would leave her and never mention her.
And if we're going with that whole, "Oh, he slept with me and I got pregnant, but I never told him because I didn't want to hurt him," I'm going to be very upset.

On the real-life side, I hope she does get the part she's trying out for. I just hope it's not the part that we're being told it is.

Can't they just make her a random girl who joins the heroes and saves the day with them? This whole "everybody's connected through bloodlines or my father created you or whatever destiny bla bla bla" bullshit we're seeing in movies now is beginning to get on my last nerve. Movie Bob laid it all out in one of his recent Big Pictures (Destined for Disappointment).

The Star Wars Universe is supposed to feel huge and sweeping, yet we keep revisting the same planets and the same characters/bloodlines.

the7ofswords:
Every day should be Whisky day!

I can't but agree! :D

Anyhow, on topic:
The rule not to have children, lovers or a family, as a Jedi, seems like it was never enforced. It's more like a recommendation that the important people can't be bothered to follow - leading to bad things and more story. It seems all that talk about discipline and self control can not overcome the power of love - or good old booty.

I've not read the books, and I probably never will, (a quick glance at Wookiepedia, well over a year ago, having seen the movies and played some of the games is my base for all of this) but if I remember correctly Luke goes on to have children with a former sith assassin (sent to kill him - because the base of any healthy relationship is always attempted murder, just ask any crazy stalker out there).
Leia has children with Han Solo (a man ironically named by his parents for his assumed future masturbation habits) and that, in turn, one of those children (Luke or Leia's) goes all evil and names himself "Dark Lord of the Sith" and all that. Because why shut your trap and just poison the next family dinner, when you can kill them one by one in a war that also kills countless others?
Starting the whole "family fights each other and wars happen" that Star Wars is built around anew.

Then Chewbacca explodes along with a whole planet - because nothing ups the stakes like the death of a whole planet (again) - and that one character we knew had a name and all loved, because he's naked all the time and that's just how he rolls. He also has a crossbow that shoots laser. Either way, naked hairy dude who communicates through noises and wields a badass nonsensical weapon = fun character. Anyone who tells you otherwise is boring, a dirty liar, your mom or your therapist. Hm, I may have gone of track there?

My point being - Star Wars is silly. The fun kind of silly that takes itself serious, but silly non the less. And it will most likely continue to break whatever "rules" there are, if the people making the movies think it would result in a fun movie. Expecting more is like expecting that the next time you drop a glass it'll fall upwards. Theoretically possible, but highly unlikely.

Nimzabaat:
Now what i'd pay to see is a prequel for Knights of the Old Republic where they track down Revan. Written by the guys who wrote Knights of the Old Republic. That would get many of my dollars.

That's one of the missions in SW:TOR, but people like to pretend that didn't happen. Either way, here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_993gc1QHWc
Did I just save many of your dollars with my Google-skills? If I did I think I'll celebrate, by not wearing pants for a while.

Unless you meant tracking him down while he was the bad guy... and I just wasted my Google-skills? Yeah, KOTOR, not TOR. My bad. I'm sad now. I Googled (is that even a word?) in vain :(

Remember that bit when Obiwan Kenobi got laid?

YEAhhh Yeah.... me too

And if she is going to be a descendant why not Lando's? Where is Lando in all this anyway? Is he even coming back? Man, no love for Lando. :(

Hawkeye21:
She is clearly descendant from Lando Calrissian, he is the only black guy in the galaxy far far away.

The only black guy that didn't get thrown out of a window before getting kids anyway.

Could Lando be Mace Windu's long lost son?

Nowhere Man:
Can't they just make her a random girl who joins the heroes and saves the day with them? This whole "everybody's connected through bloodlines or my father created you or whatever destiny bla bla bla" bullshit we're seeing in movies now is beginning to get on my last nerve. Movie Bob laid it all out in one of his recent Big Pictures (Destined for Disappointment).

The Star Wars Universe is supposed to feel huge and sweeping, yet we keep revisting the same planets and the same characters/bloodlines.

That's kind of a lore thing, the Force runs strongly in some bloodlines, which means those families end up being influential, as the Force controls all things. With the extermination of almost all jedi and force sensitives between Episodes 3 & 4, the only lines that can still be tapped are the Skywalker, Kenobi and possibly Yoda (though I think he is the last of his species).

 Pages 1 2 NEXT

Reply to Thread

Log in or Register to Comment
Have an account? Login below:
With Facebook:Login With Facebook
or
Username:  
Password:  
  
Not registered? To sign up for an account with The Escapist:
Register With Facebook
Register With Facebook
or
Register for a free account here