Sony Exec Admits He was Banned From MiiVerse for Promoting PlayStation

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Sony Exec Admits He was Banned From MiiVerse for Promoting PlayStation

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In a chat with PS4 lead architect Mark Cerny, Sony Worldwide Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida has revealed that he's been banned from Nintendo's MiiVerse twice, and admits working with Ken Kutaragi was "incredibly difficult."

Sony Worldwide Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida is known to be a gamer of all platforms and not just those made by Sony's PlayStation division. This fact is not only evident if you follow Yoshida on Twitter, but the Sony exec even owns two units of every console so he can play Japanese and US games. Speaking to PlayStation 4 lead architect Mark Cerny over the weekend where he detailed his career in the gaming industry, Yoshida admits he has already been banned from Nintendo's MiiVerse social network twice.

The first time was because I had my Twitter account in my profile and that's against the rules...The second time is because I wrote, 'I love PS.' You're not supposed to promote a commercial product in MiiVerse, so they correctly interpreted 'PS' as 'PlayStation.'

In the same chat, Yoshida also talked about his time working with the "Father of PlayStation," Ken Kutaragi. "Working with Kutaragi was incredibly difficult," claims Yoshida, since Kutaragi could do an immediate 180 in terms of what he wanted. "Every week his direction and instructions could change," Yoshida states.

However, even if Kutaragi was hard to work with, the former PlayStation head noticed Yoshida's work and complimented him twice -- which was an odd occurrence since Kutaragi was known to "struggle" in giving compliments to co-workers. "I was complimented by Ken twice!" says Yoshida and adds, "When I say this to my colleagues, they say 'twice? That's a lot!" This is a stark contrast to Yoshida who gives compliments more freely and mentions, "For me, giving a complement is free, it's like a smile from McDonald's...But still, we all love Ken."

If you want to get in touch with Yoshida directly, try reaching him over on Twitter where he responds to PlayStation fans even during his personal time and mostly gives honest answers instead of canned ones provided by Sony's PR department.

Do any of you remember Kutaragi? While highly improbable, how would you feel if the former father of the PlayStation brand came back?

Source: Engadget

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Hah.

In defence of the Miiverse it is very well moderated, they tend to deal with bullshit quickly and effectively, and it does make it a nicer place to be when all the trolls are nuked from orbit.

That's kinda funny.

Though it might've been even better if he'd been banned twice for calling people "pussy fags" on the NSMBU forums or something.

For those who will inevitably rush to bash Nintendo for this, or claim "First Amendment!!1!!!11" on it:

This is the digital equivalent of standing in the lobby of your competitor's company and boasting aloud about your love for your own brand, how it's better than your competitor's, and trying to convince people to go to your store instead. It is not "unfair" for the competitor to ask you to leave or to have you escorted off the premises as a trespasser.

CriticKitten:
For those who will inevitably rush to bash Nintendo for this, or claim "First Amendment!!1!!!11" on it:

This is the digital equivalent of standing in the lobby of your competitor's company and boasting aloud about your love for your own brand, how it's better than your competitor's, and trying to convince people to go to your store instead. It is not "unfair" for the competitor to ask you to leave or to have you escorted off the premises as a trespasser.

Aren't we overly defensive today :D ?

On a more on topic note; good to see that they have some decent moderation over on wii-verse.

CriticKitten:
For those who will inevitably rush to bash Nintendo for this, or claim "First Amendment!!1!!!11" on it:

This is the digital equivalent of standing in the lobby of your competitor's company and boasting aloud about your love for your own brand, how it's better than your competitor's, and trying to convince people to go to your store instead. It is not "unfair" for the competitor to ask you to leave or to have you escorted off the premises as a trespasser.

I was never going to bash nintendo, I was just giggling about the whole situation.

I just find it comical, Yoshida truly is a great boss and leader, he shows himself human almost every other day, He can poke fun at himself and his brand as well as others, and he has a real passion for gaming. What more could you ask for in the position he is in?

Heheh, that's pretty cute. I like to imagine all of the execs occasionally annoy each other over their respective consoles, it'd be a lot funnier then the normal console war bickering we see all the time.

Phrozenflame500:
Heheh, that's pretty cute. I like to imagine all of the execs occasionally annoy each other over their respective consoles, it'd be a lot funnier then the normal console war bickering we see all the time.

Nah, I'm pretty sure they meet every week for drinks, along with the top execs of the major publishers, and tell each other stories of how they're going to screw their customers next. Kind of like the MOD Squad in the movie Thank You For Smoking.

A little bit petty, but, well, I guess it is the Game's Industry.

CriticKitten:
For those who will inevitably rush to bash Nintendo for this, or claim "First Amendment!!1!!!11" on it:

This is the digital equivalent of standing in the lobby of your competitor's company and boasting aloud about your love for your own brand, how it's better than your competitor's, and trying to convince people to go to your store instead. It is not "unfair" for the competitor to ask you to leave or to have you escorted off the premises as a trespasser.

What if you're just a fan of both? I think they were monitoring his account closely because they knew who he is. If they would ban anyone for saying they love another product then that's bullshit.

Nice to see the human heart of the big coprs.

Alex Co:
Do any of you remember Kutaragi? While highly improbable, how would you feel if the former father of the PlayStation brand came back?

As far as hardware design goes, Kutaragi was the worst. I'm glad he's out of the picture there.

Lol. I like how his promotion was simply "I love PS" and posting his Twitter. A little extreme to ban him but it's Nintendo's service after all

CriticKitten:
For those who will inevitably rush to bash Nintendo for this, or claim "First Amendment!!1!!!11" on it:

This is the digital equivalent of standing in the lobby of your competitor's company and boasting aloud about your love for your own brand, how it's better than your competitor's, and trying to convince people to go to your store instead. It is not "unfair" for the competitor to ask you to leave or to have you escorted off the premises as a trespasser.

Well no it isn't, it's more like wearing a shirt promoting another company while reading in the lobby. You're not intruding on anyone else, they have to observe you to see your company promotion, and it isn't an attempt at conversion. Still completely understand why they would ban for that though. Also, it's not a company's job to uphold freedom of speech in their own services.

One slight issue with the story, the post is actually still there.

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAABAADOUKlPwCZ9Cw

Likely it was reported (and thus taken down) until it could be moderated, but they left it up.

Banned twice implies temp bans as well, so might gave been a ban due to a lot or reports or something, if it was a actual proper ban wouldn't make sense that the post that caused it would still be live!

MeChaNiZ3D:
Also, it's not a company's job to uphold freedom of speech in their own services.

This is true, freedom of speech is not something you have in a private business/location. Hell you don't have full freedom of speech on this forum, there are limitations on what you can say (no hate speech etc) and this is accepted

JediMB:

Alex Co:
Do any of you remember Kutaragi? While highly improbable, how would you feel if the former father of the PlayStation brand came back?

As far as hardware design goes, Kutaragi was the worst. I'm glad he's out of the picture there.

He did get a little crazy at the end, no? But his footprint in video games can't be dismissed. He did make the PS1 and PS2 a success. And if you think how he usurped Nintendo from its throne, well, that's no small feat. :)

Lightknight:
What if you're just a fan of both? I think they were monitoring his account closely because they knew who he is. If they would ban anyone for saying they love another product then that's bullshit.

Well, it kind of makes sense that to have in their conduct code not to promote commercial products. Only Nintendo products would make sense to promote because you're using one, so talking about how much you love Mario would only come natural while you were playing the game. Talking about how you love PlayStation just out of nowhere is uncalled for, and so it's clearly meant for promotional reasons, and not just expressing love for it. It's like going in an apple store and just shouting "I love Android!" You're not doing it because you like Android, you're doing it either to promote it, or start some shit. Either way, it's just not cool to do.

Alex Co:
He did get a little crazy at the end, no?

Well, they didn't call him "Crazy Ken" for nothing.

OT: I find this kind of endearing in a way. I don't know, just the thought of an executive sitting there with a control in his hands typing 'I love PS.' Just puts a smile on my face.

CriticKitten:
For those who will inevitably rush to bash Nintendo for this, or claim "First Amendment!!1!!!11" on it:

This is the digital equivalent of standing in the lobby of your competitor's company and boasting aloud about your love for your own brand, how it's better than your competitor's, and trying to convince people to go to your store instead. It is not "unfair" for the competitor to ask you to leave or to have you escorted off the premises as a trespasser.

Err, you do realize you are on The Escapist?

You know, that forum that's pretty heavily regulated as well?

Shuhei Yoshida, in a letter to Nintendo following his advertising ban:

<3

^I really hope this is a thing that happened.

So wait, he got banned for just saying that he likes Playstation? There's a difference between keeping a community friendly and going all totalitarian on your users.

THOU SHALT NOT HAVE ANY CONSOLES BESIDES ME!

Milky1985:
One slight issue with the story, the post is actually still there.

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAABAADOUKlPwCZ9Cw

Likely it was reported (and thus taken down) until it could be moderated, but they left it up.

Banned twice implies temp bans as well, so might gave been a ban due to a lot or reports or something, if it was a actual proper ban wouldn't make sense that the post that caused it would still be live!

MeChaNiZ3D:
Also, it's not a company's job to uphold freedom of speech in their own services.

This is true, freedom of speech is not something you have in a private business/location. Hell you don't have full freedom of speech on this forum, there are limitations on what you can say (no hate speech etc) and this is accepted

Hahahah, "Full Freedom of Speech?" not even close, but that's a totally different topic.

OT: I too kind of like this story, it shows he's a true gamer and has a passion for what he does, unlike certain heads of other companies.

CriticKitten:
For those who will inevitably rush to bash Nintendo for this, or claim "First Amendment!!1!!!11" on it:

This is the digital equivalent of standing in the lobby of your competitor's company and boasting aloud about your love for your own brand, how it's better than your competitor's, and trying to convince people to go to your store instead. It is not "unfair" for the competitor to ask you to leave or to have you escorted off the premises as a trespasser.

While I'm not rushing at that, I do have to say there's a very fat, solid line between promoting your brand and simply stating you like (or even love) your (or anyone else's) brand. Again though, not rushing to attack Nintendo, just saying... don't think that deserved moderation at all, imagine what it'd be like if every gamer got banned from a product for mentioning their affection for another product. Imagine playing WoW and being banned for saying you love Rift in the general chat. Or playing Battlefield/CoD and saying you like/love/prefer the other (which I've seen in BF4 more times than I can recount). And so on.

Why is he honestly surprised.

I mean, it's the clearest definition of trolling according to Nintendo. And more often than not stirs up quite the storm on other platforms.

It would be the equivalent of me going on the PS network and promoting the Wii U to a bunch of console owners who clearly don't have a Wii U.

Most people will be quick to jump on the hate train and start a flamewar right then and there for promoting what they deem a shit console.

I bet that's what happened on Miiverse as well.

At least it's moderation for a general rule, and not prolonged animosity.
I mean, Nintendo is effectively responsible for unintentionally creating their greatest rival in the Playstation.

Dragonbums:
Why is he honestly surprised.

Please don't mind me asking, but, where does it state that he is surprised?

Milky1985:
One slight issue with the story, the post is actually still there.

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAABAADOUKlPwCZ9Cw

Likely it was reported (and thus taken down) until it could be moderated, but they left it up.

Banned twice implies temp bans as well, so might gave been a ban due to a lot or reports or something, if it was a actual proper ban wouldn't make sense that the post that caused it would still be live!

MeChaNiZ3D:
Also, it's not a company's job to uphold freedom of speech in their own services.

This is true, freedom of speech is not something you have in a private business/location. Hell you don't have full freedom of speech on this forum, there are limitations on what you can say (no hate speech etc) and this is accepted

The oldest comments on the post are from 12/2012 also. This is a pretty old event that he's referring to. It's likely the post is still there because the ban was temporary or overturned. The same way someone banned from these forums has their post hidden, but people can still view it. Just a guess, as I don't have a WiiU or would likely even use the MiiVerse if I did.

bluegate:

Dragonbums:
Why is he honestly surprised.

Please don't mind me asking, but, where does it state that he is surprised?

Ah, I was about to edit that, I misread that tidbit.

bluegate:
Aren't we overly defensive today :D ?

Ed130 The Vanguard:
Err, you do realize you are on The Escapist?

More like pre-empting the inevitable posts. This is The Escapist, after all, where the word "Nintendo" in an article triggers an instant Pavlovian response of "oh, that game company for babies? HARDY HAR HAR". Thanks, Yahtzee/Obama.

Lightknight:
What if you're just a fan of both? I think they were monitoring his account closely because they knew who he is. If they would ban anyone for saying they love another product then that's bullshit.

MeChaNiZ3D:
Well no it isn't, it's more like wearing a shirt promoting another company while reading in the lobby. You're not intruding on anyone else, they have to observe you to see your company promotion, and it isn't an attempt at conversion.

Vrach:
While I'm not rushing at that, I do have to say there's a very fat, solid line between promoting your brand and simply stating you like (or even love) your (or anyone else's) brand.

I think that the far more likely situation is that he did an awful lot more than just proclaim "I love PS" a single time. It's not that easy to get a Wiiverse ban, otherwise I'd agree that it's semi-petty.

But we're likely never to hear Nintendo admit to the details surrounding it, because they tend not to leak details about the circumstances of individual service bans. And Yoshida probably isn't going to be telling us about his misadventures, either. :p

CriticKitten:

bluegate:
Aren't we overly defensive today :D ?

Ed130 The Vanguard:
Err, you do realize you are on The Escapist?

More like pre-empting the inevitable posts. This is The Escapist, after all, where the word "Nintendo" in an article triggers an instant Pavlovian response of "oh, that game company for babies? HARDY HAR HAR". Thanks, Yahtzee/Obama.

Lightknight:
What if you're just a fan of both? I think they were monitoring his account closely because they knew who he is. If they would ban anyone for saying they love another product then that's bullshit.

MeChaNiZ3D:
Well no it isn't, it's more like wearing a shirt promoting another company while reading in the lobby. You're not intruding on anyone else, they have to observe you to see your company promotion, and it isn't an attempt at conversion.

Vrach:
While I'm not rushing at that, I do have to say there's a very fat, solid line between promoting your brand and simply stating you like (or even love) your (or anyone else's) brand.

I think that the far more likely situation is that he did an awful lot more than just proclaim "I love PS" a single time. It's not that easy to get a Wiiverse ban, otherwise I'd agree that it's semi-petty.

But we're likely never to hear Nintendo admit to the details surrounding it, because they tend not to leak details about the circumstances of individual service bans. And Yoshida probably isn't going to be telling us about his misadventures, either. :p

I'd agree but this is a Miiverse post, not a wiiverse. The mods on the wii u's posting are super ultra strict. They are aaaaalways watching. Its really very impressive, I have to work to find the trolls doing funny things.

I'm personally glad that we've got a Sony Exec who actually likes gaming enough to go onto Miiverse and play around and play different games. Better than just another business suit who walks in from his job in Apple or British Airways or whatever and knows nothing about gaming.

I love Yoshida.

They guy's pretty damn funny when he wants to be, and he's built a pretty good relationship with fans. The very fact that he's so open kind of makes him stand out to other executives.

Casual Shinji:
Well, they didn't call him "Crazy Ken" for nothing.

Now I can't see his face without picturing him as a used car salesman.

The White Hunter:
Hah.

In defence of the Miiverse it is very well moderated, they tend to deal with bullshit quickly and effectively, and it does make it a nicer place to be when all the trolls are nuked from orbit.

Now if only Microsoft could pick up the pace on their "griefer hell" idea they announced a while back. Unless they've already started it and its just been that damn long since I last played a console of any sort.....college sucks sometimes.

Chaosritter:
So wait, he got banned for just saying that he likes Playstation? There's a difference between keeping a community friendly and going all totalitarian on your users.

THOU SHALT NOT HAVE ANY CONSOLES BESIDES ME!

Well MiiVerse has the rule of don't advertise a product and the PS, competition or not, is a product. It's similar to getting slapped on the wrist on the escapist for giving a two word post. Those two words could be 'Escapist Rulz' or 'NeoGAF SUX' for all they care it's still only two words.

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