Lucasfilm Makes It Official: Star Wars: Expanded Universe Is Dead

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Lucasfilm Makes It Official: Star Wars: Expanded Universe Is Dead

Episode VII will begin a new canon, and the post-Jedi EU isn't part of it

This was a foregone conclusion the moment Disney/Lucasfilm announced new Star Wars sequels, but one imagines some fans will still be angry anyway. Today, with a post to StarWars.com, the powers that be put the hammer down: Episode's VII and beyond will not conform to the Expanded Universe's version of what came next for Luke, Han, Leia, etc; and The EU is no more.

The Expanded Universe is the general term given to stories set in the Star Wars Universe outside of the films, beginning with spin-off novels in the late 70s and continuing up through role-playing games, comics and videogames for several decades. For a time they were widely considered to form an "official/unofficial" canon with the films, and George Lucas even had to officially make certain characters and periods off-limits in order to not muddy the waters during the making of the Prequels.

While novels, comics, animated series, TV shows, games etc will continue to be set before, during, after and parallel-to current and future Star Wars films; they will now do so in the context of an official unified canon maintained by an official Lucasfilm Story Group, which will also decide which characters and concepts from the former EU can be repurposed by future filmmakers and authors; while the original Expanded Universe books themselves will continue to be published under the new banner "Star Wars: Legends."

Source: StarWars.com

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I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if thousands of fanboys suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced. I fear something TOTALLY AWESOME has happened."

Nah, just kidding with ya. But in honesty, saw this coming, as I'm sure many people have. Now I'm interested in the new trilogy.

I really don't see why this is a big deal.

So what, the extra stuff no longer match to one official fictional history. It's no like the stories fade from existance, they still exist and are still great.

Hell most of the best DC comics are Elseworlds. All Star Superman, Red Son, Kingdom Come, etc

This is an outrage! I am organizing an immediate.... eh, who am I kidding, I gave up caring at Ep 1.

i can't help but hold out hope that, just like Coruscant, one EU element that will be 'repurposed' is Mara Jade.
Captcha: i want control <-trying to tell me something here?

Soooo... the YouTube video (which was published today) are a bunch of Lucasfilm employees gushing for six minutes about how they love and cherish the Expanded Universe which they have discarded.

Got it.

For the fans, cannon is what they want it to be. If anything Disney are retarded to not dip into all those EU characters and stories. Now if SW7 sucks arse originality wise then they will look worse off.

Wait, so they're no longer considering them canon but they're going to keep publishing new books anyways? I can't see that ending up being confusing to anybody.

Well glad I wasted a bunch of my time. Now I know how Star Trek fans feel about their franchise on being two movies.

It's hard to get upset over something that is little more than fanfiction being declared non-canon.

Wait, so no Kyle Katarn? He is the best thing about the post-Return of The Jedi stuff.

God-fucking-dammit.

Well, it's not like we didn't all see this coming, but still. Childhood RUINED.

It's not like the core Star Wars fanbase matters when your movie is so large that its name alone guarantees you a massive profit, but I still feel like this is gauche.

J.J. Abrams's movies won't be canon either, so who cares.

I don't give a fuck what they say, Kyle Katarn is canon.

Well, at least we don't have to worry about the Yuuzhan Vong showing up.

seen this coming rip Thrawn (hopefully they put him back into the canon and not screw him up) /vong

So basically, all of the EU is gone. I figured it'd happen eventually.

Of course, this opens up a number of giant gaping continuity holes that they'll now have to either fill or ignore (my bets are on "ignore"), and it means that all of the good products produced by the EU (like the Thrawn trilogy) will never be converted into a movie format, which is a damn shame. But I expected nothing less.

Falterfire:
Wait, so they're no longer considering them canon but they're going to keep publishing new books anyways? I can't see that ending up being confusing to anybody.

Of course. This is essentially the epitome of "having one's cake and eating it too".

They want to declare the EU non-canon so they can do whatever the hell they want in continuity. But at the same time, they want to keep the EU going, releasing book after book that will still be totally non-canon, purely for the purposes of milking their audience of their cash. Because they know that the fans will keep eating that shit up, canon or no.

'tis why I stopped buying the books years ago. I figured out pretty quickly (around the time of Ep 1) that they'd eventually find an excuse to declare the EU non-canon so they could keep milking the movie-going audience with one hand and their hardcore fans with the other. And I decided that I wasn't keen on being milked without them at least buying me dinner first.

Ronack:
J.J. Abrams's movies won't be canon either, so who cares.

Can we apply this logic to the prequels as well? It would be killing two birds with one stone.

I'll join in with numerous (though a minority) other down-to-earth fans: Called it. After all, three words: Death Star creation.

We lost a couple of gems but overall, considering a huge chunk of the EU is absolute shit imo, I honestly think it's for the best. Instead of having to follow the ungodly web that was the EU canon they can do something that (hopefully) is good.

And if it sucks then at least it's living up to the prequels legacy anyways.

Zontar:

Ronack:
J.J. Abrams's movies won't be canon either, so who cares.

Can we apply this logic to the prequels as well? It would be killing two birds with one stone.

Better yet: Just declare that every Star Wars movie, TV show, novel, comic book, and video game is a completely stand-alone story with no continuity with any other Star Wars storyline whatsoever.

Star Wars "canon" was basically destroyed the moment the words "midichlorians" were uttered.

I basically gave up caring after that.

I stopped caring back when they declared KOTOR 2 non-cannon.

One of the best (hell I'd say THE best) Star Wars stories and they handwave it away. What a damn waste.

R.I.P. Kyle Katarn & Grand Admiral Thrawn. You will be missed. (Also Wraith & Rogue Squadrons)

Honestly, does it being 'non-canon' even matter anyways? Unfortunate that they won't be making movies out of some of those better stories, but the stories don't need to be judged as 'canon' by some corporate execs to be enjoyable. And admittedly, there's way too much dross cluttering up the EU setting to really try to fit new, good stories into it seamlessly anyway.

I think I'm about as hard hit by this as anybody. I've read every single Star Wars novel since the Zahn trilogy came out in the early 90's. I'm pretty prepared for this and I've already promised to never utter to anybody the words "Well in the books..."

And while there are some characters and plot-lines I hoped would survive, I don't feel any ownership, so I can let it go. For me, a future without Han and Leia getting married and not having the twins will probably be the weirdest. They don't need to grow up and become the adults that they did...they can (and I hoped) they would change all that story, but they just need to exist for everything to seem normal in my mind.

I don't really feel like my time was wasted either. That storyline existed with Lucas...it died with the sale to Disney. There really wasn't much more story to tell anyways. If it's one thing movie trends has taught us is how to handle a reboot of a series...no real reason this would be much different. /shrug

This is meant to be some big loss? If you are going to make new Star Wars movies the absolute best thing to do is to ignore the expanded universe, and all the prior films and just make something new and unique. Of course, they aren't going to do this. They are going to cling to as much nostalgia as they can. Either way, no big loss. Who even wants to see these movies?

Yeah! I mean what good has Expanded Universe ever given us? Except the Thrawn Trilogy... and the X-Wing series... and Dark Forces... suddenly I feel sad.

MinionJoe:
Soooo... the YouTube video (which was published today) are a bunch of Lucasfilm employees gushing for six minutes about how they love and cherish the Expanded Universe which they have discarded.

Got it.

My thoughts exactly.

I'm not really surprised, but still a bit disappointed and annoyed. At least they just ripped of the band-aid and cut the whole thing immediately, rather than cutting bits and chunks as the new films come in conflict with the EU.
And of course, now they can sell a lot of basically the same stories, only slightly updated to comply to the new canon. Yay...

But at least this shouldn't affect the Old Republic Era too much. And considering how much the MMO made, they probably won't mess too much with it.

So Boba Fett is dead? Well FUCK YOU GUY!

Fuck you Geroge Lucas Films, fuck you!

VoidOfOne:
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if thousands of fanboys suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced. I fear something TOTALLY AWESOME has happened."

Nah, just kidding with ya. But in honesty, saw this coming, as I'm sure many people have. Now I'm interested in the new trilogy.

More to the point, Lucas was doing this for years. At least now, in the Disney Era, we know what we're in for.

Buccura:
Well, at least we don't have to worry about the Yuuzhan Vong showing up.

That's what they WANT you to think!

Clive Howlitzer:
This is meant to be some big loss?

It is to the thousands of fans who have inexplicably dedicated a huge chunk of their lives to it. And they seem to hold themselves as the only people the movies should be made for. The diehards.

You'd think with the success of the marvel comics, they'd have learned not to trample on the most devoted fans. :P. I'd rather have anything made from 1999 to the present listed as non cannon. Insted, yes to prequels, no to thrawn... great.

If galen marek survives this too I'm out.

CriticKitten:
So basically, all of the EU is gone. I figured it'd happen eventually.

Of course, this opens up a number of giant gaping continuity holes that they'll now have to either fill or ignore (my bets are on "ignore"), and it means that all of the good products produced by the EU (like the Thrawn trilogy) will never be converted into a movie format, which is a damn shame. But I expected nothing less.

Yeah, but that is weird. I mean, Admiral Thrawn even appeared in TIE Fighter! They can't just cut him out like he never happened. If you put something in TIE Fighter it stays in Star Wars, dammit!

I don't care if they aren't "official" cannon, Dark Forces 1 and 2 hold soft spots in my heart.

Dark Forces 1 was the most innovative, polished, and immersive FPS of the sprite era. And Dark Forces 2 was a technological achievement for its time showing the world just how much potential hardware accelerated 3d graphics had. It didn't hurt that the games were fundamentally interesting and had good stories in themselves. Even the goofy full motion video was hilariously campy to watch.

Seriously check it out:

MinionJoe:

Better yet: Just declare that every Star Wars movie, TV show, novel, comic book, and video game is a completely stand-alone story with no continuity with any other Star Wars storyline whatsoever.

Better still: every Star Wars movie, TV show, novel, comic book and video game is now LEGOS! They each have continuity with whichever other bits a given individual wants them to have continuity with. Every Star Wars fan now builds their own continuity!

OT: I'm not a Star Wars fan at all. I haven't seen all the movies and I don't know the first thing about the expanded universe besides KOTR 1+2, which I enjoyed as RPGs that just-so-happened to be Star Wars.

So this doesn't mean much to me. Nevertheless, I know the expanded universe was big business, and while its reputation was "a bloated monstrosity that runs the gamut from `worthy` to `awful fanfiction`", I render no judgement of my own. I only sympathise with anyone who feels like their favourite franchise was just eviscerated.

lets hope they lift a few good ideas from the EU; it was at times not even consistent from book to book (*cough* calista) so having some kind of committee that at least ensures that the continuity between the individual works is preserved doesn't seem to be the worst of all possible ideas.
it is highly likely that some of the favorite characters of an individual fan (in my case Thrawn, Daala, Pelaeon) may cease to exist in the new continuity, but on the other hand this doesn't delete the existing works, as was mentioned in the article, thoose will still be aviable.
i mean, jar jar bings is canon, from my point of view we now have 2 parallel universes, the jar-jar-verse and the EU :D

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