Warner Bros. Confirms Justice League Movie

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Warner Bros. Confirms Justice League Movie

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Zack Snyder will direct the epic team-up of DC Comics superheroes

The worst kept secret in the blockbuster biz is a secret no more.

From the moment Warner Bros. Pictures announced last year at SDCC that they intended to follow Man of Steel with a Batman/Superman team-up movie (still referred to by the unofficial title Batman Vs. Superman) featuring a new incarnation of Batman unrelated to the recently-completed Dark Knight Trilogy; fans have treated the idea that a Justice League film (and a DC Cinematic Universe to rival Disney/Marvel's) would be next as a foregone conclusion. That speculation only increased when Gal Gadot was cast as Wonder Woman, and recently reached fever-pitch when Ray Fisher picked up the role of Cyborg.

Now they've made it official. Speaking to The Wall Street Journal, WB's head of worldwide production Greg Silverman confirmed that the film is planned as the follow-up to the first Man of Steel sequel. Ben Affleck (as Batman,) Henry Cavill (as Superman,) Gadot and Fisher are all expected to continue their respective roles; with other heroes presumably yet to be announced. No storyline, script or screenwriter has been announced. Zack Snyder is expected to return as director.

First appearing in 1960 (as The Justice League of America,) The League was DC Comics' Silver Age successor to the popular Golden Age team The Justice Society. The foundational "supergroup" of DC Universe, The League has continued to exist for decades of comics publication in multiple incarnations with a rotating roster of heroes that usually (but not always) includes the "trinity" of Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman. Warner Bros. has other projects involving League-affiliated DC characters either running or in-production, including Arrow and the upcoming Flash on TV plus the long-gestating Shazam movie, but thus far have been reluctant to unify these franchises.

No release date has been set for Justice League. Batman Vs. Superman is currently set for a May 2016 bow.

Source: The Wall Street Journal

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I have a distinct feeling that this will be bad on the level of Green Lantern, and that's a shame.

I wonder if anyone at Warner Bros. thought this would be some kind of massive, earth shattering reveal that would send fanboys and girls wild with anticipation. That said and as 'meh' as I feel about a live-action Justice League movie I still want to see what they are going to do to try and topple the Avengers. I also wonder whether this means they are going to branch out in to the less well known characters or at least give some a shot that haven't seen the big screen yet. Anything that isn't Batman or Superman and doesn't suck would be a nice breath of fresh air.

I'll be honest; I actually wanted Ben Affleck to direct.

Ah, so that writer from last week that said Warner Bros. isn't making a DC cinematic universe was either in the dark or blowing hot air. The Supes sequel will have Batman and Wonder Woman. Then there's this Justice League movie. And they're got the same actors signed up for both films (with Henry Cavill it's 3). DC is just moving faster to play catch up to Marvel. There will probably be more individual character movies afterwards, just like Thor 2, Iron Man 3, Capt. America 2, etc. Even if some facts weren't consistent with the Justice League movie and the previous two Supermans, it would be minor retcons(or the writer just plain being lazy and not watching the other films). DC knows what worked for Marvel's superhero films, and the only thing that wouldn't make it work for DC is craptastic decision making in the near future.

Could they have picked a worse director to handle it? Oh well, everyone buckle up and grab your buckets of popcorn, this train wreck is going to be magnificent.

This feels as rushed and cynical as Zack Snyder seemed calculating and hypocrite in the Man Of Steel interviews. I wish I could gather a bit of hope for this project.

On the other hand, the DC characters are so simple and one-note that you really don't need stand-alone pictures to set them up. This whole ordeal could be saved with a good script. And it's not like there's a shortage of comicbook writers out there, some really talented, witty writers who love comics. A good screenplay adaptation and this could be a good movie.

The thing is, I have a feeling they're aiming more for a box-office success than a cinematographic success. So they're probably going with established box office people, like David Goyer, who has no idea how to write superheroes or heroism, but loves writing about conflicted emo-murderers.

I hope we get a great movie, one that makes sense and makes you cheer for hope and heroism. I would love to see that movie. But I'm guessing we'll be getting a gray, 9-11 inspired tale of death and despair with excessive, numbing violence and a convoluted mess of a story.

It's funny, on the DC subreddit everyone is blowing their load all over the screen. "I JUST CAN'T WAIT! IT'S GONNA BE SO GOOD!"
Meanwhile, on the rest of the internet, no one cares. It's sad, really. DC's characters are so good and DC has no idea what to do with them.

I have to be honest... I don't want to watch Zach Snyder butcher anymore comic movies. Least of all a Justice League movie. Marvel has painstakingly worked to develop their cinematic universe with movies ranging from good to excellent. DC/WB has managed to screw up most of their movies at this point. Marvel has managed to capture the feeling of the comics in their cinematic universe, but DC/WB is constantly changing characters to make up for bad scripting in most of their movies. They haven't done many movies that were like the comic, and then they have horrendous scripts (I'm looking at you GL, that movies sucked because you can't get competent writers and directors).

I guess I'm not filled with confidence for them to handle their characters outside of animated films. DC has Marvel beat in that arena, hands down.

Judging by the accompanying image, how will they tell 8 origin stories in one 2 hour movie? Since WB decided there will be no crossovers or continuity?

Meanwhile, Marvel will have had three Avengers movies out by the time JLA finally materialises... that ain't going to take the wind out of DC's sails, or anything, will it?

The World Famous:
It's funny, on the DC subreddit everyone is blowing their load all over the screen. "I JUST CAN'T WAIT! IT'S GONNA BE SO GOOD!"
Meanwhile, on the rest of the internet, no one cares. It's sad, really. DC's characters are so good and DC has no idea what to do with them.

I know, we should all be ecstatic about this. Yet you get the feeling they're more worried about chasing Marvel Films, than about offering the best movie they can give us.

I love the Marvel movies, but I'd love to see good DC movies too. In the end it just means more great superhero movies! I watched the Dark Knight trilogy in the theaters. I even saw Man Of Steel, I hated it, but I gave Snyder a chance on account of Watchmen, one of my favorites. I also loved Hellboy (Dark Horse). I don't care who owns or profits with this movies. I just want a good movie experience.

What I find more baffling is that DC seems to handle their animation stuff really well. But when it comes to live action movies, they just don't seem to have that much control over the process. And it ends up being a mess.

I can't wait to see...the cancellation announcement, after BVS comes out and they realize that talking about how much money they're going to make doesn't actually cause that to happen.

That's odd, I thought they already confirmed the Justice League movie. I mean they even announced Cyborg was going to be in it.

Oh wait, that was Batman vs Superman. Which already has more than half of the team in it.

Fuck Warner Bros.

And while WB and DC flounder trying to stir up more interest in Batman vs Superman, and now Justice League; the Marvel cinematic universe's second phase will be complete, and they'll be well into Phase 3. Avengers 3 will probably be out by the time Justice League comes out.

While I imagine it's perfectly possible for the films to turn out just fine, you'll have to forgive me if I'm a tad skeptical. WB has to be seeing the same thing I've just outlined. Somehow I don't see them taking their time to develop a well crafted cinematic experience when they will be far more concerned about trying to outdo Marvel.

Visually, Snyder's films are amazing. They just don't seem to come together very well in the execution of story. If the Justice League movie is story-heavy, I'm not sure how it will turn out. But, I remain optimistic to see how well Batman vs Superman fares. Hopefully, it exceeds all expectations and furthers the momentum of the Justice League movie.

I wish I was hitting the roof with excitement, but I'm not. I have not been impressed with and DC movies that are live actions in many years. Yes, that includes the Dark Knight Trilogy. They take everything way too seriously in their movies and suck all the fun out of them. Marvel, meanwhile, seems to remember that these are supposed to be comic book-based movies and are able to have fun with them and still have a good story.

I fear that shadow is going to be beating this movie the entire way: Marvel does it better. That is going to make this movie even harder to get behind and like, because it's going to be compared to something that is already so near perfection for so many people, that it can't possibly measure up.

ShakerSilver:
That's odd, I thought they already confirmed the Justice League movie. I mean they even announced Cyborg was going to be in it.

Oh wait, that was Batman vs Superman. Which already has more than half of the team in it.

Fuck Warner Bros.

More than half the team? That depends who is on the team, right? I mean, Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Cyborg, Flash, Green Lantern, Shazam, Hawkman, Hawkgirl, Aquaman, Martian Manhunter... plus, they'll probably have Ray Palmer, Amanda Waller... and that's barely scratching the surface.

And also today, scientists discover that water is wet.

If this, makes it as news I am really happy I am not caring about these movies. Never bothered with Man of Steel, I enjoyed the Dark Knight Trilogy, but aside from comic books there has been no evidence that such a large team could survive a full length movie. The Avengers works because all the major characters have been introduced through other movies, and they mesh well.

With this... experiment, you have Superman from the Man of Steel, Batman from an unknown storyline, Wonder Woman whose origin is unknown given the variations of it, Cyborg has been announced and again who knows his origin story or why we should care.

This will be a Michael Bay 'quality' movie, lots of big fights and explosion but very little storyline.

Andy of Comix Inc:
More than half the team? That depends who is on the team, right? I mean, Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Cyborg, Flash, Green Lantern, Shazam, Hawkman, Hawkgirl, Aquaman, Martian Manhunter... plus, they'll probably have Ray Palmer, Amanda Waller... and that's barely scratching the surface.

The core team. So far we have Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, and Cyborg. Just add Green Lantern and Flash and you've got a Justice League movie. I don't think we'll ever see anything out JLI or the extended league; hell they can barely put Superman on the big screen.

As much as I should be hyped about this, the only thing I can think about is how by the time it comes out, Marvel will have 3 Avengers, at least 13 other superhero movies (assuming the rumors that they may ramp up production to 3-4 per year are false), 2 seasons of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (assuming it doesn't get more), A season of Agent Carter (assuming that doesn't get past 1), 4 Netflix series of 13 episodes each and an 8 episode miniseries, plus whatever else Marvel/Disney might come up with by 2018 (oh god I can just the movie being pushed back to 2019 or 2020 with ease).

Simple thing is, as much as I love Marvel, DC making an announcement about their own movie shouldn't make me more hyped for their COMPETITION.

Andy of Comix Inc:

ShakerSilver:
That's odd, I thought they already confirmed the Justice League movie. I mean they even announced Cyborg was going to be in it.

Oh wait, that was Batman vs Superman. Which already has more than half of the team in it.

Fuck Warner Bros.

More than half the team? That depends who is on the team, right? I mean, Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Cyborg, Flash, Green Lantern, Shazam, Hawkman, Hawkgirl, Aquaman, Martian Manhunter... plus, they'll probably have Ray Palmer, Amanda Waller... and that's barely scratching the surface.

They're almost certainly referring to the current team line-up which DC has been pushing heavily as THE line-up for the Justice League since the New 52. It also helps that compared to most other potential line-ups, this has the most "Big Names" and their origins are easily summarised, pushed out and easy to understand and accept.

1. Superman - Audience Knows Who he is.
2. Batman - Audience Knows Who he is.
3. Wonder Woman - Should be addressed in her own movie, but maybe the public's knowledge can carry this.
4. Flash - He's being explained in the TV show "Arrow" (it's a sorry sight) and he's supposedly getting a spin-off. Whether or not that ties into the movie-verse it gets the audience up to speed on who he is, how he works, and what he does.
5. Cyborg - Black, teen athlete, caught in an accident, gets surgically merged with COMPUTER SCIENCE! Easily addressed in a handful of minutes.
6. Green Lantern - Had a movie, it was shit, but how everything works is explained.
7. Aquaman - Atlanteans exist, they have a bunch of fucking powers, and he's one of them. This is easily explained and not too ridiculous when compared to the concept of Kryptonians.

Baron_BJ:

Andy of Comix Inc:

ShakerSilver:
That's odd, I thought they already confirmed the Justice League movie. I mean they even announced Cyborg was going to be in it.

Oh wait, that was Batman vs Superman. Which already has more than half of the team in it.

Fuck Warner Bros.

More than half the team? That depends who is on the team, right? I mean, Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Cyborg, Flash, Green Lantern, Shazam, Hawkman, Hawkgirl, Aquaman, Martian Manhunter... plus, they'll probably have Ray Palmer, Amanda Waller... and that's barely scratching the surface.

They're almost certainly referring to the current team line-up which DC has been pushing heavily as THE line-up for the Justice League since the New 52. It also helps that compared to most other potential line-ups, this has the most "Big Names" and their origins are easily summarised, pushed out and easy to understand and accept.

1. Superman - Audience Knows Who he is.
2. Batman - Audience Knows Who he is.
3. Wonder Woman - Should be addressed in her own movie, but maybe the public's knowledge can carry this.
4. Flash - He's being explained in the TV show "Arrow" (it's a sorry sight) and he's supposedly getting a spin-off. Whether or not that ties into the movie-verse it gets the audience up to speed on who he is, how he works, and what he does.
5. Cyborg - Black, teen athlete, caught in an accident, gets surgically merged with COMPUTER SCIENCE! Easily addressed in a handful of minutes.
6. Green Lantern - Had a movie, it was shit, but how everything works is explained.
7. Aquaman - Atlanteans exist, they have a bunch of fucking powers, and he's one of them. This is easily explained and not too ridiculous when compared to the concept of Kryptonians.

I haven't read a lot of New 52 so I'm not so up to date with the "current" team. My point was really just that we don't know for sure who or what the Justice League even is at this point. His point could be doubly true - for all we know Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman and Cyborg are the only members of the Justice League, or maybe the Justice League doesn't have them in it at all. We don't know yet. So there's no quantifiable "half".

Also, I did watch the animated movie of Origin - Justice League: War, I recall? - and Aquaman wasn't even there. It was Shazam that was there. So, is Shazam in the Justice League or not? I know it was Aquaman instead of him in the comic. And I think Green Arrow was there for a bit? ...god. Comics are stupid. I gotta forget about this stuff. brb reading comics

Andy of Comix Inc:

Baron_BJ:

Andy of Comix Inc:

More than half the team? That depends who is on the team, right? I mean, Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Cyborg, Flash, Green Lantern, Shazam, Hawkman, Hawkgirl, Aquaman, Martian Manhunter... plus, they'll probably have Ray Palmer, Amanda Waller... and that's barely scratching the surface.

They're almost certainly referring to the current team line-up which DC has been pushing heavily as THE line-up for the Justice League since the New 52. It also helps that compared to most other potential line-ups, this has the most "Big Names" and their origins are easily summarised, pushed out and easy to understand and accept.

1. Superman - Audience Knows Who he is.
2. Batman - Audience Knows Who he is.
3. Wonder Woman - Should be addressed in her own movie, but maybe the public's knowledge can carry this.
4. Flash - He's being explained in the TV show "Arrow" (it's a sorry sight) and he's supposedly getting a spin-off. Whether or not that ties into the movie-verse it gets the audience up to speed on who he is, how he works, and what he does.
5. Cyborg - Black, teen athlete, caught in an accident, gets surgically merged with COMPUTER SCIENCE! Easily addressed in a handful of minutes.
6. Green Lantern - Had a movie, it was shit, but how everything works is explained.
7. Aquaman - Atlanteans exist, they have a bunch of fucking powers, and he's one of them. This is easily explained and not too ridiculous when compared to the concept of Kryptonians.

I haven't read a lot of New 52 so I'm not so up to date with the "current" team. My point was really just that we don't know for sure who or what the Justice League even is at this point. His point could be doubly true - for all we know Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman and Cyborg are the only members of the Justice League, or maybe the Justice League doesn't have them in it at all. We don't know yet. So there's no quantifiable "half".

Also, I did watch the animated movie of Origin - Justice League: War, I recall? - and Aquaman wasn't even there. It was Shazam that was there. So, is Shazam in the Justice League or not? I know it was Aquaman instead of him in the comic. And I think Green Arrow was there for a bit? ...god. Comics are stupid. I gotta forget about this stuff. brb reading comics

Haven't read much of the New 52? You've missed nothing when it comes to the Justice League.
Shazam was introduced in a back-up in Justice League, it was a decent enough story and it seems like they intend to introduce him as a full on member at some point, but you're right, he did supplement Aquaman in the animated movie, supposedly it's because it made the movie easier to write and choreograph because of flying scenes. For a while it seemed as though they were going to introduce new members to the team, but they balked, changed their mind and wrote Forever Evil instead (which is shitty AND keeps getting delayed).
Though, given DC's current approach to giving things movies and how they have to be absurdly big names to even be considered, there's little chance that anyone but the "big 7" (maybe Shazam) will be in the movies to begin with.

"Zack Snyder set to direct"

Well... at least it's gonna *look* great.

I really wish I could have a sense of hope about this. I do. Cynicism isn't just tiresome, it's also tiring, and I would be happier if I could make myself believe that DC, its parent company, and the employees working on the film have any interest in giving me the movie I'd like rather than one that exists primarily to apologize for tights and capes.

I just can't do it, though. I do not have that faith. Sorry, DC, but I shan't be watching your movie of heroes you're ashamed of.

DC should stick to animation.

Their various animated direct to DVD features are awesome, and even the weaker ones are leagues ahead of Man of Steel and the likes.

Baron_BJ:
Haven't read much of the New 52? You've missed nothing when it comes to the Justice League.
Shazam was introduced in a back-up in Justice League, it was a decent enough story and it seems like they intend to introduce him as a full on member at some point, but you're right, he did supplement Aquaman in the animated movie, supposedly it's because it made the movie easier to write and choreograph because of flying scenes. For a while it seemed as though they were going to introduce new members to the team, but they balked, changed their mind and wrote Forever Evil instead (which is shitty AND keeps getting delayed).
Though, given DC's current approach to giving things movies and how they have to be absurdly big names to even be considered, there's little chance that anyone but the "big 7" (maybe Shazam) will be in the movies to begin with.

I'm surprised even Cyborg is there; I would have figured public knowledge is restrained to the Super Friends or something. And Cyborg hasn't been a Leaguer for long, either - I would have associated him with Teen Titans, if I knew him and didn't read comics. (And he might not be in the league, for all we know. He could just be Cyborg doin' cyborg stuff.)

Time will tell. I'm not counting on anything so far.

Andy of Comix Inc:
I'm surprised even Cyborg is there; I would have figured public knowledge is restrained to the Super Friends or something. And Cyborg hasn't been a Leaguer for long, either - I would have associated him with Teen Titans, if I knew him and didn't read comics. (And he might not be in the league, for all we know. He could just be Cyborg doin' cyborg stuff.)

Time will tell. I'm not counting on anything so far.

As best as I've been keeping up with things, Cyborg usually evokes memories of that Teen Titans cartoon from 2003 - so you can imagine my surprise with DC seeming to give him a lot of push at the minute (even more so as I recall Beastboy having a lot more fans).

That said, he's been popping up as a Leaguer frequently at the minute for some unexplained reason - in addition to being on the New 52 JL roster (as someone already said), he had starring roles in Doom, Flashpoint Paradox and War (where in Doom he was put in place of both Aquaman and Plastic Man, but I'm sure he had similar roles in the comics in the latter two).

Hopefully I'm not just rambling a bunch of nonsense. In truth, I don't fully get it either.

I feel like failing to establish a linked universe between all of their DC content will really have an impact on how the film plays out. As a result the only established characters that they are going to have will be Henry Caville's Superman, whilst Batman, Cyborg and Wonderwoman are all going to be in the same pool as Black Widow and Hawkeye from the Marvel universe where their characters were no where near fleshed out enough to really have an impact on the film other than "Guy with guns for arms who is half robot and woman who has a whip and bullet-proof bracelets (or whatever she does)", and whilst Batman does have the benefit of an entire trilogy before his inclusion in the Batman vs Superman film, but with an entirely different actor and director, his portrayal of the role may be entirely different from Christian Bale's portrayal of the Dark Knight. One thing that I would really like, and one thing that I feel would help the film, is if Stephen Amell and Grant Gustin could reprise their roles as The Arrow and The Flash to have some familiar characters within the film, as opposed to just recasting their roles, or ignoring them entirely.

It seems that this film is just cursed with controversy, with every decision aside from say, the casting of Cyborg and Superman, evoking the wrath of DC and film fans alike, and there is nothing that can really be done about it other than starting over.

The only surprise here is that Batman vs Superman is actually Batman vs Superman and not Justice League

Seems Warner wants to have Avengers without going through all the work needed to have Avengers. The reason Avengers worked was because it took established characters that people already knew from earlier movies and put them together in a crossover movie that tied together the plot threads from all those movies. So most viewers were invested right off the bat and the whole thing could move along with minimal exposition. And the reason why people were invested was because the preceding films were all good, or at the very least decent.

Here Warner's plans kinda fall apart - DC films have been kinda crap, with the exception of Nolan's Batman trilogy. Not only that, but their staunch refusal to tie the films together hamstrings their efforts. Continuity is a powerful tool to get people hooked for the long run and Warner seems to be waaaay too lazy to commit. So they get to make what is essentially the "B-list" of superhero movies while Marvel keeps raking in the cash...

So my initial assertion was right in regards to what David Goyer said earlier this month about there being no plans for a cohesive universe. In that, they will do it and want to... they just don't have any plan in place as to how. regardless, my expectations are set pretty low given Man Of Steel, Dark Knight Rises, and Green Lantern.

Andy of Comix Inc:

Baron_BJ:
Haven't read much of the New 52? You've missed nothing when it comes to the Justice League.
Shazam was introduced in a back-up in Justice League, it was a decent enough story and it seems like they intend to introduce him as a full on member at some point, but you're right, he did supplement Aquaman in the animated movie, supposedly it's because it made the movie easier to write and choreograph because of flying scenes. For a while it seemed as though they were going to introduce new members to the team, but they balked, changed their mind and wrote Forever Evil instead (which is shitty AND keeps getting delayed).
Though, given DC's current approach to giving things movies and how they have to be absurdly big names to even be considered, there's little chance that anyone but the "big 7" (maybe Shazam) will be in the movies to begin with.

I'm surprised even Cyborg is there; I would have figured public knowledge is restrained to the Super Friends or something. And Cyborg hasn't been a Leaguer for long, either - I would have associated him with Teen Titans, if I knew him and didn't read comics. (And he might not be in the league, for all we know. He could just be Cyborg doin' cyborg stuff.)

Time will tell. I'm not counting on anything so far.

Sir Shockwave:
As best as I've been keeping up with things, Cyborg usually evokes memories of that Teen Titans cartoon from 2003 - so you can imagine my surprise with DC seeming to give him a lot of push at the minute (even more so as I recall Beastboy having a lot more fans).

That said, he's been popping up as a Leaguer frequently at the minute for some unexplained reason - in addition to being on the New 52 JL roster (as someone already said), he had starring roles in Doom, Flashpoint Paradox and War (where in Doom he was put in place of both Aquaman and Plastic Man, but I'm sure he had similar roles in the comics in the latter two).

Hopefully I'm not just rambling a bunch of nonsense. In truth, I don't fully get it either.

Pretty simple really, DC has been fairly forward about what they're doing with Cyborg and, most recently, Wally West (He was recently redone to be a bi-racial time traveller http://www.newsarama.com/20938-the-flash-writers-talk-wally-west-changes-and-the-future-flash-spoilers.html). With the New 52 they claim to have dedicated themselves to being more culturally diverse and have adjusted themselves as such. With the Justice League they wanted to slim down the team to an iconic grouping, but they also felt that they needed racial diversity, but to keep with the idea of the team being iconic they chose Cyborg to be on the team due to him being their most prolific character of colour, like the earlier poster mentioned though, the character is famous due to him being a member of the Titans and before the New 52 he had nothing to do with the Justice League.

I'm not eagainst moving Cyborg to the Justice League to give the team a more diverse cast (it also helps that he can fulfil a really tech-based role within the group, even if those abilities often overlap with other members), what I do dislike is the fact that the character hasn't been fucking used at all since being moved to the team (in the books thusfar he's been the team bus and has barely had the chance to fucking speak), but that's a tangent unrelated to the movies.

DC is making themselves look more and more like the kid at the sandbox who won't stop talking about how awesome and great he and everything he does is going to be while pissing himself and wiping snot off his face.

How on earth do they still subscribe to this idiotic, rushed cash grab business model? So far they've only got the Dark Knight Tril... oh wait, that doesn't count because B vs. Superman is gonna be a reboot. So far they've only got Man of Steel to back themselves up, and that wasn't a mega-success like the Avengers. Green Lantern is pretty much forgotten about at this point. As much as I'd like to see an equally good counterpart to the Avengers, I just don't think it's gonna happen.

Hey I've got an idea! Let's ditch superheroes altogether for a while and make an Elephantmen movie instead! Who's with me?

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