Marvel: The Avengers Game Will Come When Right Developer Found

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Marvel: The Avengers Game Will Come When Right Developer Found

Marvel head of games, TQ Jefferson, speaks out on why there's no The Avengers game out now and claims, "Gamers, they know better. They're not going to flock to something that's sub-par."

If you're one of the many people wondering why we've yet to see a game based on Marvel's highly successful The Avengers franchise, you're not alone. Unfortunately, though, it seems that's not coming anytime soon, if comments from Marvel's head of games TQ Jefferson are to be believed. Speaking to IGN, Jefferson says that The Avengers game will come once they've found the "right partner," since he knows releasing something sub-par won't be embraced by gamers.

The Avengers game will come when we have the right partner, that has the right vision, that has the time to develop a strong, competitive triple-A title and wants to do it right...It has to hit our three pillars: Fun and engaging gameplay, true to the characters, compelling story. Without hitting those notes, we shouldn't do it. Gamers, they know better. They're not going to flock to something that's sub-par.

Jefferson also admits that most movie licensed games weren't good and says, "I think the fact that there wasn't an Avengers game turned out in time for the film is indicative of Marvel's new attitude and the approach to how we find partners and build games. I think in the heyday of the movie licensed game, these games were popping out all the time and most of them sucked." The exec also acknowledges that games based on past movie properties like Captain America and Thor weren't exactly good and mentions Marvel "got a bloody nose on those."

Seeing as Jefferson mentions that they want to have the right developer to tackle The Avengers game, it's easy to surmise that they haven't found that studio yet. Who in your opinion would be the perfect studio to develop a full-fledged, triple A The Avengers game and what genre should it be?

For the latest in Marvel game news, make sure to check out Marvel Super Heroes, which was unveiled for Disney Infinity yesterday.

Source: IGN

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The movies certainly wouldnt translate that well into a game but if it was a stand alone story then it could totally work

Rocksteady could easily pull this off - only developer for YEARS that has any idea at all how to approach a superhero game.

*laughs at Beenox in the corner* - points for trying guys but you've failed like just about everyone else.

AndrewC:
Rocksteady could easily pull this off - only developer for YEARS that has any idea at all how to approach a superhero game.

*laughs at Beenox in the corner* - points for trying guys but you've failed like just about everyone else.

I got to play the angel's prosecutor here and point out that they only made two games of one superhero. Two rather terrific games I often play challenge modes of for quick pick up and play, but still. Then again, with amount of talent Rocksteady has, that's not a problem. The problem is, that they now belong to Warner Bros.

AndrewC:
Rocksteady

I was thinking the exact same thing. Get out of my head!

Seems this TQ Jefferson is, at least on the outside, gamer savvy. So it may be highly unlikely that Ubisoft or EA would get the contract.

After playing Saints Row IV, I'd say that Volition could probably pull it off. SR4's gameplay was solid, and they definitely have the teammate banter down.

Alex Co:

Marvel head of games, TQ Jefferson, speaks out on why there's no The Avengers game out now and claims, "Gamers, they know better. They're not going to flock to something that's sub-par."

Dear TQ,

I would call to your attention Marvel Avengers: Battle for Earth (released in October 2012). What the fuck was that? Oh wait. I know. A shitty ass attempt at cashing in on the hype of the movie.

In summary...
1. There is a game
2. It is sub-par
3. We did know better

Edit:

P.S.
While Captain America, Iron Man, Hulk, and Thor all have their own licensed games, not all of them are bad.

The Captain America game was actually quite good. But stay away from Iron Man, and Hulk, and Thor. Iron Man had missions where the enemies respawned indefinitely and so did the objectives you were supposed to destroy. Hulk was entertaining to go and smash stuff but the missions were boring. Thor was just bad because it was a beat'em up where the collision detection was terrible. It was one of those "You had one job..." things where they fucked the only necessary thing up.

Captcha: Of course

Rocksteady is a good choice, but I doubt Warner Bros would let them make something for Marvel as long as they're working with DC. Sucker Punch would be my first pick but they're owned by Sony who are also completing with Marvel in the movie scene... Plus then it would be a PlayStation exclusive and they'd lose millions of potential customers.

Maybe Platinum could do it? They know how to make a fun, over the top action game. I'd like to see what they could do with all the different Marvel characters.

Whoever they go with in the end, they would need some Marvel writers to write the script if they want to hit those three pillars.

how refreshing.

how funny would it be if they ended up giving the licence to Activision though? :D

We had those massive things, can't remember what they were called, at the beginning of the...last? Console generation, where you'd have a team of 4 and essentially it was a continuity with a large selection of heroes and villains in it. They were decent from what I remember.

But also FoolKiller hit the nail pretty squarely.

RealRT:

AndrewC:
Rocksteady could easily pull this off - only developer for YEARS that has any idea at all how to approach a superhero game.

*laughs at Beenox in the corner* - points for trying guys but you've failed like just about everyone else.

I got to play the angel's prosecutor here and point out that they only made two games of one superhero. Two rather terrific games I often play challenge modes of for quick pick up and play, but still. Then again, with amount of talent Rocksteady has, that's not a problem. The problem is, that they now belong to Warner Bros.

Not a problem at all. Travellers Tales is owned by WB and they make both DC and Marvel lego games. There was aGame Informer article a while back that discussed this in context of The Lego Marvel game which basically said that WB knows it would be stupid from a financial standpoint to restrict devs working on rivals products and are apparantly quite hands off (with TT at least) in regards to what franchises they look at.

If they can work on this I dont see why they wouldnt allow other devs to work on something.

FoolKiller:

Alex Co:

Marvel head of games, TQ Jefferson, speaks out on why there's no The Avengers game out now and claims, "Gamers, they know better. They're not going to flock to something that's sub-par."

Dear TQ,

I would call to your attention Marvel Avengers: Battle for Earth (released in October 2012). What the fuck was that? Oh wait. I know. A shitty ass attempt at cashing in on the hype of the movie.

In summary...
1. There is a game
2. It is sub-par
3. We did know better

Wasn't Battle for Earth based on Secret Invasion? It's got characters in it (like Magneto) that Marvel Studios isn't even allowed to use, so it's not really a movie tie-in.

The main problem is that an Avengers movie would have to reference the events and characters of the movies universe (like the changes they did from "Earth Mightiest Heroes" to "Avengers Assemble" to make it more similar to the established universe), and it would be constricted by them. Truth is, there has been several decent games with the avengers (Ultimate Alliance and Marvel LEGO come to mind) but one of the best things about them is that they were unrestricted with the characters and story...

Drummodino:
Maybe Platinum could do it? They know how to make a fun, over the top action game. I'd like to see what they could do with all the different Marvel characters.

They are probably too crazy for Marvel and Disney. After all, Marvel is known to have people working at Capcom to make sure their characters powers were canonical, and Disney is known for being extremely protective of their IPs.
On the other hand, Platinum finest work is done while they are unhindered by censors, editors, or reality.

There's already a Marvel Avengers game and it's pretty awesome. It's called Lego Marvel Super Heroes.

The Marvel: Ultimate Alliance games were pretty fun too.

I do say this with a lot of things, but give it to Platinum!

They can do a silly, OTT action game, which is what I'd want for a game full of superheroes

Funnily enough I had a dream last night Bioware made a Mass Effect sytle game set during the Secret Invasion with the Player being a new low-power custom superhero tasked by S.H.I.E.L.D. to investigate super heroes and take down any Skrulls you find.

Woke up so sad that I couldn't actually play that game.

AndrewC:
Rocksteady could easily pull this off - only developer for YEARS that has any idea at all how to approach a superhero game.

I can't wait to see Hulk forced to dodge punches from average mooks to avoid dying. Or do the whole "predator cam" thing.

HULK STEALTH!

jelock:

If they can work on this I dont see why they wouldnt allow other devs to work on something.

In short: people overestimate the "rivalries" between companies. Business is business is business.

thetoddo:
Funnily enough I had a dream last night Bioware made a Mass Effect sytle game set during the Secret Invasion with the Player being a new low-power custom superhero tasked by S.H.I.E.L.D. to investigate super heroes and take down any Skrulls you find.

Woke up so sad that I couldn't actually play that game.

"I'm Commander Fury and this is my favourite shop on the Helicarrier."

I want to see it.

Marvel: Ultimate Alliance and its sequel were awesome "Avengers" games. True, they didn't hold the actual "Avengers" title, but they had the idea pretty down pat.

To this day those games are still a lot of fun, especially couch co-op with friends.

i suspect they looked at their games...then looked at DCs games (for example the Batman: Arkham series which has been massive in the last few years) and though...hang on a min...we're doing something wrong....

and that the guy is being basically straight up.

...it seems kinda obvious no ?...

"Gamers, they know better. They're not going to flock to something that's sub-par."
Ok then, give it to Platinum or Rocksteady, and make something that will be remembered for years much like Arkham Asylum... and make it coop...

And if Platinum has the go, make sure Maniac Agenda does the music again... I want Rules of Nature to play every Hulk QTE.
-How to sell video games, 2014.

JagermanXcell:
... and make it coop...

oh i like that idea...with a lobby..but you'd have to be prepared to play any or a fairly broad choice of chars for matchmaking to work...private games too ofc

i could play with my nephews in France :)

although i'd probably get stuck with Hawkeye...

Or they could just make Ultimate Alliance 3 or a version thereof. I loved the first one - the voice-acting is incredibly high-caliber and the story, though not all-in-all particularly insightful or deep, weaves so well throughout the entire Marvel universe and sets things up in a way that, for that universe, makes sense that I almost wish it were canon in the comics.

AndrewC:
Rocksteady could easily pull this off - only developer for YEARS that has any idea at all how to approach a superhero game.

*laughs at Beenox in the corner* - points for trying guys but you've failed like just about everyone else.

Nnnnnope.

Rocksteady is not the right developer for this hypothetical game. We're dealing with multiple characters in an action universe telling a story. Batman isn't that it's one perspective in an action heavy game with some storyline, which is good, but the one perspective messes it up (yes I know you can play other charters but they're generally not as fleshed out).

We need someone who has done action rpg, with this multiple perspective. Gearbox (developers of borderlands) could be a good one, if they could do story a bit better (which I think the D&D dlc showed they could). Rockstar would be a nice one (though they never would).

So, maybe Omega Force of Warriors Orochi / Toukiden fame could work on it. Well, as long as it's a one-off and not a near-yearly rerelease.

Avengers could work like MARVEL: Ultimate Alliance. So, Raven Software could pull it off. A third person action/adventure game would be too hard and too expensive to pull off and be good. You'd have to make the gameplay completely different for every single character in the Avengers roster. You couldn't have the same gameplay elements for Iron Man and Thor for example, or Black Widow.

Anyways, this is one game where having the voice actors from the MCU would be of huge importance. I want my Black Widow voiced by the lovely Scarlett Johansson.

AndrewC:
Rocksteady could easily pull this off - only developer for YEARS that has any idea at all how to approach a superhero game.

*laughs at Beenox in the corner* - points for trying guys but you've failed like just about everyone else.

Tt Games (of Lego fame) would object to that. Also whoever did Spider Man 2.

Also if Irrational was still a thing I'd love to see a Freedom Force-esque Marvel game (not the Avengers MCU because turning that into Baldur's Gate would be too niche in theory).

You see, Activision could do this. But they just decide not to and fuck up the movie tie in games. They have the guys that can easily pull this off, we have seen many Activision games that stick true to the lore they are basing it off (Transformers WFC/FOC anyone? Admittedly this was High Moon Studio's but Activiosn played a part in it to)

Ubisoft could pull this off if they keep Uplay out of it.

Square Enix maybe,if u want over the top and fun, look no further than Just Cause 2...

Hell, i'd even trust EA if they got the right guy to do it. People may give them a lot of flak but they have produced some pretty awesome games in there time.

Just because Rocksteady does a good Batman game does not mean they've the talent for ALL superhero games and types. C'mon folks, we should at least think a little bit more critically about these things. Doing an Avengers game and not making it suck is no small task. You have different powersets, plus the Hulk. With the Hulk, you HAVE to be able to wreck cityscapes and such, and that takes a lot of code to do right by, and thats just one guy...

Were it me, I'd say give it to (in descending order):

  • Ubisoft
  • Bioware
  • Rocksteady
  • Obsidian
  • Bungie
  • Blizzard
  • Capcom
  • Zachary Amaranth:

    AndrewC:
    Rocksteady could easily pull this off - only developer for YEARS that has any idea at all how to approach a superhero game.

    I can't wait to see Hulk forced to dodge punches from average mooks to avoid dying. Or do the whole "predator cam" thing.

    HULK STEALTH!

    How would this not be awesome. Imagine Hulk crouching yet being twice as tall as anyone else sneaking up on a guy and then bashing him like Loki in the end of avengers as a silent takedown, and then jumping up on a gargoyle.

    How about Irrational? Could be a Freedom Force style RPG (unfortunately that wouldn't be seen as guaranteed money so not likely)

    HannesPascal:

    How would this not be awesome. Imagine Hulk crouching yet being twice as tall as anyone else sneaking up on a guy and then bashing him like Loki in the end of avengers as a silent takedown, and then jumping up on a gargoyle.

    Actually, you know what? You just sold me on it.

    Someone make this. NAO.

    This sounds like a quote by a guy who had nothing to do with this thing:

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    That aside, an Avengers game doesn't NEED to be triple A. It doesn't have to be on par with the games Sega used to made for Marvel flicks (up until they were told to stop). As much as I enjoyed X-Men Legends and, Marvel: Ultimate Alliance, nobody would tell you (with a straight face) that any games from those series were meant to have been triple-A. I don't want to encourage reboots but a new Ultimate Alliance would probably excite a whole lot more people than a game based off of The Avengers movies. Well, maybe...I'd rather have a new Ultimate Alliance anyway...

    What's with this respect? It's almost as if we're treated like people. It's weird.

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