Elder Scrolls Online Console Version Delayed Six Months - Update

Elder Scrolls Online Console Version Delayed Six Months - Update

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PC players who play The Elder Scrolls Online by the end of June will have the opportunity to transfer their characters to either console version when they are released.

Update: A Bethesda representative has confirmed the six month delay with the following official response:

We've been grateful to our fans for the wonderful response to our recent launch of The Elder Scrolls Online for PC/Mac, but we know many of you are eagerly waiting to play the game on the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One.

We continue to work on the console versions of ESO, and game development has been progressing steadily, but we are still working to solve a series of unique problems specific to those platforms. Integrating our systems with each console manufacturer's networks -- which are both different from the PC/Mac system as well as different from each other-has been a challenging process. It has become clear that our planned June release of the console versions isn't going to be possible. Though we have made great progress, we have concluded that we'll need about six months to ensure we deliver the experience our fans expect and deserve.

We know that the news of an ESO console delay is as disappointing to many of you as it is to us. We want to do what we can to make it up to our fans who want to start playing now, so we have worked out the following arrangement with Sony and Microsoft:

Via a special offer, anyone who purchases and plays the PC/Mac version of The Elder Scrolls Online by the end of June will have the opportunity to transfer their character(s) to either console version when they are released. The offer will allow you to begin playing immediately on the PC/Mac, and then add the PS4 or Xbox One version and transfer the character(s) you have created and developed. And, you don't have to pay full price for the game twice. For $20, eligible PC and Mac players will have the option to add a full, digital version of ESO on either the PS4 or the Xbox One with your character transfer(s), and another 30 days of included game time.

Whether you decide to take advantage of this offer or not, we promise to do everything we can to get the game released on both consoles as quickly as we can. We will keep everyone updated with additional details regarding character transfers, specific offer dates, when you can expect console beta to start, and of course, when ESO on consoles will launch.

Thank you for your patience and loyal support.

Original Story: While The Elder Scrolls Online was released on PC last month, console gamers have still been patiently waiting to get their hands on Bethesda's new MMO. According to some info on the game's official F.A.Q, they may be waiting for a whole six months longer. The line about the delay contained a broken link to a blog post promising more detail about the delay, and has since been removed all together from the website, leading us to believe someone at Bethesda flipped a switch too early.

"The Elder Scrolls Online officially launched on April 4, 2014 on PC and Mac," said the F.A.Q, "While it has become clear that our planned June release of the console versions isn't going to be possible, we have made great progress, we have concluded that we'll need about six more months to ensure we deliver the experience our fans expect and deserve."

The live F.A.Q now only contains the first line of that post, but quick-fingered redditors managed to snap a screenshot of the original posting, which you can view here. According to reddit, Bethesda is deleting posts and banning people who link to the F.A.Q post about the delay on its social media.

We've reached out to Bethesda for confirmation of the delay.

Source: reddit

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If they do this, it will seal the fate of the console version. I, myself, wont be purchasing it, if it happens that way. I accepted the 2 month advantage of PC players, but an 8 month advantage will just annoy me and ruin it. And I'm a fairly forgiving person, so I'm sure I'm not the only one.

well the PC version is basically unfinished in that it's missing two of the most famous guilds...

and yes i know that's supposedly "the plan"...but still i say "unfinished"...and it would be seen as such by many console scrolls players

The Thieves Guild and The Dark Brotherhood are both...late...and for many people/players those are kinda signature things...

martyrdrebel27:
If they do this, it will seal the fate of the console version. I, myself, wont be purchasing it, if it happens that way. I accepted the 2 month advantage of PC players, but an 8 month advantage will just annoy me and ruin it. And I'm a fairly forgiving person, so I'm sure I'm not the only one.

i dont understand this mentality at the best of times...but even less so with an MMO...especially one which will have separate PC/console servers...

with an MMO if you're "late to the party"...you almost always actually end up playing a better game.

Sleekit:
well the PC version is basically unfinished in that it's missing two of the most famous guilds...

and yes i know that's supposedly "the plan"...but still i say "unfinished"...and it would be seen as such by many console scrolls players

The Thieves Guild and The Dark Brotherhood are both...late...and for many people/players those are kinda signature things...

Oh well thank god I didn't buy it. Is the morag tong in? So that we have at least one assassin guild? What about Camonna tong? That skinhead gang that sells drugs in morrowind?

I need a criminal element in my elder scrolls. An actual one that matters, like in morrowind.

Judging from what i seen of the missions, they are a mess. Its no surprise. Angry joe posted a video on this, and the "epic" in the elder scrolls was destroyed. I mean, look at the part where they set fire to the ships. at 27:20.

Embarrassing.

if ESO gets on consoles at all, I will be majorly surprised.

ESO is like the PC version of GTA V. A buggy mess with tacked on online features that only cause pain to the devs and players alike. If they stuck to single player, we wouldn't have been in this situation.

Sleekit:
well the PC version is basically unfinished in that it's missing two of the most famous guilds...

and yes i know that's supposedly "the plan"...but still i say "unfinished"...and it would be seen as such by many console scrolls players

The Thieves Guild and The Dark Brotherhood are both...late...and for many people/players those are kinda signature things...

martyrdrebel27:
If they do this, it will seal the fate of the console version. I, myself, wont be purchasing it, if it happens that way. I accepted the 2 month advantage of PC players, but an 8 month advantage will just annoy me and ruin it. And I'm a fairly forgiving person, so I'm sure I'm not the only one.

i dont understand this mentality at the best of times...but even less so with an MMO...especially one which will have separate PC/console servers...

with an MMO if you're "late to the party"...you almost always actually end up playing a better game.

because, from everything I've heard and read, this is a fairly standard mmo affair with an elder scrolls paint job, and I don't know that its going to have the longevity of WOW, so that six months is going going to be a large difference. Also, its just that jilted gamer mentality of "sorry, you had your chance" and they move onto whatever else is happening in the scene.

all this being said, for all my big talk, I'll end up still getting it possibly, depending on a number of factors, its just pretty damn annoying.

WoW isn't designed for people to come in from work and hack a few skellingtons (or toons muahahhaha) to bits with mates over the net while lazing on the sofa.

"a PC MMO" (especially one with a raiding end game) imo is actually a very different proposition from "a console MMO".

"a console MMO" should basically be much more a social space in which you can do fun stuff.

almost the antithesis of the "srs bsns" side of PC MMOs that has some people sitting at desks into the wee small hours and beyond as if it's a second job...

oh and btw...the pvp...is very fun when it works...its everything MMO PVP should be before the "1 on 1 balance" crowd got their claws in and fucked it...

think "Old School AV" (if that means anything to you)...dialed up to 11...

Ultratwinkie:

Sleekit:
well the PC version is basically unfinished in that it's missing two of the most famous guilds...

and yes i know that's supposedly "the plan"...but still i say "unfinished"...and it would be seen as such by many console scrolls players

The Thieves Guild and The Dark Brotherhood are both...late...and for many people/players those are kinda signature things...

Oh well thank god I didn't buy it. Is the morag tong in? So that we have at least one assassin guild?

The Morag Tong is in the game but only in a way that you do quests for people that are in the guild, and you only see three people that are Morag Tong.

I really wanted to join them on my Argonian Nightblade, but there wasn't the option given to me.

Heheh, some of these comments have caused me to think of ESO as being in "Early Access" phase.

I'm sure 6 months is all it will take the game to go f2p, just in time for consoles by remarkable coincidence no doubt.

Ultratwinkie:

Sleekit:
well the PC version is basically unfinished in that it's missing two of the most famous guilds...

and yes i know that's supposedly "the plan"...but still i say "unfinished"...and it would be seen as such by many console scrolls players

The Thieves Guild and The Dark Brotherhood are both...late...and for many people/players those are kinda signature things...

Oh well thank god I didn't buy it. Is the morag tong in? So that we have at least one assassin guild? What about Camonna tong? That skinhead gang that sells drugs in morrowind?

I need a criminal element in my elder scrolls. An actual one that matters, like in morrowind.

Judging from what i seen of the missions, they are a mess. Its no surprise. Angry joe posted a video on this, and the "epic" in the elder scrolls was destroyed. I mean, look at the part where they set fire to the ships. at 27:20.

Embarrassing.

if ESO gets on consoles at all, I will be majorly surprised.

ESO is like the PC version of GTA V. A buggy mess with tacked on online features that only cause pain to the devs and players alike. If they stuck to single player, we wouldn't have been in this situation.

AngryJoe didn't even get to level 20, the level cap is roughly 150 (50 levels, then 10 veteran levels roughly equivalent to 10 levels each.

maybe you should try things out rather than listening to people fishing for views by doomsaying

martyrdrebel27:
If they do this, it will seal the fate of the console version. I, myself, wont be purchasing it, if it happens that way. I accepted the 2 month advantage of PC players, but an 8 month advantage will just annoy me and ruin it. And I'm a fairly forgiving person, so I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Don't not buy it because PC & Mac players will have an advantage, the PS4, XB1, and PC mega servers aren't connected. Don't buy it because it's a shit game and an MMO to boot.

AdamG3691:
AngryJoe didn't even get to level 20, the level cap is roughly 150 (50 levels, then 10 veteran levels roughly equivalent to 10 levels each.

maybe you should try things out rather than listening to people fishing for views by doomsaying

Adam, stop trying to use your logic to win this argument. You're wrong, we're right. You know why? Because people agree with us, we see plenty of commentators and other people whose opinions we generally agree with/align ourselves with say they dislike this and rather than actually do any checking on the quality of their opinion in this matter or even discuss the fact that trying to rate an MMO at any point in its life is just redundant. I'm perfectly happy to let Angry Joe to tell me whether I like or dislike something.

Even more so I'm entirely happy to do no research or even a cursory search to find out whether my tacked on opinion about whether they should have just stuck to single-player games has any relevance.

AdamG3691:

Ultratwinkie:

Sleekit:
well the PC version is basically unfinished in that it's missing two of the most famous guilds...

and yes i know that's supposedly "the plan"...but still i say "unfinished"...and it would be seen as such by many console scrolls players

The Thieves Guild and The Dark Brotherhood are both...late...and for many people/players those are kinda signature things...

Oh well thank god I didn't buy it. Is the morag tong in? So that we have at least one assassin guild? What about Camonna tong? That skinhead gang that sells drugs in morrowind?

I need a criminal element in my elder scrolls. An actual one that matters, like in morrowind.

Judging from what i seen of the missions, they are a mess. Its no surprise. Angry joe posted a video on this, and the "epic" in the elder scrolls was destroyed. I mean, look at the part where they set fire to the ships. at 27:20.

Embarrassing.

if ESO gets on consoles at all, I will be majorly surprised.

ESO is like the PC version of GTA V. A buggy mess with tacked on online features that only cause pain to the devs and players alike. If they stuck to single player, we wouldn't have been in this situation.

AngryJoe didn't even get to level 20, the level cap is roughly 150 (50 levels, then 10 veteran levels roughly equivalent to 10 levels each.

maybe you should try things out rather than listening to people fishing for views by doomsaying

Level 20 and its boring? How is someone being bored by level 20 a good mark for a game?

"guaranteed to make you regret your purchase 13.3% into the game!"

I should not buy a 60$ title with a 15$ subscription and more on top of that to get all the content. I should not pay close to 100$ to "validate my opinion."

That may fly on consoles, but on PC that is unforgivable. No one should have to waste that kind of money on something to JUST try it.

And on top of that, all the footage I see on it is either player orgies or just sheer boredom and underwhelming gameplay.

The gamebyro engine had better, epic quests than what I saw in that video. And the gamebryo engine can't handle anything. Its an ancient engine.

Why should I pay that much for a game that is worse than the singleplayer elder scrolls? And more than what I would pay for than buying Skyrim? Or even Fallout?

Ultratwinkie:
Is the morag tong in?

There's a couple recurring Morag Tong members in the Pact questline. You can't actually join the Tong, but you can work with them.

008Zulu:
Heheh, some of these comments have caused me to think of ESO as being in "Early Access" phase.

I'm sure 6 months is all it will take the game to go f2p, just in time for consoles by remarkable coincidence no doubt.

That's quite common for the beginning of the lifecycle of an MMO.

But ESO charged 50 from the start and a subscription cost on top of that, so they really shouldn't be releasing in an incomplete state.

OT: I guess all that can be hoped is that this delay is due to the need to fix a lot of ESO content and will end with a better product to reach consoles. There shouldn't be a rush need to want this on console when it was executed so badly on PC.

Via a special offer, anyone who purchases and plays the PC/Mac version of The Elder Scrolls Online by the end of June will have the opportunity to transfer their character(s) to either console version when they are released. The offer will allow you to begin playing immediately on the PC/Mac, and then add the PS4 or Xbox One version and transfer the character(s) you have created and developed. And, you don't have to pay full price for the game twice. For $20, eligible PC and Mac players will have the option to add a full, digital version of ESO on either the PS4 or the Xbox One with your character transfer(s), and another 30 days of included game time.

In other words, $60 gets you the game on all platforms, $15/mo subscription, and $5 for character transfer.

Well if it means that the end product will be better.
Then that's all good in my view.

Rather have it the best it could be.

Ultratwinkie:

Level 20 and its boring? How is someone being bored by level 20 a good mark for a game?

"guaranteed to make you regret your purchase 13.3% into the game!"

To be honest there are plenty of good games that start slow and boring but then get better by the end, although I seriously doubt an MMO is one of them.

Good, that will give console players at least six more months to forget this title ever existed, and spend their hard earned money somewhere else. Because I for one, regret spending my money is this bare-boned, minimum of a game.

Nothing about this game feels fresh or alive and I can only hope that when it finally releases on the console, enough people will have had a chance to warn about this excuse of an Elder Scroll game.

Yes, I am a little bit ticked off for spending nearly 80 euro's on this.

Frankly, having put so many hours into the game already, ESO could have really done with 6 more months of beta testing. As it stands it feels like I'm paying to experience a beta.

ESO is not a game worth your time. It's just not up to the standard a modern MMO would need to be to justify it's price. It feels like a bad MMO launch from ten years ago.

AdamG3691:
AngryJoe didn't even get to level 20, the level cap is roughly 150 (50 levels, then 10 veteran levels roughly equivalent to 10 levels each.

maybe you should try things out rather than listening to people fishing for views by doomsaying

Considering that MMOs generally have a lot of their better content early in order to get players to stay subbed if the first 20 levels are poor it can only get worse.

You know, as someone who games on consoles, I'm not particularly torn up by this development.

Well that's neat.

Now the console version will probably coincide with the inevitable Free-To-Play implementation.

josemlopes:

Ultratwinkie:

Level 20 and its boring? How is someone being bored by level 20 a good mark for a game?

"guaranteed to make you regret your purchase 13.3% into the game!"

To be honest there are plenty of good games that start slow and boring but then get better by the end, although I seriously doubt an MMO is one of them.

WORLD OF WARCRAFT BABY. Bet you don't even lift your weight in the 25H WF SoG, and bet you didn't even reforge out of that 10% hit rating. Do you even have DBM installed? Using default UI? Casul Flex Raider. WRATH RUINED WOW BEFORE BC EVER CAME OUT, HARK!

Ahem... (You're fine :D)

OT:
I've got little to say outside of having played the beta and marking it as a fairly bland experience. I don't know if I'd ever want a blander one on the consoles. I don't hate it by any means, but eh, not compelling to me personally.

So they might as well try to finish their game by the time they put it on consoles, and do it for the PC as well...

Ultratwinkie:

Sleekit:
well the PC version is basically unfinished in that it's missing two of the most famous guilds...

and yes i know that's supposedly "the plan"...but still i say "unfinished"...and it would be seen as such by many console scrolls players

The Thieves Guild and The Dark Brotherhood are both...late...and for many people/players those are kinda signature things...

Oh well thank god I didn't buy it. Is the morag tong in? So that we have at least one assassin guild? What about Camonna tong? That skinhead gang that sells drugs in morrowind?

I need a criminal element in my elder scrolls. An actual one that matters, like in morrowind.

Judging from what i seen of the missions, they are a mess. Its no surprise. Angry joe posted a video on this, and the "epic" in the elder scrolls was destroyed. I mean, look at the part where they set fire to the ships. at 27:20.

Embarrassing.

if ESO gets on consoles at all, I will be majorly surprised.

ESO is like the PC version of GTA V. A buggy mess with tacked on online features that only cause pain to the devs and players alike. If they stuck to single player, we wouldn't have been in this situation.

I hate to be a jerk to you, but anyone who uses Angry Joe's review of the game clearly hasn't done enough research into the game to make any kind of statement on it.

Angry Joe's review uses deceptive and downright false information, exagerates the little problems of the game to a monumental proportion, and completely glosses over all of the positive aspects of the game. He had a very clear idea of what he wanted the game to be before it launched and his review is so laughably biased that its pathetic. This video was a VERY carefully made anti-hype piece on ESO for the channel views. And it worked.

I lost all respect for Angry Joe (not that I had that much to begin with) when I watched this video about ESO.

As someone who has been playing and thoroughly loving ESO so far, I can tell you that the game is far, FAR from perfect as it is right now, but the problems that AJ brings up are almost all invalid or WAY overstated. If you want me to go into a more thorough explanation for the pros and cons of the game just let me know and I will, but just know that AJ's review is complete and utter bullshit and you should not use that video for anything other than fuel for facepalming to.

On the topic of the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood. Both of those are coming sometime this year as well as a full justice system. In the reddit AMA they did last week they teased that there would be a bounty system for killing NPCs and stealing and that players could join the guards to track down criminals and such. This IMO will make the game much more dynamic and add something that I don't think that many MMO's have.

This game has only been out for a month. It's not perfect but it's off to a promising start. Everyone please stop with the anti-hype for it and actually look seriously at it instead of falling for the anti-hype. If you want a fairer review for ESO please watch this video which I think is the fairest and most objective look at the game.

Thanks.

ha, so they expect you to buy two versions, a subscription fee, and additional transactions?

that shit is ridiculous

edit: i am aware that it is discounted, but it is still kinda scummy. it doesn't clarify if the data will be stored on a cloud, or if the character will just be imported once. if it's the latter, it's not even worth it

suitepee7:
ha, so they expect you to buy two versions, a subscription fee, and additional transactions?

that shit is ridiculous

edit: i am aware that it is discounted, but it is still kinda scummy. it doesn't clarify if the data will be stored on a cloud, or if the character will just be imported once. if it's the latter, it's not even worth it

How exactly is it scummy? They don't "expect" you to buy anything, they're simply giving an option to people if they don't want to have to wait the full 6 months to play the game but were waiting for the console launch. If you'd rather wait 6 months then feel free to do that. It's a pretty generous offer and something that they didn't have to do. If you were really gung-ho about the console version at least now you have an option to play the game on PC first instead of waiting 6 months.

Also you do realize that the $20 transfer cmes with ANOTHER free month of subscription right? So it's basically 5 dollars more and you get a month subscription and get to transfer our character to your console of choice. I haven't seen any other company offer something like that before.

Yeah that's so scummy of them. Maybe they should do what every other company does and tell their consumers "tough shit, either wait your time or buy the PC version if you dont want to wait and then buy it again for full price on consoles and start from scratch again." That's so much less of a scummy thing to do.

Sight Unseen:

Ultratwinkie:

Sleekit:
well the PC version is basically unfinished in that it's missing two of the most famous guilds...

and yes i know that's supposedly "the plan"...but still i say "unfinished"...and it would be seen as such by many console scrolls players

The Thieves Guild and The Dark Brotherhood are both...late...and for many people/players those are kinda signature things...

Oh well thank god I didn't buy it. Is the morag tong in? So that we have at least one assassin guild? What about Camonna tong? That skinhead gang that sells drugs in morrowind?

I need a criminal element in my elder scrolls. An actual one that matters, like in morrowind.

Judging from what i seen of the missions, they are a mess. Its no surprise. Angry joe posted a video on this, and the "epic" in the elder scrolls was destroyed. I mean, look at the part where they set fire to the ships. at 27:20.

Embarrassing.

if ESO gets on consoles at all, I will be majorly surprised.

ESO is like the PC version of GTA V. A buggy mess with tacked on online features that only cause pain to the devs and players alike. If they stuck to single player, we wouldn't have been in this situation.

I hate to be a jerk to you, but anyone who uses Angry Joe's review of the game clearly hasn't done enough research into the game to make any kind of statement on it.

Angry Joe's review uses deceptive and downright false information, exagerates the little problems of the game to a monumental proportion, and completely glosses over all of the positive aspects of the game. He had a very clear idea of what he wanted the game to be before it launched and his review is so laughably biased that its pathetic. This video was a VERY carefully made anti-hype piece on ESO for the channel views. And it worked.

I lost all respect for Angry Joe (not that I had that much to begin with) when I watched this video about ESO.

As someone who has been playing and thoroughly loving ESO so far, I can tell you that the game is far, FAR from perfect as it is right now, but the problems that AJ brings up are almost all invalid or WAY overstated. If you want me to go into a more thorough explanation for the pros and cons of the game just let me know and I will, but just know that AJ's review is complete and utter bullshit and you should not use that video for anything other than fuel for facepalming to.

On the topic of the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood. Both of those are coming sometime this year as well as a full justice system. In the reddit AMA they did last week they teased that there would be a bounty system for killing NPCs and stealing and that players could join the guards to track down criminals and such. This IMO will make the game much more dynamic and add something that I don't think that many MMO's have.

This game has only been out for a month. It's not perfect but it's off to a promising start. Everyone please stop with the anti-hype for it and actually look seriously at it instead of falling for the anti-hype. If you want a fairer review for ESO please watch this video which I think is the fairest and most objective look at the game.

Thanks.

Jesus Christ. That review was more like a monotone advertisement than anything else.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-elder-scrolls-online

You love ESO? Well look at that. Because not everyone does. For one one that loved it, there is another that hated it. Its only 10 points above Goat Simulator, an indie game meant to be garbage. Its on the same level as Banished, a cheapo game made by one man. Every single thing that he talked about could be done in Skyrim, a much cheaper and objectively better game. In fact, all the MMO bonuses could be done in F2P or more established MMOs like Planetside 2, EVE, DCUO, or APB. Or they can be done in online games like Day Z, Rust, etc.

If he took out all the obvious stuff present in all modern MMOs like crafting, no classes, and PVP it would be entirely made up of the same shit that Angry Joe talked about.

And I did look into the guy, he owns a guild. In ESO. So of course he is going to be "fairer" if it gets people to possibly join his guild.

Sight Unseen:

Ultratwinkie:

Sleekit:
well the PC version is basically unfinished in that it's missing two of the most famous guilds...

and yes i know that's supposedly "the plan"...but still i say "unfinished"...and it would be seen as such by many console scrolls players

The Thieves Guild and The Dark Brotherhood are both...late...and for many people/players those are kinda signature things...

Oh well thank god I didn't buy it. Is the morag tong in? So that we have at least one assassin guild? What about Camonna tong? That skinhead gang that sells drugs in morrowind?

I need a criminal element in my elder scrolls. An actual one that matters, like in morrowind.

Judging from what i seen of the missions, they are a mess. Its no surprise. Angry joe posted a video on this, and the "epic" in the elder scrolls was destroyed. I mean, look at the part where they set fire to the ships. at 27:20.

Embarrassing.

if ESO gets on consoles at all, I will be majorly surprised.

ESO is like the PC version of GTA V. A buggy mess with tacked on online features that only cause pain to the devs and players alike. If they stuck to single player, we wouldn't have been in this situation.

I hate to be a jerk to you, but anyone who uses Angry Joe's review of the game clearly hasn't done enough research into the game to make any kind of statement on it.

Angry Joe's review uses deceptive and downright false information, exagerates the little problems of the game to a monumental proportion, and completely glosses over all of the positive aspects of the game. He had a very clear idea of what he wanted the game to be before it launched and his review is so laughably biased that its pathetic. This video was a VERY carefully made anti-hype piece on ESO for the channel views. And it worked.

I lost all respect for Angry Joe (not that I had that much to begin with) when I watched this video about ESO.

As someone who has been playing and thoroughly loving ESO so far, I can tell you that the game is far, FAR from perfect as it is right now, but the problems that AJ brings up are almost all invalid or WAY overstated. If you want me to go into a more thorough explanation for the pros and cons of the game just let me know and I will, but just know that AJ's review is complete and utter bullshit and you should not use that video for anything other than fuel for facepalming to.

On the topic of the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood. Both of those are coming sometime this year as well as a full justice system. In the reddit AMA they did last week they teased that there would be a bounty system for killing NPCs and stealing and that players could join the guards to track down criminals and such. This IMO will make the game much more dynamic and add something that I don't think that many MMO's have.

This game has only been out for a month. It's not perfect but it's off to a promising start. Everyone please stop with the anti-hype for it and actually look seriously at it instead of falling for the anti-hype. If you want a fairer review for ESO please watch this video which I think is the fairest and most objective look at the game.

Thanks.

Opinions, gotta love em.

I for one completely agree with Angry Joe. And I've played the game for a fair bit.
Playing with other people who are not exactly on the same quest as you are is tedious at best. I started a character with 2 other friends. We played together for a bit, so far everything was fine. Then, we each took differently timed lunch breaks, and decided we'd continue to quest and just catch up.

This lead to the stupid, and unforgiving case that in some zones my friends would suddenly dissapear. Phase out, because I already did a quest there and was in a different phase. I just saw their floating arrow. I didn't see the mobs they saw, I couldn't help them, I couldn't even heal them.
That, right there, is the game's most stupid and biggest flaw. It breaks up parties. There is no excuse for this.
"But WoW has that too." No, WoW has a different phase for after a whole Quest chain. Not single quests.

Then there is the fact that so much classic Elderscroll content has been outright removed to make this into a bland MMO.
Where are the Illusion spells? Stealing is now rumoured to be added. Alteration spells? Conjuring has been utterly squashed.

Sorry, but to me, this game feels like nothing more then an empty, cashgrabbing, formulic, dead-inside, raised corpse. (another thing removed from the game)

Ultratwinkie:

Jesus Christ. That review was more like a monotone advertisement than anything else.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-elder-scrolls-online

You love ESO? Well look at that. Because not everyone does. For one one that loved it, there is another that hated it. Its only 10 points above Goat Simulator, an indie game meant to be garbage. Its on the same level as Banished, a cheapo game made by one man. Every single thing that he talked about could be done in Skyrim, a much cheaper and objectively better game. In fact, all the MMO bonuses could be done in F2P or more established MMOs like Planetside 2, EVE, DCUO, or APB. Or they can be done in online games like Day Z, Rust, etc.

If he took out all the obvious stuff present in all modern MMOs like crafting, no classes, and PVP it would be entirely made up of the same shit that Angry Joe talked about.

And I did look into the guy, he owns a guild. In ESO. So of course he is going to be "fairer" if it gets people to possibly join his guild.

Umm... Angry Joe also made a guild so that argument means precisely nothing.

I'm not even going to reply to your argument about metacritic.

And ESO does a lot of things different/better than other MMOs that it deserves credit for. It also does a lot of things worse, and I will freely admit to that. But an MMO isn't simply a checklist. you cant just look at an MMO and say:

Crafting- check
combat-check
raids-check
quests-check
PVP- none

4/5- 80%

It's the execution that matters, and the crafting system in this game is one of the best I've seen in any game ever, not just counting MMOs. The combat, while it has some issues like the sometimes unresponsive weapon toggle, some skills and passives not working properly, and some skills being unbalanced, I still think that the combat is better than Skyrim and better than most other MMO's that I've played (full disclosure: I haven't played that many MMOs)

Questing feels like it has a purpose. The fully voiced (albeit sometimes poorly) characters and meaningful stories do way more for me than most MMO's "Kill 10 x and bring me their kneecaps" or even Skyrim's "my magical macguffin got stolen by bandits and is now at the end of a dungeon two thirds of the way across the map" quests. Quite a few of the quests offer meaningful and often very grey decisions to make. While these decisions rarely affect more than the immediate consequences of the quest and the characters involved they still make for interesting choices that feel important.

I could go on about the positives in more detail if you like but I don't want to bore you.

I also want you to know that I'm not just a blind fanboy for this game. There are a lot of things this game does poorly and needs to improve on. There is no PVP dueling or battlegrounds, just the massive open world battleground of Cyrodiil. The zones aren't always paced very well and for completionists like me, I always end up overleveled for my PVE quests before I fully finish the zone. The games grouping mechanics can be wonky. I haven't personally had issues with them because I only play in groups with my girlfriend and we only play on those characters together, but for people who may have leveled separately, it can be a pain to group. There are quite a few glitches and skills that dont work properly but these are being dealt with. The game had pretty bad bot and gold seller issues, however the devs are taking active measures against them including sending GMs out to manually ban them. The veteran content seems to be poorly thought out and a bit lacking so far. I could go on.

I'm not blind to the issues this game has, but I can tolerate them because this is, overall, a GOOD game. And it doesn't deserve anywhere close to the amount of (mostly) blind hate it's getting in my opinion. This game is definitely not for everyone, and it's definitely not Skyrim Online, but it is a good game. It is not, in my opinion, a cynical cash grab. The devs for this game are listening to the feedback and criticism and responding openly to it. They did an AMA just last week and answered a lot of helpful questions. With an attitude like I'm seeing from these devs, I have a lot of hope for this game getting better and winning people back eventually. I just really wish people would give it a chance instead of just ruling it out as a cynical cash grab. If it's not your thing, fine don't play it, don't waste your money on it, I understand.

Ranorak:

Opinions, gotta love em.

I for one completely agree with Angry Joe. And I've played the game for a fair bit.
Playing with other people who are not exactly on the same quest as you are is tedious at best. I started a character with 2 other friends. We played together for a bit, so far everything was fine. Then, we each took differently timed lunch breaks, and decided we'd continue to quest and just catch up.

This lead to the stupid, and unforgiving case that in some zones my friends would suddenly dissapear. Phase out, because I already did a quest there and was in a different phase. I just saw their floating arrow. I didn't see the mobs they saw, I couldn't help them, I couldn't even heal them.
That, right there, is the game's most stupid and biggest flaw. It breaks up parties. There is no excuse for this.
"But WoW has that too." No, WoW has a different phase for after a whole Quest chain. Not single quests.

Then there is the fact that so much classic Elderscroll content has been outright removed to make this into a bland MMO.
Where are the Illusion spells? Stealing is now rumoured to be added. Alteration spells? Conjuring has been utterly squashed.

Sorry, but to me, this game feels like nothing more then an empty, cashgrabbing, formulic, dead-inside, raised corpse. (another thing removed from the game)

I just want to reply to your post to mention a few things. Your criticisms are valid. Those are real issues that the game has. However they are taking strides to fix them. Do I think that the PC version should have been delayed a few months to iron out more of the problems with the game? Probably. However they have been doing a fairly good job so far with updating and fixing bugs and a ton more fixes are coming in the next content patch.

Zenimax has already announced that in one of the next few patches they will be attempting to fix the grouping situation. I dont know how exactly they plan to do this, but they are working on it.

They have also confirmed that they will be adding spell crafting to the game and that it will follow the traditional spell classes of elder scrolls games (conjuration, alteration, restoration, illusion)

And that the thieves guild and dark brotherhood will be coming with a new justice system. The justice system is still in an early prototype so they havent released too many details but that will be upcoming in a few months hopefully.

So maybe you should check back every few months to see if those issues are fixed to your satisfaction and resub if they do get fixed :)

I'm gonna go back to happily enjoying my game though. Have a good day :)

 

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