No Final Fantasy XV, Kingdom Hearts 3 News at E3, Says Square

No Final Fantasy XV, Kingdom Hearts 3 News at E3, Says Square

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Fans of Square Enix's two biggest franchises may be in for a disappointing E3.

It's no question that Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts have easily become the biggest Square Enix franchises. So, Fans just kind of naturally expected to hear some more news about Final Fantasy XV and Kindgom Hearts 3 at this year's upcoming E3. Unfortunately, Square has confirmed that this is not the case, as while it is hard at work on both titles, it isn't ready to show anything new to the public.

Square's Shinji Hashimoto told Destructoid, "We are are working diligently on KH3, but I think releasing new information will still take some time. We included a small part regarding the story of KH3 In the new trailer KH 2.5 prepared for E3 2014, so please check that out."

As for FFXV Hashimoto said "First I'd like to say that development for FFXV is going well. Internally, we try to ascertain the best timing for revealing new information about FFXV to the fans. So when we were going over our promotion plans, we judged that this year's E3 would not be the best time to exhibit information about FFXV."

FFXV was originally announced back in 2006, under the title Final Fantasy XIII: Versus, and has been under heavy development since. Kingdom Hearts III was only announced at last year's E3, but Square says it has been working on it for quite some time.

Last we heard about these games, Square was squashing rumors that they would release in 2014.

Don't get your hopes up, folks!

Source: Destructoid

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Well, guess I shouldn't be surprised. Square seems to keep dragging these ones out in terms of showing them off or giving us information (How long did it take for them to give us a fucking answer for why Versus, now 15, was taking so long again?). Hell, we probably won't see anything of Kingdom Hearts 3 till about 2020 at this rate if we're lucky.

It kinda blows my mind that Final Fantasy XV will probably be released a full DECADE after it was first announced (albeit with a different title).

At least with Duke Nukem Forever we got the occasional trailer with gameplay. But I don't think we've seen a single gameplay trailer of this yet. Or many trailers at all, for that matter.

It's like ever couple of years Square pokes it's head out and says "Yeah, Versus XIII is still a thing. No, we're not going to show you anything important" and then crawls back in it's hole.

It makes me wonder if ANYTHING is left from the original pitch of this game. You don't keep a game on the burner for a decade without ditching some content. Hell, I wonder if the story even vaguely resembles what they had originally intended.

At least Kingdom Hearts has been fleshing out the backstory since the last numbered installment (which ALSO came out nearly a decade ago).

When they say they are working hard on it I think they mean the one guy working on both projects cause thats the only reason I can think of for it taking the better part of a decade.

Well I don't want to think about it if both of these are flops and knowing squares recent outings its a reasonable thing to assume then I think we might want to say goodbye to both franchises.

Leemaster777:
I don't think we've seen a single gameplay trailer of this yet. Or many trailers at all, for that matter.

At least Kingdom Hearts has been fleshing out the backstory since the last numbered installment (which ALSO came out nearly a decade ago).

There was some trailer with a guy teleporting around a city-sized mess of building debris. But now that I think about it, that's probably not indicative of the gameplay.

So far, Kingdom Hearts 3 is the only game in particular I would get a next-gen console for. Now it may be coming out even later than the next Legend of Zelda. The PS4 is not really proving its worth, and I doubt that will happen in this E3.

Given how things have gone for Square these past few years it's safe to say they are placing all their bets on these two games. If one or heaven forbid both end up flopping it could very well mean game over for the company. If that is the case I would be trying to hype the shit out of these games if I worked at Square. Even if you don't have a demo or a trailer to show at least give some info on the games' mechanics and/or story. Maybe a screenshot or two would help. But to not show anything at all? All that does is make us gamers worry about the state of the games which would likely turn some people away. That is something Square really doesn't want right now.

I'm not entirely surprised about KH3 not being at E3. From what I remember they weren't planning to announce it last year either which is why there was only a small alpha build trailer shown.

Yeah as much as I'd hoped otherwise, I pretty much knew this was going to be the case.
Still, it is disappointing that we won't get any more info anytime soon, but I guess this means there'll be less chance of being spoiled by a trailer or leak so there is that.

i was kind of hoping to see something of kingdom hearts just because of the possibility that there could be star wars stuff in it now

WTF!!! The last few main FFs they've made since 2001 have been utter shit or MMOs or a single player MMO styled semi-FF game. It'd be nice to know something new about FFXV, but it seems Square is either in over their heads with another graphically impressive snooze fest or they're rebuilding the whole game and still didn't have enough time to gather decent gameplay footage to through into a 3 minute trailer. It's like they are hoping a lot of fans irked by XIII and it's sequels still care about the Final Fantasy brand enough to wait patiently with no update on progress on a game that's theoretically been in development for the better part of a decade.

Makes you wonder what the hell they are going to show then. Some new IPs that they'll be working on instead of FFXV and KH3?

I actually just heard a theory that explains that KH3 will probably be coming out in 2018-2019, wherein it will have been 13 years since KH2 came out, in keeping with the "13" theme of the villains. Organization XIII, 13 Bearers of Darkness (as explained in KH3D), you get the picture. It would be incredibly frustrating to wait that long, but at the same time kind of awesome for the developers to show that kind of dedication to their own work. Wouldn't really be worth the wait, though.

RJ 17:
Makes you wonder what the hell they are going to show then. Some new IPs that they'll be working on instead of FFXV and KH3?

From my understanding, they are going to release news about the FF14: A Realm Reborn MMO. Supposedly new classes, level cap increase and the like. Outside of that...nothing that I am aware of.

For a second there, I was like, "Nooo!" And then I saw "at E3", and I was like, "Oh, OK."

I heard Nomura claim he released the KHIII teaser too early and doesn't plan to go into full development of the game until FFXV is completed...

And since FFXV will never be completed (lets not kid ourselves, how long has this been in development?) It looks like the Kingdom Hearts series will never get its much anticipated 3rd installment, but don't worry, there will be plenty of handheld spin-offs to tide you over.

TizzytheTormentor:
I heard Nomura claim he released the KHIII teaser too early and doesn't plan to go into full development of the game until FFXV is completed...

And since FFXV will never be completed (lets not kid ourselves, how long has this been in development?) It looks like the Kingdom Hearts series will never get its much anticipated 3rd installment, but don't worry, there will be plenty of handheld spin-offs to tide you over.

Wait, how can something tide me over if the thing I'm waiting for will never be released?

OT: Honestly, I've given up on ever seeing KH3. I want it, I'd even buy a PS4 for it, but I'm convinced that HL3 will be willed into existence by sheer internet nerd-rage before we'll ever see KH3.

shirkbot:

TizzytheTormentor:
I heard Nomura claim he released the KHIII teaser too early and doesn't plan to go into full development of the game until FFXV is completed...

And since FFXV will never be completed (lets not kid ourselves, how long has this been in development?) It looks like the Kingdom Hearts series will never get its much anticipated 3rd installment, but don't worry, there will be plenty of handheld spin-offs to tide you over.

Wait, how can something tide me over if the thing I'm waiting for will never be released?

I dunno, but Square seems to think it works.

PilgrimScott_III:
I actually just heard a theory that explains that KH3 will probably be coming out in 2018-2019, wherein it will have been 13 years since KH2 came out, in keeping with the "13" theme of the villains. Organization XIII, 13 Bearers of Darkness (as explained in KH3D), you get the picture. It would be incredibly frustrating to wait that long, but at the same time kind of awesome for the developers to show that kind of dedication to their own work. Wouldn't really be worth the wait, though.

That logic, while awesome as it is, made my child self cry a little...

OT: While I have the same amount of patience as... uh... Sora in a sleep chamber(?) as well as lacking any true interest in waiting for Final Fantasy XV... for the love of Moogles and Chocobos, Squeenix, release XV in 2016! Considering how Kingdom Hearts III is "in development" right now, it would give it a chance to probably get a 2017 release, at least... (or sooner, I guess, given the development team behind III...)

I'm trying not to constantly remind myself that I'm waiting for a game that won't come out until another game I lack interest in comes out first...

I can understand Kingdom Hearts 3 not making an appearance, given that Nomura even said they announced it too early. In fact, I got more than I hoped for with the little teaser they placed at the end of the 2.5 Remix trailer. That said, it's a fucking joke that we won't see anything of Final Fantasy XV. The game was announced in 2006, and 8 years later we've had 3 trailers, none of which are really representative of how the game is going to play.

Please, for fuck's sake, give us an in-depth looking at the battle system, the characters...ANYTHING!

I'm not to bothered about FF given their performance since 9 but KH3, i'm shaking in anticipation for this man. I don't have a next gen console and I won't until a game I actually want gets released on it, KH3 might be that game. Come on Square, I don't care if the story doesn't make sense, cut out those tedious QTE's and let me dream team up with Iron Man and Elsa!

Come on give the 2 guys working on this a break. I think they're probably just finished decomposing at this point after SqeEnix not feeding them for so long.

Unfortunately I think FFXV will take around 2 more years to be released. You do not simply change your engine and copy paste things and it is done. I am pretty sure they started from scratch.

It has taken already the reputation of Duke Nukem:Forever as its development cycle and I fear It will get the same reception. Lets say the gameplay is good, will it be for the old standards when they had the idea for the game? Or it will meet today's-futures standards?

I was hopping for this years E3 a release date announcement. So yeah 2 more years it is.

Square is quickly becoming like Valve. "We're working on it. No, you can't see it. No, we can't give you a release date. No, we don't have any news about it. But trust us, it's coming."
Well, at least their willing to talk about their franchises, even if it is to say that they have nothing to talk about or show. But I honestly don't understand why they keep doing this with two of the franchises that turned them into a big game company. People are going to start losing interest if this keeps up.

Sniper Team 4:
Square is quickly becoming like Valve. "We're working on it. No, you can't see it. No, we can't give you a release date. No, we don't have any news about it. But trust us, it's coming."
Well, at least their willing to talk about their franchises, even if it is to say that they have nothing to talk about or show. But I honestly don't understand why they keep doing this with two of the franchises that turned them into a big game company. People are going to start losing interest if this keeps up.

Tool late. ;_;
Kingdom Hearts is probably one of my favorite game series of all time and while I haven't personally finished any of the Final Fantasy games I still admire them for what they are. Well, for the most part anyway *cough* Final Fantasy XIII sequels *cough*. At this point though, I have honestly stopped caring about these games. I'm not sure who at Square Enix decided that constant delays and side projects were the way to go but it's taken it's toll. Don't get me wrong, I'll almost certainly play them when they come out, I'll probably even like them, but for now news like this doesn't really upset me or get me pumped. I just sigh and go on with my day.

Well, that and write comments apparently.

TWEWYFan:

Sniper Team 4:
Square is quickly becoming like Valve. "We're working on it. No, you can't see it. No, we can't give you a release date. No, we don't have any news about it. But trust us, it's coming."
Well, at least their willing to talk about their franchises, even if it is to say that they have nothing to talk about or show. But I honestly don't understand why they keep doing this with two of the franchises that turned them into a big game company. People are going to start losing interest if this keeps up.

Tool late. ;_;
Kingdom Hearts is probably one of my favorite game series of all time and while I haven't personally finished any of the Final Fantasy games I still admire them for what they are. Well, for the most part anyway *cough* Final Fantasy XIII sequels *cough*. At this point though, I have honestly stopped caring about these games. I'm not sure who at Square Enix decided that constant delays and side projects were the way to go but it's taken it's toll. Don't get me wrong, I'll almost certainly play them when they come out, I'll probably even like them, but for now news like this doesn't really upset me or get me pumped. I just sigh and go on with my day.

Well, that and write comments apparently.

Comments for the win baby!

I feel your pain. There was a time when, like you, I used to get pumped whenever Square flashed the Final Fantasy name, or Kingdom Hearts. But then they started throwing more and more Kingdom Hearts spin offs out until it pretty much killed my interest in the series. And Final Fantasy is going so long between releases now that I just sigh and go, "That's nice I guess." I haven't quite reached the level of apathy for them that I have with Valve, but I'm getting there.

Sniper Team 4:
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I agree with everything you and the person you quoted said. Square has completely burned through all of the goodwill I had for them. I remember being excited for their games and I genuinely miss that level of engagement, but they lost xenogears, abandoned chrono cross, and milked the crap out of both kingdom hearts and final fantasy until we all stopped caring while still not giving the US the international or final mix versions on the systems they were made for.

I think Kingdom Hearts is the biggest shame, as I would have killed to have KH3 in the last days of the PS2. All of the handheld spin-offs only cheapened the franchise and showed where their real priorities were (they completely missed out on a full generation by skipping a release for the PS3). Square hasn't actually done anything good in-house in almost a decade, so another year or so of waiting for them to try and get it right again is only going to hurt them. At this rate they are going to crash and get bought up by either EA, Activision, Sony, or Nintendo.

No, I'm not bitter because I won't be getting a console this generation and will have to miss out, and I totally almost forgave Square for all those International Editions that never saw a release in the US. Stop looking at me like that :P

I should have seen this coming, I really should have. It's gotten to the point where I'm actually surprised if they do show something of FFXV or KH3 at E3. Honestly, I'm not sure who at SE decided that releasing next to no information on these games for quite a while was a good thing but it's clear that they need a new PR guy.

Sniper Team 4:
Square is quickly becoming like Valve. "We're working on it. No, you can't see it. No, we can't give you a release date. No, we don't have any news about it. But trust us, it's coming."
Well, at least their willing to talk about their franchises, even if it is to say that they have nothing to talk about or show. But I honestly don't understand why they keep doing this with two of the franchises that turned them into a big game company. People are going to start losing interest if this keeps up.

Difference between Square and Valve is that Valve has always been that way. Getting Half Life 2 out the door took a hell of a long time too, but they were promising something revolutionary and actually delivered.

Square on the other hand used to have a steady release cycle, they could churn out Final Fantasy's every two years along with numerous other titles. More primitive technology made it simpler, but still. Seems like they got it in their head that like Valve they're next FF should be 'revolutionary'... except they failed utterly at it, and pretty much an entire console generation, the longest one ever, was deprived of the usual good to great selection of JRPG's.

Looking at their PS3/360 console JRPG releases from Square-Enix, we have... Star Ocean: The Last Hope, FFXIII and it's two spinoffs, Nier, and FFXIV. That's it?! I look at my collection of PS1 and PS2 JRPG's and it makes me want to cry.

You know, when I was in high school, I said I'd be 20 years old by the time KH3 came out... oh.

Frick,man. This is all my fault...

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I'm just hoping that FFXV is getting rebuilt after finally realizing that Motomu Toriyama was trying to run the franchise into the dirt. ... it's unlikely, I know, but I can dream.

BREAKING NEWS: SquareEnix PR Department Still Shit

Seriously Square, replace everyone who works in your PR and Legal departments. These are the same people who insist EVERY YEAR that people NOT take pictures of your booths at every event. How precisely do you expect word of mouth to get passed around if you crush every spark of interest at every turn?

 

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