US Military Wants Walls That Can Pop Out of Cans for Use on the Field

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US Military Wants Walls That Can Pop Out of Cans for Use on the Field

DARPA is looking for a BlockADE (Block Access to Deny Entry) barrier system that can fit in cans for military use.

The US Government's Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) is not only seeking help from gamers to test military software vulnerability, putting Special Forces personnel on "stealth" dirt bikes, but now is actively looking for proposals for a "BlockADE" (Block Access to Deny Entry) contraption that would automatically form a wall from material crammed into a canister measuring 1 ft. by 6.5 ft. or even smaller, for use on the field. Troops can then use these walls to not only create instant cover on the battlefield, but also for blocking off entrances, create a makeshift building and more, all with the touch of a button. DARPA's proposal also wants the device to slow down attackers with saws and axes, but is also aiming to include extra features such as "ballistic resistance." Bear in mind that such a system is far from being made into a working prototype or one that can be used on the field in real life. But if and when it does, expect troops to have instant cover whenever they need it, which should save lives.

In related news, the military is testing its own Iron Man suit and wants civilian help for components. If that didn't sound far-out enough, the US military also said that it's "confident" it can stop a real-life attack by Godzilla, which I'm not 100 percent confident that they can. I mean, have you seen Godzilla chew tanks and choppers like they were made of paper?

More and more, it seems sci-fi and video game tech is slowly becoming a reality for real-life use in the military. What tech do you think can feasibly made next and be of actual use?

Source: Engadget

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Alex Co:
BloackADE

OT: So, lemme get this straight... They want 'chest-high walls' in a can (or something similar, given the measurements). Do you pull a pin and watch it expand or unfold it? And...what can you expect to block with that? I'd love to see a bunch of soldiers get 'instant tortoise shell' configurationm, or hell make this end up like a DBZ Capsule Corp thing, but how's this one work? Science fiction becoming reality is awesome, but I hope they did some testing...

FalloutJack:

Alex Co:
BloackADE

OT: So, lemme get this straight... They want 'chest-high walls' in a can (or something similar, given the measurements). Do you pull a pin and watch it expand or unfold it? And...what can you expect to block with that? I'd love to see a bunch of soldiers get 'instant tortoise shell' configurationm, or hell make this end up like a DBZ Capsule Corp thing, but how's this one work? Science fiction becoming reality is awesome, but I hope they did some testing...

Thanks, man. Fixed it. =)

Well, it wouldn't truly be a realistic shooter without chest high walls....

This sounds like some ACME corporation invention. And they should have called it Can-o-Wall or something. BlockADE is just boring.

FalloutJack:

Alex Co:
BloackADE

OT: So, lemme get this straight... They want 'chest-high walls' in a can (or something similar, given the measurements). Do you pull a pin and watch it expand or unfold it? And...what can you expect to block with that? I'd love to see a bunch of soldiers get 'instant tortoise shell' configurationm, or hell make this end up like a DBZ Capsule Corp thing, but how's this one work? Science fiction becoming reality is awesome, but I hope they did some testing...

Maybe some kind of fast hardening foam or something.

Alex Co:
crammed into a canister measuring 1 ft. by 6.5 ft.

that's not exactly portable, in fact it's almost large enough that you could just use the can. Also I have to ask if the walls are bullet-proof, ie can they actually be used for cover.

Kungfu_Teddybear:
This sounds like some ACME corporation invention. And they should have called it Can-o-Wall or something. BlockADE is just boring.

Hey kids! Are you tired of your Nations relentless pursuit of overseas nationbuilding?
yeah...
Well hold on, because its...
It's wall-in-a-can!♬♬♬♬
YEAH!

♬what blows up quick♬
♬just lickity split♬
♬and stops rounds from some♬
♬terrorists AK,♬

its wall-in-a-can!

♬its wall, its wall,♬
♬it stops the bullets real good♬
♬its wall, its wall,♬
♬its better than bad, its GOOD!♬

Sounds like that gizmo breifly seen in the new CoD game trailer; two sticks with a black sheet stretched between them that stops bullets.

wants the device to slow down attackers with saws and axes

...maybe I'm wrong, but how often do people use saws and axes in the battlefield?!? I didn't even realize this was a thing...

nonetheless, until you make jackal shields from halo, don't color me impressed :-P

So, the American M.O.D thinks "we have guns that are good at range, guns that are good at close combat, guns that are good at being tough, guns that are good at being versatile and guns that can shoot round corners and everything in between. We have bullets for all occasions, explosives for all occasions. Tanks that are fast and tanks that are powerhouses. We have planes of all shapes and sizes that can fuck up things from a jet to small hamlet to nothing short of a country. We have missiles that could hit a fly's leg from across the globe. Helicopters that put the hel(l) in helicopter! ... But we still have oodles of cash coming our way! What the fuck could we spend it on?"

"... you seen them iron man films?"

"... you get a promotion!"

"... wall in a can?"

"... you get a promotion as well!"

How about diverting some money to helping your country men out, instead of spending it to fuck up another countries men? We get it, you have the biggest dick, nobody is going to fuck with you! Now, PLEASE focus on your own failings!

I bet if you diverted 90% of your war budget to health care, cancer, aids and about 50 other diseases would be gone in 10 years! You wouldn't have things like breaking bad happening (not the actual show, just the message behind it of families being left destitute due to a medical problem).

the us wants to invent mobile chest high walls?
suddenly shooters are becoming more realistic...or reality is becoming more like a game.

Well that leaves Call of Duty buggered, doesn't it.

chaser5000:

FalloutJack:

Alex Co:
BloackADE

OT: So, lemme get this straight... They want 'chest-high walls' in a can (or something similar, given the measurements). Do you pull a pin and watch it expand or unfold it? And...what can you expect to block with that? I'd love to see a bunch of soldiers get 'instant tortoise shell' configurationm, or hell make this end up like a DBZ Capsule Corp thing, but how's this one work? Science fiction becoming reality is awesome, but I hope they did some testing...

Maybe some kind of fast hardening foam or something.

That's what I was thinking, they've already got stuff like that that is used for insulating windows while building a house. It'd have to be more dense if they want it to stop bullets and people armed with axes and chainsaws, though.

Still I imagine some kind of "splatter grenade" that they throw out and it causes an explosion of this foam which almost instantly hardens to make a (more than likely) dome-shaped wall.

As for blocking doorways and such, just have it also available in a spray can.

FalloutJack:
OT: So, lemme get this straight... They want 'chest-high walls' in a can (or something similar, given the measurements).

Chest-high walls in a can I can get behind.

The stupid name they gave it? I think I need some brain bleach.

thiosk:

Kungfu_Teddybear:
This sounds like some ACME corporation invention. And they should have called it Can-o-Wall or something. BlockADE is just boring.

Hey kids! Are you tired of your Nations relentless pursuit of overseas nationbuilding?
yeah...
Well hold on, because its...
It's wall-in-a-can!♬♬♬♬
YEAH!

♬what blows up quick♬
♬just lickity split♬
♬and stops rounds from some♬
♬terrorists AK,♬

its wall-in-a-can!

♬its wall, its wall,♬
♬it stops the bullets real good♬
♬its wall, its wall,♬
♬its better than bad, its GOOD!♬

OT:Its going to take alot of testing and refining to make this even useable for chest high walls in a can

Cranyx:

Alex Co:
crammed into a canister measuring 1 ft. by 6.5 ft.

that's not exactly portable, in fact it's almost large enough that you could just use the can. Also I have to ask if the walls are bullet-proof, ie can they actually be used for cover.

I was wondering that myself. No material you can put in a can (at least with today's technology) is going to stop a round from a modern assault rifle- which means this isn't cover; it's concealment.

The Rogue Wolf:

Cranyx:

Alex Co:
crammed into a canister measuring 1 ft. by 6.5 ft.

that's not exactly portable, in fact it's almost large enough that you could just use the can. Also I have to ask if the walls are bullet-proof, ie can they actually be used for cover.

I was wondering that myself. No material you can put in a can (at least with today's technology) is going to stop a round from a modern assault rifle- which means this isn't cover; it's concealment.

Wait, didn't the article say they're doing it as an area denial system too? Like to slow down attackers trying to move through a building.

OT: Why am I reminded of some kind of 'Fix-a-Flat' in a barrel?

How I could see it work:
1) Fast-hardening foam (e.g. polyurethane foam or synthetic resins), either as a self-expanding or as a spray solution. You basically mix two liquids, they react (get quite hot in the process) and form a foam or a massive resin. If you feel fancy you can even mix in glass or even kevlar fibres to increase its protection (personal experience: PU + aramide/glass fibres is a bitch to cut or even chop). However, applying it by hand to more than a door or window (glue it shut, not build a wall) probably takes some time and I wouldn't really trust a self-exploding version to actually land where you want it.
There is also a Shadowrun item that basically does this.

2) Bouncy castle made of Kevlar. Basically an inflatible bulletproof vest or raft. You can even combine it with the foam solution from 1 to make it more resistant and prevent it from deflating, so it would share some similarities with run-on-flat tires. If the pressure is high enough, it'd also anchor itself into the walls, floor and ceiling of a corridor (maybe even add metal spikes at the borders). In the open you'd probably also need a way to anchor it to the ground (it'd still be heavy but not heavy enough to not fly into your face from a blast or something).

Their expected dimensions are rather large, though. Solution 1 would probably still need 1-2 l of liquid to reliably glue a door into its frame. Solution 2 could fit into a large backpack (think about the dimensions and weight of a heavy inflatible raft). I guess they are planning to transport them on those transport drones they are currently researching? In that case I'm not sure if they aren't actually thinking of something like a self-erecting and self-anchoring metal wall with Kevlar layered on top.

Overall I'm not really sure what they expect and want to spend. A lot of that material is pretty expensive and even the US ground troops seem to not get all of the best stuff.

The Rogue Wolf:

Cranyx:

Alex Co:
crammed into a canister measuring 1 ft. by 6.5 ft.

that's not exactly portable, in fact it's almost large enough that you could just use the can. Also I have to ask if the walls are bullet-proof, ie can they actually be used for cover.

I was wondering that myself. No material you can put in a can (at least with today's technology) is going to stop a round from a modern assault rifle- which means this isn't cover; it's concealment.

How the hell is it concealment? How many times would you have to lobotomise an enemy soldier before he can look at a wall that he could swear wasn't there a moment ago, and think 'eh, I'm sure THAT's nothing that should be investigated more closely'.

If they want mobile walls, why can't they just start working on producing tactical dreadnought armour? At least


looks a bit more impressive than 'wall in a can' possibly could.

Instant chest-high-walls in a can: just add water! *ding!*

Not a bad idea I suppose although I'd rather just use the money to give our soldiers some proper armor.

Off-topc, On-topic: This needs to pop up in more shooters as a mechanic. Instant cover, works like grenades. Would fit right in with stuff like Ratchet and Clank or even Borderlands.

and thus there were chest high walls to see for miles.. wonder what Yahtzee will say over this?

Alex Co:
Block Acces

Also, I got "can of pop" in my head, which made this article title ludicrously hard to read. xD

Anyways, sounds cool, but the size of the can they expect to use... yeesh.

Capsule Corp here we come. Next up, a jetbike that can fit in a sugar pill.

FalloutJack:
'chest-high walls' in a can (or something similar, given the measurements)

Given the measurements, it's only going to be chest-high if they either stack them on top of one another or if the US military conscripts Peter Dinklage to the infantry.

chaser5000:

Maybe some kind of fast hardening foam or something.

What, like this?

Interesting thought, but would it stop bullets?

Naqel:

Chest-high walls in a can I can get behind.

The stupid name they gave it? I think I need some brain bleach.

They don't pay 'em for nifty names, just effective usage. And...I hope it actually works.

Random berk:
Powersuit!

Yeah, bring the wall with you! That's the way!

omega 616:
How about diverting some money to helping your country men out, instead of spending it to fuck up another countries men? We get it, you have the biggest dick, nobody is going to fuck with you! Now, PLEASE focus on your own failings!

I bet if you diverted 90% of your war budget to health care, cancer, aids and about 50 other diseases would be gone in 10 years! You wouldn't have things like breaking bad happening (not the actual show, just the message behind it of families being left destitute due to a medical problem).

You'd better talk to your Congressional Representative. Even the military thinks it's got too much hardware. In all probability, the can-in-a-wall - provided it works at all - will be a simple, cheap device that can be churned out of a factory in carload lots. Congress may well refuse to fund it as it's not complicated enough to require many workers and thus would be a waste of pork barrel money. The point of much defense work is to get government money ladled into particular districts rather than actually create military strength. Remember back when soldiers in Iraq didn't have body armor? It's a similar thing.

FalloutJack:

chaser5000:

Maybe some kind of fast hardening foam or something.

What, like this?

Interesting thought, but would it stop bullets?

Something like that, and like RJ17 said they already use something like that for construction.

You guys seriously missed an opportunity to use this image:

image

Random berk:

The Rogue Wolf:

Cranyx:

that's not exactly portable, in fact it's almost large enough that you could just use the can. Also I have to ask if the walls are bullet-proof, ie can they actually be used for cover.

I was wondering that myself. No material you can put in a can (at least with today's technology) is going to stop a round from a modern assault rifle- which means this isn't cover; it's concealment.

How the hell is it concealment?

In military terms, "concealment" is anything that blocks you from direct view of the enemy, whether it's something solid like a thin wall or open like a row of bushes, but doesn't actually stop direct fire. It doesn't have to be camouflage, which is what you might be thinking of.

I'd like to know how anything you pop out of a can could conceivably assume a sort of "wall" shape on its own. Preferably thicker at the bottom than at the top as well, since without any sort of anchoring the first thing that would happen is your wall falls over.
Unless it's already in the correct shape, just rolled up - but if it's something that could roll up as easily as that, would it be thick enough to stop bullets?

Even if it's made of (or coated with) a material that reacts with air and expands/hardens, that means storing it under some sort of inert gas, probably in a pressurised container. Which isn't something you want to be getting shot when someone's carrying it.

And then there's the problem of it being light enough to carry, given that canister size is longer than most soldiers.

So ... basically we just take a tube that's ends come off with an extendable rod like a shower curtain, rolls upwards for X number of feet into a sort of net with thicker lines going through it that act as hollow tubes for a hardening foam to be shot through, possibly by a pressurized can on a delay trigger. Thought we already had this.

I would have to imagine that the interior of such a structure would have to be gummy in order to prevent blades from being useful.

This reminds me of the bubble in James Bond
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKqdgvsbfFQ&feature=kp
Funny possibilities with kevlar and such, maybe some hardening foam like above

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