The Sims 4 Won't Have Pools, Toddlers

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The Sims 4 Won't Have Pools, Toddlers

The Sims 4

Maxis says that it will be excluding toddlers and pools from The Sims 4 because "it's not possible" to include "every single feature" from previous games.

The Sims 4 could be the first game in the series where you can't drown your unwanted Sims in a ladder-less pool. That, at least, was the indication of a recent blog post on The Sims official website which revealed that the game won't be launching with pools or toddler aged Sims as gameplay options. According to the posting, these exclusions are merely a casualty of the development process.

"It's not possible for us to include every single feature and piece of content we added to The Sims 3 over the last five years," said the post. "We recognize that some of you will be disappointed that pools and toddlers won't be available when The Sims 4 Base Game launches in September, you should know that we're building an incredibly strong foundation that is capable of fulfilling every one of your desires in the years to come."

Predictably, this news has sparked an outrage among The Sims fanbase which has enjoyed toddlers since The Sims 2 and used pools as a method of Sim murder since the very first game. In turn, angered gamers have created a petition at Change.org to try and convince EA and Maxis to change their minds and make sure the base game includes these feature.

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Oh please, I don't even play the Sims but excluding pools? like really? that is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.

They have 3 game's and a billion expansion pack's worth of pool assets but they don't have the time to add them in?

Sounds more like "We are purposefully excluding these features, that everyone would expect because they've been in all the other games, which are also extremely easy to add-in and take almost no resources at all, so that we can release a $40 expansion pack 6 months after launch that will add pools and toddlers... we'll call it 'The Water-birth expansion pack'"

"It's not possible for us to include every single feature and piece of content we added to The Sims 3 over the last five years,"

I'm pretty sure in the age of digital downloads and patches, yes it is possible. I'm also fairly certain they've done so for the past few games.

Ah, and here I though EA had learn their lesson about "cash grabs", silly, silly me. No pools, please. Maybe one decade, EA will finally shut down and someone new can get hold of Sims and make it worth playing again. Then again, maybe one day the sun will appear to raise in the West.

Guess which one is more likely.

I can see it now: "Sims 5" will be nothing but a Character Creator that costs $59.99. The first expansion for the game will be "Sims 5 : Houses!" which will cost $39.99 and will include such features as "Build a home, like you could in every other Sims game, but give us more money for it!" and then they will come out with "Sims 5: Relationship Fun" for $49.99 and this one will read something like "Watch as your Sims interact with other Sim characters!".

See this is what happens when you let Maxis get away with stripping out content from each game and then revealing it later in expansion for huge prices. This wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the fact that people actually BUY THESE EXPANSION PACKS! I'm pretty sure the Sims fan base is only like one hundred thousand people but each person is willing to shill out 500+ dollars for every single game plus the expansions, which is content that was included in the full version of the last iteration of the game. I think the fans of the Sims are getting exactly what they deserve for letting Maxis get away with such a horrendous business model. The best part is that everyone signing that petition and complaining are going to end up buying "The Sims 4" on day one regardless of what happens.

So what I've learned these past few weeks is that women and pools are expensive game assets to make.

Of course it's possible. They just want to sell it as DLC.

Perhaps its a cunning social experiment? Going on the idea that Sims players are the most sadistic bunch imaginable, they're going to release pools and toddlers as DLC so they can say "People are paying us money so they can drown children!"

Hey guys, be fair. This is how the Sims has always worked!
The Sims 2 had most of the content that the Sims 3 has now, after a few years worth of overpriced addons.

Of course they want to cash in o DLC. But that is how this francise works and always has worked. If you are a sims-fan, then you are used to shill out hundred of dollars every few years for the priviledge of a slight graphics update.

Change.org. Ugh. Really?

That is NOT what that site is for. They're making a freakin' mockery of... Bah!

bullsh*t,
to buy sims 3 plus all dlc costs hundreds, during the steam sales to buy the game plus all dlc costs 164 so double that for normal price, i am sure they have enough money to add pools at the least...
oh but do not forget to buy the first of 2 dozen dlc packs coming out soon!..

Soon,

Pools DLC

i am sorry but stuff this noise , maxis is talking out of its EA (get it)

DLC DLC DLC DLC DLC DLC DLC DLC DLC DLC DLC DLC.

Coming soon: The Sims 4 Female DLC! Because there weren't enough resources to put them in the main game!

This is ridiculous. The series has lost all touch with reality now, they've been selling DLC packs for so long that the idea of 'doing a reasonable amount of work before release' has lost all meaning to them.

I mean swimming pools are one of the most basic things someone designing a dream house is going to want. At least toddlers take a lot of animating, but how weird is it going to be when you patch in a whole new stage of kids lives?

Hey, on the bright side you can get toddlers and pools later down the line for two easy payments of $60 DLC.

You know what is even more insane about how much of the content they plan to leave out and cash grab with DLC again? If you go to the Sims forums, you'd be surprised how many people there defend the "leave stuff out" approach. Saying, you can't have it all at once, its too much, you want to look forward to new things via DLC. As if they couldn't come up with more ideas. I am not sure if this is because the hardcore fans are hugely brainwashed by EA or if EA just posts in threads a lot.
Either way, I found it amusing.

That is PR speak for "You are buying all that shit extra suckers!", and if you have been playing Sims 3 for any length of time you already know this is how they do things.

Keep this in mind:

This was a cancelled freemium game that EA dug back up and called Sims 4. That's why the graphics are so fucked, and why it seems everything is locked.

and by fucked, I mean textures ripped from the sims 3 and compressed to the point they walked out of the PS1.

The Sims 3 will have nothing on the price gouging this game will do. This is an abomination that even Dr. Frankenstein wouldn't touch.

Sims 4 aka Pay to downgrade your game!

Here's hoping sim 4 runs smoother than 3

[Sarcastic-making-fun-of-EA-time

Other features that have sadly been scrapped due to time restraints:

- All hair except for 3 standard models
- All door types except that one that noone likes

Furthermore budgetary problems have resulted in pay-to-live fridge model inclusion: whenever your sim needs nourishment and uses the fridge, EA withdraws $0.50 from your bank account via the Sims 4: facebook app, which you have to register to if you want to play.

In order to combat piracy EA has decided to:

- Require a non-stop online connection
- Remove all funny clothes
- Remove toddlers because they might walk in on their sim-parents having sex and that's harmfull for their poor young minds.

Sarcastic-making-fun-of-EA-time/]

Having stayed clear of Sims 3 with all it's DLC and bull I was hoping Sims 4 might be an option. Jokes on me EA, good one. I'll just stick to Sims 2 then, because you'd have to be crazy to think I'm giving you anymore money based on this shit. You can't make all of the content from Sims 3, understandable, you want to at least try making SOME of it though?

StewShearer:
The Sims 4 could be the first game in the series where you can't drown your unwanted Sims in a ladder-less pool.

I'm going to be "that person" and mention that Sims 3 was actually the first game in the series where you can't drown your unwanted Sims in a ladder-less pool, since that was when they gave Sims the ability to exit a pool without using a ladder.

OT: Well, that sucks. I assume both features will be included in an expansion pack at some point. Nothing about the Sims 4 promotion has made it seem like much of a progression from Sims 3, so I think this'll be the first one I don't buy.

well, i expected them to do something LIKE this,but not to remove toddlers from the base game...pools yeah, i expected them to not arrive untill some summmer or holiday based ex-pack as they are a lugury but toddlers... o.0 you mean your sims start as chidren not babies when you have them?
we havent had that since the sims 1 days lol. and those days, children never grew up.

i expected them to slice out as much as possable from the base game, and to do the same with the expansions, as they now do with every pack ( remember when they were working on seasons, and showed the ice hotel set in a dev vid, and then took it out and sold it on the store? lol)

i didnt know that sims 4 was a cancled freemium tho lol, that explains a lot realy. explains the lack of actual tools to build, tools to create sims ect. if drag and move is the way to go, im sticking with sims 1, 2 and 3 lol

We won't be able to have these basic things is the base game but we'll be happy to charge you for them later

LOLLLLL.

Scrythe:
So what I've learned these past few weeks is that women and pools are expensive game assets to make.

Imagine what Team Ninja's budget for Dead or Alive: Extreme Beach Vollyeball was like!

The Sims 5 Won't Have Cars, Old People.
The Sims 6 Won't Have Trees, Non-Whites.
The Sims 7 Won't Have Rooves, Women.

After all, we can't put in every feature from the previous games. We can, however, sell them to you in $20 stuff packs. Because we're cunts.

So.. Simcity all over? Things gets ditched because it has to be "new"?
Poor Maxis... what have you become...

Don't buy that for a second. If it really is a resources issue, which I doubt, fucking wait a little while and finish your damn game. If you're just waiting to sell them in as DLC, realise what assholes you are and reconsider your business.

Ultratwinkie:
Keep this in mind:

This was a cancelled freemium game that EA dug back up and called Sims 4. That's why the graphics are so fucked, and why it seems everything is locked.

and by fucked, I mean textures ripped from the sims 3 and compressed to the point they walked out of the PS1.

The Sims 3 will have nothing on the price gouging this game will do. This is an abomination that even Dr. Frankenstein wouldn't touch.

Well that really puts things in perspective.

Doesn't the very idea of sequel kind of imply "game with more stuff in it"? Oh well, I'm sure with all the DLC that the Sims 4 is going to get that idea will still stick. You'll just have to fork out an extra 200 to get all the Pool, Toddler, Furniture and Katy Perry related content to bulk out what should be an already bulked out game...

It used to be that sequels added more to the game, not remove them. If Sims 4 base game does not have something that Sims 3 base game had it's not even issue of DLC, it a bloody downgrade!

DirgeNovak:
The Sims 5 Won't Have Cars, Old People.
The Sims 6 Won't Have Trees, Non-Whites.
The Sims 7 Won't Have Rooves, Women.

After all, we can't put in every feature from the previous games. We can, however, sell them to you in $20 stuff packs. Because we're cunts.

Still better than the Sims 8, that's just a box with the game engine for $80 (+$35 a month engine subscription fee) and all the expansions are basic functions like "Loading Screen Adventures", and that will be better than Sims 9 which is just a used piece of toilet paper in a box.

I could kind of see them leaving out swimming pools, if their intention is to make sure the pools will be more customizable then usual, hence meaning that to get any pool you'd have to fork out for the more customizable version to get any pool(spending money on just pool customization might be a hard sell, but if it's the only way to get a pool it might be an easier sell).

Removing toddlers on the other hand: No. I'm sorry EA, if you're about to make a life simulation it is not okay to throw away a life stage, that's a core feature.

Ultratwinkie:
Keep this in mind:

This was a cancelled freemium game that EA dug back up and called Sims 4. That's why the graphics are so fucked, and why it seems everything is locked.

This is the first I've heard of this. You've got a source?

This just brings up the question, why buy the sims 4 at all when the sims 3 is a better product? Granted there is a million expansion packs to buy but i am sure by now you can get some sort of deal for the lot of them (this is EA so i may be wrong on this).

EA needs to die. People need to stop giving them money so they can no longer afford to take beloved franchises and run them into the bloody ground.

Seriously, there's no excuse for a series' game mechanics to regress like this. Every game should be a strict upgrade over what came before.

So they're saving it for DLC?
Golly I'm really glad I don't enjoy this series.

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