Is a Zombie Apocalypse Possible? Morgan Freeman Knows

Is a Zombie Apocalypse Possible? Morgan Freeman Knows

Through the Wormhole takes a look at the zombie epidemic that will wipe us all out.

Somehow I suspect that few of the revelations in this trailer for Morgan Freeman's Through the Wormhole episode Is a Zombie Apocalypse Possible? will be any news to you, but it's still a kicker hearing Freeman's dulcet tones informing us all just how badly we're screwed. Yep, urban centers will tumble after a week or so; yep, fleeing refugees will spread the virus world-wide. Then what? Well then we fight back, says Freeman's tame mathematician. With a cricket bat, apparently, though personally I prefer the bile jar/Molotov cocktail option.

Through the Wormhole bills itself as a series that brings together "the brightest minds and best ideas from the very edges of science ... to reveal the extraordinary truth of our Universe." It's touched on everything from aliens to parallel universes so far, and Freeman's been aboard since the beginning.

"We wanted to merge our 'Rock Stars of Science' with the superstars of pop culture," says executive producer Bernadette Mcdaid. "It's not only about making science accessible but also making people think."

Is a Zombie Apocalypse Possible? is episode 10 of the current season. The full thing's 44 minutes long, and is currently available via Amazon for a couple bucks.

Source: Science Channel YouTube

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Oh god.

Don't do this Morgan Freeman.

Zombie apocalypses look cool because I didn't think there was ever a chance of it happening.

Don't tell me that it actually IS possible!

Eh, in Australia, we hold to the laws of thermodynamics, we don't allow perpetual machines like zombies around.

Keeps running around indefinitely without any source of fuel or energy? Yeah, not putting up with that.

*Looks at first sentence of title*

No. 100% impossible. The laws of warfare and logic make it impossible.

Did anyone actually watch the embedded video? That was so ridiculous it was almost a parody.

Also: 6-foot high walls and blokes with assault rifles behind them. There's a reason guns phased out swords a few centuries ago.

I didn't know Morgan was now working at loading ready run?

Eh, ill still take neil Degrasse Tyson's explanation.

http://www.zap2it.com/blogs/neil_degrasse_tyson_ruins_zombies_on_the_daily_show-2013-11

Human bodies require everything it relies on to be working. Zombies involve a walking corpse where nothing works but somehow the brain still kinda does but also doesn't.

So zombies can't stand, move, or be hungry. The brain would also be gone quickly making zombies short lived if the brain is slush. Ironically, zombies eating brains would destroy the one thing that makes them even viable. Beating people to death cripples the new zombie, so that is out too.

Ultratwinkie:
Eh, ill still take neil Degrasse Tyson's explanation.

http://www.zap2it.com/blogs/neil_degrasse_tyson_ruins_zombies_on_the_daily_show-2013-11

Human bodies require everything it relies on to be working. Zombies involve a walking corpse where nothing works but somehow the brain still kinda does but also doesn't.

So zombies can't stand, move, or be hungry. The brain would also be gone quickly making zombies short lived if the brain is slush. Ironically, zombies eating brains would destroy the one thing that makes them even viable. Beating people to death cripples the new zombie, so that is out too.

Added to the fact that if no-one is manning the nuclear power stations, they would all go..... nuclear.

Ultratwinkie:
Eh, ill still take neil Degrasse Tyson's explanation.

http://www.zap2it.com/blogs/neil_degrasse_tyson_ruins_zombies_on_the_daily_show-2013-11

Human bodies require everything it relies on to be working. Zombies involve a walking corpse where nothing works but somehow the brain still kinda does but also doesn't.

So zombies can't stand, move, or be hungry. The brain would also be gone quickly making zombies short lived if the brain is slush. Ironically, zombies eating brains would destroy the one thing that makes them even viable. Beating people to death cripples the new zombie, so that is out too.

On top of that, even if the virus somehow kept the brain alive and the body moving, it would only take a matter of days/weeks for the body to become a useless pile of rotted slime. The elements are extremely harsh. Standing in the sun, or walking through the winter reeks havoc on the body. Humidity can cause fungus to grow, and de-comp to accelerate. And too little humidity will cause the body to dry and become brittle.

With the body having no care given to it, but constant stress put on it, it would take very little time for it to breakdown into it sludge. The only reason living creatures are as resistant as we are is simply because we heal, produce new cells, and avoid taking a consistent injuries. Simply put, you can probably survive the zombie apocalypse by sitting in your closet, eating canned vegetable for a month, waiting for the whole thing to sort itself out.

Eiv:

Ultratwinkie:
Eh, ill still take neil Degrasse Tyson's explanation.

http://www.zap2it.com/blogs/neil_degrasse_tyson_ruins_zombies_on_the_daily_show-2013-11

Human bodies require everything it relies on to be working. Zombies involve a walking corpse where nothing works but somehow the brain still kinda does but also doesn't.

So zombies can't stand, move, or be hungry. The brain would also be gone quickly making zombies short lived if the brain is slush. Ironically, zombies eating brains would destroy the one thing that makes them even viable. Beating people to death cripples the new zombie, so that is out too.

Added to the fact that if no-one is manning the nuclear power stations, they would all go..... nuclear.

Only old ones from the Generation II reactors. Generation IIIs have the ability to shut down automatically when it detects something ain't right. After humans covered that.

The only ones that would go nuclear would be the old early cold war ones that never got updated and the ones that people were too scared to update.

Ultratwinkie:

Eiv:

Ultratwinkie:
Eh, ill still take neil Degrasse Tyson's explanation.

http://www.zap2it.com/blogs/neil_degrasse_tyson_ruins_zombies_on_the_daily_show-2013-11

Human bodies require everything it relies on to be working. Zombies involve a walking corpse where nothing works but somehow the brain still kinda does but also doesn't.

So zombies can't stand, move, or be hungry. The brain would also be gone quickly making zombies short lived if the brain is slush. Ironically, zombies eating brains would destroy the one thing that makes them even viable. Beating people to death cripples the new zombie, so that is out too.

Added to the fact that if no-one is manning the nuclear power stations, they would all go..... nuclear.

Only old ones from the Generation II reactors. Generation IIIs have the ability to shut down automatically when it detects something ain't right. After humans covered that.

The only ones that would go nuclear would be the old early cold war ones that never got updated and the ones that people were too scared to update.

Good to know.

If an infection like this could spread through the air, you're fucked regardless. If it isn't, and is spread through a bight, that shit would be quarantined so fast.

dumbseizure:
Oh god.

Don't do this Morgan Freeman.

Zombie apocalypses look cool because I didn't think there was ever a chance of it happening.

Don't tell me that it actually IS possible!

It's too late; Morgan Freeman has spoken, and his will shall be done.

A Zombie apocalypse would actually be very short lived.

Zombies would at best last a week before collapsing. Reason... well, they're rotting flesh, and as they rot, they fall appart. Even disregarding rot. Moving around and stuff actually puts a lot of wear and tear on the body., not even counting any damage the received in the actual zombification process, the zombies aren't regenerating. You shoot a zombie in the leg now and the bullet hole will still be there in a week. See without the natural processes that continually repair and rebuild damaged joint and muscle tissue (not to mention skin).. the zombies would quickly break down.

Then there's predation... I mean, does anyone find it strange that zombie apocalypses happen ins strange alternate universes that don't have flies?

Lest you overlook the humble fly, they are the biggest and most capable corpse disposal on hand... Give flies a week and an exposed corps and there won't be much left.. especially if the clime is warm. In cold climes.. well.. those low tempretures will more or less cause the brakdowns to happen faster. Oh and bonus good news. Fast zZombies would break down fastr than slow lurching zombies.

Secondly .. humans are their food source...

Let's pelease consider. List ever animal that occasionally predates humans. Then go take a look at the endangered or extinct species list... you might notice a significant overlap between your list and the other two. This is not an accident. We have made a survival strategy of basically murdering any other animal that considers us food. If the world was Gotham CIty.. we'd be the Joker, the one everyone is afraid of or at least nervous about. Everyone who's smart. Those that aren't. Are dead.

if you're interested in the premise...read (read...but dont watch :p) World War Z by Max Brooks author of The Zombie Survival Guide.

kouriichi:

Ultratwinkie:
Eh, ill still take neil Degrasse Tyson's explanation.

http://www.zap2it.com/blogs/neil_degrasse_tyson_ruins_zombies_on_the_daily_show-2013-11

Human bodies require everything it relies on to be working. Zombies involve a walking corpse where nothing works but somehow the brain still kinda does but also doesn't.

So zombies can't stand, move, or be hungry. The brain would also be gone quickly making zombies short lived if the brain is slush. Ironically, zombies eating brains would destroy the one thing that makes them even viable. Beating people to death cripples the new zombie, so that is out too.

On top of that, even if the virus somehow kept the brain alive and the body moving, it would only take a matter of days/weeks for the body to become a useless pile of rotted slime. The elements are extremely harsh. Standing in the sun, or walking through the winter reeks havoc on the body. Humidity can cause fungus to grow, and de-comp to accelerate. And too little humidity will cause the body to dry and become brittle.

With the body having no care given to it, but constant stress put on it, it would take very little time for it to breakdown into it sludge. The only reason living creatures are as resistant as we are is simply because we heal, produce new cells, and avoid taking a consistent injuries. Simply put, you can probably survive the zombie apocalypse by sitting in your closet, eating canned vegetable for a month, waiting for the whole thing to sort itself out.

And then there's bacteria, fungi(as you pointed out) and insects. All those little, lovely things that real love rotten meat. The flies will have a field day. Then there's the vastness of the country. If 90% of the population of the US were infected and you lived in the country, you could still live happy without meeting a zombie coz it's so big.

My main grip with zombie movies is the immortality of zombies. We have dead, rotting walking corpses that seem to have stopped rotting or falling apart so they can walk about for days/weeks/months/years. That is just stupid.

Glad to know this forum has a sense of science. If you try to argue with zombie cultists(you know, the people who seem to WANT the zombie apocalypse to happen)that the zombie apocalypse will not happen, they will skirt every fact of science to prove that it will. Most I've argued with just say that new viruses pop up all the time, as though that fact proves a virus that bends all the rules of biology will suddenly appear.

I'd be more worried about an actual virus like a bird flu/measles hybrid or something coming killing off 10% of humanity.

Err it doesn't take a brainer to know that a real life zombie epidemic would go very badly for us living people and how to deal with them.

Nope. Totally impossible.

Even if it were, do you know what will stop it?

The heat.

The cold.

The moisture in the air.

Bacteria.

Insects.

Predatory and scavenging animals.

Tanks.

Helicopter gunships.

Close your doors and windows, shut off the lights and marathon a good RPG and they'll all have been destroyed by the sun and ants within 3 or 4 days.

Well... if the plague's airborne, of COURSE it becomes nigh-unstoppable. But with an airborne necrotic pandemic, you don't even need shambling rage monkeys. For zombies to even be needed in the equation, the disease would need to be contact-transmissible. The thought experiment breaks here.

Ultratwinkie:
Eh, ill still take neil Degrasse Tyson's explanation.

http://www.zap2it.com/blogs/neil_degrasse_tyson_ruins_zombies_on_the_daily_show-2013-11

Human bodies require everything it relies on to be working. Zombies involve a walking corpse where nothing works but somehow the brain still kinda does but also doesn't.

So zombies can't stand, move, or be hungry. The brain would also be gone quickly making zombies short lived if the brain is slush. Ironically, zombies eating brains would destroy the one thing that makes them even viable. Beating people to death cripples the new zombie, so that is out too.

Just for the sake of discussion, let's say we're dealing with ghouls, not zombies. Living mindless cannibals who look like shit not because they're rotting but because they don't tend their wounds due to the mindless part. They are basically feral humans riddled with disease. What do you say about the plausibility of this?

Not to worry! I'm sure after years of training on countless situational simulators such as Dead Island, Left for Dead, Resident Evil, The Last of Us, Typing of the Dead, etc... and with our ability of neutralizing uncountable numbers of simulated undead threats, I and my fellow gamers will be to save the world when the unthinkable actually happens!

Plus, the Pentagon has a plan, so we're all good: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2014/05/13/exclusive_the_pentagon_has_a_plan_to_stop_the_zombie_apocalypse

Nieroshai:

Ultratwinkie:
Eh, ill still take neil Degrasse Tyson's explanation.

http://www.zap2it.com/blogs/neil_degrasse_tyson_ruins_zombies_on_the_daily_show-2013-11

Human bodies require everything it relies on to be working. Zombies involve a walking corpse where nothing works but somehow the brain still kinda does but also doesn't.

So zombies can't stand, move, or be hungry. The brain would also be gone quickly making zombies short lived if the brain is slush. Ironically, zombies eating brains would destroy the one thing that makes them even viable. Beating people to death cripples the new zombie, so that is out too.

Just for the sake of discussion, let's say we're dealing with ghouls, not zombies. Living mindless cannibals who look like shit not because they're rotting but because they don't tend their wounds due to the mindless part. They are basically feral humans riddled with disease. What do you say about the plausibility of this?

A cannibal that looks like shit and is feral? Possible, but it would require a child to have been separated and live live long enough to turn into that. At an age critical where they learn language, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feral_child

It ain't all that common.

Anything is possible, but possible and probable are two differing things.

Ultratwinkie:

Nieroshai:

Ultratwinkie:
Eh, ill still take neil Degrasse Tyson's explanation.

http://www.zap2it.com/blogs/neil_degrasse_tyson_ruins_zombies_on_the_daily_show-2013-11

Human bodies require everything it relies on to be working. Zombies involve a walking corpse where nothing works but somehow the brain still kinda does but also doesn't.

So zombies can't stand, move, or be hungry. The brain would also be gone quickly making zombies short lived if the brain is slush. Ironically, zombies eating brains would destroy the one thing that makes them even viable. Beating people to death cripples the new zombie, so that is out too.

Just for the sake of discussion, let's say we're dealing with ghouls, not zombies. Living mindless cannibals who look like shit not because they're rotting but because they don't tend their wounds due to the mindless part. They are basically feral humans riddled with disease. What do you say about the plausibility of this?

A cannibal that looks like shit and is feral? Possible, but it would require a child to have been separated and live live long enough to turn into that. At an age critical where they learn language, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feral_child

It ain't all that common.

I guess I have to clarify. A plague that turns people feral, like a super-rabies that catches faster than it kills the host.

Maybe if they clarified that the virus was air-borne AND that the only survivors would be like 100 thousand or so people that were genetically immune to it, it would've been more interesting. But no, this was a stupid thing for them to talk about regardless.

there are many way a zombie ifestation can get out of hand. and no. the military would not overrun them. why? because the military is still sadly human and not robot, and thus has flaws called human emotion.

Ultratwinkie:
Eh, ill still take neil Degrasse Tyson's explanation.

http://www.zap2it.com/blogs/neil_degrasse_tyson_ruins_zombies_on_the_daily_show-2013-11

Human bodies require everything it relies on to be working. Zombies involve a walking corpse where nothing works but somehow the brain still kinda does but also doesn't.

So zombies can't stand, move, or be hungry. The brain would also be gone quickly making zombies short lived if the brain is slush. Ironically, zombies eating brains would destroy the one thing that makes them even viable. Beating people to death cripples the new zombie, so that is out too.

Classical zombie - yes. Virus that spreas via air and keeps human alive just agressive to the point of attacking others - nope.
Also as far as zombies biting potential zombies, youd be amazed how much damage human body can go through and still walk or run to attack others. especially if pain receptors are off

Eiv:
Added to the fact that if no-one is manning the nuclear power stations, they would all go..... nuclear.

completely wrong. had this debate with actual nuclear engineers. thats not actually even theoretically possible nowadays. Scenarios of what would happen from best to worse:
Automatic shut down.
energency shutdown when automatic shutdown fails
Emergency cooling when shutdown fails, drowning the reactor in cooling liquid.
all emergencies fail and the reactor dome mellts on itself, sealing the reactor for thousands of years withouty leaking any radiation.

Nuclear plants are built in a way as to never ever be able to replicate chernobyl, evne in worst case scenario of intentional human interference due to different fuel used. the most damage would actually come from hydrostations, as those would not open when needed eventually and dams would break flooding entire cities. nuclear power on the other hand is safest power we have on earth. we made sure of that after chernobyl.

Ultratwinkie:

Only old ones from the Generation II reactors. Generation IIIs have the ability to shut down automatically when it detects something ain't right. After humans covered that.

The only ones that would go nuclear would be the old early cold war ones that never got updated and the ones that people were too scared to update.

thing is, the last Generation II reactor is being shut down as we speak (takes years to fully shut down so yeah). even though it was updated and even safer than most nuclear plants on europe, but EU was afraid we would make nuclear warheads since this reactor used same fuel as is used in nuclear warhead creation. I am of course talking about Ignalina power plant.

Nieroshai:
Well... if the plague's airborne, of COURSE it becomes nigh-unstoppable. But with an airborne necrotic pandemic, you don't even need shambling rage monkeys. For zombies to even be needed in the equation, the disease would need to be contact-transmissible. The thought experiment breaks here.

i see zombies as a delivery vehicles rather than trasmitters here. you need a zmobie to come to your town to give you the airborn disease, does not matter if it gets to bite anyone or not by then your all infected. most airborne diseases cant fly across the globe on wind, they dont last that long. you need somone infected rtelatively close and thats where zombies come in - they are hosts that can carry it across long distances.

dumbseizure:
Oh god.

Don't do this Morgan Freeman.

Zombie apocalypses look cool because I didn't think there was ever a chance of it happening.

Don't tell me that it actually IS possible!

Well actually there are diseases that actually causes effect the behavior of its host. For example there is a fungus that attaches to ants, it takes over the body and causes to attempt to get eaten by making it climb an object to expose itself to be eaten. Rabies causes aggressive behaviors in animals like dogs and cats to actually turn against their owners. So if any of those stuff actually migrate to humans, it might be possible to have a zombie.... eerrrr ghoul like outbreak.

 

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