Fox & Friends Swipes BioShock Infinite Logo in a Move Levine Calls 'Irony'

 Pages 1 2 NEXT
 

Fox & Friends Swipes BioShock Infinite Logo in a Move Levine Calls 'Irony'

Let's Defend the Homeland, cries Fox.

Fox & Friends, in a piece on Governor Rick Perry's response to President Obama's statement on immigration, apparently swiped BioShock Infinite's logo to make its point. Ken Levine tweets that he thinks it's irony, not breach of copyright, which begs the question: does this mean that someone over at Fox has actually played the game through to the end?

The full video can be found over here, if you're feeling keen. Perhaps Governor Perry ought to grow a beard. It might lend him gravitas, but in any case the immigration argument is straight out of Infinite, albeit with Fox's special twist.

"If the President of the United States is really serious about securing the border, we can show him how to do that," Governor Perry moans, "But I haven't even had a phone call from this President."

This isn't the first time a conservative organization has used BioShock's imagery for its own ends. Back in late 2013 a Florida branch of the Tea Party put up BioShock's Guard Against The Foreign Hordes image on its Facebook page, though it's not entirely clear that the group knew what the game was about when it boosted the image.

Ken Levine isn't too worried about it. As he posts on Facebook, he's "glad to help," though that might have been intended ironically.

Source: VG24/7

Permalink

To give Fox News credit, at least it wasn't Bengazi they based their title card on.

Heh, sounds like Fox has competent people behind the scenes. That's far more than I would have given them credit for. If done on purpose, this means that someone behind the scenes is quite brilliant despite anything coming out of other people's mouths.

Diablo1099:
To give Fox News credit, at least it wasn't Bengazi they based their title card on.

Give it time, I'm sure they'll add it in. XD

OT: Reminds me of the time a little after BioShock Infinite came out in which some people in the Tea Party were usings the propoganda Comstick had around Columbia as actually posters for their rallies. The irony in this is just as strong as that one.

I am sorry, but the OP has lost their mind if they dont think conservatives can also be gamers. Being a gamer does NOT mean you are necessarily a liberal, left winger. Maybe he didnt mean it to come off that way, but jeez...

As if we needed more evidence that Fox morons are racists.

Riff Moonraker:
I am sorry, but the OP has lost their mind if they dont think conservatives can also be gamers. Being a gamer does NOT mean you are necessarily a liberal, left winger. Maybe he didnt mean it to come off that way, but jeez...

I think you're reading too much into that. He was speculating whether or not whomever chose the image was aware of the ideas put forward in the game i.e. that they were taking an image from a game that openly satirizes the extreme political right. From where I sit, he was not saying people on the right don't play games.

Ya know, Fox...lemme level with ya.
We already know how out of touch with the rest of the world - with reality, if I may - you are.
You do not CONSTANTLY have to go and prove it to us.
We already know.

Riff Moonraker:
I am sorry, but the OP has lost their mind if they dont think conservatives can also be gamers. Being a gamer does NOT mean you are necessarily a liberal, left winger. Maybe he didnt mean it to come off that way, but jeez...

This post is an example of how political bias not only works is but is incredibly stupid.

"The party I support did something stupid and moronic, in this case relating to video games, so a video game website posts a half mocking piece about it: LIBERAL BIAS!"

And it goes for the Liberals too, they do it just as much.

If your party does something as moronic as this, it's your job to hold them to account for it, I mean these people are the public face of your political opinion and if they are being mocked, they are being mocked because they did or said something stupid and deserve it.

Considering Fox's body of work, I'm pretty sure they didn't do it ironically. Either that, or they've become the penultimate Poe.

Rellik San:

And it goes for the Liberals too, they do it just as much.

[citation needed]

Zachary Amaranth:

Rellik San:

And it goes for the Liberals too, they do it just as much.

[citation needed]

Claim political bias when one of their politicians does something stupid and is called out on it by the media?

Everyone does it, hell I stand left of centre politically and even I'm guilty of it.

Rellik San:

Everyone does it.

Then it should be incredibly easy to prove.

Zachary Amaranth:
Considering Fox's body of work, I'm pretty sure they didn't do it ironically. Either that, or they've become the penultimate Poe.

I have heard that some people behind the scenes, as well as two of the hosts, are basically being sell-outs, but still oftentimes sabotage the conversations or programs with minor things here and there.

MarsAtlas:

Zachary Amaranth:
Considering Fox's body of work, I'm pretty sure they didn't do it ironically. Either that, or they've become the penultimate Poe.

I have heard that some people behind the scenes, as well as two of the hosts, are basically being sell-outs, but still oftentimes sabotage the conversations or programs with minor things here and there.

I gotta admit, that would be kind of awesome.

Zachary Amaranth:

Rellik San:

Everyone does it.

Then it should be incredibly easy to prove.

https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/bbc-news-stop-this-media-blackout-of-the-green-party

Studies have shown the BBC is a slightly left leaning but mostly partisan organisation:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/10235967/BBC-is-biased-toward-the-left-study-finds.html

That reminds me: How is that Libertarian ocean nation project coming along, by the way?

[Stewie Griffin in increasingly high pitched voice]Got some funding already? A group of capable people together? Doing some scouting for equipment? Some luxury ships maybe? Got yourself a mission statement? Some legal groundwork? A plan B? A concrete timeline?[/Stewie Griffin]

Zachary Amaranth:

MarsAtlas:

Zachary Amaranth:
Considering Fox's body of work, I'm pretty sure they didn't do it ironically. Either that, or they've become the penultimate Poe.

I have heard that some people behind the scenes, as well as two of the hosts, are basically being sell-outs, but still oftentimes sabotage the conversations or programs with minor things here and there.

I gotta admit, that would be kind of awesome.

There is one show host that has been suspected for a long time of being an atheist, and a few people have actually said so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCgOkVn_G9Q

There's also the host that is highly suspected of being gay, and another one that is suspected of being a lesbian (though she might not have her program anymore). Its mostly behind-the-scenes shenanigans from what I hear.

I'm no expert, but I think that flag is upside down.

Cousin_IT:
I'm no expert, but I think that flag is upside down.

Huh. So it is.

Isn't displaying an upside down flag supposed to be like a lynch-worthy mortal sin for yanks?

Zhukov:

Cousin_IT:
I'm no expert, but I think that flag is upside down.

Huh. So it is.

Isn't displaying an upside down flag supposed to be like a lynch-worthy mortal sin for yanks?

It's supposed to be a sign of distress.

Fox happily beats on games for stupid reasons yet uses images when it suits them. Bunch of idiots. Wouldnt be surprised if Fox releases a news clip complaining at their use of Infinite logo promote anti immigration feelings. DAMN VIDEO GAMES!!!!

The world just can't stop giving Fox News more rope. Enough is never enough. But it's like a bad zombie film. No matter how many times they hang themselves, they keep coming back for an encore.

Oh god I can't wait to start playing Infinite, I downloaded it but I'm specifically waiting for the 4th to start playing. As for this... Well after the tea party use of propaganda that was SUPPOSED to be Parody of mass American Xenophobia this doesn't seem that bad.

Is it bad that the first thing that stuck out to me was how slapped-together that logo looks? Like, the bevels on the "DEFENDING" don't line up right, like they had done a cut-and-paste job on something else (some other parody?) and the word "HOMELAND" looks like they used too wide a font for the field it's been placed in.

The racist knuckle-dragers that Faux News appeals to are a dying minority. The far right is lashing out harder than ever because its their desperate last stand. They realize, at least intuitively, that they're not the future. And Faux News is happily joining them in obsolescence.

That last part is fine by me. Let that cesspool posing as a news organization go down with the ship.

Karloff:
Ken Levine isn't too worried about it. As he posts on Facebook, he's "glad to help," though that might have been intended ironically.

Gee, you think?

I'm convinced that he meant "glad to help" them hang themselves.

gridsleep:
The world just can't stop giving Fox News more rope. Enough is never enough. But it's like a bad zombie film. No matter how many times they hang themselves, they keep coming back for an encore.

Oh, okay. Glad to help them hang themselves, yet again.

Nitpicker.

In all seriousness, I wouldn't be surprised if Faux News was entirely aware of the intended meaning of the symbol they appropriated. The far right has had quite the persecution complex lately, so it doesn't strike me as crazy (or it at least strikes me as the less crazy part) that they'd take an icon meant to condemn them and defiantly wear it as a badge of honor.

No, no, no. I mean it. Think about it. If gun-nuts carrying military-grade (or at least military looking) weapons into restaurants can convince themselves that they're freedom-fighting martyrs, then what is so shocking about Faux News equating themselves with Columbia like its a good thing? This is not a new low. This is just the latest self-inflicted indignity of narcissists who mistake their persecution complex for integrity.

But if this is looking too deep into the abyss for your comfort, then by all means just leave it at "Stupid is as stupid does." Mental illness is not for the feint of heart, so nobody will think less of you for it.

Riff Moonraker:
I am sorry, but the OP has lost their mind if they dont think conservatives can also be gamers. Being a gamer does NOT mean you are necessarily a liberal, left winger. Maybe he didnt mean it to come off that way, but jeez...

The irony comes from this being a panic peace about defending against immigrants, a theme Bioshock Infinite is a very harsh satire and deconstruction of. The dangers of unbridled patriotism, wrapping religion up in a flag, xenophobia and the emptiness of the founding myths of a nation are the central themes of Columbia. Themes that run directly counter to the editorial line of Fox News and especially a piece called "Defending the Homeland"

It would be like an antisemitic origination using artwork from the graphic novel Mouse.

So, let's get this straight. An icon deliberately created to be reminiscent of pre-existing far-right American imagery, turns out to be, surprise surprise, vaguely reminiscent of a right-wing American image?

Can we please stop calling something with a few vague similarities "copying"? A lot of lawsuits are based on such fuzzy pseudo-resemblances.

Honestly, the worse irony here is that they put it alongside a picture of the Statue of Liberty. That's not just pop culture ignorance, that's blatantly ignoring historical symbolism. Tip: go read the damn plaque on the statue, geniuses. "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free." Not exactly an indictment of lax immigration laws.

Pyrian:
So, let's get this straight. An icon deliberately created to be reminiscent of pre-existing far-right American imagery, turns out to be, surprise surprise, vaguely reminiscent of a right-wing American image?

Can we please stop calling something with a few vague similarities "copying"? A lot of lawsuits are based on such fuzzy pseudo-resemblances.

Dude... the thing was directly traced. It even has the same texturing. The only thing changed is the lettering and the upside-down flag instead of the torn one.

JarinArenos:
Dude... the thing was directly traced. It even has the same texturing. The only thing changed is the lettering and the upside-down flag instead of the torn one.

False, false, and false. The similarities are the shield shapes and positioning, color choices, and motifs, and the latter two are little more than just the standard patriotic motif, anyway - which BS:I copied, not vice-versa. The background texture is almost completely different, the font is different (inverted), the edging of both shields is different, the stars and number of stars are different, really the only notable similarity is the basic shape.

Pyrian:

JarinArenos:
Dude... the thing was directly traced. It even has the same texturing. The only thing changed is the lettering and the upside-down flag instead of the torn one.

False, false, and false. The similarities are the shield shapes and positioning, color choices, and motifs, and the latter two are little more than just the standard patriotic motif, anyway - which BS:I copied, not vice-versa. The background texture is almost completely different, the font is different (inverted), the edging of both shields is different, the stars and number of stars are different, really the only notable similarity is the basic shape.

Best image I've seen of the Fox logo so far. If you have a better one, please share.
image
(comparison image from Gamespot) Let's see now.
-Shape is the most obvious, and from this angle, you can see that it's not just style that's being copied, but exact proportions. The shapes are identical. Please note that in the Fox logo, the point at the bottom of the small shield is obscured by the water graphic.
-The outer 6 stars are in almost exactly the same position, adding only the two around the weirdly-positioned "the" in the middle.
-Text, same red-with-gold-border. Different font, but considering that they're just using Impact font, I chalk that up to laziness.
-Background, the resolution makes comparison a bit difficult, but turn the blue edging brown, and it would be almost identical.

All in all, this is far beyond stylistic similarities. I'm honestly shocked to see anyone even bothering to genuinely argue it. Hell, the only notable difference is the texturing of the border, which is smooth instead of woven. Almost like this image here...

image

Rellik San:

Riff Moonraker:
I am sorry, but the OP has lost their mind if they dont think conservatives can also be gamers. Being a gamer does NOT mean you are necessarily a liberal, left winger. Maybe he didnt mean it to come off that way, but jeez...

This post is an example of how political bias not only works is but is incredibly stupid.

"The party I support did something stupid and moronic, in this case relating to video games, so a video game website posts a half mocking piece about it: LIBERAL BIAS!"

And it goes for the Liberals too, they do it just as much.

If your party does something as moronic as this, it's your job to hold them to account for it, I mean these people are the public face of your political opinion and if they are being mocked, they are being mocked because they did or said something stupid and deserve it.

Trust me, I have plenty I get angry with on the republican side of the fence, as well. But conservatives arent a party, we just generally side with republicans more often than your further left democrats. Blue dog dems get more conservative support than you might realize, as well.

And you are quite right... political bias is in full swing here, and it is incredibly stupid. Look at how alot of people view conservatives these days... and they generally get it completely wrong.

Scrumpmonkey:

Riff Moonraker:
I am sorry, but the OP has lost their mind if they dont think conservatives can also be gamers. Being a gamer does NOT mean you are necessarily a liberal, left winger. Maybe he didnt mean it to come off that way, but jeez...

The irony comes from this being a panic peace about defending against immigrants, a theme Bioshock Infinite is a very harsh satire and deconstruction of. The dangers of unbridled patriotism, wrapping religion up in a flag, xenophobia and the emptiness of the founding myths of a nation are the central themes of Columbia. Themes that run directly counter to the editorial line of Fox News and especially a piece called "Defending the Homeland"

It would be like an antisemitic origination using artwork from the graphic novel Mouse.

I am thinking you mean Maus, but I get your point, and dont disagree with that, either. Trust me, they do some ROYALLY stupid stuff at Fox, too... just much less than MSNBC or CNN. My comment was more directed not at the actual subject, or Ken Levines comments, but the posters comments that seemed to insinuate conservatives dont game.

Zachary Amaranth:
Considering Fox's body of work, I'm pretty sure they didn't do it ironically. Either that, or they've become the penultimate Poe.

Rellik San:

And it goes for the Liberals too, they do it just as much.

[citation needed]

Go and watch some Young Turks...

So people are spewing invective at a corporate-owned profit-driven media outlet populated by mindless talking heads as opposed to all the other corporate-owned profit-driven media outlets populated by mindless talking heads.

Makes sense.

 Pages 1 2 NEXT

Reply to Thread

Log in or Register to Comment
Have an account? Login below:
With Facebook:Login With Facebook
or
Username:  
Password:  
  
Not registered? To sign up for an account with The Escapist:
Register With Facebook
Register With Facebook
or
Register for a free account here