Xbox One Sales Double in US Now Kinect Isn't Mandatory

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Xbox One Sales Double in US Now Kinect Isn't Mandatory

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Microsoft really wants a lot of new Xbox fans this summer.

"Over the past month, we've seen a strong spike in interest in our Xbox One console options, including the new $399 offering, and the amazing lineup of games announced during E3," says Microsoft. The Xbox maker would prefer to think this is thanks to the amazing new games coming this summer, but according to its own figures the spike starts from June 9th. What happened then? It stopped making the Kinect a mandatory part of the package, that's what happened then.

The Xbox One's price dropped to $399.99 without the Kinect, which also helped move units since one of the real problems since launch had been the unfavorable price point comparison with the PS4. Microsoft's figures only represent US trends, but it's likely a similar sales spike is taking place in its other markets.

CEO Satya Nadella recently reaffirmed that Xbox has a place in Microsoft's universe; it's not part of the company's core business, but hardware is a useful testing ground for its software ideas. Microsoft has said again and again that the Kinect is a core part of the Xbox experience, so you shouldn't expect this sales number revelation to change things at Microsoft. The Kinect is still part of Microsoft's world vision, even if it isn't part of yours.

Microsoft also reports steady growth in Xbox 360 sales, which oughtn't to come as a huge surprise. The console was expected to hang around after the Xbox One's launch, and what with it having a huge back catalog of titles, being significantly cheaper than the new console, and - until recently - being the only Xbox console not to ship with Kinect as standard, the 360 must seem attractive to a lot of gamers even now.

Source: Xbox Wire

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Before anyone else even tries to say it, NO, you cannot expect Microsoft to make a public announcement about this and tie it to the Kinect-less SKU. Business wise, that would be stupid, so people shouldnt expect them to say that, and start spouting off that they are lying or some garbage like that. This is pretty much a PR, business type of statement that acknowledges that fact, without acknowledging that fact, savvy?

Oh, and the games probably ARE helping, at the very least... I have preordered more games this fall than I ever have before. Ever. Only one game is for the 360, and that one is Sacred 3, on Aug. 5th. The other 8 games are for the One, and I am happy to see it finally getting some games!

Riff Moonraker:
Oh, and the games probably ARE helping, at the very least

I think it's safe to assume that the biggest factor is the hundred dollar price drop. Most buyer don't care about Kinect being there or not, but a game and a year's Xbox Live fitting in just over $500 instead of $600 makes a big difference.

Karloff:

the spike starts from January 9th.

Pretty sure you meant June.

fix-the-spade:

Riff Moonraker:
Oh, and the games probably ARE helping, at the very least

I think it's safe to assume that the biggest factor is the hundred dollar price drop. Most buyer don't care about Kinect being there or not, but a game and a year's Xbox Live fitting in just over $500 instead of $600 makes a big difference.

Oh, I completely agree... that goes part and parcel with the Kinect not being there... But you and I both know that alot of people will specifically target and mention the Kinect when they comment on this. But to Joe Public, its without question the price change that they will see, and react to...

If that is true.
NOOOOOO!!!!!! Do not drink the koolaid! Damn it...

If that is not true because well they already lied MANY times during the life of the Xbone.
People still know you are full of shit Micro$oft. As the (less than) proud owner of two of your prior consoles you still pushed me off the wagon too hard from the start with this brick waiting to happen.

Slash2x:
If that is true.
NOOOOOO!!!!!! Do not drink the koolaid! Damn it...

If that is not true because well they already lied MANY times during the life of the Xbone.
People still know you are full of shit Micro$oft. As the (less than) proud owner of two of your prior consoles you still pushed me off the wagon too hard from the start with this brick waiting to happen.

$ony are equally full of shit as Microsoft, and any suggestion that they aren't is pure fanboyism.

CEO Satya Nadella recently reaffirmed that Xbox has a place in Microsoft's universe

Well, they'll always need doorstops and paperweights.

Riff Moonraker:
Oh, and the games probably ARE helping, at the very least...

I'd hope so. Otherwise, it would mean people were willing to pay the same price for a console that cost less and had less power under the hood.

Zachary Amaranth:

Riff Moonraker:
Oh, and the games probably ARE helping, at the very least...

I'd hope so. Otherwise, it would mean people were willing to pay the same price for a console that cost less and had less power under the hood.

Yeah, but ultimately, the people who really give that much of a crap about that are small in number. Would I like my One to be perceived to be just as "powerful" as the PS4? Sure, of course, but either way it will not sway me to buy a PS4. Ever. I switched over from the PC with the original Xbox, and that is where I will stay. All my gaming revolves around the Xbox world, and has done so for many, many years. So long as they continue to make them, that will continue to be true. I am sure there are a great deal of people out there that feel exactly like that, as well, and were probably just waiting for a price drop, and have no intention of dropping the xbox and switching over.

smithy_2045:

Slash2x:
If that is true.
NOOOOOO!!!!!! Do not drink the koolaid! Damn it...

If that is not true because well they already lied MANY times during the life of the Xbone.
People still know you are full of shit Micro$oft. As the (less than) proud owner of two of your prior consoles you still pushed me off the wagon too hard from the start with this brick waiting to happen.

$ony are equally full of shit as Microsoft, and any suggestion that they aren't is pure fanboyism.

*looks at post* Who said Sony? I know Phony is full of crap too with their middle of the controller mandatory electric clit.
<-------- Steam user

Slash2x:
If that is true.
NOOOOOO!!!!!! Do not drink the koolaid! Damn it...

If that is not true because well they already lied MANY times during the life of the Xbone.
People still know you are full of shit Micro$oft. As the (less than) proud owner of two of your prior consoles you still pushed me off the wagon too hard from the start with this brick waiting to happen.

Exactly what I was talking about in my first post...

"Captain, sensors indicate the phrase "No shit, Sherlocke," has just been used an impressive amount of times in a span of a few minutes."

Riff Moonraker:
Before anyone else even tries to say it, NO, you cannot expect Microsoft to make a public announcement about this and tie it to the Kinect-less SKU. Business wise, that would be stupid, so people shouldnt expect them to say that, and start spouting off that they are lying or some garbage like that. This is pretty much a PR, business type of statement that acknowledges that fact, without acknowledging that fact, savvy?

They probably won't send out a PR statement about xbone's sales boost because of the spycan free SKU or at all. Indeed it would be dumb to tell investors and customers they did something stupid the cost those groups money. But, I can see a MS rep being asked about sales/or the cheaper SKU at the next trade show and them responding with the usual PR bolvine fecalmatter that spins the truth around to make it look like MS has our back. "We here at Microsoft care about our fans. We listened to concerns about the Kinect and decided give you an $399 Xbox One that you can add a Kinect for Xbone One onto later."

Microsoft admitted to a mistake? Nah, they're gonna go down swinging.

Riff Moonraker:

Yeah, but ultimately, the people who really give that much of a crap about that are small in number. Would I like my One to be perceived to be just as "powerful" as the PS4? Sure, of course, but either way it will not sway me to buy a PS4. Ever. I switched over from the PC with the original Xbox, and that is where I will stay. All my gaming revolves around the Xbox world, and has done so for many, many years. So long as they continue to make them, that will continue to be true. I am sure there are a great deal of people out there that feel exactly like that, as well, and were probably just waiting for a price drop, and have no intention of dropping the xbox and switching over.

I'm not sure your blind brand loyalty equates to people not caring. And I imagine they do care, even if not for the technicals, since Microsoft's platform struggles to keep up with even the rather meager HD promise of its competitor. I mean, if you want to pay more for the hardware and get inferior ports, then go for it, I don't care. It's your money. But don't put on pretenses this whole thing revolves around brand loyalty for others.

Someone on Neogaf already posted the context for this "growth".

April 2014 total (4 weeks): 115K for a weekly average of 28.75K
May 2014 total (4 weeks): 77K for a weekly average of 19.25K
June 2014 total (5 weeks): ~155K for a weekly average of 31K

"Double" what was one of the worst months ever for Microsoft is some wonderful PR spin, but the Kinect-less Xbox One really only spiked back up to the level it was at two months earlier. The real test will be to see if it can keep the momentum or whether it plummets again.

Hairless Mammoth:
"Captain, sensors indicate the phrase "No shit, Sherlocke," has just been used an impressive amount of times in a span of a few minutes."

Riff Moonraker:
Before anyone else even tries to say it, NO, you cannot expect Microsoft to make a public announcement about this and tie it to the Kinect-less SKU. Business wise, that would be stupid, so people shouldnt expect them to say that, and start spouting off that they are lying or some garbage like that. This is pretty much a PR, business type of statement that acknowledges that fact, without acknowledging that fact, savvy?

They probably won't send out a PR statement about xbone's sales boost because of the spycan free SKU or at all. Indeed it would be dumb to tell investors and customers they did something stupid the cost those groups money. But, I can see a MS rep being asked about sales/or the cheaper SKU at the next trade show and them responding with the usual PR bolvine fecalmatter that spins the truth around to make it look like MS has our back. "We here at Microsoft care about our fans. We listened to concerns about the Kinect and decided give you an $399 Xbox One that you can add a Kinect for Xbone One onto later."

Exactly... its just bad business. If Sony were in this position, they would do the same thing, as would Nintendo, or anyone else.

Trishbot:
Someone on Neogaf already posted the context for this "growth".

April 2014 total (4 weeks): 115K for a weekly average of 28.75K
May 2014 total (4 weeks): 77K for a weekly average of 19.25K
June 2014 total (5 weeks): ~155K for a weekly average of 31K

"Double" what was one of the worst months ever for Microsoft is some wonderful PR spin, but the Kinect-less Xbox One really only spiked back up to the level it was at two months earlier. The real test will be to see if it can keep the momentum or whether it plummets again.

Ah, thats some wonderful context you found there.

Well done.

Zachary Amaranth:

Riff Moonraker:

Yeah, but ultimately, the people who really give that much of a crap about that are small in number. Would I like my One to be perceived to be just as "powerful" as the PS4? Sure, of course, but either way it will not sway me to buy a PS4. Ever. I switched over from the PC with the original Xbox, and that is where I will stay. All my gaming revolves around the Xbox world, and has done so for many, many years. So long as they continue to make them, that will continue to be true. I am sure there are a great deal of people out there that feel exactly like that, as well, and were probably just waiting for a price drop, and have no intention of dropping the xbox and switching over.

I'm not sure your blind brand loyalty equates to people not caring. And I imagine they do care, even if not for the technicals, since Microsoft's platform struggles to keep up with even the rather meager HD promise of its competitor. I mean, if you want to pay more for the hardware and get inferior ports, then go for it, I don't care. It's your money. But don't put on pretenses this whole thing revolves around brand loyalty for others.

But in alot of cases, it does. Sony fanboys did it last gen, when they were the ones getting the inferior ports, as well. Its no different here. Last gen they would all say that it wasnt that much of a difference, or you couldnt even tell, and in most cases they were right. Same with this gen, when I see comparisons, I dont see a difference. Also note that I simply carried on a discussion with you, and at no point did I ever infer you were a foolish person, however, trying to say I have "blind" brand loyalty, implies that I am ignorant or lack the ability to make responsible decisions. My decision to stay "loyal" to the xbox comes from the system having the games I want to play and the friends I want to play with... its a preference and a choice that I choose to make, and just because YOU dont agree with it, I would appreciate it if you wouldnt attempt to insult me. If you want to have a civil, interesting, and informative discussion, I would be glad to chat away all day long. However, I refuse to deal with anyone if they want to act childish and start throwing insults, no matter how vague.

Well lookie there, by removing the pointless thing no one wanted from the package they started actually selling consoles. I mean it's not like they didn't already try to sell the Kinect with the 360 and found out that no one wanted the stupid thing. To think where they would have been if they had never tried to push that idiocy on launch. They would be in such a better position.

And it only took them a year to see the obvious. And the sad truth is, it's still a weaker console with weaker exclusive titles.

Trishbot:
Someone on Neogaf already posted the context for this "growth".

April 2014 total (4 weeks): 115K for a weekly average of 28.75K
May 2014 total (4 weeks): 77K for a weekly average of 19.25K
June 2014 total (5 weeks): ~155K for a weekly average of 31K

"Double" what was one of the worst months ever for Microsoft is some wonderful PR spin, but the Kinect-less Xbox One really only spiked back up to the level it was at two months earlier. The real test will be to see if it can keep the momentum or whether it plummets again.

Oh, well that gives us a completely new perspective. Let's see what happens indeed.

Trishbot:
Someone on Neogaf already posted the context for this "growth".

April 2014 total (4 weeks): 115K for a weekly average of 28.75K
May 2014 total (4 weeks): 77K for a weekly average of 19.25K
June 2014 total (5 weeks): ~155K for a weekly average of 31K

"Double" what was one of the worst months ever for Microsoft is some wonderful PR spin, but the Kinect-less Xbox One really only spiked back up to the level it was at two months earlier. The real test will be to see if it can keep the momentum or whether it plummets again.

Too bad not everyone is willing to follow the numbers to find out the whole story. ell done providing some context here for those who won't be bothered digging a bit deeper themselves. It'd be nice to have this sort of context in the actual article to be honest, rather than simply reporting the usual marketing spin.

There are still no Xbones or Xbone games in a large amount of stores over here though. Game Mania and Media Markt have them, but the regular toy stores got nothing.

Trishbot:
Someone on Neogaf already posted the context for this "growth".

April 2014 total (4 weeks): 115K for a weekly average of 28.75K
May 2014 total (4 weeks): 77K for a weekly average of 19.25K
June 2014 total (5 weeks): ~155K for a weekly average of 31K

"Double" what was one of the worst months ever for Microsoft is some wonderful PR spin, but the Kinect-less Xbox One really only spiked back up to the level it was at two months earlier. The real test will be to see if it can keep the momentum or whether it plummets again.

You should have included February and March numbers to show how many units Titanfall pushed as well.

So here they are.

February - 258,000
March - 311,000

Even with a $100 price reduction still below the first 3 months of the year ouch.

Slash2x:

smithy_2045:

Slash2x:
If that is true.
NOOOOOO!!!!!! Do not drink the koolaid! Damn it...

If that is not true because well they already lied MANY times during the life of the Xbone.
People still know you are full of shit Micro$oft. As the (less than) proud owner of two of your prior consoles you still pushed me off the wagon too hard from the start with this brick waiting to happen.

$ony are equally full of shit as Microsoft, and any suggestion that they aren't is pure fanboyism.

*looks at post* Who said Sony? I know Phony is full of crap too with their middle of the controller mandatory electric clit.
<-------- Steam user

Valve are only marginally better themselves.

Even though i have a ps3 i still think i would get more value out of a 360 than the Xbone, if i bought it now. It just seems like a console with a very mediocre line-up of games at the moment. I could play Forza 5 but Forza 4 is cheap and it sounds like a better game. Next year it might look slightly better, i still wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole, maybe in 2016 or 2017 when something worthwhile actually releases. At the moment it's just a lot of games that either look bland or also releases on 360/ps3 or pc.

Still fuck all I wanna play on these next gen consoles, nothing I can't get on the 360/PS3 at least, so why should I want to buy one.

Xbone. Better without Kinect.

I have absolutely no problem with the Kinect being sold as a separate accessory to the system. Sell the system without it and if people are interested in it they'll pick one up. OPTIONS!

You really do have to wonder when Microsoft will realize that the Kinect is a failed concept and nothing more than an albatross around their neck. It failed (relatively speaking) on the 360, it caused the XBone's launch to be a sputtering crawl, and now they see that sales have jumped since they removed it from the package?

The writing is on the wall, MS, just sweep the Kinect under the rug and move on with your life without it.

RJ 17:

You really do have to wonder when Microsoft will realize that the Kinect is a failed concept and nothing more than an albatross around their neck.

Now I'm not fully defending the Kinect here, but I will say that Kinect can do amazing things. Sadly though, of those amazing things the one it doesn't do well at all is video games, which is ironic. :P
I mean, using the Kinect as a motion sensor for mo-cap on SFMs has been great through many of the fluid animations I've seen. Another use is back in high school the Kinect had just come out so we actually programmed our F.R.C robot to be controlled with the Kinect, and it worked for the most part.

OT: I'm not surprised. A lot of people hated that they'd have to pay more for an peripheral that they didn't want or weren't really gonna use. Now that it's optional, I can see more people buying an Xbox One. For me though, I got burned out on Microsoft's consoles after 2010 when I started to notice that the PS3 was getting more of the types of games I liked than the 360. That trend continued and seems to be continuing now. So far the only game I'd be interested in getting an Xbox One for is the same as most other people: Sunset Overdrive, and that's more because I know Insomniac makes good games that are fun. (F.U.S.E and Full Frontal Assualt notwithstanding)

Riff Moonraker:

Zachary Amaranth:

Riff Moonraker:

Yeah, but ultimately, the people who really give that much of a crap about that are small in number. Would I like my One to be perceived to be just as "powerful" as the PS4? Sure, of course, but either way it will not sway me to buy a PS4. Ever. I switched over from the PC with the original Xbox, and that is where I will stay. All my gaming revolves around the Xbox world, and has done so for many, many years. So long as they continue to make them, that will continue to be true. I am sure there are a great deal of people out there that feel exactly like that, as well, and were probably just waiting for a price drop, and have no intention of dropping the xbox and switching over.

I'm not sure your blind brand loyalty equates to people not caring. And I imagine they do care, even if not for the technicals, since Microsoft's platform struggles to keep up with even the rather meager HD promise of its competitor. I mean, if you want to pay more for the hardware and get inferior ports, then go for it, I don't care. It's your money. But don't put on pretenses this whole thing revolves around brand loyalty for others.

But in alot of cases, it does. Sony fanboys did it last gen, when they were the ones getting the inferior ports, as well. Its no different here. Last gen they would all say that it wasnt that much of a difference, or you couldnt even tell, and in most cases they were right. Same with this gen, when I see comparisons, I dont see a difference. Also note that I simply carried on a discussion with you, and at no point did I ever infer you were a foolish person, however, trying to say I have "blind" brand loyalty, implies that I am ignorant or lack the ability to make responsible decisions. My decision to stay "loyal" to the xbox comes from the system having the games I want to play and the friends I want to play with... its a preference and a choice that I choose to make, and just because YOU dont agree with it, I would appreciate it if you wouldnt attempt to insult me. If you want to have a civil, interesting, and informative discussion, I would be glad to chat away all day long. However, I refuse to deal with anyone if they want to act childish and start throwing insults, no matter how vague.

"I switched over from the PC with the original Xbox, and that is where I will stay. All my gaming revolves around the Xbox world, and has done so for many, many years. So long as they continue to make them, that will continue to be true."

This right here is blind brand loyalty. You say you will continue to pick up Xbox consoles as long as they keep making them, disregarding any quality issues the devices may have in the future. It's absolutely fine to say you prefer Xbox right now, that they are making games for it that you are looking forward to playing more than the competitors. That's cool. But to just say outright that you will always stick with the Xbox consoles as long as they keep making them is blind brand loyalty.

COMaestro:

Riff Moonraker:

Zachary Amaranth:

I'm not sure your blind brand loyalty equates to people not caring. And I imagine they do care, even if not for the technicals, since Microsoft's platform struggles to keep up with even the rather meager HD promise of its competitor. I mean, if you want to pay more for the hardware and get inferior ports, then go for it, I don't care. It's your money. But don't put on pretenses this whole thing revolves around brand loyalty for others.

But in alot of cases, it does. Sony fanboys did it last gen, when they were the ones getting the inferior ports, as well. Its no different here. Last gen they would all say that it wasnt that much of a difference, or you couldnt even tell, and in most cases they were right. Same with this gen, when I see comparisons, I dont see a difference. Also note that I simply carried on a discussion with you, and at no point did I ever infer you were a foolish person, however, trying to say I have "blind" brand loyalty, implies that I am ignorant or lack the ability to make responsible decisions. My decision to stay "loyal" to the xbox comes from the system having the games I want to play and the friends I want to play with... its a preference and a choice that I choose to make, and just because YOU dont agree with it, I would appreciate it if you wouldnt attempt to insult me. If you want to have a civil, interesting, and informative discussion, I would be glad to chat away all day long. However, I refuse to deal with anyone if they want to act childish and start throwing insults, no matter how vague.

"I switched over from the PC with the original Xbox, and that is where I will stay. All my gaming revolves around the Xbox world, and has done so for many, many years. So long as they continue to make them, that will continue to be true."

This right here is blind brand loyalty. You say you will continue to pick up Xbox consoles as long as they keep making them, disregarding any quality issues the devices may have in the future. It's absolutely fine to say you prefer Xbox right now, that they are making games for it that you are looking forward to playing more than the competitors. That's cool. But to just say outright that you will always stick with the Xbox consoles as long as they keep making them is blind brand loyalty.

Yeah, looking at that again, I didnt word that right... I should have added that so long as they keep making the games I want to play, so long as the controllers continue to be better for me, so long as my friends continue to play on there, etc. etc... which I did state elsewhere, but I can see where that would come off like that. You get my meaning, I would hope. No, I wouldnt stay with them if they started putting out garbage I wasnt interested in, I would probably just go back to the PC.

Any games that aren't Titanfall, Ass Creed 4 and Watch_Dogs yet? I presume we have to wait until October...

Riff Moonraker:

Zachary Amaranth:

Riff Moonraker:
Oh, and the games probably ARE helping, at the very least...

I'd hope so. Otherwise, it would mean people were willing to pay the same price for a console that cost less and had less power under the hood.

Yeah, but ultimately, the people who really give that much of a crap about that are small in number. Would I like my One to be perceived to be just as "powerful" as the PS4? Sure, of course, but either way it will not sway me to buy a PS4. Ever. I switched over from the PC with the original Xbox, and that is where I will stay. All my gaming revolves around the Xbox world, and has done so for many, many years. So long as they continue to make them, that will continue to be true. I am sure there are a great deal of people out there that feel exactly like that, as well, and were probably just waiting for a price drop, and have no intention of dropping the xbox and switching over.

You accuse sony of being full of shit and anyone disagreeing is a Sony fanboy then later admit that your a Microsoft fanboy, sorry bud but your arguments are mute. Sony did not pull any of the shit Microsoft did, what MS did was give us gamers the middle finger and told us to eat their shit. It's about time they listened, the sound of closing wallets is very powerful.

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