Odd.. I could have sworn I read that the Sin Six movie was canned..
You read a bunch of speculation from people who didn't read the interview it supposedly originated from.
Great to see Sony keeping up such amazing work with this franchise.. Hey, let's make a movie no one asked for based on the undeveloped villains of Spider-man just so we can keep the rights and milk the shit out of it. Hopefully Sinister Six will tank hard and kill the future Spider-man movies. Then we wait til 2018 (am I being too generous? Let's say 2017 instead) for another reboot.
Unfortunately, you just touched on why this movie tanking will mean nothing. They'll wait a couple years and reboot it again. And it will almost certainly sell, and people will still likely be dissatisfied for whatever reasons they can nitpick this time.
One of the reasons that villain team ups like the Sinister Six do not work beyond "wouldn't it be awesome if..." is because having to have 6 villains team up in order for them to pose a threat to the hero undermines their competence as villains. You're ultimately saying "these villains are so shitty that they couldn't take him on alone, and the only way they stood a chance is together." That works when you have heroes team up to take on a single villain, because it immediately raises the stakes: our heroes are supposed to be vulnerable, inadequate, and forced to dig deep in order to overcome the odds. It doesn't work that way with the villains.
Well, you're assuming two things here:
One is a strict progression of power. Spider-Man rarely beats the Sinister Six by raw power anyway, and he almost never wins when he takes them on head-to head. The fact that they can school his ass as a group does up the stakes, and it hasn't weakened the characters in the comics. If anything, the thing that's weakened the characters in the comics is how often members of the various S6/12/whatever are used as throwaway villains.
The other is that this is going to be a Spider-Man movie, where all indications are it won't be. Or, I should say, most. According to Kurtzman, it's questionable as to how "shared universe" these movies are.
It's like playing a video game where you fight a character that's a boss in level 1, and then they bring him back as a regular enemy in level 2. The only way that works is to then dumb him down, which eliminates any tension.
Or, you know, power up the hero. Or they're simply not as threatening now that you know how to beat them.
We're not thinking "man! How is spiderman gonna survive this?" They already told us that they have plans for Amazing Spiderman 3, so there goes any suspension of disbelief as to whether or not our hero will triumph.
See, this strikes me as nitpicking, because I doubt you've spent a lot of time wondering if the heroes would lose, let alone in a superhero movie.
Unless this sinister 6 movie won't involved Spiderman,
Only quoting this because I know if I don't, someone will tell me I didn't read the post. I did. The previous argument was still based on the assumption.
At any rate, the movie handled the villain bloat better than I thought it would, though the ending felt a little too tacked on for my liking. The idea of a Sinister Six movie just doesn't sit well with me, though. It seems like a really roundabout way of (presumably) developing the villains so that the third movie (assuming it even gets made) could feature better established characters.
The third movie will most likely get made. The second made too much money for it to not, and Sony doesn't want to give the rights up.
But on that note, you know what would have been a better way to develop the villains?
Develop the villains.
The Sinister Six strikes me as an awesome movie idea, but there's been so little time devoted to most of the villains and dropping it here seems to waste its potential. Combine that with the fact that it may not even feature Spider-Man, and you've got a host of potential issues.
I mean, they could have had like two villains a movie, done three movies, and led to a S6 movie which bridged 3 and 4 (assuming they didn't just reboot after 3 movies again), and it could have been awesome. Two villains a movie could still allow for enough characterisation and depth to make people care. Even a stand-alone movie dedicated mostly to them would work, but this? Can Sony pull off a movie full of bad guys the public may or may not care about with little introduction? I see this as possibly doing more harm than good.
And this is coming from someone who doesn't hate the franchise or want it to fail or whatever.