Report: PS4 Outselling Xbox One 3-to-1

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Report: PS4 Outselling Xbox One 3-to-1

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Sony's latest financials have revealed that it sold 3.5 million PlayStation consoles last quarter compared to 1.1 million Xbox 360s and Xbox Ones.

It took me less than five minutes to get to my local Best Buy after I received the text alert informing me it had PS4's in stock. Even so, by the time I got there was already a line out the door, filled with gamers of all shapes, ages and gender excitedly talking about Sony's new console. Joining them in line I soon found myself standing with an even longer tail of people falling in behind me until finally store associates had to start informing people thatthere wouldn't be enough for everyone.

Granted, this sort of spectacle is nothing new. Waiting in long lines to get a shiny new console is almost a gaming ritual at this point. That said, recent reports would seem to indicate that the PlayStation 4's success has extended well past the excitement of early adopters scrambling to get their hands on the latest machine. According to Sony's latest financials, the company saw a 95.7 percent year over year increase in its gaming based revenues, adding up to 2.5 billion dollars in sales. A note in this report pinned this growth directly on the success of the PS4 and its attached services.

Perhaps more notable than these percentages however are the actual sales numbers revealed by the report. During this past quarter Sony has apparently sold 3.5 million consoles (PS3 and PS4 combined) to customers. This, of course, is substantially more than Microsoft's Xbox line which, according to its own figures, only shipped 1.1 million Xbox 360s and Xbox One's to retailers during the same time period. It's worth mentioning that this doesn't necessarily mean that the Xbox One is doing badly. That said, it definitely seems like the PlayStation brand has recaptured the stride it arguably fumbled during the last generation. We'll be interested to see, of course, how long it can hold on to it.

Source: GamesIndustry International

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Superior hardware, lower launch price, a far more attractive design, and less chance of dystopian surveillance?

Shocking!

I know I shouldn't care about the petty squables of concole sales...

....but this pleases me...

Vault101:
I know I shouldn't care about the petty squables of concole sales...

....but this pleases me...

2 billion dollars of revenue. SOOO PITTYYYYYYY

Anyway, PS4 > XboxOne, people will say "no big deal", but in a world full of COD, Bieber, Transformers, Twilight, Naruto, etc. This is actually surprising; something superior in almost every aspect is actually selling more, go figure.

"only shipped 1.1 million Xbox 360s and Xbox One's to retailers"

And as we all know shipped is not the same as sold. Always bothers me when they disclose shipped numbers but not sales numbers, because it just gives the impression that sales are not good and are trying to spin it to sound better.

Honestly I do hope that the Xbone flops hard and this news does make me smile.

Looks like the mass market wanted a dedicated video game console more than a 500 dollar TV box after all.

I was hearing from every place I went to that they were selling 3-4 PS4's for each XBO, some even having trouble moving XBO stock at all so hearing this is the rule pleases me greatly. Who says the market is at the mercy of the corporations has been proven wrong here.

Even though I don't care much for consoles, I hoped PS4 would come out on top, or at least teach Microsoft a lesson. You know with E3, lying, telling gamers what they want, and imposing DRM. I am ok with this news.

gamegod25:
"only shipped 1.1 million Xbox 360s and Xbox One's to retailers"

And as we all know shipped is not the same as sold. Always bothers me when they disclose shipped numbers but not sales numbers, because it just gives the impression that sales are not good and are trying to spin it to sound better.

Honestly I do hope that the Xbone flops hard and this news does make me smile.

I didn't even notice at the time.

So its entirely possible that the PS4 outsold the Xbox One by even more than 3 to 1. Thats crazy.

"The best games of the year live on Xbox One." - Microsoft ad

And yet, it seems that most gamers seem to disagree.

Funny how better hardware, a cheaper launch price, a more robust (and reliable) controller, larger game selection, and a core dedication to making a gaming machine somehow appeals more to gamers than an overpriced, half-assed cable box.

But then again, gamers are stupid. How could anyone pass up buying a console with a camera that watches you 24/7 as you play Peggle 2?!

Good for Sony, but it will be a long time before I get the system, since it has no games that I want. While I will never have a desire to get any Xbox system, hopefully they learn from their lessons and try to do better. While Xbox isn't doing well at the moment, I see in the future they can still sell a decent number of consoles. The main thing is that both systems need more variety of games to show what they have to offer.

Justice.

I don't think people are stupid. The Xbox 360, while truthfully a fine gaming machine with a very streamlined social gaming aspect, was mostly a fad. I remember the first time I saw an Xbox Live ad before a movie at the theater... it actually creeped me out, because when the Xbox Live logo was displayed at the end of the ad (the ad didn't explain what exactly it was until the logo appeared), several people in the audience.. well, GASPED, and exclaimed "XBOX LIVE!" in a loud whisper. That was fucking creepy.

I've often felt about Xbox the way Yahtzee feels about Halo - a great thing, yes, but as great as it's made out to be? What the fuck drugs are they pumping into people?

So anyway... people aren't stupid. They caught onto Microsoft's game and realize that they were being studied and pandered to, and since Microsoft made a bad prediction on the future of gaming, that alienated the WRONG demographic whom clearly have decided to migrate to Sony, who seem to have continued to have a clear vision on what a gaming console should be from day one and have not molested that core concept at all.

It's obvious that Sony is winning here, but what I want to know is how did the Wii-U do in comparison to the Xbox One last quarter?

Wait. Sony sold 3.5 million consoles to customers. Microsoft shipped 1.1 million consoles to retailers. Guys, I would say that the actual number is greater than 3-1. Microsoft probably sold less than 1.1 million consoles to customers.

That being said, 3.5 million also takes into account PS3's which I doubt are selling poorly. Looking at VGChartz hardware sales figures for the week July 19 and extrapolating, PS3's may make up about a third of those sells. Not too shabby, and only slightly less than the Xbox One.

Another interesting bit of data, the Vita sold even better than the PS3, largely due to Japan, which does make me wonder is Vita and PSP sales are included in those figures. The 3DS is the top selling piece of hardware during the week, but if you take away Japanese sales, it would be a strong second.

I probably won't buy either (Might get a PS4 if it gets games I want), but I'm kind of glad. Microsoft went all in on stupid things and now they will have to pay for those choices.

Vault101:
I know I shouldn't care about the petty squables of concole sales...

....but this pleases me...

The consoles will have their revenge by ruining (franchise you love).

gamegod25:

And as we all know shipped is not the same as sold. Always bothers me when they disclose shipped numbers but not sales numbers, because it just gives the impression that sales are not good and are trying to spin it to sound better.

Almost all the figures we get are units shipped, not the sell through. This is true for consoles, games, whatever. Because once that happens, they're paid for and Microsoft/Sony/EA/(company you love) has their money. The obvious exception is Digital Distribution figures, but that's not only not on point it's kind of impossible for a console itself.

Edit: Forget I said that. I missed that the report actually said "sold through" for the PS units. Usually, the figures for both are "sold," which literally just means that they shipped to retailers.

I'm sure it'll all work itself out for Microsoft...though with their dropping of stuff like the original shows and all that I wonder how they are going to try to convince people on the Xbone.

Saltyk:

Another interesting bit of data, the Vita sold even better than the PS3, largely due to Japan, which does make me wonder is Vita and PSP sales are included in those figures. The 3DS is the top selling piece of hardware during the week, but if you take away Japanese sales, it would be a strong second.

According to forbes Vita, PSP and Vita TV are counted separately and stand at 750,000 (which is up by 150,000).

Eh, I got a bit of a first hand experience with that sort of thing.
The store I'm currently working at is closing. Sunday began our liquidation, and the consoles were 10% off. We had three PS4 and two XBOnes in stock, and I was expecting them to go fast.
The PS4s didn't make it past the first day, being sold off by around 4 PM, while the XBOnes didn't get sold off until the next day.

I like to think of that as a bit of proof as to the PS4's obvious success...

I will go on record as saying that the PS3 and Xbox 360 were pretty even gaming machines in terms of quality. Both had their positives and negatives, and it largely came down to personal preference and exclusive titles as to which you would prefer.

No such moral dilemma this time around, though. The Xbone is getting crushed, in basically every sense of the word, and Microsoft is making themselves very easy to root against in this one.

I don't own a PS4 yet, but I will almost certainly be getting one at some point down the line. I don't think there's anything that Microsoft could do at this point to tempt me to pick up their box of failure and lies.

You'd think I'd like Microsoft, considering I use their software all the time... Nope. Not a single shot in all the universe I could say that with a straight face.

This is what happens when you offer inferior hardware for a higher price. There's no reason to buy a Xbone. Hell, most of it's exclusives will still be coming out on PC as well.

3 to 1?

Damm, I at best expected 2 to 1 but this is amazing.

Well PS4 has much less of that Orwellian design quality that I never really cared for so it makes sense.

But in honesty, as I live in Japan the Xbox is beyond pointless here... even the 360... Ironically, though even the PS4 gets a little bit shafted in terms of content here which is surprising.

StewShearer:
It's worth mentioning that this doesn't necessarily mean that the Xbox One is doing badly.

Actually, that's pretty much exactly what it means.

If they've only shipped just over a million units, that means they've sold less than that. And those figures are for both the 360 and the Xbone, so you could probably chop a good 30-40% off of those on top of that as 360 sales, if not more. The Wii U, for comparison, broke 500k units last quarter.

Which means the Wii U is getting dangerously close to selling more units than the Xbone.

So if people are going to insist that the Wii U is a "failure" and is "dying", but the Xbone is now beginning to reach a point where it's struggling to keep ahead of a "failing" console....then yes, the Xbone is doing very badly indeed.

And I couldn't be happier. This is exactly what they deserved, and it's good to see them going down in flames. Microsoft deserves every last bit of damage this does to them.

Here's my question:
WHY?

There's nothing exclusive on the system that could warrants this kind of massive buying to me.
Same goes for the Xbone.

I ADORE my PS2, love my PS1, and really enjoy my PS3...
But none of the systems, at launch, were anything more than 'nice toys with a high price'.

Well, nothing surprising here. The system is based around being a game system, sold cheaper, equivalent power, and without the massive dickatry involved with microsoft and the xbone's massive flip flop campaign. Just on that reason also, it is no surprise gamers decided to choose the more stable and reliable option when the choice was presented (and exclusives weren't a determining factor).

Still, the systems aren't exceptionally aged and neither has had the massive quintessential defining games for their system. That ps4 is "winning" now is a nice cathartic result from microsoft's campaign of screw ups, but I doubt it will mean much in the long run. Hell, in spite of how badly Sony has been spanking them, I can only hope that microsoft at least learns a little from not reaching the massive profits they want to reach rather then they actually be punished with financial failure to force the lesson home and prove the market really can dictate positive changes. It simply is not likely microsoft's less then opposition sales is going to mean anything much in the long haul.

Honestly I thought Xbox One might see a pick up in sales thanks to the price change. Not only that but the removal of the camera as well. With those two factors out of the way one would think there would be an increase. Seems not. Still like someone said "Shipped" isn't the same as "Sales" With more games around the corner and the holiday season fast approaching both systems will see some activity.

Zachary Amaranth:
I probably won't buy either (Might get a PS4 if it gets games I want), but I'm kind of glad. Microsoft went all in on stupid things and now they will have to pay for those choices.

Vault101:
I know I shouldn't care about the petty squables of concole sales...

....but this pleases me...

The consoles will have their revenge by ruining (franchise you love).

gamegod25:

And as we all know shipped is not the same as sold. Always bothers me when they disclose shipped numbers but not sales numbers, because it just gives the impression that sales are not good and are trying to spin it to sound better.

Almost all the figures we get are units shipped, not the sell through. This is true for consoles, games, whatever. Because once that happens, they're paid for and Microsoft/Sony/EA/(company you love) has their money. The obvious exception is Digital Distribution figures, but that's not only not on point it's kind of impossible for a console itself.

Edit: Forget I said that. I missed that the report actually said "sold through" for the PS units. Usually, the figures for both are "sold," which literally just means that they shipped to retailers.

My point is that selling/shipping units to retailers is not the same as actually sold to customers. The way they present the numbers is to imply the latter, normally to make it sound like it is selling well. Sure they may have shipped 1.1 million units combined but the number of actually sold may be much less. That both numbers include both current and last gen consoles doesn't help make it any easier to measure how well the PS4 and Xbone are selling respectively.

But even taking all that into account that number is still pretty pitiful for MS.

I'd like to see the Xbox One succeed. They didn't show up to E3 with a bunch of zombie games like Sony. They showed up with stuff that looked fun.

So, in how many countries is the xbone available? Because I think that might have helped with that number.

People were queing up like that to play last gen games at kind of 1080p sometimes and watch netflix?

People are strange.

So, I guess this means now we'll just have to call it the Xbox Three to One.

hickwarrior:
So, in how many countries is the xbone available? Because I think that might have helped with that number.

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/xbox-one-by-americans-for-americans.jpg

considering that was basically how it was marketed outside the US, i doubt it is doing well. Game Industry News ran a story on how it was getting stomped in Europe, Asia and Oceania(Aus and NZ)

hickwarrior:
So, in how many countries is the xbone available? Because I think that might have helped with that number.

Still only in those countries, when it actually launch in 2013, at least as far as I know. In my country (Poland), it's going to enter the market this Fall. I'm not sure how that is supposed to work like, since there aren't that much exclusives on XBO, and whoever wanted a new console had an entire year to buy PS4. I only know one person, who actually bought PS4 but is going to sell it, and buy XBO when it comes out. The rest doesn't care. Congratulations Microsoft. Your business strategy was a great success, once again.

Yossarian1507:

hickwarrior:
So, in how many countries is the xbone available? Because I think that might have helped with that number.

Still only in those countries, when it actually launch in 2013, at least as far as I know. In my country (Poland), it's going to enter the market this Fall. I'm not sure how that is supposed to work like, since there aren't that much exclusives on XBO, and whoever wanted a new console had an entire year to buy PS4. I only know one person, who actually bought PS4 but is going to sell it, and buy XBO when it comes out. The rest doesn't care. Congratulations Microsoft. Your business strategy was a great success, once again.

That makes it easier for me to get a PS4 then... Seriously, why stagger the release like this in the first place? That's one of the dumbest moves you could've done. Pretty sure everyone could've seen that. Maybe it had to do with the DRM in the first place? *sighs*

Then again, I never cared for the xbox brand to begin with.

StewShearer:
Granted, this sort of spectacle is nothing new. Waiting in long lines to get a shiny new console is almost a gaming ritual at this point.

Speak for yourself. Standing in line for the newest videogames/consoles seems to be an American thing only. I can't say I've ever stood in line for a new release, I simply just walk in the store and buy it. :)

It's remarkable though that this is all thanks to that one Microsoft conference, because neither console has a killer app, they're priced the same, and while the Xbone is a bit weaker I'm sure most people aren't even be aware of this. It's still the first year though -- the PS3 showed how things can turn around, but it was 200 bucks more expensive and about a year late. If the Xbone is already falling behind for no reason...

Tanis:
Here's my question:
WHY?

There's nothing exclusive on the system that could warrants this kind of massive buying to me.
Same goes for the Xbone.

It's not just exclusives that sell games though, multi plats shift units and they all look best on the PS4.

Battlefield? Looks better and runs faster on PS4.
Call of Duty? Better on PS4.
Fifa, UFC, even freaking LEGO games? Yup, all noticeably smoother and sharper on the PS4.

If people are buying these things for Call of Duty or Fifa (which they surely are) they're going to want the best version of it, that's the PS4 one. My local GAME has the PS4 and Xbone demo units sat next to each other on identical screens (big 40in Panasonic things), it doesn't do the Xbone any favours to be sat running the same game next to a PS4 like that, people really do notice the difference.

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