Man Kills Self While Taking a Selfie With a Gun

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Man Kills Self While Taking a Selfie With a Gun

Oscar Otero Aguilar Fatal Selfie Victim

A young man in Mexico accidentally died after pointing a gun at himself while taking a selfie for Facebook.

In news that might sadden and frustrate you at the same time, a young man (pictured) in Mexico died after he accidentally shot himself while taking a Facebook selfie. Oscar Otero Aguilar, 21, of Mexico City, was mortally wounded when the gun he was pointing at his head accidentally discharged. Police state that Aguilar had borrowed the gun and was waving it around while trying to snap a photo. Aguilar's neighbor, Manfredo Paez Paez told local media: "I heard a gunshot, and then I heard somebody screaming and realized somebody had been hurt. I called the police and when they arrived they found that he was still alive."

The victim died in an ambulance on the way to the hospital. Previous selfies on Facebook by Aguilar showed him in front of fast cars, posing in a band and hugging beautiful women.

Ignoring the fact that private gun ownership is illegal in Mexico, why on earth would anyone want to take a selfie of themselves holding a real gun pointed to their heads is beyond me. Has social media morphed into such a big deal now that people are even doing dangerous things just to get noticed? Hopefully, this is an isolated incident and will prove to be an example that it's never a good idea to point a loaded gun at anything -- especially to yourself.

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This guy seems like a complete idiot. :/

I never understood peoples desire to take a selfie I have never taken one nor do I feel the need to.

But why take one with a gun let alone one that's loaded that's just asking for a bad time.

Seems like a candidate for Darwin Awards 2014...

Well, a posthumous Darwin Award seems appropriate.

....Ninja'd.

First rule of gun safety: Do not point the weapon at anything that you do not wish to put a hole in.

Second rule of gun safety: Be aware of the weapon's state of readiness at all times. (i.e. Loaded/unloaded, cocked/uncocked, safety on/off.)

Do they not teach people this shit anymore? Or are some people just too dumb to listen to what is essentially just common sense?

Zhukov:
First rule of gun safety: Do not point the weapon at anything that you do not wish to put a hole in.

Second rule of gun safety: Be aware of the weapon's state of readiness at all times. (i.e. Loaded/unloaded, cocked/uncocked, safety on/off.)

Do they not teach people this shit anymore? Or are some people just too dumb to listen to what is essentially just common sense?

Honestly, while rules are good and all...one should think that it wouldnt be necessary to remind people to not point deadly weapons at themselves.

I cant muster any sympathy for this. Not a single gram of it.

Zhukov:
First rule of gun safety: Do not point the weapon at anything that you do not wish to put a hole in.

Second rule of gun safety: Be aware of the weapon's state of readiness at all times. (i.e. Loaded/unloaded, cocked/uncocked, safety on/off.)

Do they not teach people this shit anymore? Or are some people just too dumb to listen to what is essentially just common sense?

Unfortunately, there are just too many people and too many firearms. Even if the overwhelming majority of people use guns correctly and responsibly, this kind of thing is inevitable. It only takes one idiot.

While i doubt this is the only time that this has happened, I truly wish that people who own guns, actually respect the rules of them.

The number of moronic deaths is staggering. I respect people's rights to own a firearm, but I wish they would respect the weapons themselves and treat them properly.

tzimize:

Zhukov:
First rule of gun safety: Do not point the weapon at anything that you do not wish to put a hole in.

Second rule of gun safety: Be aware of the weapon's state of readiness at all times. (i.e. Loaded/unloaded, cocked/uncocked, safety on/off.)

Do they not teach people this shit anymore? Or are some people just too dumb to listen to what is essentially just common sense?

Honestly, while rules are good and all...one should think that it wouldnt be necessary to remind people to not point deadly weapons at themselves.

Exactly!

I mean, okay, someone wants to break the first rule in order to take a "cool" photo of themselves. Fine. I don't approve, but whatever, it's his gun.

But you'd think that the very first consideration upon deciding to do this would be something along the lines of, "Gosh, better make sure there aren't any bullets in this thing. Maybe turn the safety on while I'm at it."

"Man, my vatos are gonna think this shit's so fly when they see this on Instagr-"

*sudden white-out*

"Um, hi? Saint Peter, here. You're free to pass but, seriously? If I may?"

*Saint Peter clears his throat*

"That. Was. Fucking. Stupid."

While it is a tragic news but come on! It's common sense to check if the gun is loaded or not!

I find it quietly amusing that the picture used to illustrate this poor tool's demise - a tool who liked to pose in front of fast cars and pretty girls - shows him taking a selfie in front of flip-flops and gloves.

It's a shame, but I'm surprised that this kind of thing hasn't happened before.

I'm sorry, but this just made me laugh.

Guy points loaded gun at own head and gun goes off. Gee wiz.

Thank God he didn't kill anyone else with his stupidity.

Stupidity does not justify a death sentence. I know people like to feel good about themselves and all high and mighty compared to lesser people, but this thread just seems really fucking cold to me.

"Good" is all I could think when I read the title.

I don't like photos tbh, and every time I see dumber and dumber people doing the "selfie" thing, to the point where a few months ago there was this girl that took one right next to a huge fire that pretty much wiped a couple dozen houses, but THIS? I mean you can't be that stupid and get away with it.

BathorysGraveland2:
Stupidity does not justify a death sentence. I know people like to feel good about themselves and all high and mighty compared to lesser people, but this thread just seems really fucking cold to me.

I'm not one to usually sympathise with people, but there's going to be a lot more here considering how the guy aimed at himself just to take a dumb picture.

It really worries me when I think of all those people who don't quite appreciate the lethality of weapons going out and buying that one gun they really liked in Call of Duty.

He didn't just point a real gun at his head.

He pointed a real, loaded gun, with the safety off at his head and probably while having the finger on the trigger.

That's really a lot more stupid than just using a real, unloaded gun!

Would have been doubly embarrassing if he was simultaneously pulling a duckface. Ouch!

Zhukov:

tzimize:

Zhukov:
First rule of gun safety: Do not point the weapon at anything that you do not wish to put a hole in.

Second rule of gun safety: Be aware of the weapon's state of readiness at all times. (i.e. Loaded/unloaded, cocked/uncocked, safety on/off.)

Do they not teach people this shit anymore? Or are some people just too dumb to listen to what is essentially just common sense?

Honestly, while rules are good and all...one should think that it wouldnt be necessary to remind people to not point deadly weapons at themselves.

Exactly!

I mean, okay, someone wants to break the first rule in order to take a "cool" photo of themselves. Fine. I don't approve, but whatever, it's his gun.

But you'd think that the very first consideration upon deciding to do this would be something along the lines of, "Gosh, better make sure there aren't any bullets in this thing. Maybe turn the safety on while I'm at it."

I don't know much about guns, is it possible there was a round left in the chamber? I'm told that happens with some gun models, and while it would still be pretty irresponsible of him to point the gun at anything but the floor it'd at least explain his crazy actions somewhat.

All in all this got me to thinking: guns traditionally require some professional training before their owners can handle them 100% correctly, right? Implying that operating a gun safely is just plain hard. So if you're then going to sell those guns to any sane person, wouldn't it make sense to put in some serious idiot-proofing? My lawnmower stalls if it hits anything harder than a branch. My chainsaw requires both hands on the handle to run. Surely similar measures could be installed in commercially available guns?

BathorysGraveland2:
Stupidity does not justify a death sentence. I know people like to feel good about themselves and all high and mighty compared to lesser people, but this thread just seems really fucking cold to me.

What universe do you live in? Stupidity practically is a death sentence.

Too dumb to not hop down into a subway line to pick up your dropped phone? Death Sentence.

Too dumb to put your dang phone away in traffic? Death Sentence.

Too dumb to not point a loaded gun at your F'n head for a photo shoot? Death Sentence.

Too dumb... it goes on and on.

I have a hard time generating sympathy for people hurting themselves with their own stupidity. I save my sympathy for those people hurt by others' stupidity, and a little for those left behind when stupid people off themselves.

Zhukov:
First rule of gun safety: Do not point the weapon at anything that you do not wish to put a hole in.

Second rule of gun safety: Be aware of the weapon's state of readiness at all times. (i.e. Loaded/unloaded, cocked/uncocked, safety on/off.)

Do they not teach people this shit anymore? Or are some people just too dumb to listen to what is essentially just common sense?

Given that private gun ownership is apparently illegal in Mexico gun safety lessons probably are a bit rarer. This kind of thing happens a lot as I understand even with people who think they're being careful. Like someone who takes the clip out but neglects to see if there was already a bullet in the chamber. I've heard of at least one guy who died joking around pointing a gun at his head like that.

Most people do some stupid things at 21, at that age you don't always think things through and you've still got some residual of that teenage feeling of invincibility. I'm sorry this guy died so pointlessly, and my heart goes out to his poor family.

bliebblob:
I don't know much about guns, is it possible there was a round left in the chamber? I'm told that happens with some gun models, and while it would still be pretty irresponsible of him to point the gun at anything but the floor it'd at least explain his crazy actions somewhat.

All in all this got me to thinking: guns traditionally require some professional training before their owners can handle them 100% correctly, right? Implying that operating a gun safely is just plain hard. So if you're then going to sell those guns to any sane person, wouldn't it make sense to put in some serious idiot-proofing? My lawnmower stalls if it hits anything harder than a branch. My chainsaw requires both hands on the handle to run. Surely similar measures could be installed in commercially available guns?

I can answer these questions.

1) All guns have a chamber that holds a round. Removing a magazine doesn't clear the chamber of the bullet likely already in there (if it had been primed for firing or had automatically fed after being fired). Clearing this chamber (or double-checking it to ensure its cleared) is the very first thing you do after removing a magazine.

2) Operating a gun safely is simply easy. Cleaning them might be a little harder, but operating them is easier than a chainsaw or lawnmower - there are Vastly fewer moving parts to be worried about. There are techniques to learn to get the best performance, sure, but you can get by with two rules: Don't point the barrel anywhere you wouldn't want a bullet to go; and check the weapon's status (loaded/empty) when you pick it up or put it away. Do those two things and you're as safe as you can be.

3) Civilian firearms typically DO have safety measures. Their triggers, for one, typically require a heavier pull than is strictly necessary for one. Unless modification or special orders are made to reduce this (done because for precision shooting a trigger needs to have the least resistance possible - else it throws the shot off). Nearly all guns also come with a safety - a button or lever that makes the gun inoperable until turned off. There really isn't anything else you can do.

An idiot played with a gun thinking it was a toy. And then he died at the hands of his own stupidity. To be honest, I laughed.

I feel bad for him for the reason that he was trying to pose for picture, doesn't deserve death.
On the other hand, Tvtropes has a section called "to dumb to life" if I remember correctly, I would not be surprised to to see this in the real life sub heading.

Always assume a gun is loaded until you verify it is not. Until you verify you do not touch the trigger or point it at anything you do not want a hole in. Anyone that doesn't follow that simple rule and kills themselves gets no sympathy from me. If they do not follow those rules and hurt or kills someone else deserves to rot in prison. Ignorance is no excuse.

Zhukov:
First rule of gun safety: Do not point the weapon at anything that you do not wish to put a hole in.

Second rule of gun safety: Be aware of the weapon's state of readiness at all times. (i.e. Loaded/unloaded, cocked/uncocked, safety on/off.)

Do they not teach people this shit anymore? Or are some people just too dumb to listen to what is essentially just common sense?

Hmmm...what list is that? I've always heard it as

1) The weapon is always loaded
2) Don't point the muzzle at anything you don't want to shoot

Followed by trigger discipline and being sure of the target and what's behind it.

bliebblob:
I don't know much about guns, is it possible there was a round left in the chamber? I'm told that happens with some gun models, and while it would still be pretty irresponsible of him to point the gun at anything but the floor it'd at least explain his crazy actions somewhat.

On weapons fed from a detachable or internal magazine (unless it's firing from an open bolt), a cartridge is chambered, that is, taken out of the magazine and placed at the end of the barrel, before the weapon is fired.

Removing the magazine won't remove that cartridge, because it isn't in the magazine anymore. Apparently this is a very common mistake. Some weapons are designed with a magazine disconnector so that they won't fire without a magazine. You shouldn't bet your life on it, though.

Having said that, it's very easy to work the action to make sure that there's no cartridge left chambered. You can do that as many times as you want to make sure. Pick the gun up, check it. Hold the gun for a bit, check it, in case you've reloaded and forgotten. Leave the gun unattended for any time, check it, in case someone has loaded it without you knowing. Only takes getting things wrong once to end up a news item people mock for stupidity.

thaluikhain:

Zhukov:
First rule of gun safety: Do not point the weapon at anything that you do not wish to put a hole in.

Second rule of gun safety: Be aware of the weapon's state of readiness at all times. (i.e. Loaded/unloaded, cocked/uncocked, safety on/off.)

Do they not teach people this shit anymore? Or are some people just too dumb to listen to what is essentially just common sense?

Hmmm...what list is that? I've always heard it as

1) The weapon is always loaded
2) Don't point the muzzle at anything you don't want to shoot

Followed by trigger discipline and being sure of the target and what's behind it.

Those were the rules I followed at the range, which are pretty much Zhukov's first rule worded differently.

Good. If he's so stupid that he thinks that pointing a gun at himself for the sake of getting in on the latest trend is a good thing to do then I'm glad to see him leave the gene pool.

Scarim Coral:
While it is a tragic news but come on! It's common sense to check if the gun is load or not!

Why do we call it common sense? is it really common anymore? sadly I think I know the answer.

bliebblob:

Zhukov:
[snip]

I don't know much about guns, is it possible there was a round left in the chamber? I'm told that happens with some gun models, and while it would still be pretty irresponsible of him to point the gun at anything but the floor it'd at least explain his crazy actions somewhat.

Yeah, with any magazine-fed weapon I can think of you can load the weapon, chamber a round, then remove the magazine and still have the weapon primed to fire that one round. The round is safely removed by re-cocking the weapon, causing it to eject as if it were a spent casing.

Still, outside of a mechanical failure, he'd have still needed to turn the safety off, aim the weapon and pull the trigger to off himself like that.

thaluikhain:

Zhukov:
First rule of gun safety: Do not point the weapon at anything that you do not wish to put a hole in.

Second rule of gun safety: Be aware of the weapon's state of readiness at all times. (i.e. Loaded/unloaded, cocked/uncocked, safety on/off.)

Do they not teach people this shit anymore? Or are some people just too dumb to listen to what is essentially just common sense?

Hmmm...what list is that? I've always heard it as

1) The weapon is always loaded
2) Don't point the muzzle at anything you don't want to shoot

Followed by trigger discipline and being sure of the target and what's behind it.

Heh. Those are the same rules, just worded differently and with the order swapped.

Admittedly, yours are probably easier to remember.

bliebblob:

I don't know much about guns, is it possible there was a round left in the chamber? I'm told that happens with some gun models, and while it would still be pretty irresponsible of him to point the gun at anything but the floor it'd at least explain his crazy actions somewhat.

All in all this got me to thinking: guns traditionally require some professional training before their owners can handle them 100% correctly, right? Implying that operating a gun safely is just plain hard. So if you're then going to sell those guns to any sane person, wouldn't it make sense to put in some serious idiot-proofing? My lawnmower stalls if it hits anything harder than a branch. My chainsaw requires both hands on the handle to run. Surely similar measures could be installed in commercially available guns?

Sidmen:
I can answer these questions.

1) All guns have a chamber that holds a round. Removing a magazine doesn't clear the chamber of the bullet likely already in there (if it had been primed for firing or had automatically fed after being fired). Clearing this chamber (or double-checking it to ensure its cleared) is the very first thing you do after removing a magazine.

2) Operating a gun safely is simply easy. Cleaning them might be a little harder, but operating them is easier than a chainsaw or lawnmower - there are Vastly fewer moving parts to be worried about. There are techniques to learn to get the best performance, sure, but you can get by with two rules: Don't point the barrel anywhere you wouldn't want a bullet to go; and check the weapon's status (loaded/empty) when you pick it up or put it away. Do those two things and you're as safe as you can be.

3) Civilian firearms typically DO have safety measures. Their triggers, for one, typically require a heavier pull than is strictly necessary for one. Unless modification or special orders are made to reduce this (done because for precision shooting a trigger needs to have the least resistance possible - else it throws the shot off). Nearly all guns also come with a safety - a button or lever that makes the gun inoperable until turned off. There really isn't anything else you can do.

....That's not...entirely true. A few weeks or months ago, I heard of a new invention coming out called a "smart gun". Basically, it's a gun with an electronic lock or some-such on it that can't be operated by anyone except for a person wearing an electronic bracelet. I think it was covered by the Daily Show with Jon Stewart, as well as a few other news outlets.

Problem was American conservatives blasted it and mocked it, trying to make it look and sound like shit, even though the simple act of needing a special key to a special lock on a deadly weapon (besides locked gun cases, 'cause those don't always work out) is a pretty genius idea. Heck, if we ever embrace transhumanism, we could have those "keys" (read: microchips) grafted on the inside of your hand/s, so you and only you could operate your gun.

Besides, you could read all the stories you want about kids blowing themselves or others away and it could be argued that not only were they able to unlock mommy or daddy's locked gun case or cabinet, but that they were smart enough to know how to operate the safety AND that they were strong or persistent enough to squeeze the trigger hard enough to cause the gun to go off. The way I see it, "too many" safety regulations tend to be "not enough", at least not enough to truly feel safe. And yes, I know there's no such thing as "absolutely, perfectly safe", but there has to be a line somewhere between "not safe enough" and "so safe, it's cumbersome" for many people to enjoy......
Hope that made sense...

EDIT: Whoops! Forgot about the topic for a sec!

Really, I can't garner any sympathy for him, but I can for any family he left behind. That was an incredibly stupid move, as anyone could tell you, but I at least can hope he's in a better place. ...Though...if you think about it...if guns are illegal in Mexico in the first place, how'd his friend get a hand on one? :/

Zhukov:
Do they not teach people this shit anymore? Or are some people just too dumb to listen to what is essentially just common sense?

However stupid you think humanity can be, there will someone out there who can surprise you, they might even surprise themself, briefly.

Anyway, I was always taught that the first rule of handling firearms is that the guns is always loaded and should always be treated as such too. It seems an obvious lesson.
Given the state and sourcing of guns in Mexico this could be for any number of reasons, I would put mechanical failure of some kind up there as well as the owner being dumb, it's unlikely he got that thing from a store with a warranty registration card.

I feel sorry for his family but I don't think we've lost the cure for cancer here.

All I can say is: Whoopsie.

Anyway gun safety 101 (i.e. check if the gun is loaded etc.) doesn't really apply here as it wasn't his gun and it's possible he never operated one in the first place - it may not be obvious what to do/not to do or even how deadly that thing is in the first place.

What applies here is gun safety 100 - don't touch a gun if you don't know anything about it.

But people have been doing this kind of shit since forever, nothing new here really.

Dominic Crossman:
he was trying to pose for picture, doesn't deserve death.

I'd agree a few years ago before the retarded Facebook selfie craze. Today... I'm not so sure.

LG Jargon:
A few weeks or months ago, I heard of a new invention coming out called a "smart gun". Basically, it's a gun with an electronic lock or some-such on it that can't be operated by anyone except for a person wearing an electronic bracelet.

The problem is that any such measures make the gun less reliable. There's a ton of things that may go wrong and result in the gun not detecting your bracelet. The point of a gun is to be ready when it's needed so this is quite bad. Furthermore if the gun does not fail, it is still possible for someone else to shoot you with your own gun if the gun is close enough to your hand.

But most importantly, even if all the new guns had this kind of safety, there are still tens of millions of guns in the world without this feature so it's not solving anything. Worse, the owner of such a (less reliable) gun can face an enemy with a traditional (more reliable) gun so there's very few positives here.

JET1971:
Always assume a gun is loaded until you verify it is not.

And even then, treat it like it is loaded just to be safe. Especially if you're using a magazine-fed weapon that can have a round in the chamber even if it's not actually loaded. You shouldn't point a gun at anything unless you actually want to shoot it.

This is kind of tragic, but frankly it's hard to have any sympathy for the guy. When you're ignoring the most basic rules of gun safety - hell, when you're ignoring simple common sense - it's hard to feel like it's anything other than natural selection taking its course. Condolences to his family, of course, but if the guy was this dumb he was probably going to end up accidentally killing himself sooner or later anyway.

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