Friday Box-Office: Expendables Can't Beat Week-Old Turtles, Raccoon

Friday Box-Office: Expendables Can't Beat Week-Old Turtles, Raccoon

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Cartoon heroes pummel action guys at the box-office

Michael Bay's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles reboot took a 60% plunge from last weekend, but that was still enough to place both it and Disney/Marvel's holding-strong Guardians of The Galaxy well ahead of would-be rival Expendables 3, which opens with the lowest box-office of its franchise.

The failure of Expendables will likely be blamed on the high-profile leak of the completed film to piracy torrent sites several weeks before its release, but the fact that both TMNT and Guardians are occupying the majority of higher-priced 3D and large-format theaters is almost certainly a factor along with apathy among its older-skewing audience for a PG-13 rating. In fact, the grosses of the two CGI-heavy family-friendly scifi films are so close that some analysts are speculating that Guardians could actually equal or overtake the Turtles to reclaim the #1 spot.

Meanwhile, two other new releases, buddy-comedy Let's Be Cops and young-adult dystopian adaptation The Giver were both met by disinterest, with many blaming the heavy media presence of the Ferguson police-department scandal for audience rejection of a comedy about two men who impersonate police officers to pull pranks and meet girls.

Box-office prognosticators will now turn their eyes to next week, with focus likely to surround Robert Rodriguez's Sin City: A Dame To Kill For. The long in coming sequel was not expected to do big returns, but the math may have changed with news that the first teaser for Quentin Tarantino's hotly-anticipated western The Hateful Eight will be attached exclusively to some screenings of the film.

Source: Deadline

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I don't know about anyone else but I'm definitely going to see Sin City 2. It hits theaters the day after my birthday, I loved the first movie. To add that a look at another Tarantino movie is attached is just the buttermilk icing on the red velvet cake. It's like everything in the world I love is begging me to come to the movie theater for the first time in...some time.

Also, Expendables 3 bombing isn't much of a surprise. After the forced Chuck Norris jokes in the second one, anyone I talked to who liked the first said they weren't gonna bother with the 3rd.

Wow, I hadn't considered that the problems in Ferguson could have an affect on the box office. That is really unfortunate for those guys. I had a decent laugh at the trailer, but like many comedies I was left wondering if I had just seen all the best bits of the movie. That's much closer to the reason why I won't be going to the cinema to see it.

I think the leak hurt the Expendables quite a lot, certainly and TMNT's audience was partly composed of the same nostalgic adults that would probably gone to see that movie too. You know if they hadn't already watched it online a few times before then.
Let's Be Cops viewership being affected by the Ferguson's riots, well that's just really bad luck.

As for The Giver meh, it doesn't seem like many Young Adult films are doing very well these days, unless you're the Hunger Games.

rees263:
Wow, I hadn't considered that the problems in Ferguson could have an affect on the box office.

In complete seriousness, I doubt that 99.9% of the movie going public considers it either. That kind of justification is what I would call a studio flail, find a justification, any justification for why the low budget, long shelved but suddenly released buddy comedy and the Hunger Games band wagoner are box office duds.

Much like Expendables 3, 1 and 2 weren't very good and this one's been deliberately tamed down, but consumer apathy is entirely down to piracy bro, totally them pirates with their rum and and their ADSL lines.

This is no different to EA dreaming up reasons when one of their big releases doesn't sell as well as hoped (#cough# Dungeon Keeper innovated too much).

If Expendable 3 comes out on DVD/BluRay with a 15 cut I'd probably get it then and watch it with the aid of beer and pizza, but I can't be bothered with going to the cinema for it.

I enjoyed both the first and second films. Perhaps more than others as I didn't even try to take them seriously. That and being able to see many of the action movie stars of my youth all together was worth the price of admission.

Ex3 though. Ex3. Why did I not go to the cinema to see Ex3? The article already said it. PG-13.

I do not pay to watch PG-13 movies. I don't pay at the Cinema, I don't pay to rent them, I don't pay to buy them on Blu-Ray. I wait until they show up on HBO, Cinemax or Starz or the rare case on Netflix, and only then will I watch them.

As a kid and teenager I couldn't wait to grow up so I could finally go see all these 18/R rated movies on my own, I still got to watch a few as my parents would 'vet' them first and decide if they thought they were suitable for my young self and/or my younger sister to see. Then Hollywood ran out of ideas and decided to start copying everyone else, or rebooting older movies in a PG-13 format for mass appeal. That was when they stopped seeing my cash.

It's probably for the best, the movie really isn't any good. It's by far the worst of the series and i'm starting to dread what would happen if they made a 4th movie. If only they had hired a decent director, then it might have been good, but i guess they couldn't afford it and we ended up with a guy who is terrible at action and some of the worst CG effects i've seen in a while. I really wanted to like this, but damn did they drop the ball this time around.

Dying_Jester:

Also, Expendables 3 bombing isn't much of a surprise. After the forced Chuck Norris jokes in the second one, anyone I talked to who liked the first said they weren't gonna bother with the 3rd.

They actually toned down the 4th wall jokes quite a bit. They're still there, but they worked better. Not as forced.

mirage202:
I enjoyed both the first and second films. Perhaps more than others as I didn't even try to take them seriously. That and being able to see many of the action movie stars of my youth all together was worth the price of admission.

Ex3 though. Ex3. Why did I not go to the cinema to see Ex3? The article already said it. PG-13.

I do not pay to watch PG-13 movies. I don't pay at the Cinema, I don't pay to rent them, I don't pay to buy them on Blu-Ray. I wait until they show up on HBO, Cinemax or Starz or the rare case on Netflix, and only then will I watch them.

Honestly, all it was missing to make it R was the exaggerated CGI blood spatter and fake gore. If that's your thing, then so be it. But there's pretty much the same amount of violence as the other 2 movies.

Overall, I liked it. It felt a lot more structured than the last 2. Bob's review does it justice. I doubt I'll change any minds, but if you are on the fence about it, it's worth seeing.

It's s shame this movie leaked; not for the movie its self but for the fact that it gives them an excuse for it's failure rather than them making an aging star cash machine dressed up as a bland and pointless movie. "It was the internet pirates. Dammed new world of tech, it's not like we are artificially holding these movies in an outdated business model where you drive into/ out of town and pay 7-15 when we could be simultaneously releasing them online for for greater profit."

I hope the warped, marketing-department made "The Giver" adaption crashes ans burns too. What a homogenized lump of fuck that was turned into. I hope Wienstein gets kicked hard for sabotaging "Snow Piercer", one of the best sci-fi movies of the decade.

Story:

As for The Giver meh, it doesn't seem like many Young Adult films are doing very well these days, unless you're the Hunger Games.

The Fault in our Stars did very well considering it had a budget about twice as big as The Room's budget.

it might just be over for the Expendables after this; the series is running on fumes at this point and when your trailer is just rattling off names you've entered self-parody territory. Stallone's attempt to bring back the cheesy 80s flicks has failed. Time to move on.

Blah Blah Blah, TMNT took a plunge in views. Blah Blah Blah, Guardians is still awesome. Blah Blah Blah, Expendables 3 didn't do well. Blah Blah Blah, Let's be Cops and The Giver...

Wait, Wait, Wait.... THERE WAS A GIVER MOVIE?!?!?!

Makabriel:
Snip.

I'm sure I'll love the film when I see it, has nothing to do with the film itself that I refuse to pay for it at the cinema. I just refuse outright to support the trend of making everything PG-13 for mass appeal. Same reason I won't buy certain games from certain publishers that follow the same model.

I didn't enjoy The Purge all that much, yet I went to see it simply because it was an adult theme aimed at adults, not an adult theme watered down for the little nutsack goblins to watch. Did the same with the sequel.

I like what I like and if a company wants to broaden the appeal at the expense of my custom then so be it, I wont see/play the product and they wont see my money.

No surprise there, long before it's release imdb was filled with reviews due to the leak, most of them negative. Personally i lost interest after the first one, a bunch of old school action stars gathering in one movie seemed exciting at first, but in reality it wasn't all that good and apparently it only went downhill with the sequels.

direkiller:

Story:

As for The Giver meh, it doesn't seem like many Young Adult films are doing very well these days, unless you're the Hunger Games.

The Fault in our Stars did very well considering it had a budget about twice as big as The Room's budget.

That's because John Green has such a huge following on tumblr, because the feels. I have the book in my 'to read' pile, and I do enjoy vlogbrothers. I'm just stating the most likely cause for FiOS to have done well.

So...I take it The Giver isn't very good?

It's a shame, because I enjoyed the book.

It probably ended up like 'The Road'.
The lack of ambiguity as to who the people are killed part of the core point.

So is TMNT still beating Guardians?

I think this means that they need to cast Dwayne Johnson in the 4th one. As the villain. Contrived a way for everyone to come at him one by one, and have him hit each of em with his signature, WWE era moves. In all seriousness, can you imagine The Rock hitting Terry Crews with a DDT, kipping up, and then catching Lungren with the spinebuster. Pop up again as Jet Li comes flying through the air, catch Li across his shoulder, and slam him down with a samoan drop. Stare down Statem, and drop him with a back elbow as Statum comes running in, and then bury Couture through a nearby table with a Rock Bottom before staring down Stallone, then giving him the "just bring it" taunt.

Surely to goodness if you put even half of that in the trailer, it'd put asses in the seats.

Johnny Novgorod:
So is TMNT still beating Guardians?

It seems a "too close to call" race for that at the moment. We'll find out Sunday.

Story:
As for The Giver meh, it doesn't seem like many Young Adult films are doing very well these days, unless you're the Hunger Games.

The Maze Runner looks like a good candidate for doing well. I mean I haven't read it but I have a friend that read it which means it's got a chance...I guess. But then again Mockingjay is just around the corner...

Bolo The Great:
It's s shame this movie leaked; not for the movie its self but for the fact that it gives them an excuse for it's failure rather than them making an aging star cash machine dressed up as a bland and pointless movie. "It was the internet pirates. Dammed new world of tech, it's not like we are artificially holding these movies in an outdated business model where you drive into/ out of town and pay 7-15 when we could be simultaneously releasing them online for for greater profit."

I hope the warped, marketing-department made "The Giver" adaption crashes ans burns too. What a homogenized lump of fuck that was turned into. I hope Wienstein gets kicked hard for sabotaging "Snow Piercer", one of the best sci-fi movies of the decade.

This is one time though that i actually agree that the leak did significantly damage its box office. Not because the folks that pirated it didn't pay for it (they were never going to see it in theaters anyways) but because the movie is terrible.

Films like this rely on getting out there and making all their money in the first 2 weeks and they'll do an incredibly short theatrical run. They do this with films they know aren't good since they know that once people start talking about it the numbers are going to tank. But since this one got out early in large numbers the negative word of mouth has been going around for weeks before it even sold its first ticket.

I do agree though that its depressing that the studio will surely just whine about pirates and keep releasing the same crap rather than try and increase the quality of their films.

tdylan:
I think this means that they need to cast Dwayne Johnson in the 4th one. As the villain. Contrived a way for everyone to come at him one by one, and have him hit each of em with his signature, WWE era moves. In all seriousness, can you imagine The Rock hitting Terry Crews with a DDT, kipping up, and then catching Lungren with the spinebuster. Pop up again as Jet Li comes flying through the air, catch Li across his shoulder, and slam him down with a samoan drop. Stare down Statem, and drop him with a back elbow as Statum comes running in, and then bury Couture through a nearby table with a Rock Bottom before staring down Stallone, then giving him the "just bring it" taunt.

Surely to goodness if you put even half of that in the trailer, it'd put asses in the seats.

Better yet, have the Rock and Steven Seagal as joint villains, and part of their evil plan involves them moonlighting as chefs on an aircraft carrier.

Seagal "What's that smell?"

The Rock "Can't you see I'm COOKING!"

*Massive Fight scene begins*

As for my circle of movie going peeps, we skipped this one due to the downgrading to PG-13. Not because we ae into gore, but because most of the time Hollywood does this, they replace 'realistic' action with shaky-cam and try to make the movie more appealing to teens.

From Bob's review there wasn't shaky cam, so if it wasn't for Sin City coming out, I'd prolly check this one out next weekend.

walrusaurus:

Bolo The Great:
It's s shame this movie leaked; not for the movie its self but for the fact that it gives them an excuse for it's failure rather than them making an aging star cash machine dressed up as a bland and pointless movie. "It was the internet pirates. Dammed new world of tech, it's not like we are artificially holding these movies in an outdated business model where you drive into/ out of town and pay 7-15 when we could be simultaneously releasing them online for for greater profit."

I hope the warped, marketing-department made "The Giver" adaption crashes ans burns too. What a homogenized lump of fuck that was turned into. I hope Wienstein gets kicked hard for sabotaging "Snow Piercer", one of the best sci-fi movies of the decade.

This is one time though that i actually agree that the leak did significantly damage its box office. Not because the folks that pirated it didn't pay for it (they were never going to see it in theaters anyways) but because the movie is terrible.

Films like this rely on getting out there and making all their money in the first 2 weeks and they'll do an incredibly short theatrical run. They do this with films they know aren't good since they know that once people start talking about it the numbers are going to tank. But since this one got out early in large numbers the negative word of mouth has been going around for weeks before it even sold its first ticket.

I do agree though that its depressing that the studio will surely just whine about pirates and keep releasing the same crap rather than try and increase the quality of their films.

I know moviebob liked this one better than the others but according to the fans of the first two films this was less to their 'taste' (and i use that term loosely). It wasn't as aggressively stupid and awful it was, instead, on the bad end of mediocre. It ended up pleasing no one.

The point I'm making is that leaks wouldn't be a problem if movie distribution was actually brought into the 21st century. The Multiplex is on artificial life support, or at least the old version of it. Cheaper movies will mean people see more films at release which means that drivel like Ninja Turtles will no longer have a captive audience of people who only watch the 2 or 3 'event' films a year with the biggest borrowed name recognition and marketing.

Films don't NEED to be in cinemas at all anymore. They are already on HDDs. You can't swim against the tide forever like the music industry keeps trying to.

Bolo The Great:
The point I'm making is that leaks wouldn't be a problem if movie distribution was actually brought into the 21st century. The Multiplex is on artificial life support, or at least the old version of it.

I think a part of the problem is that much of the world isn't "into the 21st century." There are still many places in "the great 1st world country that is the USA," that use dial up, or piss poor DSL. I know, because I work in the IT department of a home health agency, and we constantly deal with remote offices that "have to make do" with DSL connections, that just kill productivity when trying to access patient data that operates under the assumption that you'll be downloading it via a T1 connection.

It makes me think of a Jimquisition episode in which he says something to the effect of "publishers want all of the money, or none of it." The example being that if a publisher felt their game wasn't going to do "Call of Duty numbers," it wasn't worth making a game that catered to a niche audience, like X-COM: Enemy Unknown. Though games like X-Com and Payday 2 have been successes, publishers look at them and say "yeah, well they weren't Call of Duty level successes, so those types of games aren't worth making."

I think it's something similar with the movie distribution method: "If we move it into the 21st century, there are people out there whose money we won't be able to get. And we can't have that. So let's keep banging our heads against the wall trying to get people into theaters for 3-D and IMAX." And of course, there are no doubt lobbyist for IMAX and 3-D greasing some wheels, because it's in their best interest to keep movies from moving forward.

I'm a fan of the first 2...well, OK, the second Expendables movie (saw the first one again last night. Not bad, but had some serious issues). I'm not seeing Expendables 3 in theatres for one reason. It's not because of the PG-13 rating. It's because every review I've read says that the older stars minus Sylvester Stallone are missing for a fair chunk of the movie. To me, one of the things I enjoy about The Expendables is seeing the older action stars back in their element, and to have them missing for a fair chunk, to be replaced by actors with little to no action experience is disappointing, to me.

I still might see it on DVD, though, because Harrison Ford and Mel Gibson.

thebobmaster:
I'm a fan of the first 2...well, OK, the second Expendables movie (saw the first one again last night. Not bad, but had some serious issues). I'm not seeing Expendables 3 in theatres for one reason. It's not because of the PG-13 rating. It's because every review I've read says that the older stars minus Sylvester Stallone are missing for a fair chunk of the movie. To me, one of the things I enjoy about The Expendables is seeing the older action stars back in their element, and to have them missing for a fair chunk, to be replaced by actors with little to no action experience is disappointing, to me.

I still might see it on DVD, though, because Harrison Ford and Mel Gibson.

Harrison Ford might as well not be in it, he does nothing memorable, as in i literally can't remember what he does in the movie other than the last 5 minutes. Mel Gibson, while the only one (other than Banderas) who seems to be making an effort has basically nothing interesting to do. I'd rather watch paint dry then watch expendables 3 a second time.

 

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