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Gamers Show Appreciation With #welovegamedevs

The #welovegamedevs hashtag is a chance for gamers to show appreciation to creators.

After voice actors, game developers are the celebrities of the video game industry. As such, they are the targets of praise and criticism, mostly criticism. After a considerably tumultuous week in the games industry, The Guardian's Keith Stuart asked gamers to take a moment to thank the creators of their favorite games with the #welovegamedevs hashtag.

The tag started early this morning and was trending in the US within three hours, before most of the country had started their day. Developers like Insomniac have shown their appreciation for the tag, and even Sony has gotten in on the hashtag. The tag has also split off to the #welovegames tag as well.

If you're a fan of any particular development companies or individual developers in the games industry, maybe take a moment to tweet some love. Twitter puts players in connection with creators and plenty of people use this to lob criticisms and harassment at devs. Now seems like a perfect time to show our appreciation to the people that make the games we enjoy.

Keith Stuart, who started the tag after some controversy sparked this past week in the games industry, is the games editor for The Guardian.

Source: Twitter

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You're kidding me right? This is ... this ... AAAAAAAH, I'm saving it for the other thread. As for this particular topic: Good for those devs that do have a heart. And I hope we all take this chance to show The Fine Young Capitalists some love as well, because they more than earn it at this point.

PRo-Tip: COMMENTERS, save it for the other thread. Might I suggest everyone use this as a template to begin their comment:

I [USERNAME] object to the misrepresentation of the controversy that sparked this hashtag and will discuss it here: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.858347-Zoe-Quinn-and-the-surrounding-controversy

Just a thought.

We, the gamers, should start another tag...Like, i don't know...
How about #wehatecorruptjournalists ? Too big...Need some ideas, people!
#wehateunethicaljournalists?

Absolutely despicable. The Escapist knows of the controversy, is willing to mention the controversy, is willing to make a news report about a twitter tag (but somehow not about #4chan4woman and #4chan4women)

But posting about the controversy is somehow above them because THAT is tabloid bullshit? I don't feel like saving this for the other thread.

Video games journalism, if you want us to love you, you had better earn it first.

Mike Hoffman, this is an appalling excuse for journalism, and thanks to you the Zoe thread will probably rocket up to 4000 replies about why this is simply wrong.

How exactly is this news, but the controversy isn't?

Has The Escapist really gotten this bad?

Whilst it's great that people "Love" devs, others are a bit more choosy about who they devote themselves to.

Threw in a couple of tweets myself, mentioning the likes of Mike Bithell, Hideki Kamiya and Hideo Kojima as well as companies like Rare, Atlus, Firaxis (who even favourited it :3) and even the "Big Three" of Nintendo, Sony and Xbox.

I may complain about these companies from time to time, but they've made a lot of stuff that I've really enjoyed, and hell, gotten me through the odd tough time in my life, so it's nice to see them celebrated for once.

"after some controversy sparked this past week in the games industry" Is that really all we're getting here. *sigh*

Well i do love me some game developers. The hardworking guys at Insomniac seem like a decent bunch, as do Naughty Dog. But this seems to be a bit of a reaction to things partly caused by some indie developers running their mouthes again, most notably Phil Phish. Let's she how much he appreciates gamers:

"Seriously, shut the fuck up about Fez 2. never going to happen. you don't deserve it."

This follows a week of unrelated tweets from Fish in which he attacked the behavior of gamers, calling them "husks" that "deserve the corrupt games industry" some seem to think we operate in.

But do most game devs love us? We know they love each-other. And we CERTAINLY know they love the press ; )

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING, ESCAPIST?

Are you doing this on purpose, or have you managed to miss the biggest thread that's blighted this site all year?

If you're doing this on purpose, then I <3 you for it and would join in the festivities if I had Twitter. If you genuinely don't expect what's going to happen next... I don't have words.

Nice attempt Mike, Yes we love game developers for their work. Without them there would be no games to play.

Tat said, not all developers are the same and not all developers behave equally. We love game development. Developer is a person and I reserve my opinion on each separately as a person. Just making something we enjoy is not a personality, nor a person.

Hey, let's take a good spirited and happy message and turn it negative.

Stay classy Escapist.

Ronack:
You're kidding me right? This is ... this ... AAAAAAAH, I'm saving it for the other thread. As for this particular topic: Good for those devs that do have a heart. And I hope we all take this chance to show The Fine Young Capitalists some love as well, because they more than earn it at this point.

PRo-Tip: COMMENTERS, save it for the other thread.

Rebant:
Absolutely despicable. The Escapist knows of the controversy, is willing to mention the controversy, is willing to make a news report about a twitter tag (but somehow not about #4chan4woman and #4chan4women)

But posting about the controversy is somehow above them because THAT is tabloid bullshit? I don't feel like saving this for the other thread.

Video games journalism, if you want us to love you, you had better earn it first.

Mike Hoffman, this is an appalling excuse for journalism, and thanks to you the Zoe thread will probably rocket up to 4000 replies about why this is simply wrong.

lacktheknack:
WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING, ESCAPIST?

Are you doing this on purpose, or have you managed to miss the biggest thread that's blighted this site all year?

If you're doing this on purpose, then I <3 you for it and would join in the festivities if I had Twitter. If you genuinely don't expect what's going to happen next... I don't have words.

For those of us not in the know, could somebody who is aware of more details about this particular controversy provide a link to where I can find out some basic info? I tried googling "Game Developer Controversy" but it turns out there are a lot of those.

EDIT: I have been informed the name connected to this controversy is "Zoe Quinn" for anybody else wondering.

Falterfire:

For those of us not in the know, could somebody who is aware of more details about this particular controversy provide a link to where I can find out some basic info? I tried googling "Game Developer Controversy" but it turns out there are a lot of those.

Yes, I'm horribly confused myself. I read the article and thought "Hey, that's pretty cool". But apparently Escapist is doing something evil by posting this article.

Falterfire:

For those of us not in the know, could somebody who is aware of more details about this particular controversy provide a link to where I can find out some basic info? I tried googling "Game Developer Controversy" but it turns out there are a lot of those.

You're better off not knowing, trust me, it's not worth it. No matter what everyone else in that massive Off-Topic thread might think.

OT: I don't have Twitter, so I can't really get in on this. Oh well.

Uh...

I love Metal Gear Solid and think Hideo Kojima is brilliant #welovegamedevs ???

Falterfire:

For those of us not in the know, could somebody who is aware of more details about this particular controversy provide a link to where I can find out some basic info? I tried googling "Game Developer Controversy" but it turns out there are a lot of those.

In short: Gaming journalists are too closely involved with developers and publishers in order to stay objective, neutral and unbiased. The entire media black-out surrounding Zoe Quinn is the straw that broke the camel's back. The big argument comes from people who keep using said scandal to silence everything, not even considering everything that has happened and has come to light since then to maintain the status quo of game journalists being glorified bloggers.

WITH ALL OF THAT SAID, this isn't the right thread to be discussing all of this. We need to keep showing love to those developers and those publishers that do keep on doing the right thing and who have helped gamers, minorites and everyone by entertaining, educating and more. Yes, you can use this thread as another example of how gaming journalism is a farce, but that doesn't mean that there is no heart to it. We love a lot of devs, and we support them. Show them some love!

Might I suggest everyone use this as a template to begin their comment:

I [USERNAME] object to the misrepresentation of the controversy that sparked this hashtag and will discuss it here: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.858347-Zoe-Quinn-and-the-surrounding-controversy

Just a thought.

lacktheknack:
WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING, ESCAPIST?

Can I just say that your profile picture REALLY annoys me! Like it gives me a headache just looking at it.

They aren't stupid. They just have a little more sense than every fool who has made a comment on the subject in the past few days, a black hole from which there is no escaping! Ignore the storm like a sensible person. Batten down the hatches, it will blow over.

Falterfire:

For those of us not in the know, could somebody who is aware of more details about this particular controversy provide a link to where I can find out some basic info? I tried googling "Game Developer Controversy" but it turns out there are a lot of those.

EDIT: I have been informed the name connected to this controversy is "Zoe Quinn" for anybody else wondering.

It started with this: http://thezoepost.wordpress.com/

It's a long-ass read, but worth it. There is a tl;dr section though.

Though it seems instead of focusing on all the emotional abuse Quinn put the guy through, people are focusing on the sex bits. Can't say I'm surprised, but still. Really wish that part wasn't being so ignored.

Falterfire:

For those of us not in the know, could somebody who is aware of more details about this particular controversy provide a link to where I can find out some basic info? I tried googling "Game Developer Controversy" but it turns out there are a lot of those.

EDIT: I have been informed the name connected to this controversy is "Zoe Quinn" for anybody else wondering.

Makabriel:

Yes, I'm horribly confused myself. I read the article and thought "Hey, that's pretty cool". But apparently Escapist is doing something evil by posting this article.

Well, let Andy Shandy explain.

Andy Shandy:

- Man makes blog post about a woman cheating on him with 5 guys (not at once, as far as I'm aware) all of whom are related to the games industry in some way

- One is a journalist, Nathan Grayson. His coverage of her game extends to 3 words "Powerful Twine darling" in a list of 50 Greenlight games. And an article which mentions her as part of that game jam that went down the shitter.

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Beyond that, I'm not even sure any more. Some are shouting about journalistic integrity (in which case you'd figure the focus would be on Nathan Grayson not Zoe Quinn), some about censorship, some about "slut-shaming". But for a variety of reasons, this is the place to discuss it, since rightfully or wrongfully, nowhere else does.

Ronack:
I [USERNAME] object to the misrepresentation of the controversy that sparked this hashtag and will discuss it here: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.858347-Zoe-Quinn-and-the-surrounding-controversy

Just a thought.

You're the first reply to this thread. You should probably edit this link into your post up there, to make it super-easy for people to find (and to avoid even more confused people).

Irridium:

Falterfire:

For those of us not in the know, could somebody who is aware of more details about this particular controversy provide a link to where I can find out some basic info? I tried googling "Game Developer Controversy" but it turns out there are a lot of those.

EDIT: I have been informed the name connected to this controversy is "Zoe Quinn" for anybody else wondering.

It started with this: http://thezoepost.wordpress.com/

Though it seems instead of focusing on all the emotional abuse Quinn put the guy through, people are focusing on the sex bits. Can't say I'm surprised, but still. Really wish that part wasn't being so ignored.

well many of us were trying to focus on the implications on the gaming press.

Men can't undergo emotional abuse, saying that makes you an MRA sexist pig. I would like to see that aspect focused on too, its pretty awful. But the line of argument that has been perused is that this is private. And so those who are troubled by this are trying to express the public interest of exposing incestuos relationship between press and developer. Every issue raised has been swatted away as hatred and conspiracy.

Bolo The Great:

Irridium:

Falterfire:

For those of us not in the know, could somebody who is aware of more details about this particular controversy provide a link to where I can find out some basic info? I tried googling "Game Developer Controversy" but it turns out there are a lot of those.

EDIT: I have been informed the name connected to this controversy is "Zoe Quinn" for anybody else wondering.

It started with this: http://thezoepost.wordpress.com/

Though it seems instead of focusing on all the emotional abuse Quinn put the guy through, people are focusing on the sex bits. Can't say I'm surprised, but still. Really wish that part wasn't being so ignored.

well many of us were trying to focus on the implications on the gaming press.

Men can't undergo emotional abuse, saying that makes you an MRA sexist pig. I would like to see that aspect focused on too, its pretty awful. But the line of argument that has been perused is that this is private. And so those who are troubled by this are trying to express the public interest of exposing incestuos relationship between press and developer. Every issue raised has been swatted away as hatred and conspiracy.

And that's how abuse like this thrives, by keeping this shit private. It's why 99% get away with this and never face any sort of repercussions for their actions. If it's kept private, 99% of the time they'll just go on to abuse someone else. The only way to get an abuser to answer for what they did is to make it public, so everyone can see how horrible they really are. Otherwise, as I said, they won't face any repercussions, won't change, and will just do it to someone else.

The instructions are poorly worded and confuse me. Can we use #welovegamedevs if we are not journalists having sex with game devs?

Also good scoop Escapist, this was a quality story.

A nice gesture, but ultimately futile as it's too late for damage control.
Trust has been severed for many. The question now is "How many?"

Given the recent controversy I'd like to show my appreciation to all the developers of my favorite games I don't know because they have no interest in any life as a media whore. So thank you to a lot of the people at Atlus, NIS, X-Seed, Namco Bandai, and too many indies to count: thank you for doing your job and not looking for your 15 minutes for anything but the quality of the games you make.

This is painfully transparent damage control, packaged in a nice inoffensive fluffy happy package. You're a gamer right? How could you NOT like gamedevelopers?

Oh right, when they're morally corrupt, insular, insulting, censor criticism, lash out at their customer base, and cover up a massive and damaging story.

It's sad when AAA devs come out of this looking far preferable to this indie cluster***. At least AAA developers have PR departments that try to prevent them from saying and doing stupid things. These developers (and the game journalists who are in bed with them, figuratively of course) have completely flown off the handle, and now they expect us to just bow down and worship them.

This is NOT a time to be happy with the games industry.

We're fucking gamers. Why on Earth would we not love game devs? At what point during this "recent controversy" has anyone ever said they hate game devs?

This is obfuscation of the highest calibre. It's an attempt to redirect public attention from this instance of corruption and nepotism by claiming it's an anti-developer hysteria and hate-filled harassment campaign. The Escapist should be ashamed of their role in it; Mister Tito especially for his contradictory editorial stance and his refusal to publish something which is newsworthy and hand-wave it as a "recent controversy."

Surprisingly, most of us actually want some reform. If a senator slept with a journalist at the New York Times without either side disclosing their relationship (and even if the journo didn't specifically write articles about the subject), there'd be a scandal. But it's fine for that to happen in this industry? And anyone who gets enraged over it is branded as cruel and misogynistic?

I and many others aren't planning on letting the issue die down peacefully and allow these pitiful and blatant attempts to redirect public attention succeed. Even if it manages to dim the spotlight for a few days or weeks, this topic won't be dropped.

CosmicCommander:
We're fucking gamers. Why on Earth would we not love game devs? At what point during this "recent controversy" has anyone ever said they hate game devs?

This is obfuscation of the highest calibre. It's an attempt to redirect public attention from this instance of corruption and nepotism by claiming it's an anti-developer hysteria and hate-filled harassment campaign. The Escapist should be ashamed of their role in it; Mister Tito especially for his contradictory editorial stance and his refusal to publish something which is newsworthy and hand-wave it as a "recent controversy."

Surprisingly, most of us actually want some reform. If a senator slept with a journalist at the New York Times without either side disclosing their relationship (and even if the journo didn't specifically write articles about the subject), there'd be a scandal. But it's fine for that to happen in this industry? And anyone who gets enraged over it is branded as cruel and misogynistic?

I and many others aren't planning on letting the issue die down peacefully and allow these pitiful and blatant attempts to redirect public attention succeed. Even if it manages to dim the spotlight for a few days or weeks, this topic won't be dropped.

I don't share your outrage however your opinion is apt. This situation could have been handled in a much more professional matter. However, keep in mind (not excusing mind you)that Mr. Tito and others are just humans and not PR specialist. Very few people have the training to properly handle these situations.

I would say that this has further lowered my trust in the industry and gaming journalism except that I have lost all respect for their integrity long ago. I take everything reported or handled as "half-truths" or agenda-driven moves.

Oh boy, this article REALLY wasn't a good idea, especially with this part in particular:

Mike Hoffman:
Twitter puts players in connection with creators and plenty of people use this to lob criticisms and harassment at devs.

...and this a well:

Keith Stuart, who started the tag after some controversy sparked this past week in the games industry, is the games editor for The Guardian.

The way that this is worded makes this entire thing seem like a poor attempt at redirecting people's attention away from the Zoe Quinn controversy while simultaneously demeaning her critics, which is only going to server to piss people right the fuck off even more than they already were. Seriously, they would've been better off not even passively mentioning the controversy in this article.

On Topic: This is overall a good thing still. Right now, people could really use some positivity, so a reminder that we are all gamers and love to geek out about our favorite games / devs may be just what some of us need. Remember kids: RULES OF NATURE! XD

Captcha: "filthy dirty mess" Le sigh, even Captcha knows.

Sleep with your boss, get Greenlit. #welovegamedevs

Wow. And who exactly thought this would be a good Idea right now? Got any other oil barrels you want to toss into the flames?

I would hope it goes without saying that you can love some game developers without loving others. I don't feel any particular need to lavish love on some of the developers of games on Steam that Jim Sterling has highlighted on the Jimquisition, for example.

(Even if I was on Twitter, which I'm not.)

I think it's also fairly clear that some of the vitriol (and worse) that gets thrown at game developers is wildly out of proportion or undeserved. David Vorehaar getting death threats for changing the timing on a few guns in COD:BOII, for one example.

I think these are reasonable and relevant points we ought to be able to agree on.

Is the timing questionable?

...I'm not going to touch that question with a ten-foot-pole, thanks.

Repress dissent and fuck your boss for publicity. #welovegamedevs.

Ooooh my God, there are so many opportunities here. What should I go for? The low-hanging fruit like Xiado up there? Sarcastic positivism? Maybe I should just write a giant post about how gamers had been berated and condemned by their media for a while now, so this is kinda like karmic justice.

Meh, I think I'll just go with this: The Gaming industry done fucked up, and this is obvious redirection and damage control. Which is sad, actually. I'd love it if our community was just naturally this positive. If we just started shit like this because, hey, we're all gamers in the end, and our community exists to celebrate that. Instead, we breed resentment towards each other for the stupidest reasons. And before anyone gets on me about that comment - everyone is implicit there. Gamers, devs, and journalists alike have done nothing but sow infighting and vitriol in the gaming culture. More stuff like this could have helped to repair that.

Too bad it's obvious attempt to put out fires. Even worse, it's just fanning the flames instead.

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HAS PLANET GONE MAD!

This shit is still going? Good god this shit is getting fucking annoying can't we just go one minute without mentioning that event just one minute please.

The Escapist has really done everything it can to offload any credibility, they're refusing to be honest while pumping moral lectures

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