Diablo III's Massive Patch 2.1 Releases Tomorrow - Finally Adds a Ladder Mode

Diablo III's Massive Patch 2.1 Releases Tomorrow - Finally Adds a Ladder Mode

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Diablo III's 2.1 patch is its biggest free update ever, adding a plethora of new game modes, items, class balances, and zones.

One thing that Diablo III fans have been asking Blizzard for since pretty much the game was released, was a variation of Diablo II's "ladder mode" - where players could create fresh, level 1 characters, and race to progress them as far as possible within a short amount of time. Tomorrow, those fans will finally get their wish, as the game's massive 2.1 patch will launch, bringing with it the "Seasons" game mode (which is essentially ladder mode) as well as a wealth of additional changes and additions.

It is worth noting that Blizzard did state that while all the Seasons infrastructure will launch with 2.1, the first Season won't actually start until a few days later.

Along with Seasons, the second major addition in 2.1 is "Greater Rifts". Unlike the regular Nephalem Rifts which were introduced in Reaper of Souls, greater rifts are a kind of "endless dungeon" that should give even the most dedicated Diablo players a substantial challenge. Each rift has a time limit, and if you manage to complete it within said limit, you'll get a key to an increasingly difficult higher level rift.

The spoils of running Greater Rifts in lieu of regular Nephalem Rifts are legendary gems - powerful gems with unique affixes, that you can actually upgrade as you progress through each Greater Rift level.

Two new zones: The Cesspools and The Vault (where you can finally fight the leader of those annoying treasure goblins: Greed), dozens of class balance changes, and plenty of minor quality of life improvements round out the game's biggest free update since launch.

Check out the official Patch notes as well as this nice little roundup from Diablo Fans for more information. Its not known when (or if) all of these changes will make it to the console versions of the game.

And before you ask, no, the always-online requirement has not been removed, and most likely never will.

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And before you ask, no, the always-online requirement has not been removed, and most likely never will.

This is why the console version of the game is the superior version of the game. Local coop and no online requirement. Imagine.... Blizzard gets attacked by someone with a huge DDoS attack... and I can still play the game with my friends right next to me on my PS4.

OMG STEVEN BUT IS THERE GOING TO BE OFF-L

Steven Bogos:

And before you ask, no, the always-online requirement has not been removed, and most likely never will.

DAMN IT

CURSE YOU FOR YOUR POWERS OF PRECOGNITION, YOU EVIL WIZARD. PRAY THAT THINE TOWER IS TALL ENOUGH TO EVADE MY ETERNAL QUEST TO SCALE IT FOR NAUGHT BUT YOUR ETERNAL DAMNATION, FIEND!

OT:
Cool shit, yo. I'll be playing it when I'm not playing the WoD beta, I shupposhe.

Kind of surprised I found out through here and not through my client.

Steven Bogos:
And before you ask, no, the always-online requirement has not been removed, and most likely never will.

No offline mode? Bored now. I guess Blizzard must hate PC gamers.

Blizzard doing great things for the game in free patches.

Every comment about no offline mode.

Yawn.

It's funny how they almost promised it after they removed the online auction house and made a console version which didn't have it, but as soon as reaper of souls came out, their sales probably returned to the point where they stopped caring about it because it wasn't hurting them anymore.

funny all the way to the bank

It is rather funny how the game started as PC exclusive and Blizzard seems to "teasingly shun" the console version by saying "We "probably" won't bring this stuff to the consoles"...yet in every light the console version looks better and better. I've got it for my PS4 and me and my friends are having a great time. I just hope that Blizzard releases the next expansion (or game) on consoles right along with the PC version. Without giving away too big of a spoiler, suffice to say the ending to Reaper of Souls quite clearly leaves it open for another expansion, if not (and actually more likely) another game.

Baresark:

This is why the console version of the game is the superior version of the game. Local coop and no online requirement.

Yup, guess the poor PC owners will just have to make do with having a better Loot System, having no Hackers and getting all their patches way before the console owners do. Clearly inferior compared to the console versions "usable by those too stupid to read system requirements" feature.

Aeshi:

Baresark:

This is why the console version of the game is the superior version of the game. Local coop and no online requirement.

Yup, guess the poor PC owners will just have to make do with having a better Loot System, having no Hackers and getting all their patches way before the console owners do. Clearly inferior compared to the console versions "usable by those too stupid to read system requirements" feature.

Not going to bother debating your preferences on the matter, but what is inferior about the loot system? I've been playing both versions and haven't noticed a difference.

Aeshi:

Baresark:

This is why the console version of the game is the superior version of the game. Local coop and no online requirement.

Yup, guess the poor PC owners will just have to make do with having a better Loot System, having no Hackers and getting all their patches way before the console owners do. Clearly inferior compared to the console versions "usable by those too stupid to read system requirements" feature.

You would be surprised by how often they update on the console. Way more often than any other game I have ever seen on the console. I have not ever cared about "hackers". I don't lose my shit just because someone has decided to ruin their own play experience, they can't hurt mine. I own like 5 console games and most of the games I play are on my PC (I have 593 games on Steam, not saying I have played every single one of them, but I own and have played pretty much every major PC release since 2005). I can read system requirement just fine (love the ad hominem) . I just appreciate how I could play the game when Blizzard was under a DDoS attack or is having system maintenance without a single issue. The online requirement is the worst thing about that game. I only need electricity and I can play with friends. And I get an identical play experience to the PC version (oh no, I have to wait for the ladder matches, I'll survive).

Jadak:

Aeshi:

Baresark:

This is why the console version of the game is the superior version of the game. Local coop and no online requirement.

Yup, guess the poor PC owners will just have to make do with having a better Loot System, having no Hackers and getting all their patches way before the console owners do. Clearly inferior compared to the console versions "usable by those too stupid to read system requirements" feature.

Not going to bother debating your preferences on the matter, but what is inferior about the loot system? I've been playing both versions and haven't noticed a difference.

The new super patch with Seasons may never reach consoles. But unless you are planning to sink 100 hours or more in the game you will never notice the difference.

Baresark:

Aeshi:

Baresark:

This is why the console version of the game is the superior version of the game. Local coop and no online requirement.

Yup, guess the poor PC owners will just have to make do with having a better Loot System, having no Hackers and getting all their patches way before the console owners do. Clearly inferior compared to the console versions "usable by those too stupid to read system requirements" feature.

You would be surprised by how often they update on the console. Way more often than any other game I have ever seen on the console. I have not ever cared about "hackers". I don't lose my shit just because someone has decided to ruin their own play experience, they can't hurt mine. I own like 5 console games and most of the games I play are on my PC (I have 593 games on Steam, not saying I have played every single one of them, but I own and have played pretty much every major PC release since 2005). I can read system requirement just fine (love the ad hominem) . I just appreciate how I could play the game when Blizzard was under a DDoS attack or is having system maintenance without a single issue. The online requirement is the worst thing about that game. I only need electricity and I can play with friends. And I get an identical play experience to the PC version (oh no, I have to wait for the ladder matches, I'll survive).

Actually, the controller interface is quite good and less taxing on your fingers. The inventory interface is worse, but the quick inventory stuff is enough most of the time since the loot in the game is very simple.

The console is the superior version by far:
- No lag, no worries with maintenance or login issues;
- Couch multiplayer;
- Controller is less precise but way more comfortable;

And I am a PC gamer.

If what the people in the comments are saying is true, then Diablo is ironically the only game that plays better overall on consoles then PC (even shit ports are better on PC...).
That is kinda sad :P

I do wonder whether to get the game though.

Still always online? Still not interested.

Baresark:

And before you ask, no, the always-online requirement has not been removed, and most likely never will.

This is why the console version of the game is the superior version of the game. Local coop and no online requirement. Imagine.... Blizzard gets attacked by someone with a huge DDoS attack... and I can still play the game with my friends right next to me on my PS4.

There are drawbacks, my fellow peasant. We appear to be receiving new content like this on a delay if at all. Still, good enough for me, though tell me, you seem like someone who would know, have blizzard confirmed whether they're gonna patch ultimate evil edition at all? I want me some of dat sweet templar action.

Aeshi:

Baresark:

This is why the console version of the game is the superior version of the game. Local coop and no online requirement.

Yup, guess the poor PC owners will just have to make do with having a better Loot System, having no Hackers and getting all their patches way before the console owners do. Clearly inferior compared to the console versions "usable by those too stupid to read system requirements" feature.

Hackers? I've never seen any, but I always play solo or couch co op. How did the console version end up having more hackers than than the PC version? What do they do?

And also, I hate to give you points, but I'm guessing you can buy RoS seperately instead of having to buy the game again to get it, right?

I've read on the forums that PS4 and XboxONE will get the 2.1 update, but last gen consoles like PS3 and XBOX360 won't be getting the update because "it's too different/hard for blizzard" (yet they still release D3 ROP ultimate evil edition on PS3 and XBOX360 right before the 2.1 update :/)

>Massive, free update to game with no sub fee
>Ton of new content, including the oft-requested ladders and leaderboards
>More challenging endgame content for organized groups
>Shitload of bugfixes and buffs to nearly every class
>Huge fix to AI/pathfinding for minions
this thread:
>"but but... muh offlines!!!!"
>MFW:

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lol @ the reliable always online complainers. http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2011/08/08

OT: Nice. not quite as awesome as Loot 2.0 but still a great patch. Those buffs are really good. Barb might actually be playable now, rocket DH builds are much better, and sacrifice is no longer literally the worst skill in the game, among other things. The buffs to arcane mines and death blossom are cute, but the problem with those spells is the way the work not the numbers, so they need to be replaced, not buffed.

AuronFtw:
>Massive, free update to game with no sub fee
>Ton of new content, including the oft-requested ladders and leaderboards
>More challenging endgame content for organized groups
>Shitload of bugfixes and buffs to nearly every class
>Huge fix to AI/pathfinding for minions
this thread:
>"but but... muh offlines!!!!"

major_chaos:
lol @ the reliable always online complainers. http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2011/08/08

Not applicable. I doesn't matter what the content is, since I'll not buying it; Because online!
And no, I'm really not going to buy it. I haven't bought a single always online (hell not even online verification) game.
I'm not constantly online either, don't even have a smartphone.

The heart of the matter is that I want to enjoy my games when I choose to, even if it's 10 or 20 years down the line.
Ironically, always online server will not always be online ,)

If you can find enjoyment in these games, kudos. I can't.
Oh, I won't be buying the next madden either, will you contribute money to that..series?

I wonder how long it will be before the patch comes to the Xbox One and the PS4? They have already announced that we would get the patches, as well, but I would imagine it would be a delay so it could be adjusted for the consoles, perhaps?

Also, I am having a blast with D3:UUE on my One. There was a serious learning curve as my awesome Demon Huntress was suddenly getting her backside handed to her at Torment 1, but I have since improved her considerably, and I am loving it! The Marauder armor is the way to go!

Vendor-Lazarus:

Not applicable. I doesn't matter what the content is, since I'll not buying it; Because online!
And no, I'm really not going to buy it. I haven't bought a single always online (hell not even online verification) game.
I'm not constantly online either, don't even have a smartphone.

The heart of the matter is that I want to enjoy my games when I choose to, even if it's 10 or 20 years down the line.
Ironically, always online server will not always be online ,)

If you can find enjoyment in these games, kudos. I can't.
Oh, I won't be buying the next madden either, will you contribute money to that..series?

That is all well and good I understand where you are coming from, but then if you have not interest or intention to play an always online game than why are you here? People have been complaining about it nonstop since the game was released. Can people who just want to talk about the game do so without half the thread being full of people repeating the same complaints over and over please?

people complain about being always online but truly, how many of us are playing a singleplayer game and then have a internet tab in the background for music etc or steam? ive never understood why steam has never got shit, dont get me wrong, i like steam, but you have to purchase stuff from it online and have to be online to receive updates and stuff, so what gives?

zerragonoss:

Vendor-Lazarus:

Not applicable. I doesn't matter what the content is, since I'll not buying it; Because online!
And no, I'm really not going to buy it. I haven't bought a single always online (hell not even online verification) game.
I'm not constantly online either, don't even have a smartphone.

The heart of the matter is that I want to enjoy my games when I choose to, even if it's 10 or 20 years down the line.
Ironically, always online server will not always be online ,)

If you can find enjoyment in these games, kudos. I can't.
Oh, I won't be buying the next madden either, will you contribute money to that..series?

That is all well and good I understand where you are coming from, but then if you have not interest or intention to play an always online game than why are you here? People have been complaining about it nonstop since the game was released. Can people who just want to talk about the game do so without half the thread being full of people repeating the same complaints over and over please?

Most likely because we fear every game becoming always online unless we speak out.
Add the fact that some of these games used to be able to manage just fine without online at all.
We are still gamers, we just like our ..freedom? options open? so to speak.
I'm not saying no online, just not only online.

Just like with my madden example (a poor one, I know, sorry) we understand that the more people continue to buy these games, more of the same will follow.
We want to make people aware of the consequences of apathy (bad word, bad poster, shame on me).

I used "we" instead of "I" heavily in this post. I don't speak for anyone but me though I know there are at least some others out there.

Thanks for listening!

AuronFtw:
>Massive, free update to game with no sub fee
>Ton of new content, including the oft-requested ladders and leaderboards
>More challenging endgame content for organized groups
>Shitload of bugfixes and buffs to nearly every class
>Huge fix to AI/pathfinding for minions
this thread:
>"but but... muh offlines!!!!"
>MFW:

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Most updates of importance will be on this edition; The ones that made this uninspired game into a fun, although very simple, action game.

The other stuff only matters if your life is the game. The micromanaging of characters really only matters if you have placed hundreds and hundreds of hours in the game and that's not what an average player will do. All classes are pretty much playable in a equivalent manner unless we are talking very high Paragon levels.

The extra stuff would be great if the game was better, but although it is addictive, D3 really is quite dumb after you've seen all the powers and monsters.

The truth is that most people would never need (nor want) more Diablo 3 than what they have on consoles. And they have it offline, with couch coop (the best way to play this game, seriously)and a much more comfortable controller (the dodge option alone makes a big difference in gameplay).

Also: most mechanical improvements (like pathfinding and some balance issues) has been patched to the consoles. And I repeat, those things do not make any difference unless you are very deep into the game. I played the game since launch in the PC (and in the consoles) for about 200 hours or so and I have seen a pathfinding issue once. Playing offline is more beneficial to the player than minor updates, no doubt.

My progress with all characters happened mostly at the same pace and none of them seemed unplayable. The game itself was unplayable in its first iteration, but that's another topic :).

Vendor-Lazarus:

Oh, I won't be buying the next madden either, will you contribute money to that..series?

No, because I don't give a rat's ass about sports of any kind. That aside, I fail to see the relevance of that question.

Doclector:

Baresark:

And before you ask, no, the always-online requirement has not been removed, and most likely never will.

This is why the console version of the game is the superior version of the game. Local coop and no online requirement. Imagine.... Blizzard gets attacked by someone with a huge DDoS attack... and I can still play the game with my friends right next to me on my PS4.

There are drawbacks, my fellow peasant. We appear to be receiving new content like this on a delay if at all. Still, good enough for me, though tell me, you seem like someone who would know, have blizzard confirmed whether they're gonna patch ultimate evil edition at all? I want me some of dat sweet templar action.

I'm going by the past on that one. I know they do patches for game and loot balancing. I don't know for sure if ladder mode is coming. They seem content to try and make unique content for each version. For instance, the whole nemesis thing is only on the console as I understand it. I'm not really interested in the Ladder Mode myself, but it would be nice for the people who were. The patches do come slower than they do for the PC. If anything, the PC players are stuck kind of beta testing the patches since they can change the PC version on the fly. Then the consoles get them a little later, or at least that is how it was on Diablo 3 for the PS3. I don't know for sure with the UE Edition. I didn't get Reaper of Souls on the console, I decided to wait till I picked up a PS4 and see what they did with that.

Steven Bogos:

And before you ask, no, the always-online requirement has not been removed, and most likely never will.

Well then fuck you too blizzard. My dollars will stay securely in my wallet. Really at this point, even f they were to release Diablo 3 or Diablo 4 without an online mode, I don't think I'd but it just out of principle. Yeah I'm pretty sure Blizzard's lost a customer for life.

major_chaos:

Vendor-Lazarus:

Oh, I won't be buying the next madden either, will you contribute money to that..series?

No, because I don't give a rat's ass about sports of any kind. That aside, I fail to see the relevance of that question.

I don't give a donkey's hocks about sports either, nice to know there are more.
Besides that though, that single statement in my post was a very bad example and I regret using it.

AuronFtw:
>Massive, free update to game with no sub fee
>Ton of new content, including the oft-requested ladders and leaderboards
>More challenging endgame content for organized groups
>Shitload of bugfixes and buffs to nearly every class
>Huge fix to AI/pathfinding for minions
this thread:
>"but but... muh offlines!!!!"

Free? No, only if I purchase the expansion to a game I already paid premium dollar for and was broken for the entire first year of play. Haven't gone back since I quit. I made the mistake of looking beyond Blizzard for gaming and found out they are not the end-all to video-games and now have much better things to play than their overpriced garbage they used to unapologetically lie to all of their customers about, and all the "minor" changes they made to make people who already invested heavily into the game obsolete over-night in the hopes they would re-invest. No, I look for games to play, not for "money-milking simulators" or having to decipher what they really meant before changing their minds, 1984 MiniTrue style...
I understand endless farming, but got bored of playing an alpha I paid 60 bucks for and had to pay another 40+ to fix. A hacked version of Torchlight 2 was better bug-wise...

By the way, how is PvP in Diablo 3? So much for quite a few promises they've ignored in that respect... I'm still waiting, but as you can see, I don't hold much hope. The funding stopped there, at least from my end, and Blizzard will never be a worthwhile company after my D3 experience. Pretty sure that's the opposite of what they were going for, which shows just how hard they failed on that project.

gonzo20:
people complain about being always online but truly, how many of us are playing a singleplayer game and then have a internet tab in the background for music etc or steam? ive never understood why steam has never got shit, dont get me wrong, i like steam, but you have to purchase stuff from it online and have to be online to receive updates and stuff, so what gives?

I think Steam gets a pass from a lot of people because at least you can still play in offline mode if their servers are unavailable. Sure, you can't install any games you own without logging on, but you can still play most games you've currently got installed.

As much as everyone hates DRM, Steam at least makes it semi-palatable. The sales probably go a long way to sugaring the medicine.

Ajarat:

AuronFtw:
>Massive, free update to game with no sub fee
>Ton of new content, including the oft-requested ladders and leaderboards
>More challenging endgame content for organized groups
>Shitload of bugfixes and buffs to nearly every class
>Huge fix to AI/pathfinding for minions
this thread:
>"but but... muh offlines!!!!"

Free? No, only if I purchase the expansion

Wrong! Your game is automatically patched via Blizzard desktop launcher, and you get the benefit of all the bugfixes, class tweaks and pathfinding improvements even in the base game (most of those pathfinding issues were aimed at WD, which is a class playable in the base game). The patch is free, in every sense of the word.

to a game I already paid premium dollar for and was broken for the entire first year of play.

I'm actually quite sorry you paid for the game on release, as it was a total shitfestival in 2012. Loot was terrible, legendaries were terrible, auction house was terrible, story was terrible, class viability was terrible, difficulties were skewed to *heavily* favor ranged classes, list goes on. But the loot 2.0 patch (that was also a free patch, similar to this one) came out and fixed... pretty much all of those problems. By axing the AH and introducing "smart loot" that favored your class, the majority of items you got were upgrades. Even a character who had been playing for a year by the time loot 2.0 came out saw a steady stream of upgrades off the bat, because class-tailored loot was an amazing change. They also increased the droprate of yellows and legendaries, so instead of getting majority blues, occasional yellows, and never oranges, you got majority yellows, occasional oranges and even a few greens (which I'd never seen a single one of before loot 2.0 hit). This, again, increased the quality of the loot acquired, and with the ongoing project to give unique legendary effects to every legendary in the game, many of those are now cornerstones of powerful and varied builds for each class.

The story, unfortunately, is still an absolute joke. Everything from the butterfly princess to the "master tactician" who watches you single-handedly stomp his entire army into the dirt and taunts you the whole time just reeked of *terrible* writing, and now that the majority of the game is actually pretty good now, the story sucking so much sticks out like a sore thumb. The Reaper chapter story is a slight improvement, mostly because Malthael shuts the fuck up and doesn't actively taunt you the whole time, serving more as a villain in the shadows, letting you learn about his history and motivations through collected journal entries before the final showdown. It doesn't come close to rectifying the total joke-on-wheels plot that encompasses the previous acts, but it's a nice step away from it.

I came back to the game in 2014, after getting the base game free (so I never felt "betrayed" by blizzard when d3 sucked at launch, I just didn't like the game and stopped playing). The loot 2.0 changes, the difficulty level changes (content scales by character level now, offering a much more customizable challenge), and the removal of the auction house catapulted the game's quality up to what I had come to expect from Blizzard games - I was able to finish leveling all my characters to 60, and played quite a bit on my Wizard to gear him up and see how the "endgame" played. Based on the amount of fun I was having, I decided to shell out $40 for the expac. After leveling a crusader to 70, and all my original characters as well, I settled on WD as my new main and played hundreds of hours more - joining groups to speed clear bounties, farm mats for legendary crafting materials, and even participating in the great Rift It Forward community as a runner.

The game has changed. It's an entirely different product than the shlock you saw at launch. So much of what made it bad was gutted out entirely, and replaced with superior systems (or no systems, in the case of the AH), and the introduction of bounties + rifts added a lot of replayable content, enjoyable solo or with a group. Diablo 3, in its current state, is every bit the game Diablo 2 was - the only noticeable difference in gameplay is freedom in skill/rune changing removing the requirement for additional character grind that D2 had. Some people found that kind of theorycrafting gameplay rewarding, where they'd try to take a fresh character up through Baal to see if a weird build would work, but those were definitely in the minority, and everything else that made D2 fantastic can now be found in d3 (farming, legendaries, group content). There's even PvP, for the few people who thought d2 PvP was ever any good (although they're fucking delusional).

If you want to hold a shitty launch against a game for all time, that's up to you, but keep in mind the game is nothing like that anymore. Since you already own it, why don't you try it out? You don't need to buy the expac to see the majority of the great changes they've already made. The expac just offers some new wallpaper and bigger numbers, the core game is the same even at 60.

You make a strong case, Auron. I would take your advice and try it out, I would have out of curiosity, except like I mentioned, I have quite the back-log of games I want to play on Steam and what-not. In this day of age, there is SO MUCH competition for our money and so many options for titles (to the point that many are being offered as F2P), that there is no reason to ever go back to a company once burned. IMHO, this is a reality the industry would like to pretend doesn't exist, and that fact will eventually bury these Triple-A developers so long as they act like they can do whatever they want because they think they have some sort of "Monopoly."

Perhaps when the kids are a little older, I'll reinstall to let them have at it, much like how we as kids grew up on the original 2 Diablo games.. THAT experience, I would never deny my children. So ok, I concede Auron. There IS a good use for D3, especially if, as you say, a much better game than I unfortunately remember. (Still though, as for me, I have yet to play Diablo 2... GASP! The wife IS playing it right now, actually.)

I really do hope that the consoles do wind up with the better overall D3 experience. I will feel less guilty about enjoying PoE or GD or TQ or MH or any other superior ARPG's that don't cost anywhere near the price of D3. I think the console players should at least have a little meat on the bones they get thrown.

 

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