DirectX 12 Will be Exclusive to Windows 10

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DirectX 12 Will be Exclusive to Windows 10

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Windows 7 and 8 users will be able to upgrade to Windows 10 for free for a year following its launch.

Late last year, we ran a story that suggested Windows 7 would not support DirectX 12. While Microsoft was quick to refute the report back then, now it has come out and confirmed our suspicions: not only will DirectX 12 not support Windows 7, but it also won't support Windows 8. It'll be exclusive to Windows 10.

The news comes out of Microsoft's big Windows 10 event in Redmond, where it also revealed a juicy bit of info for Windows 7 and 8 users who are, understandably, a bit peeved at the exclusivity. Current 7/8 users will be able to upgrade to Windows 10 absolutely free of charge, for a period of one year following it's release.

Microsoft has clarified that this doesn't mean you'll only get Windows 10 for a year - as long as you upgrade from 7 or 8 to 10 within the first year, the new OS is yours to keep forever. I gotta admit, that's pretty generous, as it seems like the vast majority of Microsoft's regular, private consumers would be running either Windows 7 or 8 at this point.

Don't be expecting DX12 games to be rushing out the doors any time soon, though, as Microsoft stated that while some existing graphics cards will be able to get something from the new API, you'll need to buy a new, DX12-enabled card to get the full benefit of it.

Lastly, Microsoft announced that alongside Fable Legends, a number of formerly Xbox One-exclusives will be making their way to gaming PCs around the world.

So all-in-all, a little bit of bad news balanced out with some other, pretty good news. Looks like an exciting year is in store for PC gamers.

Source: Rock, Paper, Shotgun

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Well this will only affect me if for some odd reason Fallout 4 was DirectX 12 exclusive, which I highly doubt because many developers still use DirectX 11 for all things. Even then, Fallout 4 would not convince me to jump to a new operating system either way, but Microsoft is really betting a lot on this new OS which isn't good if it bombs.

On the Xbox One front, I'm not really liking how many exclusives are coming out on both. I mean granted, it's great for the consumers as more people get access to the game, provided they upgrade in Fable Legends' case, but what's the point in buying an Xbox One if the exclusives show up on PC?

Neronium:
Well this will only affect me if for some odd reason Fallout 4 was DirectX 12 exclusive, which I highly doubt because many developers still use DirectX 11 for all things. Even then, Fallout 4 would not convince me to jump to a new operating system either way, but Microsoft is really betting a lot on this new OS which isn't good if it bombs.

On the Xbox One front, I'm not really liking how many exclusives are coming out on both. I mean granted, it's great for the consumers as more people get access to the game, provided they upgrade in Fable Legends' case, but what's the point in buying an Xbox One if the exclusives show up on PC?

There isn't one. Personally, i think that both the PS4 and Xbox One are completely superfluous in this day and age. There is nothing these two consoles can do that a gaming PC can't do better, and the handful of exclusives they each desperately cling to is the only thing keeping them alive.

Steven Bogos:

There isn't one. Personally, i think that both the PS4 and Xbox One are completely superfluous in this day and age. There is nothing these two consoles can do that a gaming PC can't do better, and the handful of exclusives they each desperately cling to is the only thing keeping them alive.

To each their own I suppose. In all honesty, Sony still releases some of their IPs when they remember they exist from time to time. As long as Ratchet and Clank is coming out, I still have a reason to get a PS4 in all honesty. I'm just waiting for my Ape Escape 4 or at least some sort of Ape Escape HD collection/remake of some kind, as that franchise is still insanely popular in Japan. For me there are still a lot of games that are exclusive on consoles that I like, and if Sony would remember that they actually do own more 1st party IPs than a small few then I'd of gotten one by now. (although I am getting one for the Ratchet & Clank remake this year)

Neronium:

Steven Bogos:

There isn't one. Personally, i think that both the PS4 and Xbox One are completely superfluous in this day and age. There is nothing these two consoles can do that a gaming PC can't do better, and the handful of exclusives they each desperately cling to is the only thing keeping them alive.

To each their own I suppose. In all honesty, Sony still releases some of their IPs when they remember they exist from time to time. As long as Ratchet and Clank is coming out, I still have a reason to get a PS4 in all honesty. I'm just waiting for my Ape Escape 4 or at least some sort of Ape Escape HD collection/remake of some kind, as that franchise is still insanely popular in Japan. For me there are still a lot of games that are exclusive on consoles that I like, and if Sony would remember that they actually do own more 1st party IPs than a small few then I'd of gotten one by now. (although I am getting one for the Ratchet & Clank remake this year)

You don't realize it, but you're actually agreeing with me. If these PS4 exclusives were released on PC, would you still buy a PS4? At some point exclusives changed from nice bonuses for supporting a system to titles that console manufacturers hold hostage from the rest of the gaming world.

Steven Bogos:
You don't realize it, but you're actually agreeing with me. If these PS4 exclusives were released on PC, would you still buy a PS4? At some point exclusives changed from nice bonuses for supporting a system to titles that console manufacturers hold hostage from the rest of the gaming world.

See here's what I say about the whole "hold hostage" thing: if it's made by a first party title then that's not holding something hostage as it wouldn't exist otherwise. I find saying that 1st party titles are held hostage is just stupid, and I wish that it wasn't popularized as saying that. Either way, even if they were released on PC it comes into a new problem, and it's that it'd be most likely tied to Steam or some sort of alternate account. I'm a person who prefers to have physical copies of games over digital only ones with DRM for those services. Plus, living in the United States I don't exactly have the luxury of being exempt from EULAs like other countries that actually care about their consumers do.

In the end, I am and probably always be more of a console gamer. I have a decent gaming rig, but there honestly aren't many games that I play on my PC often at all, and besides Bethesda games for mods (mainly to fix the damn games to make them stable) I hardly play games on my PC period. Upon looking at it now, I tend to play more on my 6th generation consoles and below more than my Wii U and PC.

Steven Bogos:

You don't realize it, but you're actually agreeing with me. If these PS4 exclusives were released on PC, would you still buy a PS4? At some point exclusives changed from nice bonuses for supporting a system to titles that console manufacturers hold hostage from the rest of the gaming world.

I have 2 gaming PC's and all last gen consoles and the PS4, even with no exclusives I would get the PS4 simply because for some games it's just easier. Publishers like EA and Ubisoft that can't code for shit on PC are plain easier to deal with on console. Also I like the small PC plugged into my TV that just works, yes I know my computers can do it too but since I work in IT and have to deal with the issues all day I can't always be assed to deal with an issue at home, so will just turn the console on and play a game. Though tbh their most often used as bluray players than gaming machines.

So now Windows 8 becomes truly useless for gamers?

It's kind of good that they realised their error and that they are ditiching that OS, but if Windows 10 sucks(and so help me God if it has integrated ads...) then this will create a lot of problems for gamers.

*sigh*

I remember when Microsoft used to support us.

Sigmund Av Volsung:
So now Windows 8 becomes truly useless for gamers?

It's kind of good that they realised their error and that they are ditiching that OS, but if Windows 10 sucks(and so help me God if it has integrated ads...) then this will create a lot of problems for gamers.

*sigh*

I remember when Microsoft used to support us.

I have Windows 10 preview, to be honest it leaves 8 eating dust and while not quite as good as 7 it gets pretty close. I still prefer 7 but meh, maybe someday Aero will return and rid us of this fisher price looking interface.

I just hope this means the rest of the Halo series is finally making its way to PC.

RicoADF:

Sigmund Av Volsung:
So now Windows 8 becomes truly useless for gamers?

It's kind of good that they realised their error and that they are ditiching that OS, but if Windows 10 sucks(and so help me God if it has integrated ads...) then this will create a lot of problems for gamers.

*sigh*

I remember when Microsoft used to support us.

I have Windows 10 preview, to be honest it leaves 8 eating dust and while not quite as good as 7 it gets pretty close. I still prefer 7 but meh, maybe someday Aero will return and rid us of this fisher price looking interface.

What about the rumours of the integrated ads? Are they true? Is the UI any better?(since trying to get to C:/ using 8 is needlessly convoluted with Metro)

I know it sounds petty, but that is the one point where I draw the line and tell MS to go fuck themselves.

Wait... So you're saying I'd be able to upgrade my Windows 7 to Windows 10 for free?
It's not just for Windows 8 users?

How well does it run Skyrim?

Wait, what is this about integrated ads?

If there are any... How well does Skyrim run on Linux?

I'm waiting for Gabe Newell to switch from freaking out about Windows 8 to freaking out about Windows 10.

Steven Bogos:

You don't realize it, but you're actually agreeing with me. If these PS4 exclusives were released on PC, would you still buy a PS4? At some point exclusives changed from nice bonuses for supporting a system to titles that console manufacturers hold hostage from the rest of the gaming world.

The only real reason to as why I would buy a PS4 currently is for ESO & other MMOs. Those aren't really being held "Hostage". But they'll probably give me something to do with my friends on PSN. Plus since MMOs can't run mods I don't really see the excitement in playing them on a PC instead.

Xbox One on the other hand I probably want to buy Sunset Overdrive before it becomes free from GWG. Just so I can own that game without having to worry about losing it if or when my GWG would expire on Xbox One. If Sunset Overdrive ever came to Steam I'd probably buy it again.

I don't have a problem owning single player games that I like more than once. But I also intend on eventually buying my future Elder Scrolls & Saints Rows games purely on PC as long as they can have mods & run on a Steam Machine.

In other news Nintendo is holding Bayonetta 2, Devil's Third, & Zombie U hostage!
....
*Insert World's Smallest Violin Here*

RatGouf:
The only real reason to as why I would buy a PS4 currently is for ESO & other MMOs. Those aren't really being held "Hostage". But they'll probably give me something to do with my friends on PSN. Plus since MMOs can't run mods I don't really see the excitement in playing them on a PC instead.

They don't run mods, but they do run addons which many MMO players wouldn't dream of playing without.

I may swap to Windows 10, about half way through month 11. By then, they will have the major kinks worked out, and backtracked on the design choices that have been labeled as "catastrophically stupid".

I am eagerly awaiting the day Linux replaces Windows as the dominant gaming OS and we don't need to deal with this Microsoft monopoly anymore.

ZiggyE:
I am eagerly awaiting the day Linux replaces Windows as the dominant gaming OS and we don't need to deal with this Microsoft monopoly anymore.

Wouldn't we be trading one monopoly for another? I know some versions of Linux is free like Ubuntu. I don't want a dominant gaming OS. I hope they they each become popular enough so that people know they exist and that Microsoft can't hold thing like DirectX12 hostage.

i'd be eager to update my computer to windows 10 and get rid of the annoying windows 8 forever but i suspect that if i do everything i did to even get games working on my pc would be rendered useless

here's hoping they focus on gaming comparability

Seems the escapist is really doubling down on its community by how these articles keep being written... getting pretty irritating as I don't like such heavy pandering (not to mention the support of illegal practices openly or not)... but I'm not one to get all pissy and leave over such things.

Microsoft make mistakes, nothing new.

Steven Bogos:

You don't realize it, but you're actually agreeing with me. If these PS4 exclusives were released on PC, would you still buy a PS4? At some point exclusives changed from nice bonuses for supporting a system to titles that console manufacturers hold hostage from the rest of the gaming world.

Come now we get enough of that already. First party games and third party exclusives (by choice) are not "hostages".
Exclusives have always had one purpose, no change occurred.

Free for a year? Why?

If their plan is a subscription based operating system they can go fuck themselves. No self-respecting gamer will fall for this crap.

This is what's gonna happen if Windows 10 is a subscription based OS. Either people will pirate it in mass numbers, or Nvidia and Intel will adopt AMD's Mantle (Intel is already interested in Mantle). And since Mantle essentially does the same thing as Dx12 we won't be needing DirectX anymore. Developers will embrace it as well since all the GPU manufacturers will be using it and it supports Windows 7 and Windows 8. At that point we may witness the Linux Renaissance.

Well this is definitely good news for me. I was worried about either having to postpone having an OS until windows 10 came out to finish building my PC for fear of having wasted money. But now it sounds like I could buy the cheaper of the two versions ASAP and just upgrade as soon as I'm given the option.

Adam Jensen:
Free for a year? Why?

If their plan is a subscription based operating system they can go fuck themselves. No self-respecting gamer will fall for this crap.

This is what's gonna happen if Windows 10 is a subscription based OS. Either people will pirate it in mass numbers, or Nvidia and Intel will adopt AMD's Mantle (Intel is already interested in Mantle). And since Mantle essentially does the same thing as Dx12 we won't be needing DirectX anymore. Developers will embrace it as well since all the GPU manufacturers will be using it and it supports Windows 7 and Windows 8. At that point we may witness the Linux Renaissance.

For 1 year, you can upgrade from windows 7 and 8.1 to 10 for free. You are inventing things to be outraged about.

I think people need to chill out a bit, everyone always gets so rabid with MS news.

I've been using Win10 since they allowed access, not on my main PC, and as someone that like Windows 7 and doesn't like Windows 8's UI, I can say I will be moving to Windows 10. It works almost the same as Win7, but has more features that I'll use.

Neronium:

On the Xbox One front, I'm not really liking how many exclusives are coming out on both. I mean granted, it's great for the consumers as more people get access to the game, provided they upgrade in Fable Legends' case, but what's the point in buying an Xbox One if the exclusives show up on PC?

Well it's the best DVD player I've ever owned. And blu-ray to as my PS3 decided it didn't like discs anymore and won't give them back without using a screwdriver to open it. I suppose it's potential as a streaming box could be quite high, we'll have to see what they do with this.

Halo is still probably staying xbox only. ):

I'm still skeptical about upgrading from 7 to 10 so I will probably wait until I see if we get games DX12 only or not. We shouldn't because DX11 is now the DX9 of yesteryear aka 90% of games that come out (that are not small budget indies) are on DX11.

With that said..if I can (as a PC only gamer) play X1 games on Windows 10 then I might make the jump as well.

RatGouf:
I'm waiting for Gabe Newell to switch from freaking out about Windows 8 to freaking out about Windows 10.

Steven Bogos:

You don't realize it, but you're actually agreeing with me. If these PS4 exclusives were released on PC, would you still buy a PS4? At some point exclusives changed from nice bonuses for supporting a system to titles that console manufacturers hold hostage from the rest of the gaming world.

The only real reason to as why I would buy a PS4 currently is for ESO & other MMOs. Those aren't really being held "Hostage". But they'll probably give me something to do with my friends on PSN. Plus since MMOs can't run mods I don't really see the excitement in playing them on a PC instead.

Xbox One on the other hand I probably want to buy Sunset Overdrive before it becomes free from GWG. Just so I can own that game without having to worry about losing it if or when my GWG would expire on Xbox One. If Sunset Overdrive ever came to Steam I'd probably buy it again.

I don't have a problem owning single player games that I like more than once. But I also intend on eventually buying my future Elder Scrolls & Saints Rows games purely on PC as long as they can have mods & run on a Steam Machine.

In other news Nintendo is holding Bayonetta 2, Devil's Third, & Zombie U hostage!
....
*Insert World's Smallest Violin Here*

GWG freebies are yours even if your account sub expires, downloaded a bunch in my free trial and still have em.

lol they're doing this again because it worked out so well last time.

Rozalia1:
Seems the escapist is really doubling down on its community by how these articles keep being written... getting pretty irritating as I don't like such heavy pandering (not to mention the support of illegal practices openly or not)... but I'm not one to get all pissy and leave over such things.
.

you know I think its getting pretty obvious that you've got an axe to grind here, like...not only this is about as innocuous as it gets but its ACTUALLY RELEVENT

no scratch that...most stuff relating to the PC is relevant

RicoADF:

I have Windows 10 preview, to be honest it leaves 8 eating dust and while not quite as good as 7 it gets pretty close. I still prefer 7 but meh, maybe someday Aero will return and rid us of this fisher price looking interface.

is that the transparency thing in the design?

fuck microsoft for telling me what I can/cant have on my desktop!!

What kind of irritates me is that if DX12 does get adopted by a lot of developers, it pretty much forces people to upgrade to Windows 10 if you want to continue getting the best performance in games. That being said though, at least Windows 10 looks somewhat decent, and at least we wont have to pay for it.

I will probably take Microsoft up on their offer. When my HDD packs in, I will need to reinstall windows again, so it may as well be Windows 10.

Well I'll take the positive that the upgrade will be free for a year, then the OS is mine for life. Nice.

But yeah I'm with the others who'll wait 11.5 months before upgrading.. I get along fine enough with W7 thanks.

Well that's surprisingly balanced for Microsoft. I mean it's not as good as simply supporting DirectX 12 on multiple OS versions, but people have been predicting that bit of exclusivity since they realized that the number twelve comes after eleven. I'll probably do the upgrade. It's not like I don't still have my Win7 disc if I change my mind.

Neronium:
if it's made by a first party title then that's not holding something hostage as it wouldn't exist otherwise.

considering that this statement is completely false, Mr. Bogos here is correct.

Sigmund Av Volsung:
So now Windows 8 becomes truly useless for gamers?

On the contrary, gamers always benefited from 8. Its different kernel allowed much less microstuter and offered other improvements that gamers like. Its a shame its all wrapped up in such horrible UI. its like having a Ferrari and using the body of Lada. It drives fast but damn does it look ugly doing so.

Rozalia1:

Come now we get enough of that already. First party games and third party exclusives (by choice) are not "hostages".
Exclusives have always had one purpose, no change occurred.

Apperently not enough, because you still dont understand how exclusives harm gaming. and you are correct, there is no change, they always did.

Hekler:

Adam Jensen:

For 1 year, you can upgrade from windows 7 and 8.1 to 10 for free.

Not free. You are forfeiting your windows 7/8 license for it. This is a cost.

[quote="seditary" post="7.869296.21766936"]lol they're doing this again because it worked out so well last time.

Not really the reason im afraid. very likely this is because the other windows would simply not be able to run it without significant updates, just like old GPUs wont be able to run it. this was true when DX10 came out and couldnt be run on XP. big ruckus was made, but the thing was, there was just no way to make DX10 run on XP because XP wasnt capable of it.

Adam Jensen:
Free for a year? Why?

If their plan is a subscription based operating system they can go fuck themselves. No self-respecting gamer will fall for this crap.

I'd be fine if the subscription was $10 a year. I mean, I usually keep OS's for about 10 years anyway, purchasing the OEM versions for $99 or less.

Rozalia1:

Come now we get enough of that already. First party games and third party exclusives (by choice) are not "hostages".
Exclusives have always had one purpose, no change occurred.

In the past those exclusives were in part because of different hardware, which made it hard or even impossible to release them to another consoles.
I think sonic was originally something like a glorified techdemo to show of how fast the sega system can draw.

Today the purpose is only to force players to buy a specific console because they wouldn't be able to play the game otherwise. At least the Sony and Microsoft consoles are to similar in regards of their hardware capabilities for different reasons.
That is pretty much a hostage or blackmail situation.

That is ...... generous of them i must say, messed around a bit with windows 10 in a VM and it was ok, old start menu back ( with live tiles at the side come on MS why ? Just give us the win7 start menu ... Anyway, windows 10 was good i liked it and a free upgrade for all 7/8/8.1 users that not bad in my book. But for 1 year i think is silly, just turn all windows 7-8.1 licences into windows 10 licences and be done with it , make it so any of them are licensed for all 3 OSes. And rarther than selling a copy of windows xxxx whatever why not sell people a general windows licence and they are licensed for any OS they want be it windows 1.0 or windows 10.

EDIT

I think if they change there licence model they would have way less pirated versions and in the long run make more money. I mean limited install, have to reactivate when you change hardware ,500 million different versions of the same os, its all just too complex for the general consumer to deal with.

Sell one OS and sell the stuff that would be in win 10 pro or win 10 enterprise as extras on the store just like apple does with the iLife and iWorks software.

Even better you don't have to support the millions of versions of your OS just one version. People can go into the store and say i want a copy of windows and you get it put it in and install and it works.

Vault101:

you know I think its getting pretty obvious that you've got an axe to grind here, like...not only this is about as innocuous as it gets but its ACTUALLY RELEVENT

no scratch that...most stuff relating to the PC is relevant

Its pretty well known I frown on the piracy/emulation articles going "try it out in these links, its cool... but we're totally not in support of this because we need to cover our arses" articles.

Strazdas:
Apperently not enough, because you still dont understand how exclusives harm gaming. and you are correct, there is no change, they always did.

Clearly as you have forgotten all about my points on that. Ah yes that old chestnut that a company should cater to you someone who isn't a customer. Anyway I've gone through the fact that a lot of games wouldn't have been made/given a chance/supported without the big bad triumvirate of the nWo.

Well than we in agreement on something.

Neonsilver:
In the past those exclusives were in part because of different hardware, which made it hard or even impossible to release them to another consoles.
I think sonic was originally something like a glorified techdemo to show of how fast the sega system can draw.

Today the purpose is only to force players to buy a specific console because they wouldn't be able to play the game otherwise. At least the Sony and Microsoft consoles are to similar in regards of their hardware capabilities for different reasons.
That is pretty much a hostage or blackmail situation.

Hogwash. First party exclusives have always had one purpose and that has not changed. Third party exclusives (Japan) you'll find many still today without the need of any money, contracts, or "threats". Calling first party "hostages" is absurd enough, but third party ones that have nothing stopping them porting it if they wish to? Hilarious.

This reminds me of that Pcmasterace garbage piece Strazdas linked months back which pretended how things are currently is some grand departure from the past (which it wasn't in that case as it was true for decades) to generate more hate.

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