"Rape Game" On Amazon Triggers Anger, Outrage

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Holy balls thats disturbing. Well, just be glad it's a Japanese game and they are all goggle eyed, microscopic nosed cartoon freaks, no doubt with voices like a mouse on helium. At least there is a fair detatchment from reality, so from the above point I would argue that it is 'virtual' sex. Now if it had realistic 'poser' style art, that would be something truly awful as opposed to just goddamn freaky.

This is one of the few situations where I wouldn't blame people to up in about arms about video games. The fact that this game excists at all is pretty desturbing.

Most hentai games = video game version of porn.
This hentai game = video game version of porn that contains rape roleplay.

Where's the problem?

I actually snorted with laughter.
Meh, it's only a game, contrary to popular belief, people can differentiate between games and reality.
Yeah it's sick, but people do have these types of thoughts and games like these help them release in a safe environment instead of on real people.

Why is no one complaining about porn movies with rape fetishes in it?

Has ANYONE on this forum actually played this game? I'm just wondering. Though I have played a few games made by Illusion, I've not played this one. From having played similar games (without the rape aspect) I agree with the many people saying about violent games being similar and that if they're allowed to be sold then why not this.

If anything I think violent games, especially FPSs, are a lot more realistic than this, they're basically a killing simulator where as I wouldn't call H-games like this a sex simulator, the name porn director simulator would be more fitting, they're like a pornographic film that you can control certain aspects of.

Hmm... I'm not entirely suprised, more's the pity. But as there were only two copies (most likely through an insanely obscure provider, not amazon itself), I'm pretty sure that you can't just bash the Japanese games industry for that. Instead, also blame the consumer: for this thing to have been made, there must have been a viable audience for it. It probably didn't even do well, as I have thankfully never even heard of this title. The only reason I can think of to even think about playing this is to see how bad it is, sorta like E.T with badly drawn porn. I dislike hentai on an instinctual level, and simply reading about this rape game crap makes me think higher of the people who make REAL games.

(A note: I dislike hentai and such because it's ridiculous, both in how it's drawn and more importantly how it is written. Uwe Boll, nonwithstanding the fact that he is an evil clown, can write better stuff than these fools. I do like the format of dating sim type games, but the fact that these games are mostly interactive porn clips makes me not play them. And a rape game? Do developers need to hand the bigwigs ways to get even more restrictions placed on mature titles?)

But yeah, why is this politico beating the hate drum without realizing that this game was NEVER INTENDED for sale outside of Japan? The japanese aren't stupid, they know that stuff like this game dosn't fly in the states or Europe. I also think it's a safe bet that there is no English dialouge either.

Long story short: crap game, dumb politico, don't buy it. Nuff' said.

(I do have a cold, so sorry if I sound all evil and stuff... It's the sickness typing.)

Enigmers:
Killing people is fine, but surprise sex is suddenly somehow amazingly offensive?

What's with the human race and its priorities?

What I find more interesting is this quote from the review:

"You start with the mother, Yuuko Kiryuu, whose name is apparently the one thing I always have the pieces to spell when I play Scrabble."
Ahh. Too true.

There is a massive difference between "surprise sex" and rape. If you cant tell the difference you shouldnt go outside unescorted.

From reading the review this isnt a game for gamers and more an interactive spank mag for those with borderline personality disorders.

Quoting from the Something awful review

"Finally, there is wee Manaka Kiryuu. She looks about ten and you get to rape her in her gigantic bed while teddy bears look on. This was certainly the most disconcerting of the rapes in the game. Not only does she look like a child, not only does her room looks like a child's room, but Manaka visibly cries. If you zoom in on her face you can see tears welling and vibrating in her gigantic eye sockets."

Murder is mentioned as justification for child rape simulators. IN many games you do kill legions of people halo/halflife/COD/HL etc. War and death are accepted in society and part of human history. Thats why the army/airforce/navy are allowed to advertise on TV. Peddlers of child pornography cant.

There is a diferrence between playing something with violent action and playing out fantasy child rape scenes whilst getting aroused.

Tiamat666:
I would be very interested in a serious, long term study with the goal to determine the effects of games like these. Critics are quick to be appalled and assume that violence and "rape games" have a bad influence and make people more likely to commit transgressions. While that is entirely possible, maybe games like these can also have a "therapeutic" effect. By appeasing the urges of would-be assaulters and rapists in a virtual world, maybe they would commit less crimes in the real world... more or less like administering nicotine gum to people trying to quit smoking.

But of course, there's also the problem of proliferation. Even if some people with criminal urges would profit from the therapeutic effect of games like these, by their mere existance, these games would also find their way into the wrong hands, possibly fostering the message over time, that things like violence and rape are socially acceptable things to do.

I wonder for how long "rape" themed media exists in Japan, and if rape and other sexual offences are more common there than in other parts of the world.

I cant talk stats on JApanese rape figures but many sex offenders start off with fantasies and media of sexual assault they will get it through friends/internet/make their own. (there is no such thing as child porn, its abuse). This desensitises them and makes them want more and more visceral experiences leading to actual child abuse etc. Its not cathartic at all, its fuel.

That depends on the psychology of the person involved. There was a recent study (I read about it in Psychology Today, but I don't own the mag so I don't recall the study) that discussed the idea that problem sexual deviants are obsessives first and deviants second, they just tend to use Deviant Sex as a means of expressing their obsession. Hence yes, a game like this would magnify the problem in an individual obsessed with Rape, it wouldn't be cathartic, it would make them more and more focused on the one thing that gets them off, Rape. However a person with a healthy sexual mindset could "enjoy" fictional "rape porn" and use it as nothing more than fantasy and it would have no major ill effects unless they focused on it so much it became an obsession.

More things can cause this than just games though. However a "normal" person should find such a product as this horrifying, and if you don't... you might have a problem and may need to seek professional help.

Why would this be fun? Wouldn't they close the company and check all the staff for serious mental problems, I mean this is a fucking rape game, there's gotta be something wrong with the company that put effort into making it. If it was just sex then that would be normal, but a rape game is just too creepy.

I don't see what the big deal is. It's just a game. I told everyone i knew about this and everyone laughed, even the ones that have actually been raped. And you just have to love the Japanese. They have some huge metaphorical balls.

fix-the-spade:

Nihilism Theory:

you cant seriously be judging the whole of japan based upon a game? thats the single most stupid thing ive heard all day.
yes i understand that this game is sick. i have a friend that was raped about a year ago.
but your opinion is that of a fool

Well, it's been developed, advertised and approved for publication without anyone stopping or questioning it. So a fairly large number of people have seen it and considered within social norms, which is pretty scary if you think about it.

having been in japan, i know the social structure is over there pretty well. people do not have social stigmas with pornography or fantasies of any kind. and in japan, games like these are exactly that - fantasies.

japan has almost no crime, and even less sex offenders (my theory is because their view on sex is as liberal as it is), and this lets them have games like these. this is far from the only game of this sort; there is an entire industry based on it over there.

it might be scary for you because you've been raised with the stigma of sex and pornography being "bad", but from what i have seen over there, it fits completely naturally in their social behavior.

I bet he secretly plays that game...

"They have some huge metaphorical balls."

Not by their standards, and they plain don't physically : P

Wow, that's pretty tasteless. But I do have a sneaky urge (ok, wrong word) to check this out (so to speak) just to see the production values. It surely can't be that well-made...can it?

fish food carl:

CantFaketheFunk:
... Japan never ceases to amaze.

Screw that, the human race is doomed. It always amazed me, but now I'm off to mars. Anybody else coming?

only if you bring the snacks

Another Rape game eh? Sheesh, when will those crazy Japanish learn their lesson? *sigh*

fish food carl:

CantFaketheFunk:
... Japan never ceases to amaze.

Screw that, the human race is doomed. It always amazed me, but now I'm off to mars. Anybody else coming?

Can I have a window seat please?

Malygris:
the game isn't intended for sale or use outside Japan

Because their government (and general populace) is more mature maybe :/. If somebody was already going to do something bad, they either would already have access to games like this or something else would set them off. There's no real reason to ban it from anywhere as long as you don't hand it out to 7 year old kids (but then again there are some adults with that mental age >.>).

fish food carl:

CantFaketheFunk:
... Japan never ceases to amaze.

Screw that, the human race is doomed. It always amazed me, but now I'm off to mars. Anybody else coming?

On my way right now.

Japanese culture. They do, very crazy things and many things that are not the norm.

This is one of them.

Well, the crux of the entire argument is whether gameplay influences behaviour outwardly. At first, I only really noticed it with wrestling games; I used to volunteer at a Youth Club, and watching the kids try to beat the living daylights out of each other after stopping them playing one of the WWF games was both surprising and extremely amusing.

So I can see how some of the lower demographics of the UK might well find an influence from such a game, because (as you probably need both hands to play the game) there's bound to be some build-up of repressed urges. I mean, now that we apparently have "uber-chavs" on our hands, the last thing we need is them forcibly creating another generation of them.

The backlash, however, I feel will be particularly brutal; at least in the UK, if not including Australia and the like.

I'm not surprised..

That's Japan for ya =/

I hear about this and read how much depth they put into this type of game. And i go past anger and disgust and it boils to straight up laughter. I mean really do you see just how much time and detail they put into this. Really, I am still laughing now.

...These guys don't browse the web much do they? It's an untapped goldmine for them. Why are they hesitating? Tch, why is this news anyway? Yeah this game is sick and twisted, (there are alot of others, mark my words younglings) but the video game industry is now too large and diverse for them to attack it as a whole. And to us they're just the feature of a hilarious aside on Penny Arcade. A social circle joke. A giggle can be pulled from a gamer at the sheer mention of Jack Thompson.

Fueling the fire or not, Japan are known pervs, it's why we love them and accept them into our elite circle of the here and now; 1st World development party. EVERYONE even my Grandmother knows this. So ffs, let them have their romp around the monkey bars while everyone watches with trepidation. We all know all thats going to happen is they'll make it 3 bars and fall flat onto the unfeeling ground below with a sickening and amusing 'crunch'. While we the gaming community chortle and throw small jagged rocks at them. Mocking their attempts and crushing their own self esteem even further down the road of 'sheer waste of space'.

Owning this game would be like having authentic Nazi memorabilia. Just something to say you have but so very weird that you do.

IceStar100:

fish food carl:

CantFaketheFunk:
... Japan never ceases to amaze.

Screw that, the human race is doomed. It always amazed me, but now I'm off to mars. Anybody else coming?

Can I have a window seat please?

I call shotgun!

I know this just a game but for some reason it still creeps me out and I don't know why. I don't think porn or hentai are "evil" per say but still, this game creeps me out.

"Rape. It's how you say "hello" in Japan"

(Sorry, TV Tropes's fault)

It was bound to be made sometime. This is sick, that's all I can say...

...I feel like this was made to discredit people who say videogames are harmless.
I mean, I'm sure it was created to profit off of wanna-be rapists, but it just feels like it was made soley for these crazy old men to jump up and down about, screaming "THERE IT IS, WE FOUND SOME RAPE, BURN THE GAMERS"

This is the problem with politicians, desperate to be seen, and to be seen doing something, even if it makes them look idiotic.

This is how Chris Morris, the genuis satirist got MPs to have questions asked in Parliament about 'CAKE' the new killer drug coming in from Eastern Europe, he just went to politicians and asked them to read out a statement explaining and condemning the drug, and pretty soon found one who'd read Charlie and the Chocolate Factory out on camera as fact if it got him on TV.

It's not at all surprising that (and I'm guessing here) a reseller put a copy up on amazon, I can't see Amazon looking at Rapeplay and thinking 'Yes, that's a perfect game to boost our friendly family store image!', and Vaz finds out and extrapolates from that that all games are rape simulators. I'm sure I could advertise a hooker on Ebay until it got reported, it does not make Ebay a whorehouse.

Its like if I hid some coke in a Bible, him then saying churches are drug pushers, its patently ridiculous, but if you say it loud enough, some people might believe you.

Grr, it just angers me the sheer desperation of some people to smash down gaming as some morally corrupt child destroying behemoth, instead of the industry that, while not blemish free, sure isn't any worse than than the music, movie, oil, or pharmaceutical industries, and actually makes the UK a fair bit of cash. Uk games companies are one of our few remaining successes, stop trying to stamp them into the ground, you suited dummy.

The very idea of this game existing sickens me, but the thought that anyone would actually buy or play it is even worse.

To the people saying things along the line of "murder is okay in games but rape isn't?", don't be an idiot. With the exception of trash like Grand Theft Auto, games where you're killing people usually involve them trying to kill you. Don't draw comparisons between simulated enemy combatants and simulated rape victims. First off, the comparisons are moronic to begin with, and second I seriously doubt the game in question has a "rape or be raped" element to it.

wow and to think the japaneese were disgusting enough weirdos

CantFaketheFunk:

tustin2121:
I'm going to be a conspiracy theorist right now and say that Isn't it a coincidence that these guys accused of there being rape in video games and then a year later, you know, THE AMOUNT OF TIME THE VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY TAKES TO MAKE A MODESTLY PLAYABLE VIDEO GAME, this game appears on the market?

I'm gonna say that this was a put up. "There's rape in video games!" "Uh sir, we have an inventory of the mainstream game industry here, and there is none..." "Then we'll have to COMMISSION someone to make one..." Vaz's guys go to Japan, commission someone to make the game, then pay (or have that company pay) Amazon to advertise it in Western Market.

I mean, seriously, I know Japan has this weird thing with girls and stuff, but to have it in the name? To have it as the complete intended purpose of the game? I see a put up here, but what do I know, I'm just making conspiracy theories.

According to Wikipedia, the game came out in 2006.

I was going to point this out, but I'm glad I didn't, because that would've betrayed the fact that I had prior knowledge of RapeLay. Which is entirely untrue.

Phew... close one, me.

Aaaaaalso...

mspencer82:
The very idea of this game existing sickens me, but the thought that anyone would actually buy or play it is even worse.

To the people saying things along the line of "murder is okay in games but rape isn't?", don't be an idiot. With the exception of trash like Grand Theft Auto, games where you're killing people usually involve them trying to kill you. Don't draw comparisons between simulated enemy combatants and simulated rape victims. First off, the comparisons are moronic to begin with, and second I seriously doubt the game in question has a "rape or be raped" element to it.

I feel somewhat obligated to point out that most hentai---and most regular Japanese porn, for that matter---would be seen as a depiction of rape by many Westerners, whether it's labelled as such or not, because the women appear to be less eager than in non-Japanese porn. By which I mean that the concept of this game has existed for decades. They just finally decided to slap on a title containing the word "rape" and now people are taking issue.

you can actually find the english version on some of those file sharing sites

OT: Ok, this is just...so wrong. This sort of thing is why gamers are maligned as wierdo's

That's fucking horrible. That's the worst game I have ever heard of, how can the Japanese really make these things?

Besides shock at this game's existence, this angers and depresses me because games like this provide fodder for all the video game haters out there. Now they can point to game like this to support their arguments, and equate them to valid games like GTA. I really wish this game was never made.

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