Jesse Eisenberg Promises Lex Luthor Is "Very Serious"

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Jesse Eisenberg Promises Lex Luthor Is "Very Serious"

Don't worry DC Comics fans - Jesse Eisenberg says Batman v Superman's Lex Luthor isn't a cartoon character.

Were you concerned that Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice was going to be a light-hearted superhero romp? Yeah, me neither. But that's not stopping its actors from telling us how serious this project is. For example, Jason Momoa recently explained that that no one will be making jokes about his Aquaman once the movie's finished. And now Jesse Eisenberg is going a step further, saying the entire movie is "very serious" and that his Lex Luthor won't be confused with some cartoon villain.

"It's just the most incredible character," Eisenberg said on The Today Show. "It was written by this guy Chris Terrio, this is his next movie after Argo, who is just this brilliant writer of characters. So this movie is not a cartoonish superhero movie, it's this very serious, well-acted, well-written, well-directed movie. It's really phenomenal."

Let's separate Eisenberg's comments from the fact that Luthor cartoonishly chants "the red capes are coming" in the trailer. Both Eisenberg and Momoa seem to be making a distinction between DC's superhero movies and Marvel Studios' films - where Avengers embraces a certain degree of light-hearted silliness, Batman v Superman will be realistic and serious. And that's fine! It still could be a fantastic movie, the question is whether audiences want seriousness after the last DC flick didn't fare as expected.

Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice reaches theaters on March 25, 2016. Seriously.

Source: The Today Show, via Games Radar

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Hasn't Lex Luthor always been portrayed as a serious character that takes no shit from people? I mean the DCAU version is a pretty serious guy.

Maybe if they made a trailer that didn't show Lex Luther as a cartoon villain chanting "the red capes are coming," I would take that statement more seriously.

I can't see name Jesse Eisenberg without thinking of THE rant, if you know the rant then you know what I'm talking about. If not, then watch THE rant.

From what I've heard, one of the big issues with the new DC Cinematic Universe is the fact that it is too serious. With that in mind, I am not comforted by this.

Yeah...just because your "serious" doesn't mean you are going to be good...

I dunno. Luthor looked pretty hilarious to me, in an awkward sort of way.

So it is confirmed, nobody is having fun in this movie.

(This is here just to occupy space because if you are to the point you get reported).

Samtemdo8:
Hasn't Lex Luthor always been portrayed as a serious character that takes no shit from people? I mean the DCAU version is a pretty serious guy.

Not really. He's been pretty campy in the past. As has much of the DCU. But the AU version is what a lot of people know, and that's fine.

circularlogic88:
Maybe if they made a trailer that didn't show Lex Luther as a cartoon villain chanting "the red capes are coming," I would take that statement more seriously.

In fairness, it's not like he said something funny.

thebobmaster:
From what I've heard, one of the big issues with the new DC Cinematic Universe is the fact that it is too serious. With that in mind, I am not comforted by this.

In fact, there was a persistent "no jokes" rumour.

Something Amyss:

Samtemdo8:
Hasn't Lex Luthor always been portrayed as a serious character that takes no shit from people? I mean the DCAU version is a pretty serious guy.

Not really. He's been pretty campy in the past. As has much of the DCU. But the AU version is what a lot of people know, and that's fine.

circularlogic88:
Maybe if they made a trailer that didn't show Lex Luther as a cartoon villain chanting "the red capes are coming," I would take that statement more seriously.

In fairness, it's not like he said something funny.

thebobmaster:
From what I've heard, one of the big issues with the new DC Cinematic Universe is the fact that it is too serious. With that in mind, I am not comforted by this.

In fact, there was a persistent "no jokes" rumour.

Your mostly thinking of the Mad Scientist version of Lex from the old 40s-70s era. I'm talking about thr megalomaniacal buisnessman of today. I read some of the best Modern Superman Comics, I watched the Animated Series.

thebobmaster:
From what I've heard, one of the big issues with the new DC Cinematic Universe is the fact that it is too serious. With that in mind, I am not comforted by this.

Good, let it be serious. I don't want DC to be all immature and non-sensicle and "humorous" like Marvel's as of late.

Samtemdo8:

Your mostly thinking of the Mad Scientist version of Lex from the old 40s-70s era. I'm talking about thr megalomaniacal buisnessman of today. I read some of the best Modern Superman Comics, I watched the Animated Series.

Luthor's received numerous makeovers in his time, up to and including the movies. the Gene Hackman/Kevin Spacey version from the movies was often done up as a sort of farcical, over-the-top individual. Same is true for a couple of the TV versions (Lois & Clark comes to mind, where he bordered on Jekyll and Hyde in his performance both as serious threat and comic relief) But since you said "always," I did assume you meant "always," yes. That would include the "mad scientist" version.

Samtemdo8:

thebobmaster:
From what I've heard, one of the big issues with the new DC Cinematic Universe is the fact that it is too serious. With that in mind, I am not comforted by this.

Good, let it be serious. I don't want DC to be all immature and non-sensicle and "humorous" like Marvel's as of late.

You act as if the only two choices are grimdark and "Marvel."

He's not complaining about it being serious, but "too serious." Crawling in my skin serious. 2edgy4u serious. That's not particularly any better than all juvenile humour.

thebobmaster:
From what I've heard, one of the big issues with the new DC Cinematic Universe is the fact that it is too serious. With that in mind, I am not comforted by this.

I can appreciate Lex Luthor as a serious character. He was predominantly serious in DCAU, and I thought that was a wonderful representation. But he can't just be serious, or he'll come across as one-dimensional. He needs to be fully-developed. Further, he can only work if the entire movie isn't every bit as serious as him. Good writing is about balance and counterpoints; just as comedy needs a straight man, an Abbot for Costello to play off of, a serious villain needs lighter characters around him to draw out how serious he is. A 9/10 means a lot more on a 1-10 scale than on a 9-10 scale, y'know?

This is a large part of why Batman and The Joker make such a good duo (particularly in DCAU). The Joker's entire existence is as a goofy counterbalance against the over-serious Batman. Each one helps bring out the extremes in the other, making for an overall dynamic tone and using the dichotomy between the two for variety so that an episode or movie doesn't become exhausting or boring to watch. The lack of dynamism was, in my opinion, Man of Steel's biggest failing, and I would really hate for Batman v Superman to make the exact same mistake for fear of being too lighthearted.

P.S. Thanks

Something Amyss:

Samtemdo8:

thebobmaster:
From what I've heard, one of the big issues with the new DC Cinematic Universe is the fact that it is too serious. With that in mind, I am not comforted by this.

Good, let it be serious. I don't want DC to be all immature and non-sensicle and "humorous" like Marvel's as of late.

You act as if the only two choices are grimdark and "Marvel."

He's not complaining about it being serious, but "too serious." Crawling in my skin serious. 2edgy4u serious. That's not particularly any better than all juvenile humour.

I'm just one of those people that defends Man of Steel as a movie. And besides Superman has been in WORSE things than Man of Steel (other than just movies), whatever problems the movie had pales in comparison to things like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WpE1MScgT8

Fanghawk:
And now Jesse Eisenberg is going a step further, saying the entire movie is "very serious" and that his Lex Luthor won't be confused with some cartoon villain.

Funny, because I have to say it's the cartoon version of Lex that I often take the most seriously. Hell, I take most animated DC work more than the live action films and their comically dark and grim adaptations. I find it funny that the people making this film seem to forget that they're making COMIC BOOK CHARACTERS. It's like they're ashamed of their source material.

My issue with what I saw of Eisenberg in the trailer was not that he came across as campy or too serious (though the 'red capes are coming' was pretty cringe-worthy), it was that he came across as really socially awkward. I'm no expert on DC, but isn't Lex Luthor, in addition to being a brilliant scientist, also a masterful businessman and negotiator who exudes charisma?

Of course Lex Luthor is very serious. He's a very serious guy, with very serious ambitions.

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Fanghawk:

Let's separate Eisenberg's comments from the fact that Luthor cartoonishly chants "the red capes are coming" in the trailer. Both Eisenberg and Momoa seem to be making a distinction between DC's superhero movies and Marvel Studios' films - where Avengers embraces a certain degree of light-hearted silliness, Batman v Superman will be realistic and serious. And that's fine! It still could be a fantastic movie, the question is whether audiences want seriousness after the last DC flick didn't fare as expected.

I'm kinda bothered by the perceived dichotomy between light-hearted silliness and realistic and serious. Primarily because serious movies are NOT any more 'realistic' than light-hearted ones.

In fact I think it's the other way around. I mean come on; 9 out of 10 of us that received super powers would be having MORE fun not less. How many of us would totally party like Stark? Or pledge ourselves to our country/beliefs and play out a hero fantasy like Cap? Or live a life of fighting/partying like Thor (before being reamed out by his dad)?

Compared to 'My parents are dead so I cry myself to sleep on my pile of money and impossibly awesome technology'man or 'Infinitely cosmic power, but I have even MORE dead parents'man. DC creates these over the top unstoppable characters so they have to manufacture reasons why it sucks to be them... why they can't possibly ENJOY being as awesome as they are. Not even a little. BECAUSE OTHERWISE PEOPLE DIE!

*sigh* I want DC to succeed, the more good movies the better, but it's really hard to empathize with them when they don't act like human beings. (irregardless if they are or not!)

This just goes to show how Clueless Zack Snyder and company are. They think they this makes the movie sound better to fans.

It's very hard to take Jesse Eisenberg serious in pretty much anything...

Banjo-Kazooie Blue:
This just goes to show how Clueless Zack Snyder and company are. They think they this makes the movie sound better to fans.

I'm a DC fan and I still like the direction the DC movies are going. I walked out of Man of Steel reletively satisfyed despite some silly moments (Catholic Priest)

ParasiteX:
It's very hard to take Jesse Eisenberg serious in pretty much anything...

You know I never seen The Social Club, Zombieland, or even followed Jesse Eisenberg at all. Heck when I heard of the backlash against him being casted as Lex Luthor I was like, "Who is Jesse Eisenberg?"

Samtemdo8:

I'm just one of those people that defends Man of Steel as a movie. And besides Superman has been in WORSE things than Man of Steel (other than just movies), whatever problems the movie had pales in comparison to things like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WpE1MScgT8

As much of a fan of Linkara as I am, nobody's trying to build a franchise off that piece of crap.

You know, I'm not going to defend Man of Steel. I think it definitely had it's problems, and it could have been better. But I'm kind of getting tired of everybody complaining about how dark the DC movies are. I mean, lets just take a look at what are hailed as the best comics from individual heroes.

Batman- Dark Knight Returns, The Killing Joke, Under the Red Hood arc, Hush, The Long Halloween

Superman- For the Man that Has Everything, Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow, Kingdom Come

Green Lantern- Emerald Twilight, Blackest Night, Circle of Fire

The point I'm trying to make is, DC is just....dark. The most hailed upon comics in the franchise are also the darkest ones.

Maybe don't cast Eisenberg if you want people to take the character seriously.

lax4life:
Of course Lex Luthor is very serious. He's a very serious guy, with very serious ambitions.

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better put on your business socks because it's Serious business time.

You know, cuz everyone likes for the Supervillain to be supr srs and not have fun, just look at the Joker, uhh, I mean Loki... no, wait give me a minute I'll think of something

Fanghawk:
For example, Jason Momoa recently explained that that no one will be making jokes about his Aquaman once the movie's finished.

I'm sorry, Mr, Momoa; it could be that yours is the interpretation of Aquaman that will make audiences, laugh, cry, and rise cheering when the lights come up.

But people are still going to make jokes about Aquaman when the movie is over. Because Aquaman has a long and often ridiculous/pathetic history that precedes your interpretation.

And also, he's a superhero who talks to fish. In a world of technicolor psychotics and city-shattering pyrotechnics... Well, yeah.

"It's just the most incredible character," Eisenberg said on The Today Show. "It was written by this guy Chris Terrio, this is his next movie after Argo, who is just this brilliant writer of characters. So this movie is not a cartoonish superhero movie, it's this very serious, well-acted, well-written, well-directed movie. It's really phenomenal."

Whatever else might be said about Smallville, I thought Michael Rosenbaum's portrayal of Lex Luthor was pretty awesome. I'm more than willing to consider the possibility that Luthor could be a great movie villain in a more seriously-themed piece.

I'm not entirely convinced that Eisenberg will portray that great villain in this particular piece, but we'll see.

Samtemdo8:

thebobmaster:
From what I've heard, one of the big issues with the new DC Cinematic Universe is the fact that it is too serious. With that in mind, I am not comforted by this.

Good, let it be serious. I don't want DC to be all immature and non-sensicle and "humorous" like Marvel's as of late.

Being serious doesn't mean it can't be fun. DC's films don't look very fun.

The biggest issue with Eisenberg is that he's a terrible actor and has an annoying face.

And don't even get me started on literal Zack Snyder

thewatergamer:
Yeah...just because your "serious" doesn't mean you are going to be good...

Well, the only success they've ever had at the movies was with the Chris Nolan movies, so knowing how these guys operate they are going to try and replicate that success as much as possible.

Imagine if the MCU movies didn't get popular with the relatively comedic performance of RDJ in the original Iron-Man movie? Things could have been dramatically different if they hadn't at least tried to carry that tone through their other films...

Yeah there was no need to emphasise how serious the sequel to Man of Steel will be.

Much as I love Man of Steel, I'd love if a DC (or a Marvel) film managed to grab the right balance of serious and fun like X2/Days of Future Past did, but I know such things won't happen and we'll get something that ends up silly because of how serious it takes itself.

Oh, he'll be serious. I expect he'll be dark and brooding too. So he, batman and superman can all be brooding and dark together by brooding in darkness. But I'm not convinced DoJ will be dark, serious and brooding enough for my tastes. And edgy. They must all be super dark, super edgy and super broody, all the time. Also, there must be no colour in the film.

Jake Martinez:

Well, the only success they've ever had at the movies was with the Chris Nolan movies, so knowing how these guys operate they are going to try and replicate that success as much as possible.

What are you talking about? This is nonsense, I'm sorry to say. First, you are ignoring Tim Burton and Richard Donner, both of whom made critical and commercial blockbusters, both of whose movies stand today as among the best superhero films ever made. Michael Keaton's Batman if anything paved the way for today's movies on the basis of its success. People saw that a good movie could be made and that there were fans who enjoyed and paid for it in droves.

Second, apart from Superman Returns (which I would digress, was a much better film than MoS by every measure, despite its own issues), Nolan's trilogy were the *only* films they made in the last decade or more. Stating that Nolan's movies were "the only success they've ever had" is absolutely, objectively and demonstrably untrue. They're the *only* films they made in the last decade, with SR, and Tim Burton and Richard Donner both made *better* films decades ago that are still today better than most superhero films and certainly better than Nolan's.

Then the kicker is that considering they're basing DoJ and whatever else they do moving forward on Nolan's films' success, they've completely severed continuity with a different Batman and different director, different timeline and universe. The only thing thing they're gonna keep is a desaturated look that's mostly dark. Man of Steel was a terrible film, Nolan's trilogy was good, great, awful. I'm personally interested to see what they do, but only because of the fondness I once had for those characters' older films. Judging by the trailer and news surrounding it, it's going to be dark, serious, edgy and broody which sounds about as enjoyable as a sandpaper slide.

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