This is hilarious how the everyone is overreacting to this. If they hadn't publicised it then 99% of people who know about it now, wouldn't know about it.

I just really wish that American politicians would stop embarrassing their country by displaying their ignorance to the world. How much research would this guy have needed to realize this game isn't even available through normal retail channels in the US? This is supposed to be a leader?

Being a Canadian that pays a fair amount of attention to local politics, I can guarantee you that American leaders do not have a monopoly on stupidity and ignorance.

"The Speaker of the New York City Council will be holding a press conference this morning calling for U.S. retailers to boycott the Japanese videogame RapeLay "

Too late... >_> >_> <_<

Boycott? Isn't it already illegal in the states?

I will now offer up a perspective from the wonderful world of books and movies.

I have recently finished the novel "La Catedral Del Mar"(The Cathedral of the Seas, or some such(also available at Amazon)). It is a quite decent book centered around the societal changes in medieval-to early Renaissance Spain. It is also a book wherein murder, vengeful ruination of others, torture by hand of the inquisition and rape runs rampant.
Within the first two chapters of the book, the new bride of the main character has been condemned to a decade of more-or-less uninterrupted rape, their young child left to starve to death, and another child clubbed to death.

Good book. A few of the accolades reads as follows "The Cathedral of the Seas will be loved by any reader, and justly so. If only all bestsellers were like this" and "Rife with tension, action & romance"

Naturally, all the snuff serves to show the brutality of medieval life, couldn't very well be called halfway accurate without it.

Hell. Even classic movies like say, Braveheart(Produced by an American studio, I believe), have people being raped and tortured.

But for a video game to contain any of such things? MADNESS!

Granted, Japanese rapegames may a bit of a stretch from the Scottish rebellions, but that's not the point.

Our politicos are ignorant fools. I already made a post on my thoughts on this game/banning of it in the previous thread, but here's a rehash:
1)Game got made in Japan.
2)Game was sold ONLY in Japan.
3)Some dude put up two copies on Amazon.
4)Politicians do what they do: act batshit bonkers over something that doesn't matter/apply in an attempt to win the votes of the common man.
Nice to know everyone sees how dumb this guy is for saying this crap. Just saying: our politicians are the most ignorant/stupid group of Americans. The rest of us are vastly superior to them (for the most part).

Well in this case, the media has every right to complain, if you want to play this game, then you should either be put in jail, or move to Japan. He may just be trying to put himself in the spotlight, and the game may not have been sold in North America, but this game should not even exist IMO, and freedom of speech or expression is all fine but not when you encourage rape..

Ah, you know what, I just realized while typing this that you can kill people in games, and since I find killing worse than rape, so by that standard, this game has the right to exist, I just won't play it. And if you ban this game in America, then I guess you have to ban any game where you kill people, and if that happened, I don't know what gamers would do.

L.B. Jeffries:
It's always baffling what games the media uses to complain about games. Mass Effect, Super Columbine Massacre RPG...now even Dangerous High School Girls in Trouble is getting hell for talking about rape. The damn problem is that they're wigging out because it's a game with a taboo topic. How many books and films have rape in them? How many news stories talk about it regularly?

Is this a good game? I doubt it. Does it deserve to be banned because it dares to talk about a topic that we just don't let games ever go into? No.

QFT.

I think very few games deserve to be banned. And that's more because "This game is god-awful" than "It talks about/lets you do bad things".

This is getting good. Anyone know if the Japanese enforce age ratings on games?

Correct me if I am wrong, but is this not an older H-Game? The only people in America who would have known up until this point would have been porn addicts, anime fans who like to look up weird shit, same for gamers, and various message boards scattered across the net(looking at you 4chan and GameFAQs)

EDIT: The Japanese use the CERO rating system for rating video games, whether or not that applies to games like this though I don't know.

I just sent an email to the webmaster at the New York City Alliance Against Sexual Assault. Here's a copy of it, I'm wondering if I came off too strong....?

"Dear Sir or Madam,

Sincerely
(name withheld)"

Haha on the Escapist home page all i saw was "New York City Councilor Calls for Rape".

Yog Sothoth:
I just sent an email to the webmaster at the New York City Alliance Against Sexual Assault. Here's a copy of it, I'm wondering if I came off too strong....?

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No, not strong at all, it was something that needed to be said and I am glad you did, let me know what they say.

Flap Jack452:
Haha on the Escapist home page all i saw was "New York City Councilor Calls for Rape".

Yog Sothoth:
I just sent an email to the webmaster at the New York City Alliance Against Sexual Assault. Here's a copy of it, I'm wondering if I came off too strong....?

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No, not strong at all, it was something that needed to be said and I am glad you did, let me know what they say.

Sure, if they respond I'll post it here. I love writing angry emails....

Yog Sothoth:
I just sent an email to the webmaster at the New York City Alliance Against Sexual Assault. Here's a copy of it, I'm wondering if I came off too strong....?

"Dear Sir or Madam,

While I agree that the game in question is offensive to western audiences, I want to point out that it has never been distributed here in the US. The fiasco with Amazon.com was a one time mistake, the retailer does not normally offer that game in the US. Calling for retailers in North America to stop selling this game is pointless, as none of them carry it now.

My point in all this is that first, you're asking retailers to stop selling a game that they DON'T SELL TO BEGIN WITH. Second, you're feeding negative media myths about video games by calling attention to one that is an exception, NOT the rule. This would be akin to condemning Hollywood for snuff films and amateur porn. Last, you're mis-categorizing this game by calling it "a teenage video game" which makes NO SENSE WHAT-SO-EVER. This game is obviously NOT intended for children, and using the that phrase to describe it only contributes to the misconception that all video games are violent, misogynistic, and targeted at kids.

Don't get me wrong, IF Rapelay were actually being sold in the US I would fully support your request for a boycott. Violence against women should never be condoned and is a serious problem that warrants continued vigilance. But, I am SICK and TIRED of video games being demonized and blamed for everything that's wrong with our country and society.

Do your homework next time. Right now you're the laughing stock of everyone in the gaming community who's read your press release.

Sincerely
(name withheld)"

*Clap on back
I must say, Sir, that this is a very well worded and to the point letter that raises some interesting and important points, and of course if you do receive a reply (though that is unlikely I believe) I for one would be pleased to see it. On topic I'd like to say that if they were doing this in order to try and stop the game from being sold (ever) in the USA I might understand. Much more so if it was actually being sold there before hand.

I had no idea the american government could control what is sold in Japan, but ofc, i should've known seeing as the american government think of itself as supreme ruler of the world...

Still nothing like Australia's shitty gaming politics.

Yet i did laugh VERY loudly at this, it's (Evidently) three years old and has never been released (By the looks of it) in mass quantities.

While I'm aware that the adult video game department is large in Japan, I'm also lead to believe that this game (While popular to a point among fans) doesn't sell very largely (Like other adult video games, you only have a small market.)

Meanwhile, as pointed out by previous posts... Rape and murder and everything is in books on a MUCH larger scale. This kinda stuff means it's harder for people to create interesting and deep games we can enjoy, mostly because shit like this happens (Where, really... Nothing can be done and... Who the hell cares in the end? It's a rape game, yes... Don't agree with that, but free speech, different culture... It's never been released outside of a small market, so i don't rightly agree with the game's plot, but i don't have to care because I'm not going to buy it am i?)

In the end it comes down to the stupid notion that video games influence people in some horrible and mystic way of space magic and fairy dust... Where they suddenly want to go to a strip club or kill hookers because they played GTA. Where books and shit somehow don't have that effect. And the general populace being idiots... That too.

Generally this shit happens because, like the Mass Effect scandal, these idiots don't research. And the general populace i stupid enough to believe that video games are some kind of demonic thing that can command people to do stuff.

...Sorry, went of on a tangent there. But yes... I blame the mass stupids on this.

What these politicians are too stupid to understand is that the more they complain about it, they give it free advertisement, and more people are going to want to play it. It is kind of funny to see them trying to ban a game that wouldn't get passed the ESRB in the first place.

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And the fact that they're trying to say that it was being sold in America is just stupid. Yet the ignorant lemming-like masses will believe it like they always do. I saw a news program the other night about it with so much misinformation, and even a lack of information. All they did was cut to some soccer mom outside of a video game store saying that, and I quote "It is disgusting that something like this would be released here, that game is never coming into my house!", the way they were talking about it gave the impression that it was actually released outside of Japan, when it reality, it wasn't. It never would have, and it never will be.

They are just trying to use this as ammunition against the video game industry, and it angers me to no end.

Heh, how many of us had even heard of this game before these politicians started making a huge deal about it? I sure as hell hadn't.

And as revolting as the game is, how do you boycott something that no sane person has on stock? It's like they assume every store that's selling games has this game on stock, while the fact of the matter is that unrated and AO games aren't even sold for the most part.

PedroSteckecilo:
Boycott? Isn't it already illegal in the states?

There's something pesky called the First Amendment but don't worry, politicians are doing their best to eradicate that. Child pornography is punishable but a blind man could tell that the characters in a videogame are virtual and AFAIK courts have ruled that child porn is only illegal when it involves actual children (because the laws are to protect children from being exploited and put into CP, not the idea by itself because ideas are protected by the constitution). The situation is different in other countries of course.

the_tramp:
This is hilarious how the everyone is overreacting to this. If they hadn't publicised it then 99% of people who know about it now, wouldn't know about it.

That's the case with most games like this,controversial games get so much coverage that it makes it appealing to so many. Even this game, which even I have to admit is taking things too far, yet now I want it so I can see first hand how bad it is.

nova18:

the_tramp:
This is hilarious how the everyone is overreacting to this. If they hadn't publicised it then 99% of people who know about it now, wouldn't know about it.

That's the case with most games like this,controversial games get so much coverage that it makes it appealing to so many. Even this game, which even I have to admit is taking things too far, yet now I want it so I can see first hand how bad it is.

Exactly this!
Now that we have been introduced to this new thread to our Religions/Savety/Values/Potatochips/Whatsoever I feel tempted to see if it is another of those typical overreactions or if there is a boundrie crossed that should and has never been crossed before...form an opinion on my own...

nova18:

That's the case with most games like this,controversial games get so much coverage that it makes it appealing to so many. Even this game, which even I have to admit is taking things too far, yet now I want it so I can see first hand how bad it is.

Precisely, when I first heard of this game I found a review for it, which was hilarious in it's own right and showed the concept of the game and read key parts of the review to my housemates. They were horrified but we did sit around laughing about how bad this game could possibly be. Out of curiosity I did a torrent search for the game and found one for the game. I didn't download it but then again if this situation played out somewhere else then it is likely that it would have been downloaded.

RapeLay is just another example of a game, well seen as nothing out of the normal for the Japanese and their extremely open porn market, proves that Americans are so stupid as to ignore the fact that this game never came out in America to begin with.
of course it was only a matter of time before Hentai or Eroge hit the american public and caused a MASSIVE outcry. i am surprised it took so long. i guess the violent, often times 40x more revolting Hentai mangas and animes (demon rape, child rape, bondage rape, etc.) out there doesn't do it. it needs to be in a video game to be dangerous.