EVE Players Like Scandals and Corruption

EVE Players Like Scandals and Corruption

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With scandals and cut-throat treachery the rule rather than the exception, the dog-eat-dog world of EVE Online isn't quite for the faint of heart. But according to Noah Ward, one of the game's developers, that's exactly what the game's players love about it.

The futuristic world of EVE Online is not a friendly place. Why, just last month, one of the top executives of the biggest in-game alliance went turncoat, defecting to the enemy and dissolving the alliance for good. Before that, it was a cabal of approximately 70 players exploiting a bug to harvest entirely more raw materials than they were supposed to, affecting the in-game economy of more than two hundred thousand people.

Despite all of the uncertainty, lead designer Noah Ward told MTV Multiplayer, gamers weren't being turned away from the turbulent universe of EVE, as the developers at CCP had feared. In fact, they saw quite the opposite:

That was in the morning, but a couple hours later the buzz on the forums was crazy, subscriber numbers were growing, and everybody was really excited. Because everyone was becoming complacent and bored with being the biggest alliance, and then all of a sudden now there's war and turmoil. People who used to be in the alliance were re-subscribing and everyone was really excited about it so it's not necessarily always a bad thing when this sort of stuff happens. Somebody on the other side was interviewed, and he was saying "When you beat the biggest raid in WoW you don't get an interview in The New York Times but when this sort of thing happens it makes real-world news.

Nor does the dev team intend to step in and put a stop to it - after all, the extent to which EVE is player-run is in fact one of the game's main draws: "We let them do their own thing. We will step in if there are racial slurs going on or any real-world threats, but if it's all within the role-play and within the game, we don't change anything."

MTV Multiplayer's Tracey John goes on to ask Ward whether or not he thinks that other MMOs should follow suit and try to be like EVE. Me, I'm torn. On the one hand, the stuff that goes down in EVE is completely awesome, but it only really works because it's the game that it is - the only other way another MMO could have the same kind of interactions is ... well, if it was EVE. Sometimes you're in the mood for an EVE, sometimes you're in the mood for a WoW, or a LotRO, or a WAR. Let EVE stay the unique gem that it is.

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that was the part that i hatted about eve the most...

You know, I couldn't quite get into Eve enough.. I played off and on.. but to be honest.. well... I got tired being a pirate.

I just don't feel the need to be an asshole to people in a game. I never felt much accomplishment in the goal, coupled with the fact that Eve online was more often a job I was paying to do.

The 'Role Played and within the game' comment though, that is inaccurate. Most of the pirate corps do not role-play anything, nor really do many people within the game as a whole. Sure, they do the acts within the game, but they do things that technically break that kind of rule. Like say running multiple accounts so you have 'neutrals' to scout out another corp, using a Vent server for communication (and breaking into anothers vent server) and so on. These are hardly using the in-game stuff, but outside tools.

Course, I'm not really willing to play any MMO's right now. I think seeing the kind of people who game mostly to try and hurt and bully others, and being in a corp with them, turned me off to playing too many games with other people.

And this, my friends of far and wide, is why EVE is the greatest online game ever made, slander and sneakiness is what makes utter awesomeness baby!

pyromcr:
that was the part that i hatted about eve the most...

I know. I've never played EVE online, but I'm sure I'd hat it for the same reason. Just for clarification, does "hatted" mean "liked" or "hated?"

gmer412:

pyromcr:
that was the part that i hatted about eve the most...

I know. I've never played EVE online, but I'm sure I'd hat it for the same reason. Just for clarification, does "hatted" mean "liked" or "hated?"

I think it means he liked to place hats on his game. Just a guess.

Personally, I don't think I would subscribe for that. politics are interesting, don't get me wrong, but I get enough of those on forums.

Of course its what EVE players love about it, it just doesn't happen in other MMOs, lets face it, the last time anything even nearly as interesting as that happened in WoW was when the Zul'Gurub patch was released and the Hakkar plague killed thousands of players over dozens of servers, and that was a complete accident rather than something that was permitted and implemented into the game.

Five bucks says that most everyone comments on how they 'tried Eve and just couldn't get into it' or rant about how boring of a game it is even though it's pretty apparant they only spent a day bobbing around in space it is. Meanwhile the handful of stalwart players rave about how awesome it is. Eve Online threads always end up the exact same way every time.

I'm not sure why this is news though, I thought it was kind of a given that this is one of the things that keep Eve Online players hooked. Hell, I've been playing for over three years now and what initially got me going was when I read about the Guiding Hand Social Club's raid on Ubiqua Seraph. What's next, an article about how WoW players are attracted to the game's focus on doing the same thing over and over again in the pursuit of shiny loot?

TOGSolid:
Five bucks says that most everyone comments on how they 'tried Eve and just couldn't get into it' or rant about how boring of a game it is even though it's pretty apparant they only spent a day bobbing around in space it is. Meanwhile the handful of stalwart players rave about how awesome it is. Eve Online threads always end up the exact same way every time.

I'm not sure why this is news though, I thought it was kind of a given that this is one of the things that keep Eve Online players hooked. Hell, I've been playing for over three years now and what initially got me going was when I read about the Guiding Hand Social Club's raid on Ubiqua Seraph. What's next, an article about how WoW players are attracted to the game's focus on doing the same thing over and over again in the pursuit of shiny loot?

They sure do love their loot though

TOGSolid:
I'm not sure why this is news though, I thought it was kind of a given that this is one of the things that keep Eve Online players hooked.

<----- When EVE Online sneezes, the Escapist is there, man! ;-)

Echolocating:

TOGSolid:
I'm not sure why this is news though, I thought it was kind of a given that this is one of the things that keep Eve Online players hooked.

<----- When EVE Online sneezes, the Escapist is there, man! ;-)

And at the moment it has the flu in spades. :)
I really like the fact that Eve is strong enough to actually take note of what's going on without pulling the SOE card of "nerf everything 'til it glows". The one thing that really upsets me is when certain upgrades come in that simply aren't thought out enough, and then cause massives of nerfs/upgrades just to get the balance right. WoW, LotRO, EQ could learn a lot of lessons by porting some of the ideas out to players rather than putting in timesinks. People don't mind wasting time as long as there's interaction.

really the more i hear about this game the more i consider playing it you see this isnt just a simple mmo this is like the real world when some major bodies break an alliance its affected it has real world politics

I subbed to my old trail account after that BOB director turned coat, just had to get back into it. Loving every second, hell, in the first day, somebody scammed me for 20.5 million ISK.

It was like: Welcome to Eve again Rouge, now WAKE UP.

I was pissed, then I started laughing, and got back to enjoying myself.

I want to play... but my computer isn't beefy enough.

It's logical though, that people in EVE would love the scandal. I mean, they give you that opportunity, so you'll take it right? Give an inch, take a mile, and all that?

Flying-Emu:
I want to play... but my computer isn't beefy enough.

It's logical though, that people in EVE would love the scandal. I mean, they give you that opportunity, so you'll take it right? Give an inch, take a mile, and all that?

They've got a low end client that damn near anything can run.
OS: Windows® XP / Vista
CPU: Intel Pentium® or AMD @ 1 GHz
RAM: XP - 1 GB / Vista - 1.5 GB
HD space: 6.0 GB
Network: 56k modem or better Internet connection
Video: 64 MB Shader Model 2.0 Graphics cards such as GeForce FX (5 series) class card or higher, ATi 9500, x300 series or higher and Similar chips from other manufacturers
Drivers: DirectX® 9.0c (included) and latest video drivers
DVD-ROM: DVD-ROM : 2 speed DVD reader or greater required.

http://www.eveonline.com/download/windows.asp

This is why I love EVE, shit always goes wrong, keeps me on the edge.

Zankabo:
These are hardly using the in-game stuff, but outside tools.

That's the fun thing, the game isn't limited within itself. It reaches out and makes the real world a part of itself. Well, this is true for every multiplayer game, but I guess it's most apparent in the most massively multiplayer game there is.

Anyway I think what they mean when they say "roleplaying" here is just when people do bastardly things they wouldn't do to anyone outside of the game, such as tricking you into giving away cheaply an item they bought for 18 real-life dollars. The way pirates, hackers and scammers justify their actions to themselves is pretty much limited to attributing those actions to their in-game character.

I'm not an MMo fan but if I was EVE seems the most appealing for sure. As I would love to put the Dick into Dastardly!

The only thing I don't like about it is the monthly fee. A monthly fee makes me feel pressured to play the game to get my money's worth, and I hate being pressured to do something. Just ask my work, former college or schools, or my parents.

i never got far enough into EVE to get this sort of stuff.

when i left i was flying battle cruisers (a Tanked up Drake) as a Caldari, and having a hell of a time trying to work up money doing missions

pyromcr:
that was the part that i hatted about eve the most...

Hatted?
But really, this is my favorite part of the game, gives it more serious depth.

 

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