Dawn of War II Dethrones Lich King

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Dawn of War II Dethrones Lich King

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Relic's Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War II has broken Blizzard's stranglehold on the US PC sales charts in its first week, knocking Wrath of the Lich King from its Frozen Throne.

It seems like the World of Warcraft juggernaut has finally met a match - if perhaps only a temporary one. Since its release in November, the game's second expansion, Wrath of the Lich King, has ruled the sales charts in the US with an iron-gloved fist. Anyone who didn't see this coming, given that Lich King's predecessors were also chart-toppers, might have needed to work on their pattern recognition.

Its time has come, though - after all, if there's anyone who knows how to kill (space) Orcs and (space) Elves, it's the Space Marines of Warhammer 40,000's Imperium. GI.biz reports that Relic's RTS has stolen the top spot from Blizzard for the moment.

We'd crunch some numbers, but unfortunately, there don't seem to be any numbers to crunch. All that we know is that DoW2 took first, Lich King second, then a double helping of The Sims 2, Spore, and two more entries for World of Warcraft and its Battlechest. Heartening news for Relic, considering that DoW2 did what F.E.A.R. 2 failed to do last month.

The question is ... is this just a spike, with a hot new game moving quickly off shelves? Or will Dawn of War II have a longer presence on the list?

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I predict it will be there for the long run.

Good Good, no other RTS compared to the first Dawn of War and its expansions, so it's no suprise to see it have high sales figures for now.

I dare to call it the RTS blue balls of mainstream RTS gamers. Waiting that long for starcraft 2 caused me to buy the entire Dawn of War collection during the Steam new year sale. It was an overall enjoyable single player experience but having Gamespy host the online gameplay was a horrible experience. Of course the game was dated.

I was even tempted by buy DOW2 but my experience from the gameplay and my inferior computer told me not to buy the game because of the drastic change of the RTS standard.

I'm glad it is doing well though. It has been a while since a well known RTS game came out on the market. Yes I know the Empire series is still being made but it is more of an underground title to me.

Ye it's nice but don't forget DoW2 doesn't have a monthly fee, it'll take a while before DoW2's sales reach the monthly payments made since WoTLK release.

I'm predicting it'll be on the top ten for a while, though Lich King will probably reclaim the top spot within a week or three.

The real test is if it can hold up to that "other" sci-fi RTS...

Jursa:
Ye it's nice but don't forget DoW2 doesn't have a monthly fee, it'll take a while before DoW2's sales reach the monthly payments made since WoTLK release.

This is just copies sold per week. Not money made :)

No they fucking don't /end fanboy

Good on them, it's not like it's really that bad anyhow. I take it as just the WOTLK client if so then nowadays you can get it free from the WoW website so there's no need to buy it.

But still, 'twill be an interesting flame war *grabs Doomplate and Doomhammer* Lok'Tar Ogar!

Come (Wow'ers) show me what passes for fury among your misbegotten kind!

Hmmmmmmmmm Kudos to Relic for taking Blizzard's two best game ideas. Fantasy with orcs humans elves etc. (Warcraft) and putting them in space(Starcraft). I'm not gonna rip on them for doing this because clearly, it sells. However, don't read too much into these numbers. Comparing Warhammer and WOW is like comparing a Classic Game to Halo 3. While people look at Halo and go OMG HALO NEW SHINY, they play it and eventually get bored and go back to the classic game that never gets old. Once Starcraft II comes out, then one will see Blizzard's full capability shown. Now if only they would give us one of those..... damn can't remember what they are called for the life of me....... OH YEAH, a release date.

Bacon, are you just being sarcastic in your comment about Relic taking Blizzards ideas?

Baconmonster723:
Hmmmmmmmmm Kudos to Relic for taking Blizzard's two best game ideas. Fantasy with orcs humans elves etc. (Warcraft) and putting them in space(Starcraft). I'm not gonna rip on them for doing this because clearly, it sells. However, don't read too much into these numbers. Comparing Warhammer and WOW is like comparing a Classic Game to Halo 3. While people look at Halo and go OMG HALO NEW SHINY, they play it and eventually get bored and go back to the classic game that never gets old. Once Starcraft II comes out, then one will see Blizzard's full capability shown. Now if only they would give us one of those..... damn can't remember what they are called for the life of me....... OH YEAH, a release date.

Starcraft and Warcraft weren't Blizzards ideas, they were originally going to be Warhammer and Warhammer 40k games, but Games Workshop pulled the license at the last minute, so Blizzard quickly reshuffled it, and bam Starcraft. :P

Frankly I hate DoW 2 for not having Pixel Shader 2 support, damn thee relic and thou orsum game, why do you torment me so? *shakes fist*

Baconmonster723:
Hmmmmmmmmm Kudos to Relic for taking Blizzard's two best game ideas. Fantasy with orcs humans elves etc. (Warcraft) and putting them in space(Starcraft). I'm not gonna rip on them for doing this because clearly, it sells. However, don't read too much into these numbers. Comparing Warhammer and WOW is like comparing a Classic Game to Halo 3. While people look at Halo and go OMG HALO NEW SHINY, they play it and eventually get bored and go back to the classic game that never gets old. Once Starcraft II comes out, then one will see Blizzard's full capability shown. Now if only they would give us one of those..... damn can't remember what they are called for the life of me....... OH YEAH, a release date.

I am afraid you are mistaken, it is t'other way round, Warcraft and Starcraft are actually pastiches of Warhammer and Warhammer 40k, which started in the eighties.

I hope you brought a helmet, because you have just done the equivalent of covering yourself in barbecue sauce and jumping into a piranha tank; prepare for a reckoning, the others will not be as forgiving as I am.

but anyway, back on topic- all together now: "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!"
Oh Khorne, you master of subtlety.

Baconmonster723:
Hmmmmmmmmm Kudos to Relic for taking Blizzard's two best game ideas. Fantasy with orcs humans elves etc. (Warcraft) and putting them in space(Starcraft). I'm not gonna rip on them for doing this because clearly, it sells. However, don't read too much into these numbers. Comparing Warhammer and WOW is like comparing a Classic Game to Halo 3. While people look at Halo and go OMG HALO NEW SHINY, they play it and eventually get bored and go back to the classic game that never gets old. Once Starcraft II comes out, then one will see Blizzard's full capability shown. Now if only they would give us one of those..... damn can't remember what they are called for the life of me....... OH YEAH, a release date.

Penny Arcade explains it in 3 panels.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/04/10/

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Its nice to see an RTS doing well, I always imagined that it was a niche market, but to outsell a WOW expansion is pretty impressive.

I'm gonna give it 3 weeks before WotLK is back up there though.

Hm... Looks like I'll be stopping by Gamestop this weekend. And I shall know no fear.

I just hope they come out with the I.G. expansion soon, I loves my Guardsmen.

I love dawn of war 2, its different.

I Hope it will be around for a long time.

And I also hope they don't repeat what they did last time, 100 expansions all adding another god damn race and a generic RISK type campaign.

orangebandguy:
Good Good, no other RTS compared to the first Dawn of War and its expansions, so it's no suprise to see it have high sales figures for now.

Considering the only thing similar between DoWI and DoWII is the universe they pan out in...

I'd say it is a surprise.

Be like saying "Well its obvious that beer sells so well, I mean water was doing fine before it." Yeah they both have similar traits but the success of one didn't exactly define the success of the other.

That said, I don't like DoWII (or beer) but I'm not going to shit on other people's fun, to each their own.

It's like when people say that Wii's aren't selling as well as they did a bit ago...yes...that's because everyone already has one and see's no need to buy another.

You can only sell so many copies of WoTLK before everyone playing has a copy. At that point the sales start going down and anything new with the slightest level of professionalism will take the spot. Even if only temporarily. I would theorize (and surely will get flamed for this) that DoWII will stop selling well once word gets out widely that its an entirely different game.

I'm actually surprised SPORE is still selling well, but I guess if the Jonas Brothers Concert can do well in theatres anything is possible.

Baconmonster723:
Hmmmmmmmmm Kudos to Relic for taking Blizzard's two best game ideas. Fantasy with orcs humans elves etc. (Warcraft) and putting them in space(Starcraft). I'm not gonna rip on them for doing this because clearly, it sells. However, don't read too much into these numbers. Comparing Warhammer and WOW is like comparing a Classic Game to Halo 3. While people look at Halo and go OMG HALO NEW SHINY, they play it and eventually get bored and go back to the classic game that never gets old. Once Starcraft II comes out, then one will see Blizzard's full capability shown. Now if only they would give us one of those..... damn can't remember what they are called for the life of me....... OH YEAH, a release date.

Um actually Relic is using Games Workshop's Warhammer 40k and Fantasy mythos, which has been around in tabletop form since before both Warcraft and Starcraft. In fact, it's the exact reverse of what you said, Blizzard admits they borrowed the ideas of the Warhammer series and made it their own.

CantFaketheFunk:
The question is ... is this just a spike, with a hot new game moving quickly off shelves? Or will Dawn of War II have a longer presence on the list?

Warhammer selling more copies in its first week than WOTLK in its fifteenth isn't exactly a great feat. Even considering the fact that World of Warcraft is effectively un-pirate-able, I'd have expected something like this to happen much sooner. Guess the PC really is dying as a platform. Woe. Woe to us. :(

slackbheep:
Come (Wow'ers) show me what passes for fury among your misbegotten kind!

We're all too busy playing WoW to care.

TsunamiWombat:

Baconmonster723:
Hmmmmmmmmm Kudos to Relic for taking Blizzard's two best game ideas. Fantasy with orcs humans elves etc. (Warcraft) and putting them in space(Starcraft). I'm not gonna rip on them for doing this because clearly, it sells. However, don't read too much into these numbers. Comparing Warhammer and WOW is like comparing a Classic Game to Halo 3. While people look at Halo and go OMG HALO NEW SHINY, they play it and eventually get bored and go back to the classic game that never gets old. Once Starcraft II comes out, then one will see Blizzard's full capability shown. Now if only they would give us one of those..... damn can't remember what they are called for the life of me....... OH YEAH, a release date.

Penny Arcade explains it in 3 panels.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/04/10/

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I have the hoodie they made about that comic. I love it :D

It's probably just a spike, but it's sweet to see nonetheless

My computer has three processors, and I could only enjoy the game at a bearable framerate when I took the settings down to half-past nil. I mean, my GeForce 8200 is old, but this game is supposed to cater to my system.

Makes me sad, because I really wanted to revel in this with the full brunt of all of my Warhammer 40,000 nerd-dom.

CantFaketheFunk:
I'm predicting it'll be on the top ten for a while, though Lich King will probably reclaim the top spot within a week or three.

Remember WOTLK is not a game in itself, just an expansion to WOW. I'm thinking that there is a certain point at which if a person hasn't upgraded to Lich King, they're intending to just not.

L33tsauce_Marty:
I predict it will be there for the long run.

I don't, I expect this to be a 1 time first week only thing.

I bet one of my...escapist badges?

Indigo_Dingo:

CantFaketheFunk:
I'm predicting it'll be on the top ten for a while, though Lich King will probably reclaim the top spot within a week or three.

Remember WOTLK is not a game in itself, just an expansion to WOW. I'm thinking that there is a certain point at which if a person hasn't upgraded to Lich King, they're intending to just not.

Eh. WoW and BC have been topping the charts for so long that it's not hard to imagine Lich King will return as well.

Wasn't DOW II like, the only major release for the past couple weeks, minus empire: total war?

Its not suprising that it can now finally beat out on sales of an exp pack that... essentially every wow gamer already owns. Every wow pack will continue to dominate the charts for longer than usual for the forseeable future, and most likely until asteroid strike

This is good, might mean we get to keep THQ :D

Nunka:

CantFaketheFunk:
The question is ... is this just a spike, with a hot new game moving quickly off shelves? Or will Dawn of War II have a longer presence on the list?

Warhammer selling more copies in its first week than WOTLK in its fifteenth isn't exactly a great feat. Even considering the fact that World of Warcraft is effectively un-pirate-able, I'd have expected something like this to happen much sooner. Guess the PC really is dying as a platform. Woe. Woe to us. :(

PC as a gaming platform as been dieing since...it has games...

Also PC is far from dying..in the first 3 months of 2009 Dawn of War 2 and Empire:Total War got released and they already top sellers. Also theres still Starcraft 2, Diablo 3 and I think a new Quake game coming.

Baconmonster723:
Hmmmmmmmmm Kudos to Relic for taking Blizzard's two best game ideas. Fantasy with orcs humans elves etc. (Warcraft) and putting them in space(Starcraft). I'm not gonna rip on them for doing this because clearly, it sells. However, don't read too much into these numbers. Comparing Warhammer and WOW is like comparing a Classic Game to Halo 3. While people look at Halo and go OMG HALO NEW SHINY, they play it and eventually get bored and go back to the classic game that never gets old. Once Starcraft II comes out, then one will see Blizzard's full capability shown. Now if only they would give us one of those..... damn can't remember what they are called for the life of me....... OH YEAH, a release date.

*breathes very heavily* You are joking right?

Sigenrecht:
My computer has three processors, and I could only enjoy the game at a bearable framerate when I took the settings down to half-past nil. I mean, my GeForce 8200 is old, but this game is supposed to cater to my system.

Makes me sad, because I really wanted to revel in this with the full brunt of all of my Warhammer 40,000 nerd-dom.

8200? Are you freakin' serious?! I'm amazed you can run anything on that hunk of junk.

oliveira8:

Nunka:

CantFaketheFunk:
The question is ... is this just a spike, with a hot new game moving quickly off shelves? Or will Dawn of War II have a longer presence on the list?

Warhammer selling more copies in its first week than WOTLK in its fifteenth isn't exactly a great feat. Even considering the fact that World of Warcraft is effectively un-pirate-able, I'd have expected something like this to happen much sooner. Guess the PC really is dying as a platform. Woe. Woe to us. :(

PC as a gaming platform as been dieing since...it has games...

Also PC is far from dieing..in the first 3 months of 2009 Dawn of War 2 and Empire:Total War got released and they already top sellers. Also theres still Starcraft 2, Diablo 3 and I think a new Quake game coming.

Dying, damn it. Basic grammar people, you must learn in the 1st grade!

Also, people have been saying "PC gaming is dying" since at least 1995. Then something like Mass Effect is introduced on PC, where it's even better than on the Xbox 360.

Baconmonster723:
Hmmmmmmmmm Kudos to Relic for taking Blizzard's two best game ideas. Fantasy with orcs humans elves etc. (Warcraft) and putting them in space(Starcraft). I'm not gonna rip on them for doing this because clearly, it sells. However, don't read too much into these numbers. Comparing Warhammer and WOW is like comparing a Classic Game to Halo 3. While people look at Halo and go OMG HALO NEW SHINY, they play it and eventually get bored and go back to the classic game that never gets old. Once Starcraft II comes out, then one will see Blizzard's full capability shown. Now if only they would give us one of those..... damn can't remember what they are called for the life of me....... OH YEAH, a release date.

How can you tell such a lie with a straight face and not stab yourself?

Warhammer 40k was created in 1987 and Warhammer itself in 1983. Warcraft was created in 1994.

If anything, Blizzard ripped off Warhammer and Tolkien's books.

oliveira8:

Nunka:

CantFaketheFunk:
The question is ... is this just a spike, with a hot new game moving quickly off shelves? Or will Dawn of War II have a longer presence on the list?

Warhammer selling more copies in its first week than WOTLK in its fifteenth isn't exactly a great feat. Even considering the fact that World of Warcraft is effectively un-pirate-able, I'd have expected something like this to happen much sooner. Guess the PC really is dying as a platform. Woe. Woe to us. :(

PC as a gaming platform as been dieing since...it has games...

Also PC is far from dieing..in the first 3 months of 2009 Dawn of War 2 and Empire:Total War got released and they already top sellers. Also theres still Starcraft 2, Diablo 3 and I think a new Quake game coming.

You mean Quake live? Already out.
Indeed, it is a good time to have a good pc.

Abedeus:

*snip*

Dying, damn it. Basic grammar people, you must learn in the 1st grade!

Also, people have been saying "PC gaming is dying" since at least 1995. Then something like Mass Effect is introduced on PC, where it's even better than on the Xbox 360.

Nope sorry in my 1st grade I was learning Portuguese, which is my main language....started learning English around 6th grade. Not everyone in these forums had English in primary school.

Also theres alot of games that work better on PC than on the consoles.

Not long until WoW revolts...

..not long at all -.-

dekkarax:

oliveira8:

Nunka:

Warhammer selling more copies in its first week than WOTLK in its fifteenth isn't exactly a great feat. Even considering the fact that World of Warcraft is effectively un-pirate-able, I'd have expected something like this to happen much sooner. Guess the PC really is dying as a platform. Woe. Woe to us. :(

PC as a gaming platform as been dieing since...it has games...

Also PC is far from dieing..in the first 3 months of 2009 Dawn of War 2 and Empire:Total War got released and they already top sellers. Also theres still Starcraft 2, Diablo 3 and I think a new Quake game coming.

You mean Quake live? Already out.
Indeed, it is a good time to have a good pc.

I thought it was only in Beta stage. :O

It's nice to see the PC get some quality games for itself other than another MMO.
I'll be grabbing this at one point or another.

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