Joss Whedon to Direct Batgirl Movie

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Joss Whedon to Direct Batgirl Movie

Joss Whedon to Direct Batgirl Movie #6

Does this make up for The Killing Joke?

Despite being one of the most popular characters in the DC Comics canon, Batgirl has never previously gotten her own movie. We saw her first (movie-wise) in the super-duper and amazingly fantastic live-action film Batman & Robin, in which she was played by Alicia Silverstone, and she's appeared in many of the animated movies and TV series (both live-action and animated), but never as the star in a big-budget live-action movie.

It looks like that's about to change.

As first reported by Variety, a yet-untitled film starring Batgirl is in the works from Warner Bros., set to be part of the DC Extended Universe.

The kicker? It's going to be written and directed by none other than Joss Whedon.

Whedon, of course, has already directed two Avengers movies for Disney and Marvel. He previously made a name for himself on television, creating series like Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Firefly, and Dollhouse. He had previously shown interest in directing a solo Black Widow film for Disney, but after officially leaving the Marvel Cinematic Universe, it appears that he looked elsewhere to direct a female-led superhero movie.

There is not currently any information regarding a star or even a scheduled release date.

The next movie in the DCEU is Wonder Woman, which is scheduled to hit theaters on June 2, 2017.

Source: Variety

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Wait... This is DCEU news... and I feel... optimistic? WHAT IS THIS BLACK MAGIC?

Huh, well I didn't see that coming. Joss has soured his soul by working with Fox multiple times, and now he's trying his luck with Warner and the thus far cursed DCEU? As a fan [of him, not the DCEU], I wish him the very best...

I'd have thought Batwoman would be a better, more interesting Bat-XX for Joss, then again I don't really know anything about Batgirl.

Wow, getting the go to guy for badass female leads to do a heroine movie, instead of Zack Snyder's friends?

Who are you and what did you do to Warner Bros?!

I have to admit I am a little disappointed. I think Batwoman would be more interesting character to bring to the big screen. Honestly, I would like to see Joss Whedon do something else but comic book movies next. He pulled off something that people didn't think it could happen. Making a great movie out of a superhero team-up.

I don't get the appeal of Batgirl. She is a highly derivative character. A female and teen version of an already popular, established hero. That has been done to death in comic books. If the movie focus on her being The Oracle, that could be good. I am not holding out any hope that would be the case.

There's worse choices. I just hope kneejerk political movements don't hark on it instantly like they have before. "guy says one dumb thing" BETTER BOYCOTT.

Well, if we're sticking with the current iteration of the cinematic DC universe, Batman is old enough that Batgirl could be Barbara Gordon or Cassandra Cain. Or Stephanie Brown, for that matter. There's enough room there to make a unique and interesting iteration, assuming the fumbling mitts of WB can leave well enough alone.

Granted, I'd rather have Whedon working on that Black Widow movie, but this could work.

You know, assuming the cinematic DC universe doesn't self-immolate in the mean time.

The DCEU is pretty much fucked anyway. Joss Whedon makes good movies, but I don't know if he can even do anything to fix this clusterfuck.

Batgirl will probably be better than any other DCEU film, but I doubt that one movie can fix this.

Yay. Can't wait to see how he crowbars humor into another comic book property.

Marter:
We saw her first (movie-wise) in the super-duper and amazingly fantastic live-action film Batman & Robin[...]

Well, I for one am glad you enjoyed that movie; it is my understanding it was not appreciated by a large subset of the fans at the time of release.

I also am hopeful with this undertaking. Joss Whedon has experience in making action centric female led films, so he sounds like a natural fit. It is WB's attachment that leaves me worried; that leads me to believe that it would be dark and gritty; I don't know if Whedon as ever done that.

Poor guy. If he keeps her like the comics, feminists will hate him all over again for not making her OP. If he changes her to be Buffy 2.0, comic fans will scream SJW.
Its a loose/loose. This'll be the nail in the coffin of his career.

I'm confused.

I've avoided the DCEU after Man of Steel, until I heard at least one of them had a soul (haven't heard of one having one yet).

I do think Joss Whedon is talented (though not to the extent that so many people seem to think), so this might be ok to dare-I-say-it good.

thenewguy512739:
Yay. Can't wait to see how he crowbars humor into another comic book property.

Quite. I mean, it's not like humour's ever been a part of comicbook writing going back generations, or anything.

Callate:
Granted, I'd rather have Whedon working on that Black Widow movie, but this could work.

I'd rather see him develop another original property - preferably on TV as I feel his strengths better suit the small rather than the big screen.

You know, assuming the cinematic DC universe doesn't self-immolate in the mean time.

I don't see how it could get worse than BvS, so surely the worst's in the past.

I don't see how it could get worse than BvS, so surely the worst's in the past.

You should have more faith in WB. They can make MUCH worse movies!

Bedinsis:

Marter:
We saw her first (movie-wise) in the super-duper and amazingly fantastic live-action film Batman & Robin[...]

Well, I for one am glad you enjoyed that movie; it is my understanding it was not appreciated by a large subset of the fans at the time of release.

I also am hopeful with this undertaking. Joss Whedon has experience in making action centric female led films, so he sounds like a natural fit. It is WB's attachment that leaves me worried; that leads me to believe that it would be dark and gritty; I don't know if Whedon as ever done that.

I thought Angel TV series was dark and gritty for most of it's run.

Written and Directed by Joss Whedon. No doubt will be edited and reshot by executives behind his back based on focus groups reactions and marketing data.

Darth Rosenberg:
I don't see how it could get worse than BvS, so surely the worst's in the past.

A lot of people didn't think they'd mess up an Animated Batman movie, or The Killing Joke. Before I put any faith in WB or Joss, I want to know more about what they intend to do. Are they going to double down on the weird mistakes of The Killing Joke? Are they going to screw it up like Cat Woman?

As bad as BvS is to many it was at least a spectacle to observe. It didn't damage the characters any more than was expected. At least a bad Batgirl movie can only really burn a potential Bat Girl franchise like Cat Woman did. It's not as dangerous as a bad Wonder Woman would be. If they screw up WW Batgirl has no hope.

Silentpony:
Its a loose/loose. This'll be the nail in the coffin of his career.

Well if the nail is that loose it won't be an issue to get it back out again.

Somewhat hopeful for this, although I wonder if this means that the DCEU is going to become focus on the batfamily over the other heroes with this and the Nightwing movie. I'm guessing it'll be about Barbara Gordon but I kind of hope it'll be about Cass or Steph (or at the very least feature them prominently). Still this is a ray of hope for the DCEU so fingers cross.

Darth Rosenberg:

thenewguy512739:
Yay. Can't wait to see how he crowbars humor into another comic book property.

Quite. I mean, it's not like humour's ever been a part of comicbook writing going back generations, or anything.

Oh, the jab was at Joss Wheadon himself; he's great with ensemble casts, but I find his style very irritating. Case in point: "Avengers: Age of Ultron". The whole movie is just filled with quips and one-liners, especially during the action set-pieces (do you really need to discuss weapon maintenance while fighting the guy with the doomsday device?!); it makes for quite a bumpy ride.

Joss Wheadon screwed the pooch with Age of Ultron so I have no idea why is this considered in improvement.

Also does Batgirl really deserve her own movie? Wasn't she made into a more interesting character as Oracle?

He also was a writer at Marvel Comics. You know, someone who actually is involved with comics, making comic movies, its a good thing.

Though funny since I dont think he ever worked for DC, so having a Marvel guy make a DC movie is funny to me.

KissingSunlight:
I have to admit I am a little disappointed. I think Batwoman would be more interesting character to bring to the big screen. Honestly, I would like to see Joss Whedon do something else but comic book movies next. He pulled off something that people didn't think it could happen. Making a great movie out of a superhero team-up.

I don't get the appeal of Batgirl. She is a highly derivative character. A female and teen version of an already popular, established hero. That has been done to death in comic books. If the movie focus on her being The Oracle, that could be good. I am not holding out any hope that would be the case.

Part of the interest in the character is how she straddles the line. She essentually has two dads. One Bruce, one Gordon. Two sides of justice and how this effects how she grew.

medv4380:
A lot of people didn't think they'd mess up an Animated Batman movie, or The Killing Joke. Before I put any faith in WB or Joss, I want to know more about what they intend to do. Are they going to double down on the weird mistakes of The Killing Joke? Are they going to screw it up like Cat Woman?

I very much doubt Whedon would agree to do the film if some of The Killing Joke's creepier elements were at all involved. If they're going to allow him to write as well as direct, then you shouldn't have much to worry about on that front.

Though yeah, more details are obviously required. This is early in the whole process, to say the least. If Snyder has a 'story [interference]' credit, then colour me concerned.

As bad as BvS is to many it was at least a spectacle to observe. It didn't damage the characters any more than was expected.

How is presenting possibly the most idiotic Batman ever put to the bigscreen (at least going from the '89 version) not damaging the character more than expected? And yeah, it was a spectacle; a painful, awkward, weird, tonal shitfest... Granted it's given everyone years worth of quizzical analysis and/or mockery, but at the time it was just uncomfortable to experience.

Some wondered whether they 'broke the Bat' (depicting him as a murderous idiot) and how could they come back, but by the looks of the Justice League trailer, ignoring BvS's mischaracterisations seems to be their way of resolving it all.

At least a bad Batgirl movie can only really burn a potential Bat Girl franchise like Cat Woman did. It's not as dangerous as a bad Wonder Woman would be. If they screw up WW Batgirl has no hope.

I don't see how that's the case. The entire DCEU's been a wayward disaster from the moment it kinda-sorta-began, and they're still barreling ahead. Wonder Woman being a bit of a dud won't impact a film two or three years later.

KissingSunlight:
I thought Angel TV series was dark and gritty for most of it's run.

It's also worth noting Buffy got pretty bleak in the last two seasons (existential crisis, destructive sadomasochism, attempted rape, that sort of thing), and Dollhouse was seriously twisted and disturbing at times. Though if audio commentaries are to be believed, a lot of Buffy's latter season freakiness was perhaps down to Marti Noxon, not Joss.

thenewguy512739:
Oh, the jab was at Joss Wheadon himself; he's great with ensemble casts, but I find his style very irritating. Case in point: "Avengers: Age of Ultron". The whole movie is just filled with quips and one-liners, especially during the action set-pieces (do you really need to discuss weapon maintenance while fighting the guy with the doomsday device?!); it makes for quite a bumpy ride.

I do feel the Russo brothers have provided the best entries in the MCU so far, in every sense but on this note regarding the use of humour (I loved Doctor Strange, but that had a couple of jokey moments that could've been taken out or just tweaked. not the cape dabbing away his tears, though, that was awesome... ).

That said I'm a huge Whedon fan so clearly I never mind his tone. The Avengers had its fair share of quips and one-liners, and Disney/Marvel Studios probably weren't likely to try to pull him back from that in a follow-up. And if they had, who knows what else he'd have made far straighter (the Hawkeye speech to Wanda comes to mind, which was a great little moment). Age Of Ultron's still a good film, though, and the Vision/Ultron scene at the end is genuinely beautiful.

I'm not familiar enough with any iteration of Batgirl to guess at how he'll likely approach the character in terms of tone. You'd don't hire Joss to do the grimdark adolescent BS the DCEU's thus far peddled, though, and clearly from the looks of the Justice League trailer and even Wonder Woman, they've 'course corrected', let's call it, to already be closer in line to his tone than Snyder's.

Samtemdo8:
Also does Batgirl really deserve her own movie? Wasn't she made into a more interesting character as Oracle?

Yeah, so New52 fixed that by making her just another Batgirl again.

While it's well past time to expand the Batfamily beyond endless Batman films, I don't think Whedon is a good choice for this, but that's just me.

Why do people keep giving that hack work?
He made the Avengers into a bland action flick. Thankfully it's in capable hands now.

Marter:
Does this make up for The Killing Joke?

Hey now...to be fair, the only thing wrong with The Killing Joke was that silly intro plot they tacked on just to extend the run time so they could actually call it a "movie".

...well that and the completely pointless BatSex.

OT:
Eh, too little too late if you ask me. With Joss at the helm I'd imagine this has a legitimate chance of being the best movie in the DCEU, considering his past works. But yeah, after everything that's already happened with these movies I'm at the point where I just really don't even care about them any more. Justice League looks like it's gonna be shitty, I've heard that WW has gone through some troubles with it's development, and Batman is undergoing a full rewrite since Ben decided he didn't want to direct it.

So yeah, while I can appreciate that DC is in the process of doing twice what Marvel hasn't even done once - make a super hero movie starring one of their female heroes - that doesn't change the fact that I have absolutely no faith in DCEU to make a good movie.

But I've already seen Buffy...

Eh. I like Joss, but his writing style has started to wear on me over the years. I can only take so many quips in one sitting.

Bah. Whatever. Bring on Snarkgirl.

Joss may have created S.W.O.R.D., but his quality has dropped over the years. Avengers I and II were far from his best work and most directors at his level within the industry could make the idea work as well or better.

There's a reason Marvel dropped him when he started bitching out. The Ross Brothers are better anyway.

Wait a minute, I'm confused. Didn't Whedon say he quit Marvel because of Executive Meddling? So why is he going to work for the people who redefined the term?

circularlogic88:
Written and Directed by Joss Whedon. No doubt will be edited and reshot by executives behind his back based on focus groups reactions and marketing data.

008Zulu:
Wait a minute, I'm confused. Didn't Whedon say he quit Marvel because of Executive Meddling? So why is he going to work for the people who redefined the term?

Yes, he did.

I'm actually wondering how this is going to turn out. That exact thing is something Whedon has complained about before, with Marvel and Fox. So it would be odd if he agrees without some kind of "no interference" agreement. But you're exactly right, there's no way WB would honor any such agreement. It will be interesting how this turns out. I'm frankly surprised he's interested at all. After they turned down his Wonder Woman movie. And then he directed Avengers, spiked the football, and teabagged WB for their trouble.

...well, I suppose that if you need someone to cripple and deprotagonize a fan-favorite, he'd be your go to.

I mean, I like the guy, but there's a 0% chance Barbara Gordon begins and ends this movie as Batgirl.

My money is on him getting frustrated with the WB producers and bailing. It already happened with Affleck and the solo Batman film. (He's still playing Batman, he just doesn't want to write and direct it on their schedule, apparently.)

Snyder seems to be the only person capable of working with whoever's in charge of the DCEU and not getting all burnt out.

altnameJag:
...well, I suppose that if you need someone to cripple and deprotagonize a fan-favorite, he'd be your go to.

I mean, I like the guy, but there's a 0% chance Barbara Gordon begins and ends this movie as Batgirl.

That'd be an absolute fucking soul-flayer of an ending, though. I want to see it just because of how painful it'd be to watch. Million Dollar Baby painful.

I mean, people thought Batman v Superman was dark because it had grumpy-shooty Batman in it. Can you imagine the reaction if Whedon ends the film with Batgirl in a wheelchair? People would be like "nooo, Whedon, you were supposed to make it more like Marvel," and Whedon will be like "MY PLAN COMES TO FRUITION. YOUR ANGUISHED TEARS SHALL SUSTAIN THIS FLESH-HUSK THROUGH WHICH I ENACT MY WILL ON THIS WORLD."

At least, that's what I think he'll say.

Better be the early New 52 Batgirl. I can't stand her current McDonald's boots wearing ass to

So it'll be yet another sass talking, high kicking, "funny" girl who'll probably end up crying and barefoot in the shower at some point. Great. Can't wait to hear that old chestnut again.

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