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Maraveno:

Claymorez:

Lord Krunk:

In heavy moderation (u c wut i did thar). I wouldn't though.

The reason for this being that the Escapist is a family friendly site with forum users as young as 13 or younger and undoubtedly many viewers of the forums of younger age - thus we do not condone the promotion of curse words and inappropriate content.

Now I've been wondering.

Isn't the escapist a site that slaps a 13 and over sticker on itself like porn sites do an 18+ one? I remember reading something like that when I joined this site.

And haven't we all played a 13 year old on xbox live once in a while?

See where I'm going with this? You do? Grand.

1)....I know of no such sticker on the site.
2) Well if you have an xbox its possible I wouldn't know. On the PS3 I certainly have.
3) Anything else you wanted to ask?

Claymorez:

Maraveno:

Claymorez:

The reason for this being that the Escapist is a family friendly site with forum users as young as 13 or younger and undoubtedly many viewers of the forums of younger age - thus we do not condone the promotion of curse words and inappropriate content.

Now I've been wondering.

Isn't the escapist a site that slaps a 13 and over sticker on itself like porn sites do an 18+ one? I remember reading something like that when I joined this site.

And haven't we all played a 13 year old on xbox live once in a while?

See where I'm going with this? You do? Grand.

1)....I know of no such sticker on the site.
2) Well if you have an xbox its possible I wouldn't know. On the PS3 I certainly have.
3) Anything else you wanted to ask?

I didn't mean a literal sticker or button
It's in the terms of agreement or something like that when you sign up , I've not been banned so I've never had to remake my acount in any way haha

But okay :)

Claymorez:
-Snip-

What Maraveno is referring to is that the higher-ups don't allow kids under the age of 13 on the site. It isn't in the new rules and I can't recall if it was in the previous set, but I distinctly remember that..... well, I want to say Kuliani (but can't say for sure) banning anyone that said they weren't 13 in a thread posted many months ago.

There was a thread that one or two people said they were actually 12 and received 365 day suspensions for the posts they stated such in. Of course, I can't link to it since it is so ancient and I can't even remember the subject of the thread, but I think a question to the top-tier of the mod team can reinforce my claim that it did occur.

If that doesn't say we don't want pre-teens here then nothing does.

Portal Maniac:
*SNIP*

Yes we do not allow anyone younger than the age of 13 on this site and we enforce this rule as strictly as any other rule. However what Claymorez is saying is that it's not possible to prevent anyone younger than 13 to enter this site, as it is with any other site, because everybody lies. Legally the best we can do is have the age verification feature like every other site.

Now as for swearing, if it's in moderation and not meant to offend we have no problem with it. Obviously we have to make this site family friendly which is a nice euphemism for "as pleasant for as many people as possible". Consistent swearing is by no means pleasant.

I hope that answers your queries.

This seems the most appropriate place to ask: I see a ton of posts mentioning a new captcha thing here at the 'pist. Am I not seeing it because I subscribed?

Swollen Goat:
This seems the most appropriate place to ask: I see a ton of posts mentioning a new captcha thing here at the 'pist. Am I not seeing it because I subscribed?

According to the Captcha thing I had to type into to post this:

"Panic! Chaos! What is this!?
To help cut down on spam, we're doing spot check captchas on the forums. These help prevent bots from being able to post. Please complete the captcha to the left to post. Sorry for the inconvenience!"

EDIT: I'm guessing they assume you're human because you paid to post there. I guess a spambot doing the same would have paid for their advertising space :P

Lord Krunk:
I guess a spambot doing the same would have paid for their advertising space :P

Thanks for the info, though be careful with what I quoted-you may give some devious spambot company an idea! ;p

Lord Krunk:

Swollen Goat:
This seems the most appropriate place to ask: I see a ton of posts mentioning a new captcha thing here at the 'pist. Am I not seeing it because I subscribed?

According to the Captcha thing I had to type into to post this:

"Panic! Chaos! What is this!?
To help cut down on spam, we're doing spot check captchas on the forums. These help prevent bots from being able to post. Please complete the captcha to the left to post. Sorry for the inconvenience!"

EDIT: I'm guessing they assume you're human because you paid to post there. I guess a spambot doing the same would have paid for their advertising space :P

I don't really see why only people who paid are excluded and not members who have more than, let's say, 100 posts. I highly doubt someone with over 6000 posts and who's been here for almost three years like yourself would be a spambot. I don't think it would be all that hard to exclude everyone past a certain post count and/or time that they've been registered from this measure because checking to see whether such people are spambots seems pointless to me, worse than pointless in fact because it's irritating to those who must put up with it.
Of course they could've also not excluded people like us on purpose to make us join the PubClub....

Edit: Hahaha, got the captcha wrong at the first attempt.

HK_01:

Lord Krunk:

Swollen Goat:
This seems the most appropriate place to ask: I see a ton of posts mentioning a new captcha thing here at the 'pist. Am I not seeing it because I subscribed?

According to the Captcha thing I had to type into to post this:

"Panic! Chaos! What is this!?
To help cut down on spam, we're doing spot check captchas on the forums. These help prevent bots from being able to post. Please complete the captcha to the left to post. Sorry for the inconvenience!"

EDIT: I'm guessing they assume you're human because you paid to post there. I guess a spambot doing the same would have paid for their advertising space :P

I don't really see why only people who paid are excluded and not members who have more than, let's say, 100 posts. I highly doubt someone with over 6000 posts and who's been here for almost three years like yourself would be a spambot. I don't think it would be all that hard to exclude everyone past a certain post count and/or time that they've been registered from this measure because checking to see whether such people are spambots seems pointless to me, worse than pointless in fact because it's irritating to those who must put up with it.
Of course they could've also not excluded people like us on purpose to make us join the PubClub....

Edit: Hahaha, got the captcha wrong at the first attempt.

It's only set up like this because the whole reason a Spambot is using this as a method for advertising is because it wants to avoid spending money. Plus, the plan you suggested isn't full-proof.

We have hundreds and hundreds of dormant accounts going as far back as 2007. Its very easy for someone to sign into their old account, attach a bot onto it and spam the forums. Even then, a hundred posts isn't hard to reach and the majority of posters have at least twice that amount.

In short, a smart person can find away to exploit your suggestions, but wouldn't ever plan on paying twenty bucks for a few extra hits on his website.

maddawg IAJI:

HK_01:

I don't really see why only people who paid are excluded and not members who have more than, let's say, 100 posts. I highly doubt someone with over 6000 posts and who's been here for almost three years like yourself would be a spambot. I don't think it would be all that hard to exclude everyone past a certain post count and/or time that they've been registered from this measure because checking to see whether such people are spambots seems pointless to me, worse than pointless in fact because it's irritating to those who must put up with it.
Of course they could've also not excluded people like us on purpose to make us join the PubClub....

Edit: Hahaha, got the captcha wrong at the first attempt.

It's only set up like this because the whole reason a Spambot is using this as a method for advertising is because it wants to avoid spending money. Plus, the plan you suggested isn't full-proof.

We have hundreds and hundreds of dormant accounts going as far back as 2007. Its very easy for someone to sign into their old account, attach a bot onto it and spam the forums. Even then, a hundred posts isn't hard to reach and the majority of posters have at least twice that amount.

In short, a smart person can find away to exploit your suggestions, but wouldn't ever plan on paying twenty bucks for a few extra hits on his website.

I don't really think that old dormant accounts would be used for spamming. The only spam I've ever seen was from freshly created accounts. Granted, I've only seen very few instances of such happenings, but that just reinforces my stance that this is an unnecessary measure.
I also don't see why someone who just wants to spam the site would put hours of time into getting over 100 "real" posts only to be banned within a very short period after he starts spamming. That just seems like a waste of time (and therefore money).

HK_01:

maddawg IAJI:

HK_01:

I don't really see why only people who paid are excluded and not members who have more than, let's say, 100 posts. I highly doubt someone with over 6000 posts and who's been here for almost three years like yourself would be a spambot. I don't think it would be all that hard to exclude everyone past a certain post count and/or time that they've been registered from this measure because checking to see whether such people are spambots seems pointless to me, worse than pointless in fact because it's irritating to those who must put up with it.
Of course they could've also not excluded people like us on purpose to make us join the PubClub....

Edit: Hahaha, got the captcha wrong at the first attempt.

It's only set up like this because the whole reason a Spambot is using this as a method for advertising is because it wants to avoid spending money. Plus, the plan you suggested isn't full-proof.

We have hundreds and hundreds of dormant accounts going as far back as 2007. Its very easy for someone to sign into their old account, attach a bot onto it and spam the forums. Even then, a hundred posts isn't hard to reach and the majority of posters have at least twice that amount.

In short, a smart person can find away to exploit your suggestions, but wouldn't ever plan on paying twenty bucks for a few extra hits on his website.

I don't really think that old dormant accounts would be used for spamming. The only spam I've ever seen was from freshly created accounts. Granted, I've only seen very few instances of such happenings, but that just reinforces my stance that this is an unnecessary measure.
I also don't see why someone who just wants to spam the site would put hours of time into getting over 100 "real" posts only to be banned within a very short period after he starts spamming. That just seems like a waste of time (and therefore money).

Its less money then they would be spending to buy ad-space and when I said dormant members, I meant a user could create an account, leave it for a few months while he spams other sites and finds other work and then use the bot.

The hundred posts is easily attained, I did it within my first week here. Its just a matter of coming here on your free-time and most spammers are simply advertising their blogs or their art, stuff that isn't their primary source of income.

HK_01:
Edit: Hahaha, got the captcha wrong at the first attempt.

As did I.

Also, you have a really good point there. In my time here I've never seen a spambot older than a day or two, and not with any more than 2 posts.

I dunno about yourself, but I really hate the way the Pub Club is pitched.

All hail the captchas.

Seeing how they totally stopped the spammers and all that.

Oops, I guess I made a controversial thread. I titled it "Racists or Homophobes" It was a poll about whether people would side with the KKK or WBC. I didn't intend to spark controversy, only to promote discussion, but I can see how it got locked.

Probably should've worded it better, oh well.

Krunk, you should add Greyfox105 to the mod list. Just saw that she's a mod.

I feel like responding to this thread will invoke a curse since three people on the front page were banned or put on probation, but I'll take my chances. I was warned once for commenting on my brother's forum post by ironically saying "Cool story bro." but I can understand the reason. I feel safe knowing I can live in a troll free environment.

Neronium:
Krunk, you should add Greyfox105 to the mod list. Just saw that she's a mod.

I added the 3 newest moderators to his post. :)

Grabbin Keelz:
I feel like responding to this thread will invoke a curse since three people on the front page were banned or put on probation, but I'll take my chances.

'tis a very old thread, and it's aged over time. Of course, time has taken its toll on the community - all the banned people on the first page were at the top of the Escapist social hierachy a over a year ago.

I was too. Although that was way back in 2008. It's funny to see how the place has changed in over time, and how much I have as well - I was 15 when I first came here, and 2 months ago I turned 18.

It's certainly not akin to a tight-knit dysfunctional (yet incredibly literate) family anymore.

More like a sparse dysfunctional city.

Aylaine:

Neronium:
Krunk, you should add Greyfox105 to the mod list. Just saw that she's a mod.

I added the 3 newest moderators to his post. :)

Beat me by an hour. Oh well.

Lord Krunk:

Grabbin Keelz:
I feel like responding to this thread will invoke a curse since three people on the front page were banned or put on probation, but I'll take my chances.

'tis a very old thread, and it's aged over time. Of course, time has taken its toll on the community - all the banned people on the first page were at the top of the Escapist social hierachy a over a year ago.

I was too. Although that was way back in 2008. It's funny to see how the place has changed in over time, and how much I have as well - I was 15 when I first came here, and 2 months ago I turned 18.

It's certainly not akin to a tight-knit dysfunctional (yet incredibly literate) family anymore.

More like a sparse dysfunctional city.

Aylaine:

Neronium:
Krunk, you should add Greyfox105 to the mod list. Just saw that she's a mod.

I added the 3 newest moderators to his post. :)

Beat me by an hour. Oh well.

I am a bit sad Me, Sevre, Newclassic, Coldstorage and Zombie Fish are still considered "new" moderators :P

Claymorez:

Lord Krunk:

Grabbin Keelz:
I feel like responding to this thread will invoke a curse since three people on the front page were banned or put on probation, but I'll take my chances.

'tis a very old thread, and it's aged over time. Of course, time has taken its toll on the community - all the banned people on the first page were at the top of the Escapist social hierachy a over a year ago.

I was too. Although that was way back in 2008. It's funny to see how the place has changed in over time, and how much I have as well - I was 15 when I first came here, and 2 months ago I turned 18.

It's certainly not akin to a tight-knit dysfunctional (yet incredibly literate) family anymore.

More like a sparse dysfunctional city.

Aylaine:

I added the 3 newest moderators to his post. :)

Beat me by an hour. Oh well.

I am a bit sad Me, Sevre, Newclassic, Coldstorage and Zombie Fish are still considered "new" moderators :P

I haven't had that much reason to update it in the past year :P

Thank you for your explaination to how the moderation of this forum works.

What is there stance apon curse words?

somadman:
Thank you for your explaination to how the moderation of this forum works.

What is there stance apon curse words?

The occasional swear word is acceptable in the right context, but it is usually easier to play it safe and just not use them. Anything which is too vulgar (such as any sexual or violent depictions, or something like a long line of swear words all in one paragraph) is not tolerated, nor is any if it is meant to insult other users, be it in a direct or indirect response.

We will allow swearing to an extent, but at the end of the day there are people as young as 13 who visit and post on these forums regularly, so we have to try and keep this place as family friendly as possible.

we have to try and keep this place as family friendly as possible.

While I understand the desire to protect oneself against possible legal ramifications, the actual published content of the site (ZP and moveibob's videos are the most glaring examples, but by far not the only one) indicates otherwise. The quoted statement is a spurious argument.

Emergent:
While I understand the desire to protect oneself against possible legal ramifications, the actual published content of the site (ZP and moveibob's videos are the most glaring examples, but by far not the only one) indicates otherwise. The quoted statement is a spurious argument.

Content published on the site such as video content have its own guidelines to follow, with its own people to enforce it. It may not seem fair to you guys for the two things to have different standards but trust me, it isn't any fairer on their end either, considering the fact that they have their jobs at risk if they end up breaking their conditions or if not enough people see their content, whilst normal users such as yourself only have loss of access to free forums.

I'm not complaining that it is unfair. I'm stating that, as an argument, it is invalid.

I am going to stay a good boy.

Is it just me or have we had a real influx of forum games in the off-topic section, repeat threads, and one-sentence OPs since the new code of conduct came into action?

I would have loved it if the old forum rules were put up next to the code of conduct (marked as old, of course) so that new users would get to see more specific examples of what kind of threads we do (did) not like and such. As it is now, it feels like the standards of the forum are sinking :/

Jonluw:
Is it just me or have we had a real influx of forum games in the off-topic section, repeat threads, and one-sentence OPs since the new code of conduct came into action?

I would have loved it if the old forum rules were put up next to the code of conduct (marked as old, of course) so that new users would get to see more specific examples of what kind of threads we do (did) not like and such. As it is now, it feels like the standards of the forum are sinking :/

That may be. The new rules are much too vague (something that will be changed soon) and that may allow for certain topics to slip past the radar. Sometimes these threads can be low content though. If you spot such a thread, PM a moderator or report it & it'll; get taken care of. <3

Aylaine:

Jonluw:
Is it just me or have we had a real influx of forum games in the off-topic section, repeat threads, and one-sentence OPs since the new code of conduct came into action?

I would have loved it if the old forum rules were put up next to the code of conduct (marked as old, of course) so that new users would get to see more specific examples of what kind of threads we do (did) not like and such. As it is now, it feels like the standards of the forum are sinking :/

That may be. The new rules are much too vague (something that will be changed soon)

Ohh, I did not know that. Interesting.

If you spot such a thread, PM a moderator or report it & it'll; get taken care of. <3

Will do.

To be honest, I wasn't actually expecting a response to this. I just felt like whining a little :P

Thank you for the rules, I went over them and now completely understand them. Also, I know how much work it takes to make an Index trust me Haha. Following the rules isn't hard to be honest, just don't go out of your way to offend people or bash on beliefs others hold dearly (I think that one is just my opinion, but oh well). Oh and respect everyone because that is how our website can be established to become more peaceful and suited for all.

This is well organized and I like it. In fact, because of these rules now I know exactly what to look out for and what to do in a situation. Appreciate the Forum highly of course! Thus will remain noble to The Escapist, and besides- I never want to risk getting banned, I just love it way to much here ^_^.

As someone who hates stupid poll options, I have to say, your poll is the most evil thing I have seen in this forum.

Hey... Is half the posts here automated posts like the "Electronic Consumer Association"

I'm still getting spam email from signing up to their forums too... S0... is thr going to be spam from signing up to this forum -- Do you all still attempt to sale people's email address?? In-other-words.

EkurioX:
Hey... Is half the posts here automated posts like the "Electronic Consumer Association"

I'm still getting spam email from signing up to their forums too... S0... is thr going to be spam from signing up to this forum -- Do you all still attempt to sale people's email address?? In-other-words.

No the site doesn't do that. If you get spam, it is most likely only the weekly Magazine Update that will appear in the spam folder for some reason. Any other spam you could report to the staff if you get it because you shouldn't get any.

Nope and the webstaff is the same one here as at like newsmax -- Entertainment Consumer Association...

I signed up for the ECA... Then i was repteadly attack and insulted by the webstaff and when i question them they ban-hammered...

No, they are basically spam -- They harass countless of people and really treat people they dislike in anyway they please. Because this site is owned by them. They do not work for this site... This site is not undercontract with any other organization, or high brand name.

That is why they get labled as spam -- They have a high profile online and many report these site as phishing -- This site also has a high complaints of people losing passwords to facebook and numerous other sites. That is why they are in spam...

The webstaff of many alias' know who i am... from only online though -- Ive gotten them banned countable times at Xbox network and PS3 network for distrupting or harassing users.

EkurioX:
Nope and the webstaff is the same one here as at like newsmax -- Entertainment Consumer Association...

I signed up for the ECA... Then i was repteadly attack and insulted by the webstaff and when i question them they ban-hammered...

No, they are basically spam -- They harass countless of people and really treat people they dislike in anyway they please. Because this site is owned by them. They do not work for this site... This site is not undercontract with any other organization, or high brand name.

That is why they get labled as spam -- They have a high profile online and many report these site as phishing -- This site also has a high complaints of people losing passwords to facebook and numerous other sites. That is why they are in spam...

The webstaff of many alias' know who i am... from only online though -- Ive gotten them banned countable times at Xbox network and PS3 network for distrupting or harassing users.

What? I'm not sure if you are talking about the ECA or The Escapist...or what you may be referring to. If you have a problem, please feel free to use our appeal system: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/contact/

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